LONGHORN FINISHED, move over vista

[speakerwizard]

it took the open source comunity to finish the job microsoft couldnt (before they decided on xp sp3 also known as vista) lol

http://www.longhorn-reloaded.org/index.php

[psychofreak]

Please could you put up some screenshots :)

Does this work with bootcamp? How legal is it?

[speakerwizard]

probably not legal though ms is aware and has yet to shut it down, only screen shot i have seen is this ....http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=471

i havnt tried it yet, only just discovered it, probably wont out live reactOS though.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/images/longhorn-reloaded.jpg - image

[psychofreak]

I'm downloading it now, and will post if it works in either VMWare Fusion or Parallels :) I have just over 3 hours left apparently...

UPDATE: 2 hours remaining

[Dustman]

probably not legal though ms is aware and has yet to shut it down, only screen shot i have seen is this ....http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=471

i havnt tried it yet, only just discovered it, probably wont out live reactOS though.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/images/longhorn-reloaded.jpg - image

im downloading this!

[speakerwizard]

http://www.joejoe.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=8047&st=120

http://www.joejoe.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=8111

for those attempting, heres some help, ill prob try as soon as i have time

also some mirrors, apparently the installer is now more stable

[Mac-Addict]

Ohh step back Vista theres an open source version of you :P I'm downloading it now.. I hope it works in Parallels!

[Vidd]

Ohh step back Vista theres an open source version of you :P I'm downloading it now.. I hope it works in Parallels!

Open source? Is it even legal?
Interesting project but the Wiki doesn't contain very much information.

[speakerwizard]

its based on the beta of longhorn so original code (not opensource) but has been taken up by the open source community, this all makes it a very (dark) grey area lol, we shall se if it lasts, for those who want an open source windows alternative check out http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html, its like a reverse engineered os thats widows compatable but in early stages (NT based not dos)

[GFLPraxis]

I tested Longhorn build 4074...memory leak in explorer.exe made the performance nearly unusable on the 900 MHz machine I was using, had some compatibility issues with some old games (Jedi Knight 2), and the GUI was kind of ugly...but much more consistent than the current Vista.

I'll fire it up in Parallels.

Downloading.

And to previous posters: no, it's not open source; nobody but Microsoft has the source code.

[Bern]

How interesting this should rear it's head only days after Microshaft threatened to sue the Open Source community :D

[Nermal]

You know, with a title like "Longhorn finished", I thought you meant that Server Longhorn, aka Windows Server 2008, was complete.

[MacRumorUser]

“As of now, and you probably know, the install procedure is posing troubles to the team, and it will be a main part for M2 (Milestone 2). The rest of a set of ‘to do’s’ has been delivered by (team member) Alpha Addict but with no timetable. ”

mmm ? Also if this doesnt support windows software, what really is the point as the ammount of apps will be next to none.

Worth experimenting with parallels - but seeing as that cant even run ubuntu 7.04 yet I wont hold my breath.

[speakerwizard]

mmm ? Also if this doesnt support windows software, what really is the point as the ammount of apps will be next to none.

Worth experimenting with parallels - but seeing as that cant even run ubuntu 7.04 yet I wont hold my breath.

install ubuntu as solaris and it works fine

[localoid]

Woo-hoo! -- a knockoff of Windows, more buggier than the real thing!

[xUKHCx]

its based on the beta of longhorn so original code (not opensource) but has been taken up by the open source community, this all makes it a very (dark) grey area lol, we shall se if it lasts, for those who want an open source windows alternative check out http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html, its like a reverse engineered os thats widows compatable but in early stages (NT based not dos)

Ah ReactOS love it, don't use it at all really but still love it.

[speakerwizard]

here is the original longhorn video ("longhorn to be released 2003" lol)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=b9ifQvQCO7Y

actually looks sooo much better than vista, a lot was cut due to the high hardware requirements and the rest ms couldnt get to work lol, so they skinned xp and added anti virus and slapped a vista sticker on it.

[Mac-Addict]

here is the original longhorn video ("longhorn to be released 2003" lol)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=b9ifQvQCO7Y

actually looks sooo much better than vista, a lot was cut due to the high hardware requirements and the rest ms couldnt get to work lol, so they skinned xp and added anti virus and slapped a vista sticker on it.

OMG WOW! Longhorn looked great maybe even better than.. dare I say it... OS X! but only for a split second.. the music distracted me! Please dont abadon me Mac community I didn't mean to say it!

[ReanimationLP]

Yikes.

Build 4074 was s*** back then, and probably still is.

[psychofreak]

OMG WOW! Longhorn looked great maybe even better than.. dare I say it... OS X! but only for a split second.. the music distracted me! Please dont abadon me Mac community I didn't mean to say it!

It is very nice...but remember how bad the hardware would look anyways...and I don't like the blue of the windows.

Also, Apple apps are much better designed in general, and I I love how this (http://youtube.com/watch?v=IkeC7HpsHxo&mode=related&search=) came up in the 'Related' section :)

[Koodauw]

I never knew this about Longhorn, I just thought they changed the name.

[uncompressed]

I can see it now...

i) CNN picks up the story and runs a fifteen second spot on it, or links to it on their homepage.

ii) A decent sized chunk of the world's hacking and programming community, being sick of M$, jumps on the bandwagon.

ii) Public awareness of LH Reloaded mushrooms.

iii) Due to the massive number of people contributing to the betatesting, LH RL becomes more solid than Vista within... a year, just in time for the majority of XP users who are going to switch to do so. In addition, it's fully compatible with Vista-only software and hardware.

iv) LH RL, being free, efficient, and stable, becomes MORE popular than Vista.

v) Microsoft whines and moans.

vi) No one cares.

vii) Court ruling: It's official, the US Legal System doesn't care, either.

viii) LH RL butchers Vista sales.

ix) Microsoft starts requiring "Vista-approved" products to have a software lock in them that allows them to work ONLY with genuine Vista PCs.

x) The LH RL team breaks the code and has a patch for LH RL available for download within 48 hours.

xi) Microsoft whines and moans.

xii) No one cares.


Come on, LH RL team... no pressure, no pressure. ;)

[MacAficionado]

Wait until the Leopard is unleashed. Then "Vista" will be even further behind than it is now.

:D

[taylorwilsdon]

Wait until the Leopard is unleashed. Then "Vista" will be even further behind than it is now.

:D

That really seems like typical "Mac is great, everything else sucks" idealism. Leopard is version 10.5, coming from version 10.4.9. If you really think "omg the new os will suddenly make everything else suck," then you shouldn't be using a computer. Go dabble in real life.

Its not like its a huge change. In fact, "as far as I know" (but respecting the rules here, I won't say why) the GUI changes are nothing to **** your pants over. A little more brushed metal here, a little less blue there. Whatever. Vista changed the whole look of Windows (whether for good or bad, thats debatable) - Leopard isn't going to be making any dramatic changes on the visual front.

[kiang]

That really seems like typical "Mac is great, everything else sucks" idealism. Leopard is version 10.5, coming from version 10.4.9. If you really think "omg the new os will suddenly make everything else suck," then you shouldn't be using a computer. Go dabble in real life.

Its not like its a huge change. In fact, "as far as I know" (but respecting the rules here, I won't say why) the GUI changes are nothing to **** your pants over. A little more brushed metal here, a little less blue there. Whatever. Vista changed the whole look of Windows (whether for good or bad, thats debatable) - Leopard isn't going to be making any dramatic changes on the visual front.

An OS isn't jsut about the looks of it.
I personally really like the Leopard features we allready know about, and I do think they are apretty big change. (multiple desktops, at last a proper backup utility, resolution independence...) But you are right about the typical "mac is great, everything else sucks": that s*cks :p really, Mac OSX is in my opinion way better than Vista, but that doesn't mean Vista is that bad, in fact I find it pretty good :p

[SpaceMagic]

I'm downloading, but will delete if MS deem it illegal. I wanna see if it works in parallels :D

[MacRumorUser]

install ubuntu as solaris and it works fine

ooo. sweet. I'll do that now. Thanks :)

[RedTomato]

I haven't used windows in years, (I jumped ship when XP came out) but as I work in tech and am applying for a tech teaching post, I feel the need to start keeping abreast of the Windows world. (will buy my first Intel mac this summer).

Can anyone tell me what are the advantages of this LHRL project? Will all windows software and drivers really work with it? (their site was very unclear)

Why wouldn't it be sued into the ground same as Linspire / Lindows was?

[SpaceMagic]

It's installing now :D

So Parallels looks like no graphics support from install... will mess around.

[Steve1496]

Seems mine is stuck on Installing Devices.

[dmw007]

***Yawn***

Another version of Windows.... :rolleyes: :cool:

[Jopling]

That really seems like typical "Mac is great, everything else sucks" idealism. Leopard is version 10.5, coming from version 10.4.9. If you really think "omg the new os will suddenly make everything else suck," then you shouldn't be using a computer. Go dabble in real life.

Its not like its a huge change. In fact, "as far as I know" (but respecting the rules here, I won't say why) the GUI changes are nothing to **** your pants over. A little more brushed metal here, a little less blue there. Whatever. Vista changed the whole look of Windows (whether for good or bad, thats debatable) - Leopard isn't going to be making any dramatic changes on the visual front.


I don't think anyone has the right to bash an unreleased OS like that, especially considering the fact that there are still countless hidden features. I would also say that a resolution independent gui is a big deal.

[Shadow]

I wonder if it keeps the BSoD or changes it to, say, pink? :D

[mkrishnan]

You know, with a title like "Longhorn finished", I thought you meant that Server Longhorn, aka Windows Server 2008, was complete.

This is what I thought this thread was going to be about, also!

So is there a featurelist of what this team wants to accomplish with this strange project? Are they trying to finish WinFS, or was that already out before this version of Longhorn?

[elppa]

its like a reverse engineered os thats widows compatable but in early stages (NT based not dos)

Well you'd b**dy hope so! DOS was a disaster. How a company like they kept shipping DOS based systems right up to 2000 was almost as embarrassing as watching Apple floundering around in the 90s trying to build their next generation OS. NT has a lot going for it. Windows 2000 was an impressive product I felt.

OMG WOW! Longhorn looked great maybe even better than.. dare I say it... OS X! but only for a split second.. the music distracted me! Please dont abadon me Mac community I didn't mean to say it!

No, no. I agree, it is more impressive than OS X. But it's just vapourware. Cairo blue everything else out of the water in the 90s. But never shipped. If MS had brought that to market it would have been good.

The only thing I don't like about that video is the use of Windows and "soul" in the same sentence.

Mac OSX is in my opinion way better than Vista, but that doesn't mean Vista is that bad, in fact I find it pretty good :p

All Microsoft products look GRRREAT compared to the previous version.

That's because the previous version was always terrible!

[speakerwizard]

haha, cairo, i believe that was the 1st windows that was due to have WinFS, and look, they are STILL developing it, 10 or so os's later, its just hilarious isnt it.

[GFLPraxis]

I can see it now...

i) CNN picks up the story and runs a fifteen second spot on it, or links to it on their homepage.

ii) A decent sized chunk of the world's hacking and programming community, being sick of M$, jumps on the bandwagon.

ii) Public awareness of LH Reloaded mushrooms.

iii) Due to the massive number of people contributing to the betatesting, LH RL becomes more solid than Vista within... a year, just in time for the majority of XP users who are going to switch to do so. In addition, it's fully compatible with Vista-only software and hardware.

iv) LH RL, being free, efficient, and stable, becomes MORE popular than Vista.

v) Microsoft whines and moans.

vi) No one cares.

vii) Court ruling: It's official, the US Legal System doesn't care, either.

viii) LH RL butchers Vista sales.

ix) Microsoft starts requiring "Vista-approved" products to have a software lock in them that allows them to work ONLY with genuine Vista PCs.

x) The LH RL team breaks the code and has a patch for LH RL available for download within 48 hours.

xi) Microsoft whines and moans.

xii) No one cares.


Come on, LH RL team... no pressure, no pressure. ;)

Unfortunately, it stops about about step 5. Microsoft moans, the courts are not going to see it as legal. The courts might not shut down the project, but if it's not legal, there's no way any large corporation will EVER install it on one of their machines for fear of Microsoft suing them, no manufacturers will ever preinstall it on a computer, no store will ever sell it, and thus it will never be used by anyone but hobbyists.

[cruzrojas]

If you look at one of the developers blog http://www.luk001.longhorn-reloaded.org/ he get it to work with VMWare, He even posted some screenshots.

Best Regards

[GFLPraxis]

I get the distinct impression that the creative team made some...modifications...to the information displayed during install.

Read for yourself.

[GFLPraxis]

While we're at it...

EDIT: I installed Parallels Tools for Vista. One driver had an install failure (not sure which) but the others worked and I have full graphics support; Explorer.exe is being buggy though. But IE works fine, the GUI looks better than current Vista IMHO and it feels snappier than Vista.

[IDANNY]

http://aycu18.webshots.com/image/18057/2005327284919944208_rs.jpghaha

[IDANNY]

Cant log in now it is asking me for a username and password
i tried using the one I made it isnt working. Did any of you get this

[IDANNY]

nvm got it to work

[RaMaz]

im downloading now, i always wanted longhorn for a long, long, time. But could never get it,

YAY! :D/



gonna install in in Parallels, Let me guess 1GB for aero effects???

[IDANNY]

im downloading now, i always wanted longhorn for a long, long, time. But could never get it,

YAY! :D/



gonna install in in Parallels, Let me guess 1GB for aero effects???
I cant get the resolution past 640x400 on my macbook idk why

[speakerwizard]

These guys are doing the same thing in reverse, they think this is a waste of time and are using vista as a foundation and building in the longhorn features lol:
http://www.aeroxp.org/board/index.php?showforum=88

[RaMaz]

I cant get the resolution past 640x400 on my macbook idk why

odd, im installing right now, i have it with 1 GB RAM, set as vista in parallels i'll let u know what happens after install.

[GFLPraxis]

I cant get the resolution past 640x400 on my macbook idk why

Install Parallels tools.

[Xander562]

So yeah, the Macbook Pro doesn't have a [Delete] key. (I don't think). And I'm stuck here:
http://mandarin.quickshareit.com/share/picture20fccc.jpg


EDIT: Nevermind, i figured out a work-around. :)

[GFLPraxis]

MacBooks and MacBook Pro's DO have a Delete key.

Our Delete key is viewed as BackSpace to Window. If you hold FN when you press it, it registers as a Delete.

Just hold down FN. The key combo is Fn+Ctrl+Alt+Delete on a MacBook.

[Xander562]

MacBooks and MacBook Pro's DO have a Delete key.

Our Delete key is viewed as BackSpace to Window. If you hold FN when you press it, it registers as a Delete.

Just hold down FN. The key combo is Fn+Ctrl+Alt+Delete on a MacBook.

Thats what I meant, no WINDOWS [delete] key, its actually backspace, just labeled "delete."

By the way, the Fn+Ctrl+Alt+Delete combo doesn't work for me. :confused: not sure why. No big deal though, I just went up to Actions->Send Keys-> Ctrl+Alt+delete.

[mkrishnan]

By the way, the Fn+Ctrl+Delete combo doesn't work for me. :confused: not sure why. No big deal though, I just went up to Actions->Send Keys-> Ctrl+Alt+delete.

You still need the alt key.

Fn-Ctrl-Alt-Backspace

[Xander562]

You still need the alt key.

Fn-Ctrl-Alt-Backspace

That's what I meant. Sorry. :o :p

[dopey220]

I assume the answer is no, but is there a way to install Longhorn Reloaded with Boot Camp?

[speakerwizard]

I assume the answer is no, but is there a way to install Longhorn Reloaded with Boot Camp?

i dont see why not, but i wouldnt count on the drivers cd working 100%

[IDANNY]

Install Parallels tools.

How do you install the parallel tools

[psychofreak]

How do you install the parallel tools

Press Actions (in the menubar) -> Install Parallels tools :)

[psychofreak]

I assume the answer is no, but is there a way to install Longhorn Reloaded with Boot Camp?

i dont see why not, but i wouldnt count on the drivers cd working 100%

And back up just in case, there can be problems with non-recommended disks (my computer wouldn't boot to OS X after I tried my DELL OEM install disk)