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MacRumors
Apr 25, 2007, 09:30 AM
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Samsung has announced (http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/25/samsung-announces-1-8-inch-120gb-disk-for-umpcs-and-perhaps-ipo/) a 120 GB 1.8" Hard Drive, suitable for use in Apple's full-sized iPods. Currently, Apple's high-end iPod features an 80 GB drive.
Seagate also offers (http://www.macrumors.com/2006/08/14/60gb-and-120gb-1-8-drives-from-seagate/) a 120 GB 1.8" Hard Drive, and Toshiba currently maxes out at 100 GB (http://www.macrumors.com/2006/12/05/toshibas-100gb-1-8-hard-drive/) in the 1.8" variety.
Some recent rumors have indicated that Apple may be toying with the idea of going to an all-flash based lineup (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/03/14/flash-memory-and-apple/), however such a move would make high-capacity iPods impossible at a reasonable price point, even despite plummeting flash prices.
brianus
Apr 25, 2007, 09:36 AM
With Apple's increasing focus on video and the possibility of an iPod refresh with an iPhone-like interface, you'd think they'd want to keep the highest capacities possible at the top of their lineup.
princealfie
Apr 25, 2007, 09:37 AM
How disappointing! I wanted 300 GB for my iPod! :mad: :mad: :mad:
mattscott306
Apr 25, 2007, 09:37 AM
It has been a while since the latest refresh... but I wish they would go with flash based drives.
alywa
Apr 25, 2007, 09:41 AM
It has been a while since the latest refresh... but I wish they would go with flash based drives.
Flash is cool, and will certainly be the future. However, for now, HD based large capacities are the way to go... anything over 16GB of flash is just too expensive right now. A 120GB full-sized iPod would be a nice update.
yzp
Apr 25, 2007, 09:41 AM
Some recent rumors have indicated that :apple: may be toying with the idea of going to an all-flash based lineup (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/03/14/flash-memory-and-apple/).
when macbook and/or macbook pro line-up??? enh?
ortuno2k
Apr 25, 2007, 09:48 AM
80GB Is good enough for me as it is - I don't even have that much music!
But this is nice, this is pretty cool for those who need it.
What I'd like to see is a flash-based full-size iPod, somewhere between 30-60GB - all flash based. Then, that'd be sweet!
mattscott306
Apr 25, 2007, 09:53 AM
Flash is cool, and will certainly be the future. However, for now, HD based large capacities are the way to go... anything over 16GB of flash is just too expensive right now. A 120GB full-sized iPod would be a nice update.
Yeah, I see what your saying. I guess I'll just hope for larger capacities in the smaller lines.
toughboy
Apr 25, 2007, 09:55 AM
if we are to see the true video iPod with touchscreen controls, 120GB harddrive will be a need because a screen like iPhone has can show a much higher quality videos which automatically will take much larger files.
Teddy's
Apr 25, 2007, 09:55 AM
cool!
With the new DRM-free itunes, my library would grow double in size.
Yup, from 1 to 2 Gb. :rolleyes:
iSee
Apr 25, 2007, 09:59 AM
This will be really nice for the next Video iPod. (I assume it will be similar to the iPhone in terms of screen/formfactor, but trades phone/messaging functionality for a hard drive.)
nateDEEZY
Apr 25, 2007, 10:07 AM
MMmm 120GB iPod :D
dernhelm
Apr 25, 2007, 10:11 AM
Darn, someone beat me to a negative vote. I wanted to be the only one too...
;)
belovedmonster
Apr 25, 2007, 10:15 AM
Isn't Leopard supposed to be introducing some feature that will make it possible (easier?) to sync up your entire computer on an iPod and take your settings and documents with you.
How about that then? A new 120GB iPod that makes more of a feature of its portable storage abilities. Not only do you take your entire music collection around with you, but you also take you entire computer. All your internet bookmarks, documents, everything... Make it sync with Windows and OSX in a super simple way only Apple can do.
It would make sense that the iPod move from being a music and media storage device to just a straight ahead storage device.
iscripter
Apr 25, 2007, 10:21 AM
I think it would be great for Apple to include the 120GB harddrive into the next iPod. Just think with that much space you could carry around a couple of seasons worth of TV shows, Justice League season 1-2 and Justice League Unlimited season 1-2 :eek:
Portable video is where the future is at and we will need more harddrive space to carry around more videos.
sushi
Apr 25, 2007, 10:26 AM
It seems to me that this would make the most sense:
- True Video iPod, when introduced, will be HD based with 120GB HD at the top end. It will have a new form factor and interface is similar to the iPhone.
- Other iPods will be Flash memory based with capacities up to 32GB. These iPods are similar in shape to the current Nano.
- The Shuffle remains as the only iPod in the line up without a display.
jklps
Apr 25, 2007, 10:33 AM
I currently have a video 60gb, but if they release a 120gb iPod I'll have to order one when I get my 20" iMac sometime this year...
Gimme gimme gimme 120gb iPod! :)
emotion
Apr 25, 2007, 10:35 AM
Isn't Leopard supposed to be introducing some feature that will make it possible (easier?) to sync up your entire computer on an iPod and take your settings and documents with you.
How about that then? A new 120GB iPod that makes more of a feature of its portable storage abilities. Not only do you take your entire music collection around with you, but you also take you entire computer. All your internet bookmarks, documents, everything... Make it sync with Windows and OSX in a super simple way only Apple can do.
It would make sense that the iPod move from being a music and media storage device to just a straight ahead storage device.
If Apple do go with ZFS instead of HFS+ for leopard (google it) then your ipod could be a simple extension of your everyday computer's HD rather than an extra volume (as I understand it).
orbital
Apr 25, 2007, 10:42 AM
Make the iPhone just that much thicker and drop that baby in it
that would make it the awesomest phone on earth!
emotion
Apr 25, 2007, 10:44 AM
Make the iPhone just that much thicker and drop that baby in it
that would make it the awesomest phone on earth!
With the lowest battery life compared with any of it's competitors.
reubs
Apr 25, 2007, 10:50 AM
I can't imagine ever needing that much capacity...but it makes the question of having your entire collection available almost meaningless. I mean, how many folks have an iTunes library over 120 GB?
What would be nice would be if it had powerful batteries and a high RPM so that the iPod itself could be used as a boot volume and we could always have our computers available.
EDIT: Looks like I should have read all of the posts...
emotion
Apr 25, 2007, 10:55 AM
I can't imagine ever needing that much capacity...but it makes the question of having your entire collection available almost meaningless. I mean, how many folks have an iTunes library over 120 GB?
Just wait 'til all your films in HD need to be stored on your ipod. You'll be screaming out for that capacity then :)
TheBobcat
Apr 25, 2007, 10:57 AM
A size this large will be necessary when Apple (hopefully) makes the transition to HD content for TV and movies.
Edit: Ah, emotion had cat-like reflexes. oh well.
roland.g
Apr 25, 2007, 10:58 AM
A size bump without a full screen touch screen is a waste of an update. The screen on the video isn't big enough and was fine to get the product going, but when the iPhone was announced, it made no sense to do anything with the iPod that didn't involve a true video iPod.
bertpalmer
Apr 25, 2007, 10:59 AM
I agree there is no need for a larger capacity player for music alone, but I use my (60GB) iPod to back up all my photos (20GB).
So a 120GB model would be useful to backup your whole Mac hardrive.
Ditto - wish the iPhone had more than the measly 8GB.
Maccus Aurelius
Apr 25, 2007, 10:59 AM
I can definitely fill that up. I have lots of music (50GB) and even more movies (now at 80GB), and each movie is about 1.5GB in size@720x302 resolution, so a suped up video-optimized iPod is perfect for me. I don't care that much about flash right now, despite being more durable since it's just too expensive at the moment. A video iPod with higher capacity and at *hopefully* same pricepoint as the current line would be a great piece of tech to hold us all over until flash is cheap enough to provide identical capacity for an identical price.
cwoloszynski
Apr 25, 2007, 10:59 AM
I am expecting that the next gen iPod will include WIFI, and could do some OTA syncing to get content and not really need to carry it all in the local HDD.
I am guessing that Apple is eyeing FLASH memory and network storage as a better answer than simply bigger HDD. That certainly would work for most of us (especially with the iPhone, which could use cellular to get content when WiFi is not available).
mashinhead
Apr 25, 2007, 11:05 AM
i say this goes in the sub notebook, new, if there is any, 12 inch powerbook.
nagusjim
Apr 25, 2007, 11:05 AM
I can't imagine ever needing that much capacity...but it makes the question of having your entire collection available almost meaningless. I mean, how many folks have an iTunes library over 120 GB?
Mine isn't over 120, but it no longer fits on my 60GB iPod, and is starting to approach the limits of the 80GB model, too. I'd totally buy a 120GB model. Would be nice to have all of my music with me again.
PlaceofDis
Apr 25, 2007, 11:06 AM
this would be awesome. i could start importing most of my stuff at lossless or 320kbps instead of 128 then. i have right around 50 gigs of music right now. but its ever growing too.
sushi
Apr 25, 2007, 11:18 AM
I mean, how many folks have an iTunes library over 120 GB?
Music only -- probably not that many.
But iTunes also holds videos/movies. So libraries are becoming much larger than they were before.
jholzner
Apr 25, 2007, 11:19 AM
If Apple do go with ZFS instead of HFS+ for leopard (google it) then your ipod could be a simple extension of your everyday computer's HD rather than an extra volume (as I understand it).
ZFS cannot be used as the boot drive.
reubs
Apr 25, 2007, 11:21 AM
I'm not criticizing the idea of a 120 GB iPod, I just can't personally imagine needing 120 GB on the current form-factor of iPods. This seems like it will really only be beneficial with a full-update that includes a true video iPod (as others have said here). And will HD really be that beneficial on something as small as an iPod? Also, what size HD is in the :apple: TV? Could this be heading that way to increase storage in a set-top unit?
m-dogg
Apr 25, 2007, 11:23 AM
Mmmm, bring on the 120 GB fat boy!
There's no such thing as 'big enough.' If I can get more capacity for roughly the same price, bring it on!!!
alywa
Apr 25, 2007, 11:26 AM
i say this goes in the sub notebook, new, if there is any, 12 inch powerbook.
That's a good thought. Who knows, a new "iPod Pro" may, in fact, be a sub-notebook / mini tablet. With Apple, you never really know until they release it.
Teddy's
Apr 25, 2007, 11:30 AM
Mmmm, bring on the 120 GB fat boy!
ROTFL! :D
best quote of the day
sushi
Apr 25, 2007, 11:30 AM
i say this goes in the sub notebook, new, if there is any, 12 inch powerbook.
That would be nice.
I am really hoping that Apple releases a sub notebook with a 12 inch cinema display.
Shagrat
Apr 25, 2007, 11:38 AM
ZFS cannot be used as the boot drive.
Yet... (http://blogs.sun.com/tabriz/entry/zfs_boot)
Shagrat
Apr 25, 2007, 11:50 AM
Isn't Leopard supposed to be introducing some feature that will make it possible (easier?) to sync up your entire computer on an iPod and take your settings and documents with you.
How about that then? A new 120GB iPod that makes more of a feature of its portable storage abilities. Not only do you take your entire music collection around with you, but you also take you entire computer. All your internet bookmarks, documents, everything... Make it sync with Windows and OSX in a super simple way only Apple can do.
It would make sense that the iPod move from being a music and media storage device to just a straight ahead storage device.
As I remember it, there was talk of this sometime ago (when iPods used Firewire, of course) Home on the iPod, or something like that.
However... (http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20050423203849332)
joshwest
Apr 25, 2007, 11:53 AM
how long was it before apple released the 80 gig ipod from the released date of the actual 80 gig drive
nemaslov
Apr 25, 2007, 11:54 AM
I can't imagine ever needing that much capacity...but it makes the question of having your entire collection available almost meaningless. I mean, how many folks have an iTunes library over 120 GB?
What would be nice would be if it had powerful batteries and a high RPM so that the iPod itself could be used as a boot volume and we could always have our computers available.
EDIT: Looks like I should have read all of the posts...
Well use your imagination. My 80GB iPod is full and I have about 110 GB of music on my Mac. It is still only the music for me. Could care less for video on an iPod. I would LOVE to have all my music with me on the road. Now I still have thousands of CDs that are not even loaded in my mac but I can't have everything.
nemaslov
Apr 25, 2007, 11:56 AM
I agree there is no need for a larger capacity player for music alone, but I use my (60GB) iPod to back up all my photos (20GB).
So a 120GB model would be useful to backup your whole Mac hardrive.
Ditto - wish the iPhone had more than the measly 8GB.
As I replied to someone else. Yes there is a need but not for you. I have 110 GB on my mac of only music and I could load twice that amount. It's only music for me and I would love to take the entire collection with me. 120 or200...bringit on!!
koobcamuk
Apr 25, 2007, 11:58 AM
Isn't Leopard supposed to be introducing some feature that will make it possible (easier?) to sync up your entire computer on an iPod and take your settings and documents with you.
How about that then? A new 120GB iPod that makes more of a feature of its portable storage abilities. Not only do you take your entire music collection around with you, but you also take you entire computer. All your internet bookmarks, documents, everything... Make it sync with Windows and OSX in a super simple way only Apple can do.
It would make sense that the iPod move from being a music and media storage device to just a straight ahead storage device.
You could even boot from it via firewire.... oh... not anymore. I did that with my old iPod and had my entire iBook on there. Those were the days... :rolleyes:
Marx55
Apr 25, 2007, 12:05 PM
Anyone knows the hard disk form factor vs capacity? Any Internet link out there to support it? I guess it goes something like this:
50 TB 3-5-inch =(÷4.17)=> 12 TB 2.5-inch =(÷12)=> 1 TB 1-inch drive.
What about 1'8-inch and 0.85-inch?
If that is so, the 120 GB 1.8-inch drive means that such technology (perpendicular recording) could be applied to produce a whopping 3TB 3.5-inch drive RIGHT NOW!!! Yet, current 3.5-inch drives are 1TB by Toshiba (now) and Seagate (next week).
Or am I missing something? Thanks.
daschor
Apr 25, 2007, 12:09 PM
I have to say, this is good news in terms of future product development, but I refuse to buy another full-size iPod until Apple gets a clue and makes them bootable again. An iPod without Firewire is inferior to any iPod with it. My 2g 40GB iPod may be nearing capacity, but I am too disappointd with USB to consider a newer model.
What do I want? An iPod of 80GB or larger capacity with native Firewire. So I can carry my mac with me everywhere. Bring back firewire! Especially for larger drives, it is silly to be USB only.
alec
Apr 25, 2007, 12:20 PM
1 ounce 120 GB true video ipod please! With wireless! And FM radio! Oh and for less than 200 dollars! And even then I'll still complain!
jholzner
Apr 25, 2007, 12:28 PM
Yet... (http://blogs.sun.com/tabriz/entry/zfs_boot)
I'm as hopeful as the next guy to get a bootable ZFS but that link shows there has been no updates at all about the progress since mid 2005. :confused:
jholzner
Apr 25, 2007, 12:29 PM
I have to say, this is good news in terms of future product development, but I refuse to buy another full-size iPod until Apple gets a clue and makes them bootable again. An iPod without Firewire is inferior to any iPod with it. My 2g 40GB iPod may be nearing capacity, but I am too disappointd with USB to consider a newer model.
What do I want? An iPod of 80GB or larger capacity with native Firewire. So I can carry my mac with me everywhere. Bring back firewire! Especially for larger drives, it is silly to be USB only.
Sorry to say, looks like you will never own a new iPod.
SMM
Apr 25, 2007, 12:31 PM
How in the heck can Samsung announcing a 120GB drive get a negative rating? Do people just hit the negative button for everything?
Clive At Five
Apr 25, 2007, 12:33 PM
Anyone knows the hard disk form factor vs capacity? Any Internet link out there to support it? I guess it goes something like this:
50 TB 3-5-inch =(÷4.17)=> 12 TB 2.5-inch =(÷12)=> 1 TB 1-inch drive.
What about 1'8-inch and 0.85-inch?
If that is so, the 120 GB 1.8-inch drive means that such technology (perpendicular recording) could be applied to produce a wooping 3TB 3.5-inch drive RIGHT NOW!!! Yet, current 3.5-inch drives are 1TB by Toshiba (now) and Seagate (next week).
Or am I missing something? Thanks.
Er.... I'm getting different results...
d = diameter
A = Area
C = capacity
|- d (in.) -|- A (sq. in.) -|- C (GB) -|- C/A (GB/sq. in.) -|
|- 1.8 ----|- 2.545 -----|- 120 ----|- 47.157 ----------|
|- 3.5 ----|- 9.621 -----|- x ------|- 47.157 ----------|
Solving for x, I'm only getting 453.704 GB.
The main difference is in the number of plates. The 1.8" has two while 3.5" HDs will have 4 or 5, resulting in 907 GB to 1,134 GB.
So as you can see, 3.5" technology and 1.8" technology are on par with each other.
Hope this clarifies things for ya.
-Clive
BornAgainMac
Apr 25, 2007, 12:40 PM
I would like to wirelessly view video and play music from my 120 GB iPod from my iPhone.
Small White Car
Apr 25, 2007, 12:41 PM
Forget the "true video iPod."
When will they release a true music iPod!? :mad:
twoodcc
Apr 25, 2007, 12:52 PM
120GB video iPod would be great! especially if it's widescreen :D
richard.mac
Apr 25, 2007, 01:01 PM
Forget the "true video iPod."
When will they release a true music iPod!? :mad:
apple already does have a "true music ipod"... the nano which can also store photos and audio podcasts. but seriously who puts photos and audio podcasts on their ipod? the nano is the perfect consumer ipod as its storage is around the average size of an itunes music library.
120 GB HD would be perfect for video ipod for now. when low cost high capacity flash drives become available watch out! :eek:
Small White Car
Apr 25, 2007, 01:19 PM
apple already does have a "true music ipod"... the nano
No, no. You misunderstood.
The current iPod plays video but it's not a "true video iPod" because it's not magic and doesn't smell like french fries. THAT would be a true video iPod!
Lots of people want this "magic iPod." In fact I've seen several posts in this very thread ask for it.
I'm simply saying that I would like a magic music playing iPod rather than a magic video-playing iPod.
Clearly the Nano (while a great device) is not what I'm looking for.
Cygnus311
Apr 25, 2007, 01:43 PM
I don't understand the people on this site. Either they are stupid or just selfish, or I don't understand the positive/negative thing. People always marking improvements as negatives. How dare they increase HD space!!! :confused:
WhiteShadow
Apr 25, 2007, 01:43 PM
although the iphone is only 8gb it is the closest to a true video ipod, slame one of these 120gb drive in it, now you are on to something apple.
Lycanthrope
Apr 25, 2007, 01:52 PM
I'd be well up for a 120GB iPod, my MP3 collection is just about that size...
Clive At Five
Apr 25, 2007, 02:03 PM
although the iphone is only 8gb it is the closest to a true video ipod, slame one of these 120gb drive in it, now you are on to something apple.
I can pass on the ~$75/mo with the phone functions, but if it's a unit with WiFi, a browser, and video-iPod capabilities a la iPhone plus a decent HDD (even a 40GB would do), I'd be on board.
I'd assumeApple could strip the phone technology and replace it with a HDD and maintain reasonably close pricing. If I were willing to venture a guess, I'd say:
iPod Pro (described above): 40GB ~ $399; 80GB ~ $499; 120GB ~ $599
iPod (wide/touchscreen only): 40GB ~ $299; 80GB ~ $399
There I go speculating again... Look out, Shaw Wu. I might just steal your "thunder."
-Clive
camomac
Apr 25, 2007, 02:25 PM
120 gb, yep that ought to just about cover it...
Mac-Mariachi
Apr 25, 2007, 02:25 PM
120GB would be very cool. But I still donīt get why did Apple only gave AppleTV a 40GB HD.
Babasyzygy
Apr 25, 2007, 02:27 PM
Does anybody know what happens if you plug a larger capacity drive into an iPod of a smaller capacity? Will it "just work" (after restoring to factory settings, or whatever)?
Shagrat
Apr 25, 2007, 02:29 PM
I'm as hopeful as the next guy to get a bootable ZFS but that link shows there has been no updates at all about the progress since mid 2005. :confused:
Not so?
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/zfsboot-manual/
KingofAwesome
Apr 25, 2007, 02:35 PM
but seriously who puts photos and audio podcasts on their ipod?
What? Regular iPods work great for audio podcasts! I tend to do a lot of late-night driving and I listen to 8+ hours of podcasts per week in my car. Sure, I could do that with a nano if I bought one in addition to my regular iPod, but why would I buy a nano when my video iPod can do it already?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point...
SiliconAddict
Apr 25, 2007, 03:12 PM
Thank God. I'm running out of space on my iPod fast.
psychofreak
Apr 25, 2007, 03:14 PM
But I still donīt get why did Apple only gave AppleTV a 40GB HD.Price I guess :)
Maccus Aurelius
Apr 25, 2007, 03:23 PM
120GB would be very cool. But I still donīt get why did Apple only gave AppleTV a 40GB HD.
Because the on-board HD is not the actual storage, but rather the buffer. There's no need for all that space when the machine would regularly dump stuff you don't use when you want to watch something else.
Digital Skunk
Apr 25, 2007, 04:03 PM
It has been a while since the latest refresh... but I wish they would go with flash based drives.
I wish they would go with flash so the iPod would be faster. I know there is a space hit but the durability and speed would be amazing to say the least. But 120 GB does sound nice. :D
Forget the "true video iPod."
When will they release a true music iPod!? :mad:
That's the 8GB Nano or any other full sized iPod... been that way for about 7 years.:)
120 gb, yep that ought to just about cover it...
If I took my entire library... it would be a nice start. If I take only the songs and videos/TV shows I like... then I would have about 60GB left. Give me Flash based HDD or give me death....
Or regular ones... I don't care. Just glad that no one is talking about that political ethical stock options crap.
No, no. You misunderstood.
The current iPod plays video but it's not a "true video iPod" because it's not magic and doesn't smell like french fries. THAT would be a true video iPod!
Lots of people want this "magic iPod." In fact I've seen several posts in this very thread ask for it.
I'm simply saying that I would like a magic music playing iPod rather than a magic video-playing iPod.
Clearly the Nano (while a great device) is not what I'm looking for.
So WTF are you looking for :confused: .... plenty of devices out there that play music and do it pretty well?
Price I guess :)
Yeah... I will go with price... it already costs too much for what it can (can't) do... I would still get one if my TV didn't suck more than my old Compaq PC.
mikeinternet
Apr 25, 2007, 04:24 PM
the iphone/cingular contract should include a subscription to access everything on the itunes store on the phone. then no one will care about drive space when it will only need to hold your playlists and whatever you can't get on itunes.
phillipjfry
Apr 25, 2007, 10:40 PM
I can live with a 80gig ipod, I just want it to have the interface and bigger screen like the iPhone :(
But I doubt we wont hear anything till WWDC, and even then, wont see anything till the end-year holidays....
I'll start rolling the pennies come this June. Too much stuff I want to buy :)
Evangelion
Apr 26, 2007, 04:34 AM
I can't imagine ever needing that much capacity...but it makes the question of having your entire collection available almost meaningless. I mean, how many folks have an iTunes library over 120 GB?
I used to think like that... But now my 6GB iPod Mini has maybe 200 megs of free space, and the only thing in there is music and podcasts. When I move to a full-sized iPod, I'm going to video as well, and that means that my HD-consumption is going to go WAY up.
Evangelion
Apr 26, 2007, 04:35 AM
I have to say, this is good news in terms of future product development, but I refuse to buy another full-size iPod until Apple gets a clue and makes them bootable again. An iPod without Firewire is inferior to any iPod with it. My 2g 40GB iPod may be nearing capacity, but I am too disappointd with USB to consider a newer model.
Why do you want FireWire? Seriously?
sushi
Apr 26, 2007, 04:37 AM
Why do you want FireWire? Seriously?
Faster syncs come to mind.
Evangelion
Apr 26, 2007, 06:07 AM
Faster syncs come to mind.
Uh-huh. the difference between USB2 and FireWire would be neglible at best. Nowehere near that "I demand FireWire or I will never buy an iPod again!"-hysteria.
sushi
Apr 26, 2007, 06:10 AM
Uh-huh. the difference between USB2 and FireWire would be neglible at best. Nowehere near that "I demand FireWire or I will never buy an iPod again!"-hysteria.
For fun, get yourself an external HD that has USB2 and FW.
Then load about 80GBs of information using USB2. Then do it via FW.
Now tell me they are the same speed.
emotion
Apr 26, 2007, 06:11 AM
Faster syncs come to mind.
The difference is negligible. I've done some timings using my Lacie and WD external drives which both have dual interfaces. Your looking at maybe a 1% difference.
The big difference for firewire is sustained transfers and streaming (multi track audio, huge multi GB files). Not something that's desparately needed for an iPod.
edit: USB is much better at being hot-plugged too.
edit2: 15GB of music files. 1:45 for firewire400, 1:48 for USB2.
sushi
Apr 26, 2007, 06:14 AM
How in the heck can Samsung announcing a 120GB drive get a negative rating? Do people just hit the negative button for everything?
I guess some people look at the world as a glass half full. ;)
But I must admit, I am amazed at how many threads have negative votes. It looks like some folks don't like change or improvements.
Evangelion
Apr 26, 2007, 06:20 AM
For fun, get yourself an external HD that has USB2 and FW.
Then load about 80GBs of information using USB2. Then do it via FW.
Now tell me they are the same speed.
There might be a difference if you are comparing hi-speed external hard-drives. But here's a hint: HD in the iPod is not a hi-speed HD. It's a slow HD in order to maximize battery-life. USB2 has more than enough bandwidth to feed that HD. Even if the connection might be a bottleneck on proper hi-speed external HD's, it is NOT an issue with the iPod. FireWire made sense when USB2 was not widely available. If you want to do proper comparison, at least compare similar things. iPod and external HD are NOT similar.
So why do you want FireWire again?
Maccus Aurelius
Apr 26, 2007, 02:24 PM
On top of the reasons already mentioned...having USB support only makes lots more sense, since the majority of computers out there are simply not equipped with Firewire, and most users will not care for that extra cable in the box.
Cult Follower
Apr 26, 2007, 11:04 PM
I think they should have both flash and HDD models, this would make a sweet ipod.:)
Plymouthbreezer
Apr 26, 2007, 11:07 PM
Full sized flash based will be here soon enough in the future. For now, what's so bad about 120GB 1.8 inchers!?1 :confused: :cool:
YourFace
May 16, 2007, 11:38 PM
I am here to tell you that I NEED 120GB for music alone! I have a 60GB iPod with nothing but music on there and it's constantly full. I probably have another 100GB of music (especially tons of live concerts and podcasts) that I cannot fit on my iPod. I'd also like to mention that many people probably would like to use more lossless encoding of their music rather than default 128kbps AAC and that requires FAR more storage. So even without videos or photos or anything else, 120GB still may be NOT ENOUGH space for one's entire music collection. In any case, it's a step in the right direction. Apple is taking WAY to long to update the full-sized iPod and they're falling behind their competitors. The current iPod design is what 3 years old now?!?
And as people have mentioned, video takes up MUCH more space and HD video will require significantly MORE space than current generation video files for iPods. So if anything, Apple should be increasing their iPod capacity as fast as possible. I could easily see using 500GB of space on an iPod if it were available to use. At that point, I would actually try to put photos and video on it. Did I mention that the digital photos I've taken since 2001 are about 120GB themselves now?
All that being said, I think that sadly they will wait until the iPhone has been out for several months before introducing the touch screen iPod HD. So my guess is maybe September. I'm really annoyed at having to wait and wait and wait though.
fairnymph
May 16, 2007, 11:58 PM
Am I the only person who has no interest in VIDEO on ipod?
If I want to watch video, I want to see it on a nice big screen. In HDTV. Or in theatres.
zioxide
May 17, 2007, 12:12 AM
Am I the only person who has no interest in VIDEO on ipod?
If I want to watch video, I want to see it on a nice big screen. In HDTV. Or in theatres.
I don't care about it either. The battery doesn't last long enough.
If Apple released a 5 3/4G iPod that was 120GB, I'd definitely buy it. I don't want a iPod that has a full screen touch control like the iPhone. That doesn't seem like an iPod. I love the current iPod interface and I hope they keep it.
fairnymph
May 17, 2007, 12:22 AM
I love the current iPod interface and I hope they keep it.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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