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xsedrinam
May 4, 2007, 08:03 PM
Paris Hilton was sentenced today to serve 45 days in jail (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/04/paris.hilton.ap/index.html). Too harsh?

"As a city prosecutor said during closing arguments that Hilton deserved jail time, Hilton's mother, Kathy, laughed. When the judge ruled, Kathy Hilton then blurted out: "May I have your autograph?"

mattscott306
May 4, 2007, 08:03 PM
thank god, to bad it's likely a plush prison. (as plush as they get)

flopticalcube
May 4, 2007, 08:09 PM
I guess they will have to let her out in 45 days. Oh well, every silver lining has its cloud.

furious
May 4, 2007, 08:12 PM
On Australian NEWS programs it was said they are going to be making an example out of her.

So hopefully it reduces this behaviour among her fans. I do here they share a single brains cell so it could have the opposite effect. :p

juanster
May 4, 2007, 08:17 PM
can ta say i did not see that coming
how come my forum spy isn't working...

xsedrinam
May 4, 2007, 08:18 PM
On Australian NEWS programs it was said they are going to be making an example out of her.

So hopefully it reduces this behaviour among her fans. I do here they share a single brains cell so it could have the opposite effect. :p
Her comment before the judge may well prove your point.

"I'm very sorry, and from now on I'm going to pay complete attention to everything. I'm sorry, and I did not do it on purpose at all." :D

CorvusCamenarum
May 5, 2007, 05:17 AM
Maybe she'll learn something this time.


Probably not.

Abstract
May 5, 2007, 05:43 AM
"I'm very sorry, and from now on I'm going to pay complete attention to everything. I'm sorry, and I did not do it on purpose at all,"

(cont'd.....)


"I accidentally grabbed my car keys before leaving the house, accidentally sat in the drivers seat of my car, accidentally put the keys into the ignition, and have been driving around in my car since my last police stop on January 15th......also accidentally. In fact, my entire birth and conception was a big accident. To reward you all and end all of your suffering, I will do you all a favour and kill myself, never to be heard from again."


Ok ok, I made that last part up. That was from a fantasy I had.

paddy
May 5, 2007, 09:37 AM
To reward you all and end all of your suffering, I will do you all a favour and kill myself, never to be heard from again."

I was gonna say that that was a bit harsh but its just what we're all thinking! :p

MacNut
May 5, 2007, 11:28 AM
Would hate to be her in prison, little rich girl in with a bunch of big women for 45 days.:eek: :p

Turkish
May 5, 2007, 11:31 AM
Too harsh?

Absolutley not.

And after hearing what her mother said during the hearing ("this is pathetic"),
I'm done with the Hilton brand. No more Hampton Inns, no more Double Tree Inns, no more Hilton hotels.

I'm done with financing this "it's all about me" family's addiction to Bentley's and A-list parties. I don't begrudge anyone their riches, but to give these people money? Nah.

zioxide
May 5, 2007, 11:35 AM
Would hate to be her in prison, little rich girl in with a bunch of big women for 45 days.:eek: :p

That's hot


lol

johnee
May 5, 2007, 11:36 AM
well, this will be a new dose of "reality" for her.

I'm sure she'll parlay this into more money/fame though, hey, all the cool famous people are going to jail these days!

Personally, I'm glad. I hope more people get thrown in jail for doing stupid sh**, thinking they are untouchable.

Next, Lindsey Lohan, PLEASE!

Nickygoat
May 5, 2007, 02:12 PM
Personally, I'm glad. I hope more people get thrown in jail for doing stupid sh**, thinking they are untouchable.


With GWB still free? Not likely.

With any luck it will temper her style a bit.

More likely is it will afford a whole new round of publicity. How long before she releases a "prison" video.

The horror.

mcarnes
May 5, 2007, 10:51 PM
Hey Paris, DO bend over for the soap. :eek: :p

Counterfit
May 5, 2007, 11:06 PM
Hey Paris, DO bend over for the soap. :eek: :p

I wouldn't go near that with a 10-foot thick condom.

SMM
May 5, 2007, 11:13 PM
Sorry for being dense, but I never watch news of this sort. What did she do?

mcarnes
May 5, 2007, 11:14 PM
I wouldn't go near that with a 10-foot thick condom.

True, but a 450 pound woman with a home made strap-on might.

Seriously though, she'll probably get her own cell and shower because she's one of those high risk inmates that others might beat up.

Stella
May 6, 2007, 12:33 AM
If a commoner committed her crimes, they wouldn't get second chances. Neither should famous people - but they do. I hope her appeal fails. If a commoner would be jailed for this, then so should Hilton.

This is a good outcome, she's taken the piss for too long. Hilton doesn't know what reality is, and she'll get a taste of it.

And no, its not too harsh, its deserved. How many warnings does she want? She turned up to sentencing 10 minutes late too.

mrkramer
May 6, 2007, 12:46 AM
And why does anyone care?

Counterfit
May 6, 2007, 03:29 AM
I think it's awesome that's she's going to prison. She's needs to wake up to the real world, where there are laws that must be followed, where you can't just say "Oops, I messed up. I promise I'll never ever ever do it again" and then continue to do whatever illegal thing you were doing. I think most of what I think about her can be summed up here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_Spoiled_Whore_Video_Playset).



Also, sign my petition (http://www.petitiononline.com/goawayph/).

furious
May 6, 2007, 03:57 AM
I wouldn't go near that with a 10-foot thick condom.

QFTT

Abstract
May 6, 2007, 04:06 AM
Hey Paris, DO bend over for the soap. :eek: :p

What would she be afraid of? Are strap-ons allowed in prison?

Mac-Addict
May 6, 2007, 04:40 AM
What would she be afraid of? Are strap-ons allowed in prison?

Probably not but in prision people improvise... TV remote with a bit of string...

mashinhead
May 6, 2007, 09:53 AM
thank god most young celebs are nothing more than reckless brats. Good on them to throw her in jail. finally she might actually learn something. I have no sympathy for her.

Thomas Veil
May 6, 2007, 07:37 PM
I find it kind of funny that someone from the Hilton family is going to the Gray Bar Hotel.

There's a "Legally Blonde"-type movie in this somewhere, with Paris becoming dismayed to find there's no valet parking, no room service, no king-size bed, no concierge, no pool, and worst of all, no bar!!

Might even make a good series for MTV.

Stella
May 7, 2007, 12:42 AM
And why does anyone care?

Because she's a stupid slapper tart who thinks she's above the law.

yg17
May 7, 2007, 12:46 AM
too bad she's going to a minimum security resort instead of a federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.




Then again, she'd probably enjoy a pound-me-in-the-ass prison.

Father Jack
May 7, 2007, 12:47 AM
Nice to see she is not above the law. :)

FJ

synth3tik
May 7, 2007, 12:47 AM
Because she's a stupid slapper tart who thinks she's above the law.


thats not really a reason on why you care. Thats why shes in trouble.

yg17
May 7, 2007, 12:50 AM
thats not really a reason on why you care. Thats why shes in trouble.

Oh, please, you don't really believe that, do you? If that were you, me or any other average joe in that sort of legal hot water, we would've been locked up a long time ago for a lot longer. In a day where celebs like OJ and Robert Blake can get away with murder, and Jacko can get away with wanking off some kids, it's refreshing to see a celeb end up in jail, even if it is a min. security resort and only for 45 days.

Stella
May 7, 2007, 01:02 AM
Oh, please, you don't really believe that, do you? If that were you, me or any other average joe in that sort of legal hot water, we would've been locked up a long time ago for a lot longer. In a day where celebs like OJ and Robert Blake can get away with murder, and Jacko can get away with wanking off some kids, it's refreshing to see a celeb end up in jail, even if it is a min. security resort and only for 45 days.

QFT

@synth3tik - that is EXACTLY why I care.

The rich and famous get treated differently. They take the piss.

I.e., Snoop Doggy

If he ( sorry, *it* ), if it was a common human being, it would have been thrown in jail long ago. Why is it still free?

Good to see that it was refused a visa to the UK and Australia: If you are a criminal, you are refused entry.

All too often the rich and famous get treated as if they are above the law, with multiple chances, and even then they are given leniency. Throw them in jail - give them the taste of reality ; they aren't above the law. Give them an Ass pounding!!

wmmk
May 7, 2007, 04:16 PM
If a commoner committed her crimes, they wouldn't get second chances. Neither should famous people - but they do. I hope her appeal fails. If a commoner would be jailed for this, then so should Hilton.

This is a good outcome, she's taken the piss for too long. Hilton doesn't know what reality is, and she'll get a taste of it.

And no, its not too harsh, its deserved. How many warnings does she want? She turned up to sentencing 10 minutes late too.

Hey, justice is just a game. Call me a cynic, but the wealthy usually really do end up above the law in this country.

Money is honestly the world's curse (and no, I'm not a socialist).

Stella
May 7, 2007, 11:56 PM
Hey, justice is just a game. Call me a cynic, but the wealthy usually really do end up above the law in this country.

Money is honestly the world's curse (and no, I'm not a socialist).

Unfortunately, you are very correct!

Father Jack
May 8, 2007, 12:01 AM
Oh, please, you don't really believe that, do you? If that were you, me or any other average joe in that sort of legal hot water, we would've been locked up a long time ago for a lot longer. In a day where celebs like OJ and Robert Blake can get away with murder, and Jacko can get away with wanking off some kids, it's refreshing to see a celeb end up in jail, even if it is a min. security resort and only for 45 days.
Perhaps she will end up with a big hairy arsed boyfriend :eek:

camomac
May 8, 2007, 05:08 PM
aside from WHO it is, doesn't anybody think that for a
normal person 45 days in jail would pretty much ruin them.
they would lose their job and possibly their place to live.
from what i've seen on TV the normal amount of jail time
for this type of crime is 5 to 10 days in jail.

just because it is paris, doesn't mean it can't happen to anybody.

i think that we as a community should be very nervous
when this sort of thing starts to happen to anyone.

Dale Sorel
May 8, 2007, 06:16 PM
Perhaps she will end up with a big hairy arsed boyfriend :eek:

I hope they haave a video camera handy ;)

yg17
May 8, 2007, 06:22 PM
aside from WHO it is, doesn't anybody think that for a
normal person 45 days in jail would pretty much ruin them.
they would lose their job and possibly their place to live.
from what i've seen on TV the normal amount of jail time
for this type of crime is 5 to 10 days in jail.

just because it is paris, doesn't mean it can't happen to anybody.

i think that we as a community should be very nervous
when this sort of thing starts to happen to anyone.

I believe the charges were driving while intoxicated, wreckless driving, driving while on a suspended license, wreckless driving again, violation of probation. For most people who commit that act, their sentence would be measured in years.

iMeowbot
May 8, 2007, 07:09 PM
wreckless driving
Don't they actually encourage that in most jurisdictions?

madoka
May 8, 2007, 10:49 PM
I find it pathetic her attempts to stay out of jail by appealing to the governor. She really does believe she is above the law. If anything, she should have gotten more jail time. She blatantly used her publicist as a excuse by having him lie about telling her it was okay to drive. She made a show of it by firing him and then immediately rehiring him after the trial. It doesn't take a genius to realize her sham. I hear there is a petition to keep her out of jail. Someone should start one to make sure she goes. Hopefully it will knock some sense into her "stupid spoiled whore" lifestyle. Unfortunately, whereas any normal person's life could be ruined from a prison sentence, she'll probably get even more rich and famous from it.

jamesmcd
May 8, 2007, 11:15 PM
I think she should be forced to work as a sex worker in one of the various slums in Asia.

Or perhaps someone could just car-bomb her jail for us.

God damn I hate brain-dead, can't count to 3, inherit all of daddy's money, above the law, 'town-bicycle' type of people... (the list could go on...)

Father Jack
May 8, 2007, 11:41 PM
I hope they haave a video camera handy ;)
I must keep an eye on YouTube, you never know ;)

FJ

madoka
May 9, 2007, 02:06 AM
The Jail Paris Hilton petition is still leading the Free Paris Hilton petition:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/jailparishilton/

:D

Nym
May 9, 2007, 04:35 AM
You guys make me laugh! Is there actually a petition to throw Paris Hilton in jail? If "YES" then WHERE CAN I SIGN?! :D

Sdashiki
May 9, 2007, 07:34 AM
You guys make me laugh! Is there actually a petition to throw Paris Hilton in jail? If "YES" then WHERE CAN I SIGN?! :D

Um, she is already going to jail, what does this petition even stand for?

juanster
May 9, 2007, 11:50 AM
even thought i think she deserves to go to jail, this will only make her soooooooo much more famous and soooooo much richer i don't know if I want her to go anymore...maybe if it was a real american jail, but she is going to a security resort..

madoka
May 9, 2007, 01:06 PM
Um, she is already going to jail, what does this petition even stand for?

There is a petition created by Paris's people to urge Arnold to give her a governor's pardon. This is the counter-protest to make sure that does not happen.

JNB
May 9, 2007, 01:23 PM
Money is honestly the world's curse (and no, I'm not a socialist).

Absolutely! If you believe money is the world's curse, then you can't be. Socialists LOVE money - just somebody else's... ;)

ryannel2003
May 9, 2007, 04:08 PM
Good. She deserves it. She doesn't look good, lives off mommy and daddy, and has to be the stupidest person on the face of the planet. Just because she is a so called "celebrity" doesn't mean she is special.

fall3n
May 9, 2007, 04:40 PM
Would hate to be her in prison, little rich girl in with a bunch of big women for 45 days.:eek: :p

They'll keep her in a prison away from everyone else, just like they did with Martha. This isn't gonna teach Paris anything, she thinks she can get away with anything, she has all her life up until now.

FrankBlack
May 9, 2007, 06:11 PM
I have read that the family lawyers are going to formally ask Governor Ah-nold for a full pardon. He'll look pretty bad if he grants it. It would only be seen by most Americans as the rich and well-connected doing a favor for the rich and well-connected.

Egads, there's just no end to these people, is there?

As others have mentioned already, I don't begrudge anyone because they're wealthy. This is after all, a capitalist nation and that's the way things are. It's this arrogant, "I light my cigars with fifty dollar bills, and I can to anything I want!!" mentality that I have a problem with.

If the pictures on tv are an indicator, this womens' jail does not look very posh. And don't forget, she will be told when to get up, when to go to bed, what to do, when to do it, and she'll eat the same institutional food as everyone else. Think she'll work in the prison laundry? :eek:

mcarnes
May 9, 2007, 11:06 PM
It's this arrogant, "I light my cigars with fifty dollar bills, and I can to anything I want!!" mentality that I have a problem with.

50s! Man, I do it with 20s but not 50s. That's just a waste.

devilot
May 9, 2007, 11:08 PM
...lives off mommy and daddy, and has to be the stupidest person on the face of the planet.Do you have proof of both of those statements? Because I'm fairly certain she modeled/models, has different accessories/clothing lines that make money, and as stupid as people might think she is, I'm willing to bet there are dumber folks out there.

yg17
May 9, 2007, 11:35 PM
Do you have proof of both of those statements? Because I'm fairly certain she modeled/models, has different accessories/clothing lines that make money, and as stupid as people might think she is, I'm willing to bet there are dumber folks out there.

She'd be NOTHING if it wasn't for her parents. Good looks (which she doesn't have, she looks like a horse that's been beaten with the ugly stick) aren't enough to get you to where she is. She doesn't have the looks to be a model and she sure as ***** doesn't have the brains to run a business. She is where she is because of her parents.

MacNut
May 10, 2007, 01:24 AM
Actually her great grandfather.
Conrad Nicholson Hilton, Sr. (December 25, 1887–January 3, 1979) was an American hotelier and founder of the Hilton Hotel chain.gold digging familyHis estate founded the Conrad N. Hilton Humanitarian Prize. He left US$250,000 to each of his surviving siblings and US$10,000 to each of his nieces and nephews. Most of his monetary values went to the Roman Catholic Church and charities. However, Conrad's son Barron contested the will and won in 1988. The net worth of Barron and his descendants then jumped to over US$335 million.

Bern
May 10, 2007, 02:26 AM
So the stupid, spoilt little rich girl is going to gaol?

If her parents didn't have all that money she would never be the person she is today with her clothing range. And as for modelling, come on people get with the program, the only way she into that gig is because Daddy is rich. I mean Paris wasn't just hit with the ugly stick, that girl fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

She showed complete contempt for the law and deserves that 45 days in gaol. I only wish the law here in Australia was as strict.

madoka
May 10, 2007, 02:48 AM
Do you have proof of both of those statements? Because I'm fairly certain she modeled/models, has different accessories/clothing lines that make money, and as stupid as people might think she is, I'm willing to bet there are dumber folks out there.

Although I'm sure there are dumber people out there, with statements like "“What is Wal-Mart? Is it, like, they sell wall stuff?” Paris isn't far off the mark.

glucker
May 10, 2007, 02:52 AM
The Simple Life : Jail Birds XD

so, any1 up for A Night In Paris 2: Eating Out? :P

dornoforpyros
May 10, 2007, 08:13 AM
As much as I'm laughing about this right now, it's gonna suck in 6 months time when she releases the book & movie about her ordeal and is on every talk show/news program.

but for now! hahaha

MrSmith
May 10, 2007, 10:25 AM
If a commoner committed her crimes, they wouldn't get second chances. Neither should famous people - but they do. I hope her appeal fails. If a commoner would be jailed for this, then so should Hilton.
Is this Hilton royal?

Seriously, this is the crux of the matter. As long as no preferential treatment is given (and that includes making her life better than other inmates in gaol) then it's all hunky-dory. If you want to hate her as well then that's fine, too. Actually, I don't know much about her except for the hotels and a home movie she made. But I'd pardon her if I could send Victoria Beckham in her place. :D

mcarnes
May 10, 2007, 11:33 AM
I mean Paris wasn't just hit with the ugly stick, that girl fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.

Agreed. Total dog.

http://famoused.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/paris-hilton-sex-doll.jpg

Bern
May 10, 2007, 04:22 PM
Agreed. Total dog.

Ah I sincerely apologise....

I forgot about the plastic fantastic generation who believe every bleached blonde, photoshopped, four inch thick makeup wearing bimbo actually look like that.

The girl has a funky mouth, lazy eye, stringy hair and her nose is too big, she is not model material, but I guess after some cash injection by Daddy and a lot of nipple exposing in public this girl can do what she wants. :rolleyes:

madoka
May 10, 2007, 06:23 PM
Common guys. I'm sure some of us may feel that Paris a better looking than others. But I'm sure we can all agree that Nicole Richie is FUGLY even after losing all that weight and doing plastic surgery. :D

amd4me
May 10, 2007, 06:25 PM
I loved the quote.
It was decidedly seventh grade.

Sun Baked
May 10, 2007, 06:29 PM
Ah I sincerely apologise....

I forgot about the plastic fantastic generation who believe every bleached blonde, photoshopped, four inch thick makeup wearing bimbo actually look like that.

The girl has a funky mouth, lazy eye, stringy hair and her nose is too big, she is not model material, but I guess after some cash injection by Daddy and a lot of nipple exposing in public this girl can do what she wants. :rolleyes:

Cannot wait for the makeup free mugshots to appear, to see if she really does look like that. :o

The Michael Jackson one was fun.

FrankBlack
May 10, 2007, 06:36 PM
The other sister is better looking. Heck, the mother is better looking.

I think what's most disturbing about this whole thing, is that Paris has such a "following", for lack of a better word, among young women. They think she's the greatest and they want to be just like her. :confused: They know who Paris is, what she wears, where she last partied, who her hair stylist is, and who her boyfriend of the night is (or was. )

Ask any of these followers of Paris who Marie Curie was, or who Dr. Sally Ride is, and you'll probably draw a total blank. What's wrong with this picture?

Cannot wait for the makeup free mugshots to appear, to see if she really does look like that.

Check the smoking gun website for updates.

Wonder how she'll like being de-loused?

xsedrinam
May 10, 2007, 09:06 PM
Cannot wait for the makeup free mugshots to appear, to see if she really does look like that. :o
So far, they're disappointing.

mcarnes
May 10, 2007, 10:29 PM
The girl has a funky mouth, lazy eye, stringy hair and her nose is too big...

So... Can we see a photo of you? :p

MacNut
May 10, 2007, 10:30 PM
They showed the Paris South Park episode tonight, classic.:p

FrankBlack
May 11, 2007, 05:55 PM
I just read this report (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070511/ap_en_ce/paris_hilton), that states that Ms. Hilton may not serve the full 45 days. It isn't mommy and daddy using their money, but rather over-crowding in the LA county jails, and quirks in california law, concerning over-crowding.

yg17
May 11, 2007, 07:28 PM
Agreed. Total dog.

http://famoused.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/paris-hilton-sex-doll.jpg

airbrush ftw

MacNut
May 11, 2007, 10:16 PM
I just read this report (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070511/ap_en_ce/paris_hilton), that states that Ms. Hilton may not serve the full 45 days. It isn't mommy and daddy using their money, but rather over-crowding in the LA county jails, and quirks in california law, concerning over-crowding.I don't think people would mind letting a murderer out of jail to make room for Paris.:p

xsedrinam
May 11, 2007, 11:02 PM
Claiming that she "enlivens mundane lives", Paris Hilton is backing the online petition for her pardon (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6637855.stm?lsf).

"The petition to California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger also claims she was being used as a scapegoat to highlight the dangers of drink-driving."

Ms Hilton 'provides hope for young people', the petition says.

FrankBlack
May 12, 2007, 02:31 PM
I don't think people would mind letting a murderer out of jail to make room for Paris.:p

Heh, heh. Good point.

Anyone know if she was ordered to surrender her passport?

How exactly, does she provide hope for young people?

NATO
May 12, 2007, 03:05 PM
I'm definitely feeling a bit of schadenfreude right now :)

Counterfit
May 12, 2007, 03:31 PM
Claiming that she "enlivens mundane lives", Paris Hilton is backing the online petition for her pardon (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6637855.stm?lsf).

"The petition to California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger also claims she was being used as a scapegoat to highlight the dangers of drink-driving."

Ms Hilton 'provides hope for young people', the petition says.

Damn, why didn't Mel Gibson think of the scapegoat line?

Also, I agree with the petition. Paris Hilton gives me hope.





Hope that I'm right when I say people suck.

Kashchei
May 12, 2007, 03:42 PM
Sorry for being dense, but I never watch news of this sort. What did she do?

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who is blissfully unaware of the Paris Hilton saga. I make a point to avoid this type of "news" that the MSM tries to shove down our throats these days. I'm completely disinterested in what Paris Hilton does or whether she goes to jail. IMHO it is a sign of the apocalypse that so many are more interested in this bimbo than they are in the attacks on the constitution perpetrated by certain politicians.

Cybergypsy
May 12, 2007, 05:29 PM
who cares whaT she looks like, she is famous for Nothing....and I would not call her ugly....but just OK.

FrankBlack
May 13, 2007, 02:01 PM
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who is blissfully unaware of the Paris Hilton saga. I make a point to avoid this type of "news" that the MSM tries to shove down our throats these days. I'm completely disinterested in what Paris Hilton does or whether she goes to jail. IMHO it is a sign of the apocalypse that so many are more interested in this bimbo than they are in the attacks on the constitution perpetrated by certain politicians.

Best post in the thread.

Call me a conspiracy nut, but what if this entire tale, and other of its type, are made up, just to draw citizens' attention away from more serious matters, such as the economy and the Iraq war? Of course, that simply couldn't be, could it? :eek:

xsedrinam
May 17, 2007, 04:42 PM
Furthermore, she's not appealing (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/17/paris.hilton.ap/index.html). So June 5 is jail time for Paris, though the sentence may be for only 23 days due to crowded conditions and good behavior benefits, before the fact.

CorvusCamenarum
May 17, 2007, 05:14 PM
Furthermore, she's not appealing (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/17/paris.hilton.ap/index.html). So June 5 is jail time for Paris, though the sentence may be for only 23 days due to crowded conditions and good behavior benefits, before the fact.

And in the cushy celebrity wing too. Heaven forbid she should have to rub shoulders with the other criminals.

Poor wikkle woman :rolleyes:

Apple Hobo
May 17, 2007, 06:27 PM
Call me a conspiracy nut, but what if this entire tale, and other of its type, are made up, just to draw citizens' attention away from more serious matters, such as the economy and the Iraq war? Of course, that simply couldn't be, could it? :eek:


Paris' minions probably can't spell the word "economy," let alone find Iraq on a map. No conspiracy. ;)

rdowns
May 17, 2007, 06:46 PM
How exactly, does she provide hope for young people?

The only thing I can think of is that they can watch her sex tape and learn how not to suc* * ****. :eek:

MrSmith
May 18, 2007, 12:44 AM
http://chavscum.co.uk/4images/data/media/54/Proud_mum_to_be.jpg

iBlue
May 18, 2007, 01:18 AM
What sort of bothers me about her sentence being reduced is that it's based on "good behaviour" - because she's shown up on time and kept quiet in court. I mean really? :rolleyes: REALLY?! Don't you love it when people get rewarded for doing what they're supposed to be doing in the first place? She'll do her time in her quiet, private, secluded cell and be just fine, with even more media attention than she started with. No one need pity Paris.
I'm not sure why I care actually but there it is, my own bit of schadenfreude. :o

Counterfit
May 18, 2007, 02:24 AM
iBlue, why is the woman in your avatar licking a trumpet? :confused:

MrSmith
May 18, 2007, 02:24 AM
Cue horn joke :D

iBlue
May 18, 2007, 02:41 AM
iBlue, why is the woman in your avatar licking a trumpet? :confused:
not to take us too far off the very important topic but... because of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlgaQ13Serk) (not the best quaility but you'll get the idea)

edit: just changed it, but for reference:

Counterfit
May 18, 2007, 03:17 PM
That is the best music video ever!

mcarnes
May 18, 2007, 04:59 PM
http://chavscum.co.uk/4images/data/media/54/Proud_mum_to_be.jpg

I hope this woman is not pregnant and smoking. :mad:

CorvusCamenarum
May 18, 2007, 05:27 PM
I hope this woman is not pregnant and smoking. :mad:

I've seen that photo before. She is indeed.

MrSmith
Jun 6, 2007, 12:26 AM
Justin Long has his say :D

Check out 'Paris Hilton Gets No Respect From Fellow Celebs' on the Yahoo (http://www.yahoo.com/) Featured videos. Sorry, not sure how to get the specific URL. Just click on the main video link to get to the others.

RedTomato
Jun 6, 2007, 03:13 AM
I agree with everyone who says she is a spoilt bitch and deserves her jail time.

However, I have heard that she is indeed a hard worker with a strong work ethic - she does a lot of jobs and is far more intelligent than she seems - she puts on a dumb persona for the cameras because she knows it's what her fame is based on.

I can't remember the figures, but I saw a report that said she earns several millions a year from her media work and pays her own way every year.

Ah well. It's easy to make more money when you're already rich, and also have the right contacts to get good advisors.

xsedrinam
Jun 7, 2007, 08:47 AM
Well, after 3 days, she's up and out of jail (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/07/paris.hilton/index.html). Released this morning.

longofest
Jun 7, 2007, 09:40 AM
I can't believe that... she whines about the food and she goes practically free? I mean, she is on home arrest, but I'm sure her home isn't the same as my 2 bedroom condo either.

Everyone, you now have your get out of jail free ticket. Go on a hunger strike and protest against the food!

yg17
Jun 7, 2007, 09:45 AM
I'm sick and tired of celebs getting special treatment. If that would've been you or me, we'd be serving the entire sentence.

wyatt23
Jun 7, 2007, 09:56 AM
Call me a conspiracy nut, but what if this entire tale, and other of its type, are made up, just to draw citizens' attention away from more serious matters, such as the economy and the Iraq war? Of course, that simply couldn't be, could it? :eek:

don't think for a second that they needed a conspiracy to distract them. a gnat or two would have done the trick.

MrSmith
Jun 7, 2007, 10:04 AM
When she was sentenced May 4, Superior Court Judge Michael T. Sauer ruled that she would not be allowed any work release, furloughs or use of an alternative jail or electronic monitoring in lieu of jail.
Oh, God bless America! Land of the free.

RedTomato
Jun 7, 2007, 10:43 AM
Oh piss off!

Bloody hell bloody hell, so she can just swan out cos she doesn't like the food! House arrest? when that house is a megabuck bedroom luxury pad?

Prisoners in the UK with special diets/ beliefs struggled for YEARS to get veggie / vegan food and accepted serving their sentences eating rubbish but veggie food.

MrSmith
Jun 7, 2007, 10:52 AM
And her new licence is probably in the post...

Seriously, has there ever been a Hollywood and/or rich celebrity banged up since even before Fatty Arbuckle?

holamiamigos
Jun 7, 2007, 11:01 AM
.....not!

Motley
Jun 7, 2007, 11:06 AM
Oh piss off!

Bloody hell bloody hell, so she can just swan out cos she doesn't like the food! House arrest? when that house is a megabuck bedroom luxury pad?


I hate celebrities :mad:

RedTomato
Jun 7, 2007, 11:08 AM
Seriously, has there ever been a Hollywood and/or rich celebrity banged up since even before Fatty Arbuckle?

Apart from Martha Stewart?

I thought Pee Wee Herman and Sean Penn both served time, but no, WP says only arrests.

In the UK, we do things the other way around - one of our biggest soap stars, Leslie Grantham (aka Dirty Den in Eastenders) is a *convicted murderer* and duly served his sentence (10 years). He became hooked on acting while doing a prison play.

MrSmith
Jun 7, 2007, 11:14 AM
In the UK, we do things the other way around - one of our biggest soap stars, Leslie Grantham (aka Dirty Den in Eastenders) is a *convicted murderer* and duly served his sentence (10 years). He became hooked on acting while doing a prison play.
Grantham served time before becoming famous. Would it have worked the other way round, though?

But more to the point, he should have been arrested because of his acting.

tveric
Jun 7, 2007, 11:54 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/07/paris.hilton/index.html

And it's about time, too! Hasn't this poor girl endured enough suffering in her lifetime already? It's obvious the only reason she was sentenced jail for this minor offense was the celebrity that was forced upon her by her public! Really, all the poor girl wants to do is sit at home and be left alone. Hooray for the American justice system! It's PERFECT!

Mudbug
Jun 7, 2007, 11:59 AM
So I guess the deal is to say you won't eat prison food (probably not too hard to pass up) and you get to go home early. Neat trick. I'm writing that one down in case one day "the man" picks me up for something stupid I did.

why is this woman famous again?

atiffarooq
Jun 7, 2007, 12:00 PM
I second your opinion. How can this law abiding citizen be sent to jail? I mean she's never done anything wrong in her life, apart from make a video that I errr ... heard of :p

swiftaw
Jun 7, 2007, 12:02 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/07/paris.hilton/index.html

And it's about time, too! Hasn't this poor girl endured enough suffering in her lifetime already? It's obvious the only reason she was sentenced jail for this minor offense was the celebrity that was forced upon her by her public! Really, all the poor girl wants to do is sit at home and be left alone. Hooray for the American justice system! It's PERFECT!

I really hope this is sarcasm

cycocelica
Jun 7, 2007, 01:00 PM
Honestly why didn't she kill herself while she was drunk driving?

shecky
Jun 7, 2007, 01:15 PM
http://parisfacial.ytmnd.com/

in a land of NASCAR, American Idol, Larry the Cable Guy, The Real World and The Girls Next Door is it really any surprise she got out?

joepunk
Jun 7, 2007, 01:32 PM
Anyone know what the actual sentence lenth for a crime of driving w/a suspended license after getting 3yrs probation on drunk driving?

TheAnswer
Jun 7, 2007, 01:40 PM
why is this woman famous again?

Hmm...it's the potent combo of lackluster modeling skills, poor oral technique, limited vocabulary, and the inability to dress herself. She's a quadruple threat.

someguy
Jun 7, 2007, 02:01 PM
Hmm...it's the potent combo of lackluster modeling skills, poor oral technique, limited vocabulary, and the inability to dress herself. She's a quadruple threat.
The videos I've seen suggest otherwise.

TheAnswer
Jun 7, 2007, 02:10 PM
The videos I've seen suggest otherwise.

Trust me...she's got a lot to learn. On the positive side, maybe she can spend some of her home confinement time watching some gay porn to see how it's really done.

someguy
Jun 7, 2007, 02:12 PM
Trust me...she's got a lot to learn.

Maybe she was just nervous.

yg17
Jun 7, 2007, 03:00 PM
Apart from Martha Stewart?

I thought Pee Wee Herman and Sean Penn both served time, but no, WP says only arrests.

In the UK, we do things the other way around - one of our biggest soap stars, Leslie Grantham (aka Dirty Den in Eastenders) is a *convicted murderer* and duly served his sentence (10 years). He became hooked on acting while doing a prison play.


Only 10 years for murder?

Queso
Jun 7, 2007, 03:09 PM
Only 10 years for murder?
He was in the Army and stationed in Germany at the time, and although it was a German he killed he served his time back in Britain. It was a life sentence, but for some reason after 10 years he got a part in Doctor Who and the rest is history.

Resurrection of the Daleks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrection_of_the_Daleks)

Stella
Jun 7, 2007, 03:11 PM
The criminal Hilton has been let out of Jail for 'health reasons' and back in her cosy home - some sentence.. after just 3 days.

If it was a commoner, they'd serve their term in the slammer.

Once again, unfortunately, another example that the Rich and Famous have a separate law from the rest of us.


No doubt she'll go to parties etc and break her conditions of house arrest... and plead being a 'blonde' and get off scott free :-\

RedTomato
Jun 7, 2007, 04:48 PM
http://parisfacial.ytmnd.com/

That's awesome. I can feel my brains oozing out and a rage building in my breast as I stare at her unchanging self-satisfied superior smirking face.

someguy
Jun 7, 2007, 05:22 PM
http://parisfacial.ytmnd.com/
In all fairness, you could probably do that with a collection of images of almost anyone.

...and I totally thought that link was something else. :D

Counterfit
Jun 7, 2007, 09:59 PM
Yeah, I noticed that she has the same ugly expression in every picture. Apparently coming up with new ones takes too much brain power that's better spent coming up with new ways to get money for doing nothing. *cough*Zoolander*cough*

Anyways, I think every prisoner in CA should stage a hunger strike, let's see what happens then.

JNB
Jun 7, 2007, 11:05 PM
All I can say is that I hope the little tramp gets nabbed for something in Maricopa County...

D0ct0rteeth
Jun 7, 2007, 11:38 PM
All I can say is that I hope the little tramp gets nabbed for something in Maricopa County...

Tent city, biatch.

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/stories/KTVKLNews20070514_paris_hilton_tent-city.6cfb5591.html

xsedrinam
Jun 8, 2007, 01:30 PM
So, now what? Is it back to jail (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/06/08/paris.hilton.ap/index.html), again, for her? :confused:

• NEW: Paris Hilton picked up at house for court date
• Hilton under house arrest, is wearing ankle bracelet
• "Medical considerations" led to new arrangement
• Hilton served five days in jail for violating probation



LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Paris Hilton was ordered to appear in court Friday instead of calling in from home, yet another reversal in her twisted path toward serving time on a probation violation.

Turkish
Jun 8, 2007, 01:34 PM
*laughs and falls on floor*

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2007/06/0608_paris_car_cry_inf.jpg

TheAnswer
Jun 8, 2007, 02:15 PM
The judge just sent her back. Now let's she if she appeals it to a higher court or what if any action the judge takes against the Sheriff for violating his ruling.

RedTomato
Jun 8, 2007, 02:30 PM
*laughs and falls on floor*


I'm not laughing - she seems to be in genuine emotional turmoil, and I don't take pleasure in the sufferings of others.

I still think she should serve her full time in jail.

I suspect the 'medical condition' is coke addiction or something like that.

If it's real and she wants us to sympathize, she should reveal her 'medical condition'. Odd that it never came up in her court case, as usually genuine medical issues can play a part in sentencing.

I know plenty of disabled people, paraplegics, others with serious illnesses etc, and even if (sometimes) they got a reduced sentence as jail would be more painful for them than for a healthy person, all had to do their time anyway.

(btw deaf people often serve twice as long for the same crime as hearing people as a lack of interpreters in the jail system means they can't access parole / good-behaviour schemes)

mactastic
Jun 8, 2007, 02:31 PM
Link'd (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19102663/)
Paris Hilton was taken from a courtroom screaming and crying on Friday after a judge ordered her returned to jail to serve out her entire 45-day sentence for a parole violation in a reckless driving case.

“It’s not right!” shouted the weeping Hilton. “Mom!” she called out to her mother in the audience.

No sympathy from me, that's for sure.

Queso
Jun 8, 2007, 02:41 PM
What a sad end. It just leaves me with the impression that she has been totally indulged her entire life and this might actually be the first time she's been properly punished. Hopefully she'll use this time to have a good hard think about the direction her life has taken and will come out of there a damn sight more responsible as a result.

Stupid, stupid girl. Suck it up and take your punishment Paris, and for once that's not said with one trace of innuendo.

mactastic
Jun 8, 2007, 02:55 PM
Funny quote I heard on the news this morning: "Nothing about Paris Hilton or this case is easy" and I about snorted coffee out my nose.

After the commercial the anchor made the same comment except had replaced "easy" with "simple". I'm guessing that during the break someone told her that certain things about Paris were indeed rumored to be easy.

RedTomato
Jun 8, 2007, 02:56 PM
Bumper collection of newspaper cartoons about Paris and jail.

Worth a look:

http://www.cagle.com/news/ParisInPrison/main.asp

floriflee
Jun 8, 2007, 03:02 PM
The ironic thing is that after this whole mess is over she'll probably get out of it and write a book (or have one penned for her) about her tragic prison experience and make a few more million. :rolleyes:

blitzkrieg79
Jun 8, 2007, 03:26 PM
The ironic thing is that after this whole mess is over she'll probably get out of it and write a book (or have one penned for her) about her tragic prison experience and make a few more million. :rolleyes:

And you are probably right on that one, gotta love America, you can make money out of the most stupid things here. But I don't know what is worse, some publisher offering her money for a book deal or the actual people who will buy this book.

Turkish
Jun 8, 2007, 03:29 PM
I'm not laughing

I am.

Still.

johnee
Jun 8, 2007, 03:30 PM
link (http://us.rd.yahoo.com//mymod/ldpht/sty/*http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&u=/ap/20070608/ap_on_en_tv/paris_hilton_153) to good story about the events in the courtroom

sorry to say, but i'm glad this happened. I was actually concerned she would be let off with home confinement.

maybe all the other brats in hollywood will learn something from this. I hope not cause I got $50 that says lohan is next!

hahaha

zioxide
Jun 8, 2007, 03:30 PM
*laughs and falls on floor*

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.tmz.com/media/2007/06/0608_paris_car_cry_inf.jpg

that picture is ****ing priceless..

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

itcheroni
Jun 8, 2007, 03:34 PM
that picture is ****ing priceless..

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

It's the first sign of emotion I've ever seen from her.

A piece of art. Whoever had the best, close up picture should have it hung in a museum.

floriflee
Jun 8, 2007, 04:03 PM
Paris Hilton will probably spend the weekend in a medical ward at the jail facility where she surrendered Sunday night, referred to as Twin Towers.

We're told the plans will firm up within an hour. Hilton will stay there over the weekend, when her lawyer will file an appeal, called a writ of habeas corpus, which means, essentially, the body is being held illegally.

Can someone with a more legal background than myself explain on what grounds they can argue she's being held illegally? She was convicted, sentenced, and the judge specifically stated no house arrest. How is forcing her to do what the judge stated illegal holding?

aquajet
Jun 8, 2007, 04:11 PM
This whole thing is just weird as hell. I decided to watch Fox News' take on the issue during the hearing. Between Hilton's lawyer in front of a backdrop of Hilton fiends yelling "she's hot!" and Jesus signs, Paris yelling for her mommy and the Fox anchor and his snide remarks, I can't help but think WTF is going on here?? This is the top news story on all the major news channels? Jesus Christ. :eek: :confused:

Stella
Jun 8, 2007, 04:18 PM
Hilton had multiple chances, she drove when on a banned license. Thats taking the piss.

""It's not right!" shouted the weeping Hilton, who violated her probation in a reckless driving case. "Mom!" she called out to her mother in the audience."

Why isn't it right? You broke the law several times... your not above the law.

As for her "health" issues, a normal person wouldn't be sent for home imprisonment, why should she - especially when she has a luxury huge home? Apparently the jail has good facilities for suicidal prisoners.

As for her sentence originally being cut for 'good behaviour'.. erm, I thought you had to be in prison AND have good behaviour. Why was she granted this even before she was in jail?!!!

Queso
Jun 8, 2007, 04:19 PM
As for her "health" issues, a normal person wouldn't be sent for home imprisonment, why should she - especially when she has a luxury huge home?
I did wonder if the "health issue" was caused by her not taking her "medicine" for a few days, if you know what I'm saying.

PlaceofDis
Jun 8, 2007, 04:30 PM
i feel no pity for her.
not eveyone gets off as easy as she did. must be nice.

floriflee
Jun 8, 2007, 04:59 PM
I did wonder if the "health issue" was caused by her not taking her "medicine" for a few days, if you know what I'm saying.

I'm sure that once she gets into the prison groove she'll learn the ropes of finding a dealer inside. :cool:

yg17
Jun 8, 2007, 05:05 PM
it had to be done :D

Vidd
Jun 8, 2007, 05:20 PM
it had to be done :D
Paris Hiltowned?

I'm really glad to hear this. It's overdue.

biturbomunkie
Jun 8, 2007, 05:21 PM
awwww poor gurl...

but she deserves it. i hope her sentence will not be reduced.

Glen Quagmire
Jun 8, 2007, 05:32 PM
Forgive me for my weakness but I actually felt a little sympathy for Paris on seeing the photo of her in the back of the cop car, crying her eyes out. To be fair for a moment, it can't be very nice for her. It would probably have been better for her had she stayed in jail originally (even if only for 23 days). She might get a friend joining her soon (Lindsay Lohan). Imagine the fun they'd have together!

Paris needs to accept what's happened and serve the time she's been given It will make her a better person (hopefully). She did say before she went in that she was determined to do it. So now's her chance. Kudos to the judge for being firm and reversing the strange decision by the sheriff to let Paris out.

I can't see how habeus corpus can work. She's been sentenced in a court of law. She knows the charges that led to her incarceration. She's not exactly in the same situation as Josef K., is she?

Sun Baked
Jun 8, 2007, 05:47 PM
Going cold sober off the drugs and alcohol should be a viable medical reason to be let out of jail. http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12823&d=1081454646

However, the rash from cotton sheets that feel like burlap isn't.

All the more reason, to see her book "Dear diary, it smells and everyone hates me. I miss my puppy."

Hopefully the 45-days does stand up, due to all the games the defense has played.

devilot
Jun 8, 2007, 05:55 PM
I'm not laughing - she seems to be in genuine emotional turmoil, and I don't take pleasure in the sufferings of others.

I still think she should serve her full time in jail.

Forgive me for my weakness but I actually felt a little sympathy for Paris on seeing the photo of her in the back of the cop car, crying her eyes out. To be fair for a moment, it can't be very nice for her.

Paris needs to accept what's happened and serve the time she's been given... Kudos to the judge for being firm and reversing the strange decision by the sheriff to let Paris out.Thank you both for saying that. I whole-heartedly agree.

Yes, she should serve her due sentence. Yes, she should be held accountable for her own actions.

I just fail to see how anyone benefits from the lack of any compassion shown for someone in such obvious distress, no-- terror. I imagine she felt terrified. And I just can't comprehend such open mockery of another human (though not without her mistakes and faults) when hurting like that. Yes, she has lead a privileged life, but that doesn't make her emotions any less valid or less poignant than any of ours.

MrSmith
Jun 8, 2007, 06:46 PM
Thank you both for saying that. I whole-heartedly agree.

Yes, she should serve her due sentence. Yes, she should be held accountable for her own actions.

I just fail to see how anyone benefits from the lack of any compassion shown for someone in such obvious distress, no-- terror. I imagine she felt terrified. And I just can't comprehend such open mockery of another human (though not without her mistakes and faults) when hurting like that. Yes, she has lead a privileged life, but that doesn't make her emotions any less valid or less poignant than any of ours.
Your sentiments prove you human, but I don't think anyone here really wants her to suffer. It's just we're all fed up with the rich getting privileges that the common folk don't. The feelings here are a backlash against a perceived injustice; an injustice that you or I would not benefit from. If she'd just served her time in accordance with the rule of law applicable to everyone then this thread would have been very different.

aquajet
Jun 8, 2007, 06:53 PM
Thank you both for saying that. I whole-heartedly agree.

Yes, she should serve her due sentence. Yes, she should be held accountable for her own actions.

I just fail to see how anyone benefits from the lack of any compassion shown for someone in such obvious distress, no-- terror. I imagine she felt terrified. And I just can't comprehend such open mockery of another human (though not without her mistakes and faults) when hurting like that. Yes, she has lead a privileged life, but that doesn't make her emotions any less valid or less poignant than any of ours.

I agree.

I feel sorry for her, if only because of the sheer freak show-ish nature of the whole situation. Should she do the time? Yes, of course she should. And not in the comfort of a mansion. But the fact that she's been locked in jail, allowed to go home, and then locked in jail again is simply bizarre. The justice system has failed her terribly and it's no wonder why she appears to be on the brink of an emotional meltdown.

PlaceofDis
Jun 8, 2007, 06:55 PM
i certainly don't want her to be in distress. but i do want her to serve out her sentence and realize what a completely lucky person she is to be able to lead the kind of life she does.

Sun Baked
Jun 8, 2007, 07:05 PM
Your sentiments prove you human, but I don't think anyone here really wants her to suffer. It's just we're all fed up with the rich getting privileges that the common folk don't. The feelings here are a backlash against a perceived injustice; an injustice that you or I would not benefit from. If she'd just served her time in accordance with the rule of law applicable to everyone then this thread would have been very different.
I think she should suffer ...

Especially since she got a DUI and couldn't even be bother to think twice about the sentence or the penalties she got from it.

Stella
Jun 8, 2007, 07:16 PM
Your sentiments prove you human, but I don't think anyone here really wants her to suffer. It's just we're all fed up with the rich getting privileges that the common folk don't. The feelings here are a backlash against a perceived injustice; an injustice that you or I would not benefit from. If she'd just served her time in accordance with the rule of law applicable to everyone then this thread would have been very different.

If she just her sentence without turning it into a circus act, I'd have a little respect for her. However, since she's tried to avoid jail and turned her jail term into a farce.... she gets what she deserves.

Jail will do her a world of good - to see that her actions have a negative result. Spoilt stupid brat.

ReanimationLP
Jun 8, 2007, 07:27 PM
Wow, you mean the justice system actually DOES work in California?

I mean, OJ and Robert Blake got away.

Thank god she didnt get through after all.

jsw
Jun 8, 2007, 07:33 PM
I think she should suffer ...

Especially since she got a DUI and couldn't even be bother to think twice about the sentence or the penalties she got from it.
Bingo.

There are a number of reasons I'm pleased as punch she's terrified, and that is at the very top of my list.

My cousin was killed at the age of 15 by a drunk driver. I view them all with contempt. I think they deserve to be vilified. Of course, she wasn't vilified at all and was let off with a slap on the wrists. In fact, given her assets, it was painless. I like Finland's laws where the fine is linked to income, so all are hurt, if not similarly, at least proportionally by fines.

Then she was caught driving on a suspended license twice. There's no excuse for that. She can afford to be driven. It's sheer and utter disregard for the law which cause me to be further disgusted by her.

So, now, as an adult, she's committed DUI, got caught driving on a suspended license, and then got caught again doing it. She deserves some terror, as obviously nothing else has worked. Those juvenile delinquents that get thrown into "Scared Straight" type things are terrified, and no one cares about them.

Let her be terrified. Let her be in emotional pain. She brought in on herself. And she expected to get away with it. Most of the time, people in her situation do get away with it, which makes this especially sweet.

She drove drunk and endangered lives. She then was stopped on a suspended license and still drove, and then got out because she wouldn't eat jail food.

I laugh at her terror. She brought it on herself and had many opportunities to avoid this situation. She's in it purely because she didn't think she could be in it.

And, of course, in a few weeks, life will be fine again. She'll likely not have learned any lesson whatsoever. So I laugh at her pain now, knowing it's temporary and hardly proportional to the pain she could have inflicted had some other driver or pedestrian been in the wrong place that night.

I think it speak volumes that she's so disliked by so many. While it doesn't really matter all that much, I also hold her accountable for having great wealth and doing nothing to help others with it. Of course, there are many for whom I also hold such scorn. But it helps me feel even less bad as I laugh, although I hate that she does not know that I relish this, and I hate that it will not affect her for more than another few weeks, and I hate that she'll somehow profit from this.
I just fail to see how anyone benefits from the lack of any compassion shown for someone in such obvious distress, no-- terror.
Your sentiments prove you human, but I don't think anyone here really wants her to suffer.
I agree.
I feel sorry for her, if only because of the sheer freak show-ish nature of the whole situation.
i certainly don't want her to be in distress.
I am happy you all are so compassionate. I don't have it in my heart to be so, and if she'd killed some child while in the process of getting that DUI, I doubt you'd be all that compassionate either.

Elphaba
Jun 8, 2007, 07:43 PM
Thank you both for saying that. I whole-heartedly agree.

Yes, she should serve her due sentence. Yes, she should be held accountable for her own actions.

I just fail to see how anyone benefits from the lack of any compassion shown for someone in such obvious distress, no-- terror. I imagine she felt terrified. And I just can't comprehend such open mockery of another human (though not without her mistakes and faults) when hurting like that. Yes, she has lead a privileged life, but that doesn't make her emotions any less valid or less poignant than any of ours.

I completely agree with you guys.

This is a girl with feelings and emotions just like the rest of us. Is that so hard to comprehend? It scares me to see people react this way toward her, it's crude and mean and plain immoral.

What exactly do you guys get by putting her down? I don't understand. Since when has it become cool to hate people? It's mind-boggling to say the least...

someguy
Jun 8, 2007, 07:48 PM
Bingo.
I just want to say that, while I agree that driving under the influence is wrong and offenders should be punished severely without exception, that doesn't make it okay to laugh at her terror or misfortune.

I am all for her serving her sentence, but I think instead of laughing and feeling that she's getting what she deserves, we should simply smile and be happy that she is getting the chance to learn that her actions will not go without consequence. Isn't that what most of us learn as children? Do we laugh at small children when they get a "time out"? I certainly hope not.

Now I realize Paris Hilton is no child (otherwise I should be doing time simply for my involving her :p ) but I honestly feel that because the lifestyle she grew up living, she probably never had to learn how to behave and follow the rules (or in this case, laws).

I'm sorry if that sounds stupid. I'm not saying she should be let off the hook because she "didn't know", or that it's right in any way, shape, or form for her to not understand what is obvious to us, but I do think that is what's happening here and I'm glad to see that she has been given the opportunity to learn a lesson, even if it is the hard way.

Elphaba
Jun 8, 2007, 07:52 PM
I am happy you all are so compassionate. I don't have it in my heart to be so, and if she'd killed some child while in the process of getting that DUI, I doubt you'd be all that compassionate either.

Um, I think you missed the point.

I'm not saying she shouldn't serve her time. Yes, she made a mistake and deserves go to jail.

Does this mean she deserves to be trashed and put down the way she has lately? I can't tell you how many times i've seen death-threats or death-related jokes saying she should die, that she should be hanged. This is nothing but hate that people are spewing and it's wrong. Nobody deserves to be treated this way, no matter how rich they are. Maybe you guys were just brought up a different way.. :rolleyes:

MrSmith
Jun 8, 2007, 07:54 PM
...that doesn't make it okay to laugh at her terror or misfortune.
Bingo.

Elphaba
Jun 8, 2007, 07:57 PM
I just want to say that, while I agree that driving under the influence is wrong and offenders should be punished severely without exception, that doesn't make it okay to laugh at her terror or misfortune.

I am all for her serving her sentence, but I think instead of laughing and feeling that she's getting what she deserves, we should simply smile and be happy that she is getting the chance to learn that her actions will not go without consequence. Isn't that what most of us learn as children? Do we laugh at small children when they get a "time out"? I certainly hope not.

Now I realize Paris Hilton is no child (otherwise I should be doing time simply for my involving her :p ) but I honestly feel that because the lifestyle she grew up living, she probably never had to learn how to behave and follow the rules (or in this case, laws).

I'm sorry if that sounds stupid. I'm not saying she should be let off the hook because she "didn't know", or that it's right in any way, shape, or form for her to not understand what is obvious to us, but I do think that is what's happening here and I'm glad to see that she has been given the opportunity to learn a lesson, even if it is the hard way.

Well said.. I'm glad i'm not the only person that feels this way, I was beginning to feel lonely :p I just don't understand why people are so negative, it's depressing.

DeSnousa
Jun 8, 2007, 08:02 PM
Seeing Paris face like that did make me feel some pity, this is a tough penalty for her as her lifestyle is so different from the rest of 'us', so I share some remorse for that fact. However she does deserve the punishment to teach her that what she did was wrong, if not one day she could kill somebody! I just hope when she comes out of jail she learns a thing or two.

aquajet
Jun 8, 2007, 08:06 PM
If she just her sentence without turning it into a circus act...

Let's be honest here. Hilton's representation and her family aren't the only ones trying to turn this into a circus. The justice system is also to blame for their incompetence. I applaud the judge for trying to do the right thing, but this little two-step by the sheriff is inexcusable.

yg17
Jun 8, 2007, 08:06 PM
I just want to say that, while I agree that driving under the influence is wrong and offenders should be punished severely without exception, that doesn't make it okay to laugh at her terror or misfortune.


The terror or misfortune that she brought on to herself? The legal system isn't torturing her, it's punishing her. Any terror that she claims to have is just a facade that she puts on to get sympathy from the public. You act like she's been sent to a supermax prison to be beaten to a bloody pulp by fellow inmates. She's in a minimum security jail where she's kept separate from other inmates. Terror? No, there's no terror, just a ploy to get sympathy.

The only people that are going to see terror and misfortune as a result of this are the innocent people driving down the road when they get hit by her speeding down the wrong side of the street in her Bentley because she didn't learn her lesson this time either.

I laugh at her. She deserves everything she gets. It's refreshing to see a spoiled hollywood brat finally get what they deserve.

yg17
Jun 8, 2007, 08:09 PM
Seeing Paris face like that did make me feel some pity, this is a tough penalty for her as her lifestyle is so different from the rest of 'us', so I share some remorse for that fact.


But, perhaps unbeknownst to her, the laws that apply to her are no different than the laws that apply to the rest of us. Same laws, same punishment. No pity or no remorse from me. She shouldn't get a special punishment because she has a special lifestyle.

Sun Baked
Jun 8, 2007, 08:10 PM
I just want to say that, while I agree that driving under the influence is wrong and offenders should be punished severely without exception, that doesn't make it okay to laugh at her terror or misfortune.

What misfortune, she put herself in this situation through her own actions.

And as for the terror of having to pay for her actions by going to a dirty jail, well I can't help it, I'd laugh if OJ were finally jailed also. :o :o

jsw
Jun 8, 2007, 08:12 PM
Um, I think you missed the point.

I'm not saying she shouldn't serve her time. Yes, she made a mistake and deserves go to jail.
I most emphatically did not miss the point.

I think she needs to be punished. The fines are not punishment - they're meaningless to her. The jail term is not the punishment it would be for others because Paris will suffer no loss of income, will have no related future issues getting employment, and will likely profit from it in the future. She's not going to be rehabilitated... or at least I doubt it. She won't grow up, she won't change, she's just going to sit in jail for three weeks and then move on.

Her only real punishment, in my mind, is the terror. Her reaction to which, to me, was unbecoming of an adult. Regardless, since none of the other punishment will impact her, perhaps the terror will. Actually, as she's partying in three weeks, I doubt she'll much remember it.

One of the things I dislike about the legal system is how punishment, while technically "equal", of course is not. Those who are wealthier aren't as impacted. So in this case? Her terror balances the scales a bit.

Except not. Because most people are terrified to go to jail.

So, I guess, in this case? The public scorn sort of marginally makes it a wee bit fair.

someguy
Jun 8, 2007, 08:16 PM
The terror or misfortune that she brought on to herself? The legal system isn't torturing her, it's punishing her. Any terror that she claims to have is just a facade that she puts on to get sympathy from the public. You act like she's been sent to a supermax prison to be beaten to a bloody pulp by fellow inmates. She's in a minimum security jail where she's kept separate from other inmates. Terror? No, there's no terror, just a ploy to get sympathy.

The only people that are going to see terror and misfortune as a result of this are the innocent people driving down the road when they get hit by her speeding down the wrong side of the street in her Bentley because she didn't learn her lesson this time either.

I laugh at her. She deserves everything she gets. It's refreshing to see a spoiled hollywood brat finally get what they deserve.
That's very wise and mature of you.

Again, I'm not saying by any stretch of the imagination that she does not deserve 150% of the punishment she is receiving for her actions, all I'm saying is that there is no reason to laugh at her.

Think about it. She did something wrong. She's being punished for it. And you... laugh? How f*cked up is that?

I'll repeat what I said before because I feel strongly about it. We should not be laughing at her, but instead be happy for her because she's been given the opportunity to learn from her mistakes, probably for the first time in her life.

I think sometimes we look at celebrities and think they have it made, but don't for a second take for granted the fact that the wealth and sense of immunity you didn't grow up with makes you the kind of person you are today. Because we all grew up having to take responsibility for our actions, we should be thankful we were so lucky as to have the opportunity to learn at a young age to think before we act. Do not take that for granted.

I am happy for her and I hope this experience makes her a better person, even if only a little bit.

What misfortune, she put herself in this situation through her own actions.
Going to jail is not the misfortune I was referring to. See above.

Elphaba
Jun 8, 2007, 08:19 PM
I most emphatically did not miss the point.

I think she needs to be punished. The fines are not punishment - they're meaningless to her. The jail term is not the punishment it would be for others because Paris will suffer no loss of income, will have no related future issues getting employment, and will likely profit from it in the future. She's not going to be rehabilitated... or at least I doubt it. She won't grow up, she won't change, she's just going to sit in jail for three weeks and then move on.

Her only real punishment, in my mind, is the terror. Her reaction to which, to me, was unbecoming of an adult. Regardless, since none of the other punishment will impact her, perhaps the terror will. Actually, as she's partying in three weeks, I doubt she'll much remember it.

One of the things I dislike about the legal system is how punishment, while technically "equal", of course is not. Those who are wealthier aren't as impacted. So in this case? Her terror balances the scales a bit.

Except not. Because most people are terrified to go to jail.

So, I guess, in this case? The public scorn sort of marginally makes it a wee bit fair.

I guess we'll just agree to disagree then. Nothing good can come from hate or terror. Nothing. I guess you're also one of those people who think spanking their child is a good way of teaching them a lesson?

someguy
Jun 8, 2007, 08:21 PM
I guess we'll just agree to disagree then. Nothing good can come from hate or terror. Nothing. I guess you're also one of those people who think spanking their child is a good way of teaching them a lesson?
Unless it's a big child, then the spanking won't hurt as much, so we'll probably just have to sentence it to death or something. ;)

jsw
Jun 8, 2007, 08:36 PM
I guess we'll just agree to disagree then. Nothing good can come from hate or terror. Nothing. I guess you're also one of those people who think spanking their child is a good way of teaching them a lesson?Yes, in fact, when they're very young and need to learn to avoid dangerous things, I do.

Older kids usually respond better to non-physical punishment. Of course, I'd imagine Paris falls more into the toddler area, so this sort of "spanking" might be good for her.

Ethics and common sense should be sufficient motivators for adults. For her, though? Maybe, just maybe, the next time she decide to drive when drunk, she might stop herself because she doesn't want to do this again. In that case? Her terror now is well worth lives potentially saved then.

Elphaba
Jun 8, 2007, 08:50 PM
Yes, in fact, when they're very young and need to learn to avoid dangerous things, I do.

Older kids usually respond better to non-physical punishment. Of course, I'd imagine Paris falls more into the toddler area, so this sort of "spanking" might be good for her.

Ethics and common sense should be sufficient motivators for adults. For her, though? Maybe, just maybe, the next time she decide to drive when drunk, she might stop herself because she doesn't want to do this again. In that case? Her terror now is well worth lives potentially saved then.


You should practice what you preach then. Let common sense and ethics motivate you to let go of the idea that terror is a good way to teach a lesson.

Listen, I just think Paris has been treated unfairly and she deserves to be given a second chance.

Stella
Jun 8, 2007, 09:08 PM
You should practice what you preach then. Let common sense and ethics motivate you to let go of the idea that terror is a good way to teach a lesson.

Listen, I just think Paris has been treated unfairly and she deserves to be given a second chance.

How many chances does she need?

First, she got caught drink and driving

Secondly, she drove on a banned license, and made to sign a form acknowledging her license was banned

Thirdly, she drove AGAIN on a banned license

How many more chances do the rich and famous need? If she was a commoner, she'd be in jail, health problems or not!

She deserves what she gets.

itcheroni
Jun 8, 2007, 09:29 PM
All this shadenfraude wouldn't occur if Hilton hadn't sought out media attention to the extent she has. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. But to successfully court public attention the way she did, she should know that the media will follow you through good and bad. The entire course of events were under her control. If her sister was in the same situation, no one would be gleeful to see her in an emotional wreak. People have no sympathy because she's a woman-child who has never had to face consequences. Again, I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I do admit that I'm glad she's facing a punishment that is not easy. She is in distress because I doubt she's ever faced or worried about consequences that would cause her any sort of remorse or afterthought. So seeing that the punishment is having an effect on her is a good thing because her punishment should be severe enough to stop her from driving drunk again.

orangemacapple
Jun 8, 2007, 09:43 PM
she'll be a star in prison -- just like martha was.

and she'll have supervised, single cell for the first 2-4 weeks while being processed. if/when she makes it to a compound somewhere, she can buy anything she wants -- friends, favors, etc.

it won't be hard on her at all. everyone will want her autograph. everyone will be scared to touch her for fear of what she'll be able to do when released in a few days.

FFTT
Jun 8, 2007, 10:44 PM
She'll do her time then make a few million back on talk show and magazine interviews.

Father Jack
Jun 9, 2007, 03:08 AM
Glad to see she has been sent back to complete the full 45 days

FJ

gnasher729
Jun 9, 2007, 03:18 AM
I think what's most disturbing about this whole thing, is that Paris has such a "following", for lack of a better word, among young women. They think she's the greatest and they want to be just like her. :confused: They know who Paris is, what she wears, where she last partied, who her hair stylist is, and who her boyfriend of the night is (or was. )

That's indeed a very strange thing. On the other hand, I don't know any men who think she is even remotely attractive. I think some company used her for advertising mobile phones, and I thought I wouldn't want to touch a phone she's had in her hand, you never know where it has been. :mad:

A Pittarelli
Jun 9, 2007, 03:28 AM
I wouldn't want to touch a phone she's had in her hand, you never know where it has been. :mad:

oh come on, EVERYbody has seen the video ;)

itcheroni
Jun 9, 2007, 03:43 AM
The other sister is better looking. Heck, the mother is better looking.

I think what's most disturbing about this whole thing, is that Paris has such a "following", for lack of a better word, among young women. They think she's the greatest and they want to be just like her. :confused: They know who Paris is, what she wears, where she last partied, who her hair stylist is, and who her boyfriend of the night is (or was. )

Ask any of these followers of Paris who Marie Curie was, or who Dr. Sally Ride is, and you'll probably draw a total blank. What's wrong with this picture?



Check the smoking gun website for updates.

Wonder how she'll like being de-loused?

If you ask people my age(26) or younger, a large number expect to be famous. What's notable is that they have no idea why or how they'll be famous. There's a subversive presumption that being famous is such a great thing to be that most people want to be well-known without doing anything. Just look at myspace and blogs. This could also explain why Paris Hilton has such a following. It doesn't matter why she's famous as long as she is. And a lot of young girls want to be just like her-rich and famous. Heck, I'm not too ashamed to admit I do too(rich and famous that is-not specifically Paris Hilton).

Father Jack
Jun 9, 2007, 04:05 AM
oh come on, EVERYbody has seen the video ;)
I Haven't !!!!

Please tell me more ...... :)

FJ

Counterfit
Jun 9, 2007, 04:16 AM
Not much to tell. I watched about 4 minutes or so of it, and stopped because it was crap. She couldn't even make it as a porn star. :rolleyes:

I am happy for her and I hope this experience makes her a better person, even if only a little bit.

Yeah, I'm not holding out for that.

Father Jack
Jun 9, 2007, 04:22 AM
Not much to tell. I watched about 4 minutes or so of it, and stopped because it was crap. She couldn't even make it as a porn star. :rolleyes:

Don't suppose you have a link? I'd like to make my own mind up .. ;) ;)

FJ

MACDRIVE
Jun 9, 2007, 05:09 AM
I think a lot of you don't realise how much of a shock it is for her to go from her every day life style to an 8' X 12' cell with a stainless steel toilet bolted to the wall.

She's in there all by herself with absolutely nothing to do and no one to talk to until she gets to go outside for one hour a day. Just try to put yourself in her place for a moment and think about it. How would you feel?

She's never been incarcerated before in her entire life. She's never had to endure any form of punishment what-so-ever. Can you just imagine the kind of shock value she's experiencing right now?

Father Jack
Jun 9, 2007, 05:12 AM
She's in there all by herself with absolutely nothing to do

No books or magazines?

FJ

MACDRIVE
Jun 9, 2007, 05:15 AM
No books or magazines?

When's the last time you think Paris read a book?

FleurDuMal
Jun 9, 2007, 05:17 AM
When's the last time you think Paris read a book?

"The Pop-Up Guide to being a Stupid Spoilt Whore"

Father Jack
Jun 9, 2007, 05:18 AM
When's the last time you think Paris read a book?
Fair point indeed ....... but perhaps she will learn to read while she is inside ..;)

FJ

Queso
Jun 9, 2007, 05:27 AM
I think a lot of you don't realise how much of a shock it is for her to go from her every day life style to an 8' X 12' cell with a stainless steel toilet bolted to the wall.

She's in there all by herself with absolutely nothing to do and no one to talk to until she gets to go outside for one hour a day. Just try to put yourself in her place for a moment and think about it. How would you feel?

She's never been incarcerated before in her entire life. She's never had to endure any form of punishment what-so-ever. Can you just imagine the kind of shock value she's experiencing right now?
Isn't that the entire point of prison? After three violations shock value is the only way she's going to amend her behaviour.

I'm glad she's in there because it's the only way she'll learn the lesson, and I really hope she's really hating it. It's a punishment. If she thought it was cool, she'd learn nothing and be straight out drink-driving again.

MACDRIVE
Jun 9, 2007, 05:34 AM
Glad to see she has been sent back to complete the full 45 days

Is she really going to do the full 45 days? I thought she was going to just finish up her 23.

Father Jack
Jun 9, 2007, 05:36 AM
Is she really going to do the full 45 days? I thought she was going to just finish up her 23. :confused:
According to the news this morning on the BBC, she will serve the whole 45 days. (unless I misheard ... :o )

FJ

MACDRIVE
Jun 9, 2007, 05:44 AM
Well, I do think she needs to do her time, but I don't hate her like half the people in this thread do. I actually like watching her on TV striking her poses and stuff. :)

Father Jack
Jun 9, 2007, 05:44 AM
Is she really going to do the full 45 days? I thought she was going to just finish up her 23.
Sorry to post twice .... :o

I copied the following from the BBC News web site:

She arrived in handcuffs and cried throughout the court session.

The judge said that she would have to serve her full 45-day sentence.

"It's not right!" she shouted in response, before calling out to her mother, who was at the court.

FJ

MACDRIVE
Jun 9, 2007, 05:53 AM
Well, it wouldn't be so bad for her if she wasn't being kept in solitary confinement, but she's got to be kept separate from the other girls so that no one tries to kill her.

Queso
Jun 9, 2007, 05:56 AM
Well, it wouldn't be so bad for her if she wasn't being kept in solitary confinement, but she's got to be kept separate from the other girls so that no one tries to kill her.
Do they keep murderers in minimum security jails in the USA? Over here those are full of shoplifters and the like :confused:

Father Jack
Jun 9, 2007, 05:59 AM
Yeah .... but it just takes one nutter !!

Killing someone famous makes you famous (infamous)

FJ

MACDRIVE
Jun 9, 2007, 06:01 AM
Do they keep murderers in minimum security jails in the USA? Over here those are full of shoplifters and the like :confused:

Even a shoplifter can become a murderer if they are compelled enough to kill someone. I suspect at the very least she'd be beaten up pretty bad if she wasn't kept separate.

Queso
Jun 9, 2007, 06:04 AM
Even a shoplifter can become a murderer if they are compelled enough to kill someone. I suspect at the very least she'd be beaten up pretty bad if she wasn't kept separate.
Looking at it that way, everyone can become a murderer if they are compelled enough to kill someone :D

Good idea though. Paris should be kept in solitary confinement out of public view even after she gets out. For her own safety of course ;)

Glen Quagmire
Jun 9, 2007, 07:10 AM
i certainly don't want her to be in distress. but i do want her to serve out her sentence and realize what a completely lucky person she is to be able to lead the kind of life she does.

I doubt if that will happen. Not because of Paris, but because of the people that surround her. Her vacuous friends, her dreadful parents, all the non-entities who say "yes" to her and indulge her every whim because she's famous (for some reason) and she gets photographed a lot.

Paris will exit prison in 45 days, traumatised and screwed up in the head. She'll run right back into the arms of the very people who do her the most harm. She's surrounded by people who don't seem to think there's anything wrong with leading a pointless, empty life, flitting from party to party, having short and unfulfilling relationships with random men. To these people, the concept of "personal responsibility" is alien. Drive whilst suspended: doesn't matter. Get wasted and crash your 600HP Mercedes into a lamp post: doesn't matter. You're rich, good-looking, white and have a good lawyer. That's all you need.

The tragedy of people like Paris, like Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears is that their lives are always going to be like this. When they lie dying in however many years and think back on their lives, they are going to see inconsequential nonsense, a meaningless existence that was largely squandered. The time I married freeloader Kevin Federline. The time I got caught with coke in the back of my Mercedes. The time I played with knives. The time I went to jail. And so on. Unless they are utterly out-of-touch, they aren't going to be able to look back and see any accomplishments, anything they can justifiably be proud of.

And that's why I can't hate Paris. I feel desperately sorry for her.

MrSmith
Jun 9, 2007, 08:23 AM
So, Glen, let me get this right. Basically, you hate her because she has friends, rich parents and a nice car. Now I'm sure any amateur shrink amongst us would easily fit you to a basic profile, but for my part I just pray you never have any role in any country's judicial system, or we'll be lynching anyone we don't like on the nearest tree.

rdowns
Jun 9, 2007, 08:35 AM
So, Glen, let me get this right. Basically, you hate her because she has friends, rich parents and a nice car. Now I'm sure any amateur shrink amongst us would easily fit you to a basic profile, but for my part I just pray you never have any role in any country's judicial system, or we'll be lynching anyone we don't like on the nearest tree.

Wow, did you even read Glen's post?

MrSmith
Jun 9, 2007, 08:37 AM
Wow, did you even read Glen's post?
Yes. Did you?

Queso
Jun 9, 2007, 09:23 AM
So, Glen, let me get this right. Basically, you hate her because she has friends, rich parents and a nice car. Now I'm sure any amateur shrink amongst us would easily fit you to a basic profile, but for my part I just pray you never have any role in any country's judicial system, or we'll be lynching anyone we don't like on the nearest tree.
What exactly are you reading into his post, because I really can't see it?

gauchogolfer
Jun 9, 2007, 09:35 AM
And that's why I can't hate Paris. I feel desperately sorry for her.

So, Glen, let me get this right. Basically, you hate her because she has friends, rich parents and a nice car. Now I'm sure any amateur shrink amongst us would easily fit you to a basic profile, but for my part I just pray you never have any role in any country's judicial system, or we'll be lynching anyone we don't like on the nearest tree.

It seems to me you missed the conclusion of his post, which is that he doesn't hate her at all. Or is this also not clear?

gnasher729
Jun 9, 2007, 10:29 AM
Let's be honest here. Hilton's representation and her family aren't the only ones trying to turn this into a circus. The justice system is also to blame for their incompetence. I applaud the judge for trying to do the right thing, but this little two-step by the sheriff is inexcusable.

May I quote an article from TheRegister: However, the Los Angeles City Attorney was none too impressed with Hilton's release, and filed a petition "demanding LA's Superior Court to show why Sheriff Lee Baca should not be held in contempt of court for releasing Ms Hilton".

gnasher729
Jun 9, 2007, 10:38 AM
Does this mean she deserves to be trashed and put down the way she has lately? I can't tell you how many times i've seen death-threats or death-related jokes saying she should die, that she should be hanged. This is nothing but hate that people are spewing and it's wrong. Nobody deserves to be treated this way, no matter how rich they are.

Fact is that all her life she is treated the way she is because she is rich, and for no other reason. Would she be invited to any party if she wasn't rich? Would people sell porn videos of her if she wasn't rich? Would anyone buy clothes she sells if she wasn't rich? People either seek attention or they don't. If they seek attention, like she does, they can't complain about attention when it doesn't suit them.

Apart from that, I can't see how you would think that she is being treated badly in any way. 45 days in jail for dangerous and drunken driving in a very heavy car with enormous horse powers, while on a three year driving ban, when she has apparently been driving in spite of being banned all the time, doesn't seem inappropriate at all.

TheAnswer
Jun 9, 2007, 11:00 AM
Do they keep murderers in minimum security jails in the USA? Over here those are full of shoplifters and the like :confused:

According to the LA Sheriff, something like 90% of the people in custody in county jails are merely awaiting trial. In that light, I do think Paris is getting harsher treatment than anyone else would have in LA county, because the jails are so packed that they release most people with similar charges into the monitoring program.

They should have come up with a compromise where after serving a portion in the jail, where she would be released into the monitoring program, but at a half-way house or something, and not her own residence.

calculus
Jun 9, 2007, 11:10 AM
45 days in jail for dangerous and drunken driving in a very heavy car with enormous horse powers, while on a three year driving ban, when she has apparently been driving in spite of being banned all the time, doesn't seem inappropriate at all.

It is inappropriate.

It is much too lenient.

rijiMacDij
Jun 9, 2007, 11:25 AM
sorry to barge in on this thread without reading much first, but I just gotta say, "I can't stand the slut....She is the type of bitch that seems to hang her funky bits out at any every opportunity for every advantage..... gives our daughters SweetFAll to aspire to and now I can't help laughing when I see her crying on the news because she has to go and do her time.....What a wimp, thinks she can do the crime cause she can afford to get outta doin the time. *uc* her. She deserves every minute she got, and she's lucky she doesn't have to do extra for the bad behaviour she's done on the out-side"... end if end.rant

Blue Velvet
Jun 9, 2007, 11:30 AM
I can't stand the slut....She is the type of bitch that seems to hang her funky bits out at any every opportunity for every advantage...

Charming.

MrSmith
Jun 9, 2007, 11:34 AM
What exactly are you reading into his post, because I really can't see it?

It seems to me you missed the conclusion of his post, which is that he doesn't hate her at all. Or is this also not clear?
Let me condense the post in question (no disrespect to the OP, who isn't actually arguing with me. Not yet, anyway.):

I hate [things applicable to Paris]
I hate [things applicable to Paris]
I hate [things applicable to Paris]
But actually, folks, I don't hate her. I just feel sorry for her.

I'm not arguing she shouldn't be subject to the full penalty of law - whatever it takes to have a permanent effect on her - but when brutal, animalistic, Nazi-like mentality kicks in I have to resist.

Sun Baked
Jun 9, 2007, 11:37 AM
According to the LA Sheriff, something like 90% of the people in custody in county jails are merely awaiting trial. In that light, I do think Paris is getting harsher treatment than anyone is would have in LA county, because the jails are so packed that they release most people with similar charges into the monitoring program.

They should have come up with a compromise where after serving a portion in the jail, where she would be released into the monitoring program, but at a half-way house or something, and not her own residence.

She drove drunk, she showed no remorse, and she ignored the judges orders (kept driving and getting caught, and took no DUI classes.)

She was sentenced to jail because of those three things, and when she got the back door rich kid deal with the LA Sheriff anyone can see the judge going nuclear.

Luckily the judge calmed down and didn't cite Paris for contempt for not showing up in court the next day and the Sheriff for ignoring his order of "no home detention."

I doubt the judge sees her as anything more than the typical lying sack of alcoholic **** at this point, because she is sure taking the normal stance as one in court these days.

Ty Pennington likely will get a better deal than her for his DUI, since so far he has owned up to it, all he has to do is follow through on it and make the effort to comply.

As far as her getting harsher treatment for a DUI, anyone who goes before a judge time after time on the same DUI will get slammed at some point.

rijiMacDij
Jun 9, 2007, 11:50 AM
Charming.

If your 12 year old copies Hilton's behaviour you will not call it charming, but sorry for the tone of my previous post. It was unnecessarily course.

TheAnswer
Jun 9, 2007, 12:11 PM
She drove drunk, she showed no remorse, and she ignored the judges orders (kept driving and getting caught, and took no DUI classes.)

She was sentenced to jail because of those three things, and when she got the back door rich kid deal with the LA Sheriff anyone can see the judge going nuclear...

I guess until we have statistics to back up Baca's claim that 90% of his inmates are waiting for trial and that the majority of the other 10% are violent offenders, we won't know exactly how much (if any) of a rich-kid deal there was. I have a feeling that the extent of a rich-kid deal is that she could afford to bring in her own doctors where the majority of inmates couldn't afford to do that. Also, the sheriff's decision to allow the monitoring at her palace was stupid...if a shift to monitoring was to occur, they should have found a more appropriate residence.

However, if the sheriff is correct went he says that most people with similar offenses are shifted to the monitoring program after serving 10% of their sentence, then Paris is being treating more severely that other LA county inmates.

I personally would love it if all offenders carried out there complete sentence in jail, and also would have loved it if her sentence was a little harsher. But apparently that's a rarity for non-violent offenders in LA county.

The perfect solution would have been to keep Paris in the monitoring program until her fellow celebutant DUI offenders Ritchie and Lohan are sentenced, and sentence them all to a 150 mph head on collision driving Honda Civics on Pay-Per-View, proceeds going to MADD.

rijiMacDij
Jun 9, 2007, 12:24 PM
The perfect solution would have been to keep Paris in the monitoring program until her fellow celebutant DUI offenders Ritchie and Lohan are sentenced, and sentence them all to a 150 mph head on collision driving Honda Civics on Pay-Per-View, proceeds going to MADD.

I am generally a very forgiving, kind, loving kind of person. But the above strangely makes me chuckle.

Sun Baked
Jun 9, 2007, 12:42 PM
I However, if the sheriff is correct went he says that most people with similar offenses are shifted to the monitoring program after serving 10% of their sentence, then Paris is being treating more severely that other LA county inmates.
She pissed the judge off, most people are idiots, but they don't piss the judge off.

2nyRiggz
Jun 9, 2007, 03:11 PM
Back to jail she go...well at least she could make another album and sing about the thug life.




Bless

Counterfit
Jun 9, 2007, 07:21 PM
I think a lot of you don't realise how much of a shock it is for her to go from her every day life style to an 8' X 12' cell with a stainless steel toilet bolted to the wall.

She's in there all by herself with absolutely nothing to do and no one to talk to until she gets to go outside for one hour a day. Just try to put yourself in her place for a moment and think about it. How would you feel?

She's never been incarcerated before in her entire life. She's never had to endure any form of punishment what-so-ever. Can you just imagine the kind of shock value she's experiencing right now?

I think the same could be said for most of us here. It would certainly be a shock to me to go from sleeping 6AM-11AM, using my PowerBook to post here and other places, to having a stainless steel toilet about 2 feet from my bed, and a cell mate that may or may not want to make me his bitch. I really doubt that if I did happen to go to jail (for something I did), I would have any petitions going around asking The Don (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Carcieri) to let me out.

mcarnes
Jun 9, 2007, 08:00 PM
I saw on the news that she said she wasn't going to appeal and would serve out her 45 day sentence in full. Guess she had enough.

Also saw that the sheriff that let her out after only serving 3 days has a history of getting "donations" from the Hilton family. Uh-oh.

biturbomunkie
Jun 10, 2007, 03:53 AM
So, Glen, let me get this right. Basically, you hate her because she has friends, rich parents and a nice car. Now I'm sure any amateur shrink amongst us would easily fit you to a basic profile, but for my part I just pray you never have any role in any country's judicial system, or we'll be lynching anyone we don't like on the nearest tree.

not just a nice car. that chick has cars that any guys/gurls would want (L: 360 spider R: slr mclaren):

http://www.motorpasion.com/images/paris-hilton-mercedes-slr-04.jpg

i've seen her driving a range rover as well if coupes ain't your cup of tea...

MACDRIVE
Jun 10, 2007, 04:20 AM
not just a nice car. that chick has cars that any guys/gurls would want (L: 360 spider R: slr mclaren):

Ah, but apparently she can't afford to get her trousers hemmed. :D

Counterfit
Jun 10, 2007, 02:37 PM
not just a nice car. that chick has cars that any guys/gurls would want (L: 360 spider R: slr mclaren):

http://www.motorpasion.com/images/paris-hilton-mercedes-slr-04.jpg

i've seen her driving a range rover as well if coupes ain't your cup of tea...

She received $2m plus a Ferrari (I think it was a 360 Spider, but red) for lending her name to a pair of clubs (Miami and LA I think). All she has to do is show up twice a year.

Elphaba
Jun 10, 2007, 03:26 PM
Paris Hilton's statement (taken from TMZ.com) June 9th, 2007

Today I told my attorneys not to appeal the judge's decision. While I greatly appreciate the Sheriff's concern for my health and welfare, after meeting with doctors I intend to serve my time as ordered by the judge.

This is by far the hardest thing I have ever done. During the past several days, I have had a lot of time to reflect and have already learned a bitter, but important lesson from this experience.

As I have said before, I hope others will learn from my mistake. I have also had time to read the mail from my fans. I very much appreciate all of their good wishes and hope they will keep their letters coming.

I must also say that I was shocked to see all of the attention devoted to the amount of time I would spend in jail for what I had done by the media, public and city officials. I would hope going forward that the public and the media will focus on more important things, like the men and women serving our country in Iraq, Afghanistan and other places around the world.

d_and_n5000
Jun 10, 2007, 06:53 PM
Paris Hilton's statement (taken from TMZ.com) June 9th, 2007

It's great that this is what she's saying, but what i want to see is if she actually applies it to her own life. But that last bit is true, why do we care so much? Much more pressing matters going on in the world.

xsedrinam
Jun 10, 2007, 07:13 PM
why do we care so much? Much more pressing matters going on in the world.
"I would hope going forward that the public and the media will focus on more important things, like the men and women serving our country in Iraq, Afghanistan and other places around the world."

Move on to something else with substance? How substantive should it be?

"According to preliminary data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), in 2006, 17,941 people were killed in alcohol-related crashes - an average of one every half-hour. These deaths constituted approximately 41 percent of the 43,300 total traffic fatalities. Drunk (those at or above an illegal BAC of .08) drivers were involved in 13990 fatalities in 2006." MADD Online Stats (http://www.madd.org/stats/0,1056,1112,00.html)

We care because of the number of fatalities caused by irresponsible, self centered drink and drivers who sneer at the suggestion of justice evoked by a court of law while they insist they are really not part of a growing problem, believe society should wink at their crime, minimize its significance and focus on other important, pressing matters.

Ms. Hilton's scenario was magnified because of her celebrity status, it's true. But it still is representative of a legitimate problem.

Tanglewood
Jun 11, 2007, 11:28 AM
The San Diego Union-Tribune wrote an interesting article about the media storm around Paris return to jail last Friday.

'It's brain candy' but story commands popular attention (http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070609/news_1n9frenzy.html)

All in all my own views on this whole thing in regards to Paris Hilton is I really could care less. Though it really is fascinating to the point of reading the tabloid headlines at the grocery store.

obeygiant
Jun 11, 2007, 10:01 PM
Hilton Calls Barbara Walters From Jail -- 'God Has Released Me'

On Sunday at 3 p.m., Paris Hilton phoned me collect from jail. Prisoners must call collect.

"How are you different?" I asked.

"I'm not the same person I was," she said. "I used to act dumb. It was an act. I am 26 years old, and that act is no longer cute. It is not who I am, nor do I want to be that person for the young girls who looked up to me. I know now that I can make a difference, that I have the power to do that. I have been thinking that I want to do different things when I am out of here. I have become much more spiritual. God has given me this new chance."

I asked what kinds of things she might want to do.

She said she would like to help in the fields of breast cancer — her grandmother had breast cancer — or multiple sclerosis. Her father's mother suffers from that disease.

She thought she might get toy companies to build a kind of Paris Hilton playhouse, where sick children might come, and the toy companies could donate toys.

She has had a person whom she described as a spiritual adviser who said, "My spirit or soul did not like the way I was being seen and that is why I was sent to jail."

"God," she said, "has released me." abcnews (http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3264588&page=1)



go back to your cell, Paris

Queso
Jun 12, 2007, 03:49 AM
Hilton Calls Barbara Walters From Jail -- 'God Has Released Me'
Thanks for that. I really needed a good laugh this morning :D

Sdashiki
Jun 12, 2007, 08:28 AM
Let me just clarify some things ive read in this thread:

Jail is not Prison.

Jail is a place for short-term holding.

Jail is where you await your sentencing.

Prison is where you serve your sentence.

90% people in jail are awaiting trial, is probably not far off.

MattG
Jun 13, 2007, 01:39 PM
Someone really needs to just take one for the team and mow the biatch down with a car already. She's just a drain on society and needs to just go away...permanently.

MrSmith
Jul 13, 2007, 10:07 PM
Linkety Splick (http://omg.yahoo.com/did-paris-get-pampered-in-prison/news/985)

I don't hate Paris. It's those that pander to the rich and famous that bug me.

teflon
Jul 14, 2007, 04:58 AM
Let me just clarify some things ive read in this thread:

Jail is not Prison.

Jail is a place for short-term holding.

Jail is where you await your sentencing.

Prison is where you serve your sentence.

90% people in jail are awaiting trial, is probably not far off.

Hmm how come Paris wasn't in jail while she was awaiting trial? Or is that what the bail money is for? You can pay to not go to jail? :confused:

FredAkbar
Jul 14, 2007, 11:15 AM
Hmm how come Paris wasn't in jail while she was awaiting trial? Or is that what the bail money is for? You can pay to not go to jail? :confused:
Right. When you're arrested and put in jail awaiting trail, you can often post bail, an amount you pay to get out of jail until your trail. If you show up at your trial date, you get the money back; it's sort of a security deposit on yourself :).

Sometimes, a judge will decide that you aren't allowed to post bail (or s/he'll set the bail absurdly high), if s/he feels you're a flight risk, or if it's a serious crime like murder.

teflon
Jul 14, 2007, 12:05 PM
Oh, that clear up things a lot. Thanks! I never got the difference between jail and prison :o. I thought it was just 2 sayings for the same thing.

TheAnswer
Jul 14, 2007, 01:15 PM
Jail is not Prison.
Jail is a place for short-term holding.
Jail is where you await your sentencing.
Prison is where you serve your sentence.

Wow...what a brilliant false dichotomy you've created there. There are millions of people, such as Paris Hilton, who have served their sentence in a jail.

The main difference between a jail and a prison is that (in the U.S. at least) jails are usually county or city facilities while prisons are state or federal facilities.