iPhone on Target for Late June

[MacRumors]

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Reuters reports (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070418/bs_nm/iphone_att_dc_1) that an AT&T executive confirmed that the iPhone will be arriving "at the end of June".

"Our expectations are good. Our testing has been good," said AT&T Chief Operating Officer Randall Stephenson. "The iPhone is on target to launch in June."

This is consistent with Apple's previous statements regarding the iPhone's progress. Apple announced (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/04/12/apple-delays-leopard-release/) that iPhone was on target on April 12th:

iPhone has already passed several of its required certification tests and is on schedule to ship in late June as planned

This is despite recent claims that the iPhone was running into issues (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/04/17/iphone-seeing-some-delays/).

[noone]

Works for me. Late June gives me more time to save money!:D

[mac17]

thank god i was getting scared it would be delayed:) :apple:

[mrkramer]

thank god i was getting scared it would be delayed:) :apple:

They are probably under a contract to have it done by June, and that is why they took developers off of Leopard to work on it.

[iAlan]

This is good news for those of you who can actually buy an iPhone -- ie. Americans. Not that I have anything against Americans (luv u guys!) but Apple seem to have forgoten that they have other markets that contribute a lot to the financial performace of Apple as well -- and I am not just talking about the iPhone, I am talking about existing hardware and software. Not only are we all waiting for the new updated machines, Leopard , iLife and the like, the availability and release schedule of the 'bump' products (ie small upgrades) is slower in many non-US markets. If the iPhone hits some sudden snag then there is nothing to fall back on at the moment (unless something cool is announced at the WWDC and available immediately) -- in the US or elsewher for that matter.

Bottom line, good news the iPhone release is on target, but what about the rest of us...and more importantly what about the Mac?

I guess you could say what about 'the computer for the rest of us'

[/RANT]

[Max Payne]

Apple also assured us that Leopard is on time 3 weeks before they announced it will be delayed until October. I don't trust Apple on this one.

[nagromme]

So here's the year's sequence of exciting stories on the iPhone ship schedule:

1. "iPhone expected in June."

2. "iPhone may be riddled with problems, for all anyone knows! As a result, iPhone now expected in June."

3. "iPhone expected in June."

[nagromme]

... but Apple seem to have forgoten that they have other markets that contribute a lot to the financial performace of Apple as well -- and I am not just talking about the iPhone, I am talking about existing hardware and software....

Apple just released a ton of new software days ago, and 8-core pro Macs shortly before that. Other Macs are presumably coming--likely next month with Intel's Santa Rosa.

Meanwhile, OS X has been delayed 4 months, with progress and new builds continuing to be released nonetheless.

We don't know what Macs (or secret OS X features) may be coming along, but it sure doesn't sound like any "forgetting" to me. Rather, it sounds as though the iPhone is an OS X product (known fact) and thus used some of the same talent that could have kept Leopard moving more quickly.

A shame, but hardly any indication of Apple neglecting the Mac. That's a popular cry with little evidence, and has been for years. Some things are late, some are early (like the Intel transition--a HUGE Mac-centric project) and some are on time. Late makes headlines, but it doesn't mean the sky is falling.

As for finances, Apple seems to be doing quite well, and their long-term plans look even better. Mac sales are rising EVEN during the temporary spike of PC sales related to Vista's release: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/04/18/apples_mac_sales_rock_steady_despite_vista.html

[McGarvels]

I just really hope the iPhone ships in June. Can you imagine if Apple has to delay it's launch. There might be riots...on MacRumors at least. Something I won't be looking forward too.

[japanime]

Isn't it amazing how Apple manages to keep the iPhone in the headlines when, truth be told, there really isn't anything new to report on it?

One thing is for sure--Apple's marketing department is worth every penny of its payroll.

[Doctor Q]

Now we can watch for rumors about the exact day of release, and argue about whether "late June" means the last Tuesday of June (the 26th), the last weekday of June (the 29th), or the last day of June (the 30th).

[twoodcc]

Works for me. Late June gives me more time to save money!:D

yeah it does. but man, too bad it couldn't be June 11th......June 10th is my birthday :(

[synth3tik]

A certain about of hype is good to build interest. This is ridiculous though. for the first time since MacWorld I am doubtful about getting one, just because I am so sick of all this iPhone hype.

[Digital Skunk]

First it's late... then it's on time... just get it here so I can drool over it!:mad:

And touch and play with it at the Apple Store. :D

[n-abounds]

So here's the year's sequence of exciting stories on the iPhone ship schedule:

1. "iPhone expected in June."

2. "iPhone may be riddled with problems, for all anyone knows! As a result, iPhone now expected in June."

3. "iPhone expected in June."

Thank you- I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. What is with everyone?

[mikeinternet]

june is still soooooo far away.

[TheAnswer]

Now we can watch for rumors about the exact day of release, and argue about whether "late June" means the last Tuesday of June (the 26th), the last weekday of June (the 29th), or the last day of June (the 30th).

Shipping in late June:

[heisetax]

thank god i was getting scared it would be delayed:) :apple:


Why would it be delayed. Apple is no longer a compter company, but a small tinket company with its iPod & upcoming iPhone. You noticed that resourses wre not taken from the iPhone to bring out Mac OS 10.5 on time. But rather the reverse was true. Resourses wre taken from the Mac OS development to be used on a limited market gadget.

The iPhone may look cute & fill a small niche market, but is being late on the release of OS 10.5 late & looking like MS really worth the price. Because Apple is now a trinket company they seem not to be concerned with the loss of sales, loss of image & loss of keekping the Mac Computer User satisfied.

I know only one person that has AT&T cell phone service & he doesnot have the money to purchase an iPhone. Those, like me, that have other service have no plans to purchase such a seemingly high priced cell phone gadget or trinket. My son had his cell phone & PDA tied together, but had to replace it because the cell phone no longer operated. When he purchased new he went with a Palm for his PDA needs & a separate cell phone for his phone needs. He said that he would never again get a combined device. Apple research seems to indicate that my son is in the minority group. I for one never went the route of a combined unit. I have a Palm PDA, an iPod for music & a Motorola cell phone for my phone needs. Why would I want to combine them? Cell phones needs to be replaced too often in my opinion to have large scale devices in the same package.

Bill the TaxMan

[Konradx]

I wonder if it will be paper launch, or people will actually be able to order them.

[peestandingup]

Im pretty sick of AT&T throwing in their 2 cents about the iPhone, making iPhone announcements, etc. I bet Steve isnt too happy with them as well.

Hey, AT&T. Know your role. You arent making the iPhone or controlling it in anyway. You're just the carrier. So, lets leave all the iPhone talk to Apple, eh??

[Zwhaler]

...Then what will we see at WWDC? This year has been very dissapointing for us consumers.

[robPOD]

...Then what will we see at WWDC? This year has been very dissapointing for us consumers.

Hopefully some new ipods, its been almost a year and a half since the fifth gen was released.

[quantman]

Why would it be delayed. Apple is no longer a compter company, but a small tinket company with its iPod & upcoming iPhone. You noticed that resourses wre not taken from the iPhone to bring out Mac OS 10.5 on time. But rather the reverse was true. Resourses wre taken from the Mac OS development to be used on a limited market gadget.

The iPhone may look cute & fill a small niche market, but is being late on the release of OS 10.5 late & looking like MS really worth the price. Because Apple is now a trinket company they seem not to be concerned with the loss of sales, loss of image & loss of keekping the Mac Computer User satisfied.

I know only one person that has AT&T cell phone service & he doesnot have the money to purchase an iPhone. Those, like me, that have other service have no plans to purchase such a seemingly high priced cell phone gadget or trinket. My son had his cell phone & PDA tied together, but had to replace it because the cell phone no longer operated. When he purchased new he went with a Palm for his PDA needs & a separate cell phone for his phone needs. He said that he would never again get a combined device. Apple research seems to indicate that my son is in the minority group. I for one never went the route of a combined unit. I have a Palm PDA, an iPod for music & a Motorola cell phone for my phone needs. Why would I want to combine them? Cell phones needs to be replaced too often in my opinion to have large scale devices in the same package.

Bill the TaxMan


There are many millions waiting to buy the Iphone at its current price!

I am in the market for at least 2. The service plan is the same as the BB/Treo and the Iphone is better if I can really use the web as demoed by Jobs.

None of the current phones offered by any manufacturer can truly get me into a NY times website or Google or Google maps or Yahoo or Yahoo Finance.

If the Iphone can achieve this breakthrough I will finally get full use out of the unlimited service plan at airports, doctors offices, restaurants, bars, vacation, airplanes or any where I am mobile without having to lug around a PC.

Get with the times, old chap!

[Stella]

...Then what will we see at WWDC? This year has been very dissapointing for us consumers.

Preview of OSX. Review of iPhone.

New hardware.

[Cult Follower]

This is such a relief.

[lord patton]

Shipping in late June:

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

I love this place.

[heisetax]

Apple just released a ton of new software days ago, and 8-core pro Macs shortly before that. Other Macs are presumably coming--likely next month with Intel's Santa Rosa.

Meanwhile, OS X has been delayed 4 months, with progress and new builds continuing to be released nonetheless.

We don't know what Macs (or secret OS X features) may be coming along, but it sure doesn't sound like any "forgetting" to me. Rather, it sounds as though the iPhone is an OS X product (known fact) and thus used some of the same talent that could have kept Leopard moving more quickly.

A shame, but hardly any indication of Apple neglecting the Mac. That's a popular cry with little evidence, and has been for years. Some things are late, some are early (like the Intel transition--a HUGE Mac-centric project) and some are on time. Late makes headlines, but it doesn't mean the sky is falling.

As for finances, Apple seems to be doing quite well, and their long-term plans look even better. Mac sales are rising EVEN during the temporary spike of PC sales related to Vista's release: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/04/18/apples_mac_sales_rock_steady_despite_vista.html



Remember the switch to Intel got done early, not because of Apple but because Intel stepped up their speed & Apple needed to to keep up or lose face. But then they have choosen to lose face in the Mac OS release delay.

Also the Mac Pro is not as good as the pci-express PPC G5 Mac. The PPC G5 Mac has 32 lanes, while the Mac Pro only has 26 lanes. Presently I have 1 video card at 16 lanes, 1 at 8 lanes. This only leaves 2 lanes left. I need to add a SCSI card, but they require 4 lanes. That means that since Apple used an Intel mother board for the Mac Pro, there was a lose of needed pci-express lanes. It seems that my choice will have to be to slow down my ATI duel slot card to 8x to be able to get the 4x SCSI card. Better would be if I could go: 16, 4, 4, & 4. If Apple had actually made the board with 32 or more lanes I could have fone with a: 16x, 8x, 4x & 4x. Much better.

The above things will probably not happen because they have left much of the Mac motherboards to Intel to design. I came to Apple back in 1984 to stay away from Intel only to have an Intel Mac now. That was only because I ned to run Windows so much of the time. Other than running WindowsI like my older PPC Mac better. I could run 4 displays with it just like I do now. With my current setup I could run 3 30" displays, ubt I'm waiting for something new.

Does Apple build anything any more? or is it all built by third party manufacturers in China? My Mac Pro said Assembled in the US of Foreign & Doestic parts. But my PowerBooks & iPods you could trace from China to the US.

I'm waiting for a Intel Mac Pro with 32 or more lanes. I'm waitng for Applle to have an Intel MacBook Pro with a hard drive that can be changed as easy as in the Intel MacBooks. My 15" Ti PowerBook has a 160 GB hard drive in it. My 17" AL PowerBook still has it original 80 GB drive in it. I have purchased my last substandard Mac portable. I need the large screen of the 17", but would rather play with the easily upgradable Ti PowerBook.

I will not hold my breath for Apple to make these needed chages as I don't really expect the the new Apple Trinket Company is taking computers as seriouly as most out there seems to think they are doing.

Bill the TaxMan

[inkswamp]

Apple also assured us that Leopard is on time 3 weeks before they announced it will be delayed until October. I don't trust Apple on this one.

Apple has some partnerships involved in the iPhone (AT&T, Yahoo, Google, etc.) so meeting its deadline is probably a higher priority for them than meeting Leopard's deadline--as much as that sucks. Also, there has been a lot of public interest in the iPhone and Apple stands to get hit with a lot of bad publicity should its release date slip. I have a feeling Apple means what they're saying on this one.

[dmelgar]

Apple just released a ton of new software days ago, and 8-core pro Macs shortly before that. Other Macs are presumably coming--likely next month with Intel's Santa Rosa.

Meanwhile, OS X has been delayed 4 months, with progress and new builds continuing to be released nonetheless.

We don't know what Macs (or secret OS X features) may be coming along, but it sure doesn't sound like any "forgetting" to me. Rather, it sounds as though the iPhone is an OS X product (known fact) and thus used some of the same talent that could have kept Leopard moving more quickly.

A shame, but hardly any indication of Apple neglecting the Mac. That's a popular cry with little evidence, and has been for years. Some things are late, some are early (like the Intel transition--a HUGE Mac-centric project) and some are on time. Late makes headlines, but it doesn't mean the sky is falling.

As for finances, Apple seems to be doing quite well, and their long-term plans look even better. Mac sales are rising EVEN during the temporary spike of PC sales related to Vista's release: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/04/18/apples_mac_sales_rock_steady_despite_vista.html

You complain about little evidence, yet what evidence do you produce to prove that Apple still cares about the Mac?
"Other Macs are presumably coming--likely next month with Intel's Santa Rosa." Unlikely next month given Apple's current rate of development. Rumoring about phantom products doesn't prove Apple still cares about Macs.

Recent evidence on the LACK of Mac focus includes:
- Removing "computer" from the name of the company.
- Zero mention of Mac anything at Mac world keynote. Especially ironic given the name of the conference.
- Leopard delayed because a phone is a higher priority.
- Mini woefully behind and in need of an update to at least C2D. Rest of the line starting to age and prices for hard drives and memory especially onerous. Apple charging $250-300 to upgrade to a 160gig drive when a new 160 gig drive in quantity of one can be had for $100.

[phillipjfry]

Do I dare jinx the community?

I don't think there would be anything short of fires, raids, and mass shallow graves in the event that the iPhone is delayed as well. Apple is going to do everything in its power to keep this gadget on time.
People had doubts about Leopard being late, and it came true, but i guess this is more about Apple setting the story straight and not letting people second guess them.
Maybe which is why commercials about iPhone have been shown, press releases...released, and why no one had heard a peep from the Leopard department. :confused:

[nagromme]

You complain about little evidence, yet what evidence do you produce to prove that Apple still cares about the Mac?


You quoted my evidence in your own post :) I'll add the non-stop Mac ads to the list :)

As for your evidence that Apple doesn't care... it's mainly evidence that Apple does many things in ADDITION to computers. That's no surprise, and has been true for many years. Those additional products sell a lot of Macs, as it happens, and strengthen the platform.

Nobody truly believes that Apple no longer cares about computers. It makes a nice soundbite to repeat though :p

I also like how each person notes THEIR particular unsatisfied desire and turns that into some general problem. Meanwhile ignoring all the other things Apple has done recently--like the 8-core tower or the new pro software--that OTHER people care about. Fear not: the Mac Mini will be updated, and the timing for that release will not be random, nor caused by "forgetting" Macs, nor caused by not caring or other childish motives. It will be a business decision with actual adult reasons--be they marketing reasons, a wait for Intel's Santa Rosa, or reasons we will never hear. Maybe Apple will release a Mini later this month that's far better than the Mini they could have released a month ago. The suspense is hard, but something new IS coming, for all Mac product lines.

The wait for a Mini displeases you. The number of PCI channels in a Mac Pro displeases someone else. The looooong wait for a subnotebook displeases me. That doesn't lead me to the conclusion that Apple "doesn't care" about computers.

[Konradx]

I dont think they can afford to delay the iPhone with the competition most likely furiously building copycats and competitive phones. What does Leopard have as competition....vista? HAH.

[stagi]

I can't wait until june, might have to pick up one for me and one for my wife :)

[Macula]

Steve Jobs last October:

"Looking forward, 2007 is likely to be one of the most exciting new product years in Apple's history"

...He meant 2008.

[dmelgar]

First it's late... then it's on time... just get it here so I can drool over it!:mad:

And touch and play with it at the Apple Store. :D

Have to get out more...

[TheBobcat]

I really don't see why everyone's panties are getting in a bunch from Apple dropping "computer" from the name.

Everyones complaining about Apple not refreshing its hardware and OSX being delayed 120 days?

Umm...Apple has had hardware upgrade droughts before, and trust me, they will happen again. And as far as an OS (or any software for that matter) being delayed, there are companies that exclusively focus on software and that is commonplace. It is nonsense to think that a name change and an OS/Hardware drought are signifying the end of the Mac's relevance to Apple.

Like it or not, iPhone is the most publicized and potentially biggest product launch for Apple since the original Macintosh. Their credibility in the mainstream is riding on this. It is not riding on Leopard, Leopard will be a blip on the media radar screen if picked up at all.

Apple made the absolute right choice for their future. It includes the Mac, in fact I would venture to say centers on the Mac, but right now, iPhone is the most important thing they need to deal with, and will determine their immediate future.

[SMM]

Why would it be delayed. Apple is no longer a compter company, but a small tinket company with its iPod & upcoming iPhone. You noticed that resourses wre not taken from the iPhone to bring out Mac OS 10.5 on time. But rather the reverse was true. Resourses wre taken from the Mac OS development to be used on a limited market gadget.............



You are demonstrating a general lack of knowledge of new product development and marketing. If you want to understand the process, rather just making blanket statements, there is a wealth of great information out there. It is much more involved than you seem to think.

[dAlen]

lol - just like how they were on track for leopard, and denied that they were behind...oops...6 months delay, oh shucks folks...you know how it goes. :D

- by the way, I dont give a rats *** about their phone. ;)

was going to buy a computer from them...but I guess thats on hold...indefinately now, as I might just by something else instead with the money. But Im just one customer, I wont affect apple...unless there are a lot more people like me. lolo


Peace

Dalen

[nagromme]

... was going to buy a computer from them...but I guess thats on hold...indefinately now, as I might just by something else instead with the money. But Im just one customer, I wont affect apple...unless there are a lot more people like me. lolo

As long as that "something else" runs a better OS than Mac OS X Tiger, you have yourself a good plan :)

[SMM]

Steve Jobs last October:

"Looking forward, 2007 is likely to be one of the most exciting new product years in Apple's history"

...He meant 2008.

We have barely began the second quarter, right? Apple has not given a 2008 delivery to anything I have heard about. So, what is your point (if there actually is one)? Are you trolling, or still throwing a temper tantrum over Leopard?

[SMM]

lol - just like how they were on track for leopard, and denied that they were behind...oops...6 months delay, oh shucks folks...you know how it goes. :D

- by the way, I dont give a rats *** about their phone. ;)

was going to buy a computer from them...but I guess thats on hold...indefinately now, as I might just by something else instead with the money. But Im just one customer, I wont affect apple...unless there are a lot more people like me. lolo


Peace

Dalen

There have been some dreadful posts about the Leopard reschedule, but yours has to be in the top five worst. Perhaps it is because it is so bloody lame. Come on, man. Yours is just a pitiful recital of most. It:

1) Expresses nothing new
2) Is absolutely stupid (anyone smart enough to actually buy a Mac, would not turn on the company which still makes the best OS available)
3) Simply regurgitates the "you just lost me" yawner (like anyone believes it)

Come on, Bill. I realize you have been looking pretty damn silly over the past few years (I know Balmer jumping around on his 'hobby horse' did not help). And I know it sucks when the Justice Department hold you accountable to the same rules as anyone else. But, bashing Mr Jobs and Apple is not going to work anymore. Make good products, demonstrate some originality and ingenuity, and quit trying to screw people all the time. You may be able to keep the ship afloat, if you do these things.

And for all you paid Apple-Bashers, I would make sure you always cash those checks pronto!

[artpease]

I can't wait until june, might have to pick up one for me and one for my wife :)

LOL, do you really think you will be able to buy one or two of these off the shelf in June?
It will be months before you buy one off the shelf...:D

[stagi]

LOL, do you really think you will be able to buy one or two of these off the shelf in June?
It will be months before you buy one off the shelf...:D

With a $600 price tag I am sure you will be able to get them, might not be easy but I bet they will have a decent production.:)

[matticus008]

Apple also assured us that Leopard is on time 3 weeks before they announced it will be delayed until October. I don't trust Apple on this one.
An announcement is only true until it's over. That's true of any company or any press release. All's fair in love and PR.

Something is on time until it's not. Profound, I know, but true. Take plane delays--the plane was always going to be late from a certain point onward, and they're aware of that possibility, but they won't admit it until it crosses a threshold where it is no longer possible to be on time. That's why you might only get the status update an hour ahead of time, even though the storm that caused it was seven hours ago, or why Apple won't announce a delay until it's inevitable.

You have to play the media right. Sometimes, you want a rolling announcement (slow leaks to build momentum), but sometimes you have to control the message, deny rumors, and turn corners on your own call. The Leopard delay is the latter. A slow leak would have looked like Apple was less in control.
Now we can watch for rumors about the exact day of release, and argue about whether "late June" means the last Tuesday of June (the 26th), the last weekday of June (the 29th), or the last day of June (the 30th).
No, it'll be released by June 18th (because that's the last day of June in my opinion and anything after that is late, calendars be damned!).
Remember the switch to Intel got done early, not because of Apple but because Intel stepped up their speed & Apple needed to to keep up or lose face.
Well, considering that the Intel switch wasn't dependent on Intel at all, that doesn't make much sense. Apple waited for the Core architecture before starting the switch, and they finished it a year early. Apple didn't need to keep up with anything. They made a commitment to switch everything over within two years and did it in just one. If Intel hadn't released a single new processor since the original Core Duo, Apple still would have finished ahead of projections.

Nobody truly believes that Apple no longer cares about computers. It makes a nice soundbite to repeat though :p
Yep, but not as good as "Apple doesn't care about black people." Now sit back and watch that one fester in the "blogosphere."
I also like how each person notes THEIR particular unsatisfied desire and turns that into some general problem.
Apple will go out of business if they don't start selling furniture. Are they stupid? Obviously millions of people would buy Apple-designed furniture and they're shooting themselves in the foot and if there's no furniture by October I will never buy anything Apple again! Oh, and they should sell real apples, too. Otherwise it's false advertising and I'm going to get my lawyer panties all in a bunch.

[running]

OK, everybody is complaining here, so I will start too :) right now, I don't care so much about Leopard (hey, Tiger is the best system out there! I am quite happy with it), what bugs me more is no intel version of MS Office (pages are terrible in opening Word, OpenOffice/NeoOffice are painfully slow, not talking about PPC Word).

But I am quite surprised how iPhone is ... well, not so great. Yes, it has a great GUI, the best in the world maybe. But it costs 500$. And there is no free market for application, just "apple-controlled". That means crippled.

And, I live in EU and it will cost lot more here, especially now, when €=$0.7, but apple has 1€=1$. And it will be delayed more 6 months here (they say 2008!). And I expect application installation to be even more crippled than in US.

I am afraid (but it's only my opinion) that iPhone will be the same succes for Apple that N-Gage was for NOKIA. Great phone&computer merge, but not so succesful in market.

[koobcamuk]

Preview of OSX. Review of iPhone.

New hardware.

It had better have some cool new hardware. Weren't the first 30 years "only the beginning"??

Strange, but this year (with the exception of a phone) has seemed really dry in terms of Apple stuff.

[nagromme]

It had better have some cool new hardware. Weren't the first 30 years "only the beginning"??

Strange, but this year (with the exception of a phone) has seemed really dry in terms of Apple stuff.

Yeah, it's been 3.5 months, not much time left in 2007, and we've seen no sign of any products being released this year except:

* iPhone (with additional models like 3G planned)
* Leopard (and new iLife?)
* 8-core Macs
* Final Cut Server
* Final Cut Pro 6
* Soundtrack Pro 2
* DVD Studio Pro 4
* Motion 3
* Shuffles in colors
* DRM-free iTunes (and iTunes 7.1 adding misc. features like Complete My Album)
* 802.11n Airport Extreme
* Apple TV
* ProRes 422

I hope Apple can manage to squeeze more new products into the remaining 8.5 months of the year ;)

[matticus008]

Yeah, it's been 3.5 months, not much time left in 2007, and we've seen no sign of any products being released this year except:

* iPhone (with additional models like 3G planned)
* Leopard (and new iLife?)
* 8-core Macs
* Final Cut Server
* Final Cut Pro 6
* Soundtrack Pro 2
* DVD Studio Pro 4
* Motion 3
* Shuffles in colors
* DRM-free iTunes (and iTunes 7.1 adding misc. features like Complete My Album)
* 802.11n Airport Extreme
* Apple TV

And:

ProRes 422
IO-HD box
Lightweight OS X (chucking out all the extras to make the fat girl fly is a major upfront investment that leaves the door wide open for new devices running OS X--iPods, subnotebooks, tablets, other AppleTV models, or anything else Apple might decide to pursue)

[Tara Davis]

I see the iPhone as the Return of the Newton.

A small hand-held device which does all kinds of things you didn't even know you "needed" to be able to do, which costs so much (in terms of price plus the service plan) that the vast majority of people won't even spend any time considering buying one.

Eat up martha.

[dante@sisna.com]

Why would it be delayed. Apple is no longer a compter company, but a small tinket company with its iPod & upcoming iPhone. You noticed that resourses wre not taken from the iPhone to bring out Mac OS 10.5 on time. But rather the reverse was true. Resourses wre taken from the Mac OS development to be used on a limited market gadget.

The iPhone may look cute & fill a small niche market, but is being late on the release of OS 10.5 late & looking like MS really worth the price. Because Apple is now a trinket company they seem not to be concerned with the loss of sales, loss of image & loss of keekping the Mac Computer User satisfied.

I know only one person that has AT&T cell phone service & he doesnot have the money to purchase an iPhone. Those, like me, that have other service have no plans to purchase such a seemingly high priced cell phone gadget or trinket. My son had his cell phone & PDA tied together, but had to replace it because the cell phone no longer operated. When he purchased new he went with a Palm for his PDA needs & a separate cell phone for his phone needs. He said that he would never again get a combined device. Apple research seems to indicate that my son is in the minority group. I for one never went the route of a combined unit. I have a Palm PDA, an iPod for music & a Motorola cell phone for my phone needs. Why would I want to combine them? Cell phones needs to be replaced too often in my opinion to have large scale devices in the same package.

Bill the TaxMan

Wow, As a Mac user for 19 years (bought a Plus in 1988) I could not disagree with your statements more.

[inkswamp]

Why would it be delayed. Apple is no longer a compter company, but a small tinket company with its iPod & upcoming iPhone. You noticed that resourses wre not taken from the iPhone to bring out Mac OS 10.5 on time.

You're new to Macs, I take it.

I've been using Macs since the early 90s and following Apple since around 95 and let me be very clear for the sake of any of you newer folks: Apple has ALWAYS made other products besides computers.

The iPhone, in this regard, is nothing new. At one time, Apple made printers and other peripherals. They branched out into eWorld, Newtons, CD players, Pippin, Mac TV, etc. And you know, they all flopped. But now that Apple is getting good at making these other products, people are freaking out. And nothing has really changed. They're just much better at it now.

So all this Chicken Little stuff I see is amusing at best, annoying at worst. Apple isn't going to abandon their computers, and delaying some products because they want to get the iPhone just right isn't sufficient evidence to start screaming about the sky falling. If you think that's in their plans, then tell me why the heck they just went through the agonizing and expensive process of moving the entire platform to Intel? Why go to the expense if Macs are on the chopping block?

[nagromme]

And:

ProRes 422
IO-HD box
Lightweight OS X (chucking out all the extras to make the fat girl fly is a major upfront investment that leaves the door wide open for new devices running OS X--iPods, subnotebooks, tablets, other AppleTV models, or anything else Apple might decide to pursue)


ProRes 422 is a pretty big deal! I'll have to add that to my list :)

IO-HD is not an Apple product, but rather one by AJA: http://www.aja.com (Though clearly done with Apple's collaboration.)

The iPhone's "OS X mobile" isn't exactly a new product by itself, but it IS a huge effort in my view, since it means OS X has now been ported to run on THREE processor architectures (PPC, Intel, and ARM). I expect we'll see it in new iPods this year. If there's time ;)

[jonharris200]

Isn't it amazing how Apple manages to keep the iPhone in the headlines when, truth be told, there really isn't anything new to report on it?
Maybe Apple started the 'delay' rumours themselves, only to then quash them. :D
There are many millions waiting to buy the Iphone at its current price! I am in the market for at least 2.
Ok, thanks. I'll just PM you my address. ;)
Yeah, it's been 3.5 months, not much time left in 2007, and we've seen no sign of any products being released this year except:

* iPhone (with additional models like 3G planned)
* Leopard (and new iLife?)
* 8-core Macs
* Final Cut Server
* Final Cut Pro 6
* Soundtrack Pro 2
* DVD Studio Pro 4
* Motion 3
* Shuffles in colors
* DRM-free iTunes (and iTunes 7.1 adding misc. features like Complete My Album)
* 802.11n Airport Extreme
* Apple TV
* ProRes 422

I hope Apple can manage to squeeze more new products into the remaining 8.5 months of the year ;)
Haha! :)
Im pretty sick of AT&T throwing in their 2 cents about the iPhone, making iPhone announcements, etc. I bet Steve isnt too happy with them as well.
That's partnership, let them have their day in the sun too. :rolleyes:

[Lone Deranger]

Reuters reports (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070418/bs_nm/iphone_att_dc_1) that an AT&T executive confirmed that the iPhone will be arriving "at the end of June".

Heh.... at the cost of delaying my 64bit OSX it'd better be on target!

:(

[matticus008]

IO-HD is not an Apple product, but rather one by AJA: http://www.aja.com (Though clearly done with Apple's collaboration.)
Right, but I was under the impression that the IO-HD box contained particular new hardware to support ProRes 422 which would require Apple development (since they're not much for sharing information with others in the development cycle). I suppose I hadn't really considered that the end product isn't Apple-labeled, though. In my head, I was treating Aja as a contractor (like Foxconn or PortalPlayer), so thanks for the correction!

[LagunaSol]

The iPhone may look cute & fill a small niche market, but is being late on the release of OS 10.5 late & looking like MS really worth the price. Because Apple is now a trinket company they seem not to be concerned with the loss of sales, loss of image & loss of keekping the Mac Computer User satisfied.

Good grief, you mean a "trinket" like the iPod? You know, the device that basically saved the company from complete ruin? Enough with the whining already. Personally, I look forward to Apple's impending domination of the cell phone market.

Oh, I'm also a Mac Computer User, and I'm satisfied. A few more months to wait for Leopard? Yeah, I can handle it.

Too many drama queens around here.

[williedigital]

yeah it does. but man, too bad it couldn't be June 11th......June 10th is my birthday :(

They will take orders starting WWDC. A way to further get whatever is said at that conference into the media. Synergy yo.

[macwatcher]

This is so huge! It could easily be bigger than the iPod if you think in terms of the whole cell phone market. Investors just love the fact that it's still on time for its June release. Just another fine example that Apple continues to know how to do it right!

And when they do delay a release (like OSX's next release), it's for good reason. They'd rather upset investors (who probably mostly own PCs anyway) than release a crummy product.

[shawnce]

So here's the year's sequence of exciting stories on the iPhone ship schedule:

1. "iPhone expected in June."

2. "iPhone may be riddled with problems, for all anyone knows! As a result, iPhone now expected in June."

3. "iPhone expected in June."

Yup... comical isn't it.

[CuteMacGirl]

Why would it be delayed. Apple is no longer a compter company, but a small tinket company with its iPod & upcoming iPhone. You noticed that resourses wre not taken from the iPhone to bring out Mac OS 10.5 on time. But rather the reverse was true. Resourses wre taken from the Mac OS development to be used on a limited market gadget.

The iPhone may look cute & fill a small niche market, but is being late on the release of OS 10.5 late & looking like MS really worth the price. Because Apple is now a trinket company they seem not to be concerned with the loss of sales, loss of image & loss of keekping the Mac Computer User satisfied.

I know only one person that has AT&T cell phone service & he doesnot have the money to purchase an iPhone. Those, like me, that have other service have no plans to purchase such a seemingly high priced cell phone gadget or trinket. My son had his cell phone & PDA tied together, but had to replace it because the cell phone no longer operated. When he purchased new he went with a Palm for his PDA needs & a separate cell phone for his phone needs. He said that he would never again get a combined device. Apple research seems to indicate that my son is in the minority group. I for one never went the route of a combined unit. I have a Palm PDA, an iPod for music & a Motorola cell phone for my phone needs. Why would I want to combine them? Cell phones needs to be replaced too often in my opinion to have large scale devices in the same package.

Bill the TaxMan


I think more people outside the "apple community" are interested in the iPhone so that is why they are working on that more than the Mac OS. The people who are interested in buying the OS are already loyal to the company, the iPhone market is potential new Apple users that will want to buy a new computer a few months after they start using their iPhones.

Personally, I could not be more excited to have an all in one device. It will be nicer to carry only one thing, I don't have to remember 12 different devices before I leave the house, and I can carry a smaller purse! It sounds PERFECT to me!

You say that cell phones need to be replaced to offten. I've had mine for almost 2 years! My point is, if you take care of an electronic product, its going to last you a lot longer!

[Maccus Aurelius]

People that say cell phones must be replaced yearly or even less are just falling for the artificial buzz created by snazzy new phones that vendors pump out regularly. One is not obligated to get a new phone. My Sony Ericsson T-610 is really showing its age, yet never suddenly loses reception, boots faster than the T-Mobile MDA brick I've tested, is the perfect sized candybar form factor and has super battery life to this day, after over 3 years of solid use. At the end of the day, it's still an old, relatively decrepit device compared to the snappier stuff out now, but for general use is durable and reliable.

For marketing purposes, manufacturers create new phones almost daily, but for the average user, the adoption rate needn't be as fast. If I owned an iPhone, it's likely that I'd be using that phone for as long as all of the components work, whether it be 3 years or 6 years. I take good care of my electronics, so I'd have little to worry about in that span of time.

[Silencio]

I think more people outside the "apple community" are interested in the iPhone so that is why they are working on that more than the Mac OS. The people who are interested in buying the OS are already loyal to the company, the iPhone market is potential new Apple users that will want to buy a new computer a few months after they start using their iPhones.

Personally, I could not be more excited to have an all in one device. It will be nicer to carry only one thing, I don't have to remember 12 different devices before I leave the house, and I can carry a smaller purse! It sounds PERFECT to me!

You say that cell phones need to be replaced to offten. I've had mine for almost 2 years! My point is, if you take care of an electronic product, its going to last you a lot longer!

Spot on. Though you're fortunate enough to carry a purse to hold device(s). If I don't carry my work bag with me or it's too warm for a jacket, I'm stuck with just my pants pockets. (I need to find an acceptable man-purse of some sort!) And that's another reason why I don't use my Palm Tungsten T3 for anything besides work.

Each iPhone sold is going to make Apple a much greater profit than each copy of Leopard sold, and the majority of those interested in the iPhone are likely not Mac users.

Since the iPhone runs OS X, it's possible that at least some of the programming work done for the iPhone can be rolled back into Leopard. And someone posted earlier that the UI innovations in the iPhone made Apple rethink some things about Leopard, which seems very plausible to me.

And another point about making your devices last a long time: besides taking good care of them, you have to choose wisely when you first purchase them. Like Maccus Aurelius, I'm still carrying around my Sony Ericsson T616 that I bought over three years ago. If I had bought the other phone I was considering at the time, which is whatever flip phone Motorola was offering at the time, no doubt I would have been forced to buy another phone by now. The fact that my T616 is holding up well has kept me from buying a Palm Treo 680 so I can wait for the iPhone to ship and see it for myself.

[NewbieNerd]

You say that cell phones need to be replaced to offten. I've had mine for almost 2 years! My point is, if you take care of an electronic product, its going to last you a lot longer!

lol wow, you kept a cell phone for 2 years. Most people do, as that's how long most contracts last, and very rarely do people keep one longer than that since you can get a new free/cheap one when starting a new contract. The point is that, even at lasting 2 years, 500 or 600 bucks is a lot to pay for some people.

[Rocketman]

Im pretty sick of AT&T throwing in their 2 cents about the iPhone, making iPhone announcements, etc. I bet Steve isnt too happy with them as well.

Hey, AT&T. Know your role. You arent making the iPhone or controlling it in anyway. You're just the carrier. So, lets leave all the iPhone talk to Apple, eh??

In this case it served as corroberation on the iPhone timeliness in light of the Apple about face on the Leopard release date.

Rocketman

[Claytoniss]

[QUOTE=You say that cell phones need to be replaced to offten. I've had mine for almost 2 years! My point is, if you take care of an electronic product, its going to last you a lot longer![/QUOTE]

WORD!!! Take care of your products is right. I didn't have a cell till I turned 25! I waited on the hopes that the iPhone would come around. But I did thought ahead and purchased a cingular SLVR with iTunes. I figured they would carry the iPhone since they already are dealing with :apple:

I wonder what kindof klutzy insurace they will carry on it. I hope its like my old iPod service app plan?

[Rocketman]

I find the estimated 50% mindshare figure in this article interesting.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/04/19/iphone_could_turn_technology_world_on_its_ear_study_shows.html

As many know I was touting the value of the iPhone (ATN) "beyond the phone app" for many months now.

I can't wait for ATNN.

Rocketman

[Cult Follower]

this is really super news

[japanime]

This is so huge! It could easily be bigger than the iPod if you think in terms of the whole cell phone market.


The "whole cell phone market"?

The iPhone hasn't even been released yet, and it's already looking like last year's model to those of us here in Japan. And I think our friends in South Korea probably feel the same way.

[Chosenbydestiny]

lol wow, you kept a cell phone for 2 years. Most people do, as that's how long most contracts last, and very rarely do people keep one longer than that since you can get a new free/cheap one when starting a new contract. The point is that, even at lasting 2 years, 500 or 600 bucks is a lot to pay for some people.

It's nothing new. Smart phones have been in that price range for several years now.

[Rocketman]

Eric Bolling on CNBC reported Apple will have a wifi iPod akin to iPhone in late 2007. He profffers even a 1% Mac share increase is good for a move to $110 on the stock of AAPL.

Rocketman