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glowrider
Apr 16, 2007, 02:51 PM
I received my 8 core on Friday. It did NOT like running two copies of Handbrake at once. FPS dropped considerably (latest nightly build). Handbrake/Mediafork at once is better.
http://homepage.mac.com/lehmanphoto/octosex.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/lehmanphoto/heavyuse.jpg
Here's a screen grab using ffmpeg. h.264, which I prefer, runs at half this speed.
http://homepage.mac.com/lehmanphoto/hbspeed.jpg
System config:
8 core/9gb ram/xt1900 vid card/2x150gb Raptors/1x250gb 7500rpm/1x750gb 7500rpm/ProsataSS8 External Raid with 6x750gb 7500RPM/Nas with 4x750gb 7500rpm
System flies in Photoshop, which is my main use. I upgraded from a first revision dp 2ghz g5. Actions that took minutes to complete on small smart object files take mere seconds to complete on full size 31mp images. She's a beast. (And that's with handbrake running at the same time. Very satisfied with the upgrade.)
Multimedia
Apr 16, 2007, 03:06 PM
Thank you. Looks like you have a new version of Handbrake. While the FPS may go down each time you add another copy encoding, the TOTAL FPS goes UP. For example on the Quad G5 one copy will do 100 fps while two copies will do 80 fps EACH for a total of 160 fps. So don't worry about each one going down and keep adding simultaneous Handbrake encodes until the TOTAL diminishes. Thanks.
twoodcc
Apr 16, 2007, 03:44 PM
thanks for doing this. :)
glowrider
Apr 16, 2007, 03:52 PM
Thank you. Looks like you have a new version of Handbrake. While the FPS may go down each time you add another copy encoding, the TOTAL FPS goes UP. For example on the Quad G5 one copy will do 100 fps while two copies will do 80 fps EACH for a total of 160 fps. So don't worry about each one going down and keep adding simultaneous Handbrake encodes until the TOTAL diminishes. Thanks.
I mean it drops DRAMATICALLY. Into single digits. I will try again for a screen shot. Perhaps it was finicky that evening when I tried it initially.
Update: It seems a fresh install (since I tried it initially) has cleaned things up. I understand how total FPS works running across two copies. However, I still find it is faster running one copy of HandBrake and one of MediaFork vs. Duplicates of Handbrake.
Here is a screen of two Handbrakes:
http://tinyurl.com/yphr42
And the Activity Monitor:
http://tinyurl.com/2ax2wu
Lord Flashheart
Apr 16, 2007, 06:10 PM
Thanx for the info. Keep it coming :)
4God
Apr 16, 2007, 06:15 PM
Thank you and good work! :)
glowrider
Apr 16, 2007, 06:29 PM
I posted in the photoshop test thread, but that test is ridiculous anyway. But I'll post here as well, including comparison to my dp 2ghz G5. I noticed an avg. increase of about 2.8x from the G5 to the Octo.
With my new machine set to the ReadMe guidelines (1 history state, 4 cache - what a load of crap that is) I get 27 seconds.
With the default (20 history states, 6 cache) I get 1:19.
I doubt this would be much faster than any quad machine, g5 or intel. Did this in CS3 - while using up 6 other cores though (2 instances of handbrake running), that's where the 8 cores would really come in handy - for multitasking.
One way or another, it is a good way to compare your own systems with some absurd action package rather than just simple, individual tasks.
My old G5 (2ghz dp) did the ReadMe settings in 1:15 and the Photoshop Default in 4:07, in Rosetta no less.
With nearly a 3x increase in processing speed, that's a justified expense to me, but the real benefit is that I can do many things at once vs. JUST having photoshop running. I am going to try it on my Macbook Pro later.
psychofreak
Apr 16, 2007, 06:31 PM
rMy old G5 (2ghz dp) did the ReadMe settings in 1:15 and the Photoshop Default in 4:07, in Rosetta no less.
There is no Rosetta for the G5s, only intel machines :)
glowrider
Apr 16, 2007, 06:36 PM
There is no Rosetta for the G5s, only intel machines :)
You're right - just a normal CS3 beta. I was confusing it with my MBP.
twoodcc
Apr 16, 2007, 07:18 PM
so how did you get those presets in Handbrake? and what exactly is anamorphic?
thanks
glowrider
Apr 16, 2007, 07:34 PM
so how did you get those presets in Handbrake? and what exactly is anamorphic?
thanks
Latest nightly build of Handbrake has em built in.
Anamorphic: "A term used to describe the representation of a wide-screen video image by squeezing it horizontally to fit into a conventional 4:3 aspect ratio for purposes of storage and transmission. The image is stretched back to wide screen (usually 16:9) before being displayed."
twoodcc
Apr 16, 2007, 09:27 PM
Latest nightly build of Handbrake has em built in.
Anamorphic: "A term used to describe the representation of a wide-screen video image by squeezing it horizontally to fit into a conventional 4:3 aspect ratio for purposes of storage and transmission. The image is stretched back to wide screen (usually 16:9) before being displayed."
thanks, so where do i get the nightly build?
and do you always do anamorphic?
glowrider
Apr 16, 2007, 10:26 PM
thanks, so where do i get the nightly build?
and do you always do anamorphic?
handbrake.m0k.org
All your answers are there.
Multimedia
Apr 17, 2007, 03:13 AM
I mean it drops DRAMATICALLY. Into single digits. I will try again for a screen shot. Perhaps it was finicky that evening when I tried it initially.
Update: It seems a fresh install (since I tried it initially) has cleaned things up. I understand how total FPS works running across two copies. However, I still find it is faster running one copy of HandBrake and one of MediaFork vs. Duplicates of Handbrake.
Here is a screen of two Handbrakes:
http://tinyurl.com/yphr42
And the Activity Monitor:
http://tinyurl.com/2ax2wuWe're talking Apples and Oranges Glowrider. I never use H.264 and I never use single pass encoding. So your rates are very slow because you are using a very high bitrate with single pass H.264.
Use 800 kbps two pass FFmpeg non H.264 and your number will be radically faster. It's encouraging that Handbrake is useing 4 cores each. Also make sure your source files and where you write them are on separate hard drives. You are ripping from images not DVDs right?
glowrider
Apr 17, 2007, 07:57 AM
We're talking Apples and Oranges Glowrider. I never use H.264 and I never use single pass encoding. So your rates are very slow because you are using a very high bitrate with single pass H.264.
Use 800 kbps two pass FFmpeg non H.264 and your number will be radically faster. It's encouraging that Handbrake is useing 4 cores each. Also make sure your source files and where you write them are on separate hard drives. You are ripping from images not DVDs right?
FFmpeg doesn't always play on my Apple TV, don't know why, but h264 always does. But with the preset, all works fine. I'm ripping from one drive to another. I'll try doing a lower bitrate 2pass for you later.
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