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kaltsasa
Mar 15, 2002, 11:21 PM
I helped my boss move some arcade machines and in his garage he had a next cube, full package of everything and he gave it to mee!!!! any one else have a next product!? I would like to meet some fellow nextophobes lol



Hemingray
Mar 15, 2002, 11:35 PM
I think you mean nextophiles... ;)

menoinjun
Mar 15, 2002, 11:51 PM
I think Blakespot's really into NeXT.

That's a great find!

-Pete

kaltsasa
Mar 16, 2002, 12:02 AM
Came with openstep 3.3 and all. I have been looking for one of these for a long time......i'm in collage right now, when i get a house i want to have a classic gaming and computing room in my basement with nes' and snes's and apple II's and all that good stuff and this next cube will be awsome! My feonce says i'm crazy but hey, arn't all us mac users crazy!

blakespot
Mar 16, 2002, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by kaltsasa
I helped my boss move some arcade machines and in his garage he had a next cube, full package of everything and he gave it to mee!!!! any one else have a next product!? I would like to meet some fellow nextophobes lol

I am a NeXT fan. I have a NeXTStation Turbo Color ( pic (http://www.blakespot.com/list/images/slab.jpg) ). I run NEXTSTEP v3.3 on it. I also have OpenStep v4.2. Up until a little over a year ago you could e-mail Apple and ask for either NEXTSTEP or OpenStep and they would send you the docs and CD's if you gave them the SN off your NeXT unit. I asked for each on separate occasions and they gave both to me! NEXTSTEP runs faster than OpenStep on the NeXT machines, but OpenStep is a shade more up to date.

There's lots you can do with the NeXT machines. Just do google searches for "NeXT" and you'll find some good stuff. Welcome to the bretheren.


blakespot

kaltsasa
Mar 16, 2002, 12:23 AM
coolios! I havnt the time to get it all cleaned up and running right now(classes are kicking my ass) but have a bootable hd and it does boot into a command line or something like that so i know it works. EEEEEEEE next 'm so excited and i just cant hide it lol

IndyGopher
Mar 16, 2002, 12:25 AM
I've had a couple of NeXT cubes (and a handfull of slabs) but the optical drives in the cubes never seemed to work for long. One lasted about 5 minutes longer than the time it took to transfer the OS.. luckily I also had it on CD. They are such cool-looking machines. The first time I booted OS X Server (the old one.. version 1.x that wouldn't run on G4's) I was shocked by how much it looked and acted like NeXTStep. I'm glad that OS X 10.x has buried the Unix much deeper than NeXTStep... but part of me misses the less dressed-up aspects. Great machine! (And can't beat the price!) Congrats!

kaltsasa
Mar 16, 2002, 12:28 AM
A couple of very jelous techies at my school lol. i have an external scsi drive for it if the internal doesnt work, i hope mabye over spring break in 2 weeks i can get it cleaned up and running and some pics taken

blakespot
Mar 20, 2002, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by IndyGopher
I've had a couple of NeXT cubes (and a handfull of slabs) but the optical drives in the cubes never seemed to work for long. One lasted about 5 minutes longer than the time it took to transfer the OS.. luckily I also had it on CD. They are such cool-looking machines. The first time I booted OS X Server (the old one.. version 1.x that wouldn't run on G4's) I was shocked by how much it looked and acted like NeXTStep. I'm glad that OS X 10.x has buried the Unix much deeper than NeXTStep... but part of me misses the less dressed-up aspects. Great machine! (And can't beat the price!) Congrats!

You could pretty much do everything (as in OS X) under NeXTSTEP without ever using the terminal. It was very impressive. Also impressive is the .app structure. Each application in NeXTSTEP, as in OS X, is a directory, in fact, with all the pieces needed to run the app (binary in that directory). It costs a little in storage, as there are redundant files in most of the app dirs that could be shared in one central location---but it makes for so much neater a system. No throwing of hundreds of files per app into the system dir, etc.

Clean and ideal in a time where GB's cost nothing.


blakespot

Taft
Mar 20, 2002, 09:17 AM
Oh wait, I just got some NeXT stationary. Boo-hoo. :(

I think it would be cool to have a NeXT box, but don't you think NeXT is way too X-Windows/Gnome/KDE-esque? I mean right now, on your Mac, you have most of the advantages of NeXT plus all of the elegance of a Mac OS. OS X is just that good.

And if you don't like OS X ***gasp***, just install XFree86 on top of Darwin (or a full OS X install) and run the OpenStep window manager. Not *exactly* the same, but pretty dang close.

Matthew

Ensign Paris
Mar 20, 2002, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by kaltsasa
Came with openstep 3.3 and all. I have been looking for one of these for a long time......i'm in collage right now, when i get a house i want to have a classic gaming and computing room in my basement with nes' and snes's and apple II's and all that good stuff and this next cube will be awsome! My feonce says i'm crazy but hey, arn't all us mac users crazy!

hey! We are normal, its all the other who are crazy (no offence to ur g/s)

Ensign

kaltsasa
Mar 20, 2002, 01:00 PM
I definitly prefer my speedy mac but i love the nostalga, i just installed new connectors in my nes so they are like new now.

blakespot
Mar 23, 2002, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by mrtrumbe
I think it would be cool to have a NeXT box, but don't you think NeXT is way too X-Windows/Gnome/KDE-esque? I mean right now, on your Mac, you have most of the advantages of NeXT plus all of the elegance of a Mac OS. OS X is just that good.

And if you don't like OS X ***gasp***, just install XFree86 on top of Darwin (or a full OS X install) and run the OpenStep window manager. Not *exactly* the same, but pretty dang close.

Matthew
The one word that best describes NEXTSTEP is "elegant." Let me assure you of that from the start. Prior to OS X, it was the most elegant OS that I have ever seen. In a way it is moreso than OS X becuase its elegance you could witness first hand as early as 1988 when the first version was released! Talk about something being ahead of its time!

OS X differs in many ways, as far as its feel and its user experience, from OS 9. That is becuase OS X basically _is_ the latest version of NEXTSTEP, bringing the NeXT user experience to the Mac, and in the process adding the graphical splendor of Aqua. But make no mistake--it's got the feel of NEXTSTEP. So no, I would not say NEXTSTEP is too X-Windows-like as compared to OS X. It's just not quite as polished.

The popular window managers for Linux AfterStep and GNUStep and WindowMaker are all trying to emulate NEXTSTEP. They do not fully succeeed, as all of the underpinnings of NEXTSTEP are not present in the Linux system. So if you're using those Linux window managers as an example of NEXTSTEP's UI in action. then you're definitely being misled.

It would be silly to do anything serious with NEXTSTEP today, given that I have a dual G4 800 sitting on my desk next to it---but the NeXT unit is one of my most prized posessions, to be sure. It is a shame that everyone has not had the chance to spend a few hours in front of one.


blakespot

blakespot
Mar 23, 2002, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by Ensign Paris


hey! We are normal, its all the other who are crazy (no offence to ur g/s)

Ensign

Actually, I think we might be crazy.


blakespot

blakespot
Mar 23, 2002, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by kaltsasa
I definitly prefer my speedy mac but i love the nostalga, i just installed new connectors in my nes so they are like new now.

Nostalgia is great. I just purchased several 8-bit Ataris and a piece of hardware to add to my hacked i-opener (http://www.blakespot.com/list/images/hacked_iopener.jpg) to give it a real serial port so that I can take this app (I recently purchased as well) and use the PC as a Atari disk drive emulator so that I can load disk images from the PC onto the Atari's without dealing in 5.25" floppies.

Yea, nostalgia is a good thing--so good that here I'm trying to retroactively force nostalgia, as I never really owned an 8-bit Atari before. I read plenty about them (also just got my stack of 14 Creative Computing magazines from 1983-1984 via eBay). We'll see how this works.



blakespot

Mad_Maxintosh
Nov 30, 2003, 05:04 PM
I just fixed up a DOA cube I found in my neighbor's garage. (The full story is going on my homepage soon) If anyone wants openstep 4.0 for sparc, intel, next (User or dev), contact me

5300cs
Nov 30, 2003, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by blakespot
Nostalgia is great. ..Yea, nostalgia is a good thing--so good that here I'm trying to retroactively force nostalgia, as I never really owned an 8-bit Atari before...
blakespot

Nostalgia is the motivation behind almost my entire collection :) Nostalgia is a Good Thing.

I never owned an Atari computer, period (except the 2600, but...) until I got a Portfolio last week. Cool little machine but at the same time limited because I have no idea how to sync it with anything.

Still, machines that I wanted back in the day were thousands, now they can be had off auctions for next to nothing :)

Ed_Oscuro
Dec 5, 2003, 05:13 PM
Bugger, thought this thread was a bit more recent :)

Has anybody who's used a NeXT Cube had the chance to try out a Sharp x68000 series computer? The venerable Sharp machine wouldn't really stand to comparison...but the price was right on those machines, and they sure had the right features.

Hopefully this fellow will be getting a Cube soon. Found one in my home state. It'll sit next to that Sharp x68000 I bought a while back (if/when I get a Cube).

macsmac
Jan 14, 2004, 09:16 AM
Hello,
I've tried to install a NeXTStep 3.3 x86 Version in Virtual PC 5.
For this I've found an installguide for VPC 5 and NeXTStep 3.3.
The basesystemm installation was succesfully.
But when the graphical installer starts it hangs on "starting naming services" or "network services" - what is wrong?

some terms of the installguide:
...
14. Select the drive-- should be 2047MB-- and, when prompted, select the option to 'erase the entire disk and use all 2044 MB for NEXTSTEP' (partitioning is likely moot in VPC). Confirm that, yes, in fact, you really do want to start installing NEXTSTEP.
15. Wait a long while; NS should reformat the 'disk' and install the base operating system.

The following terms of further installation are:

here the VPC hangs -> It will then boot into the graphical installer into which you can install additional packages.

16. Insert driver floppies as prompted.

17. System should boot into Config.app. Do not add display or networking hardware! Might want to go into expert mode and set Boot Graphics to No as it will give better clues if the VPC image doesn't reboot correctly.

18. When prompted, install appropriate packages (and wait another long while).

19. Uncapture the floppy image and reboot (as prompted by NEXTSTEP).

20. System should boot, ask a setup question, then log into the me account. Set the password on me (to myself and logout (this will force a login panel to appear).

21. Login to NEXTSTEP as root.

here you get informations about install the s3 driver.

Thanks for helping!

greetings martin

phreakout13
Jan 15, 2004, 09:14 PM
I don't want to sound stupid, but can someone explain what a NeXT cube is? (I'm only 14 years old)

Powerbook G5
Jan 15, 2004, 09:27 PM
I'd love a NeXT cube, that'd be so nice to have around and have fun working with from time to time. Unfortunately, being a college student, I just don't have the money nor do I have the space to be buying lots of unneeded stuff.

sigamy
Jan 15, 2004, 10:40 PM
I have a Turbo Color slab sitting idle in the basement right now. I need to get my home office in shape so that I can bring it back online. I hope to get it connected to my network and online. I had it online about 4 years ago and it will be intersting to see how Omniweb handles current web sites.

NeXTstep was the most elegant OS ever, until Jaguar (and now Panther)...

It is funny to see the UI elements in Win95 that are 100% pixel for pixel hijackings of items in NeXTstep.