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sikkinixx
May 26, 2007, 01:03 PM
Ok seriously, why the hell do people act like such morons when you put a controller in their hands and a mic by their mouth?

I was just playing Gears Co-Op in XBL and I get this when I start:

Kid: *singing off key* oh...hi there

Me: Howdy

Kid:hm... are you an American?

Me: Huh?

Kid: Are you a Yank? You said Howdy

Me: No, just said howdy is all. I'm from Canada eh?

Kid: well thats Good, I hate ****** Americans, stupid pigs

Me: Thats a little harsh dude

Kid: What? I would hate to be one

Me: Americans made the game we are playing you know

Kid: well **** you

then he dropped me!! He sounded like he was about 10 years old too. wtf?!

I started playing Uno (yeah, Uno it's awesome) and two guys in the same start spouting off about Africans, (how England has too many of them) and Mexicans, (how the US has too many of them) and when they find out I'm from Canada they call ME a ****er for habouring terrorists and how I'm a fairy then leave the game!!!


WHAT THE HELL?! I have never had this before then TWICE in half an hour?!

The XBL community is leaving a great impression on me :mad:



Vidd
May 26, 2007, 01:06 PM
Is there not some sort of system through which you can report this?
Or is it ineffective?

The reason for venting over XBL is because IRL they cannot be openly racist. On this service they can call people all the names of the day fairly anonymously.

it5five
May 26, 2007, 01:09 PM
I think it's the internet in general. You see stuff like this on a lot of other forums, and on social network sites like Digg. It's the whole anonomity thing. Most of the people saying this stuff are younger or weaker, so they couldn't get away with it in real life. So they try to sound like tough guys on the internet.

sikkinixx
May 26, 2007, 01:15 PM
Is there not some sort of system through which you can report this?
Or is it ineffective?



I should have took their Gamer Tag's down but I didn't think to. I was just shocked about it. Like trash talking is all part of the fun. Telling people they got skooled and owned and "eat that bitch" is the reality of gaming (even with good friends) but seriously? Spilling out racist crap? Thats not cool at all.

AppleGuy08
May 26, 2007, 01:29 PM
Haha yah, this happens to me all the time. I play socom combined assault for PS2 online (has one of the biggest online communities of any online game) and if i hear 5 n words and 100 focks, thats a good day. Usually everyone uses some kind of profanity or racist word every other sentence. Like "wtf, i shot that fockin n***er in his little bitch ass head"

yah, pretty bad

Osarkon
May 26, 2007, 01:34 PM
I saw it in Counter Strike : Source the other day as well, was a first for me.

There was some french kid, didn't sound more than 12 singing and talking a lot and insulting people with his mic, then some guy came onto the mic and went 'will you just shut up you ****ing n***er'

What on earth happened to friendly game playing? :(

Dagless
May 26, 2007, 02:43 PM
Telling people they got skooled and owned and "eat that bitch" is the reality of gaming (even with good friends) but seriously? Spilling out racist crap? Thats not cool at all.

You do? Wow.
My brother does all that swearing stuff on Xbox Live. It's very annoying. But with a 14 year old girl in the house he gets his connection cut whenever he gets too vocal.

Anyways. Give a kid a mic and the internet and it's just a load of chaos. Thankfully nobody uses the mic features on Half Life 2. If anyone does talk I find it distracts me so I just turn off the voice features.

gloss
May 26, 2007, 02:48 PM
There are very few things for which Penny Arcade (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/04/30) does not have an applicable comic.

MacRumorUser
May 26, 2007, 02:48 PM
The main reason I joined an over 18's LIVE Clan, was to avoid those annoying incidents.

After you've played online with these annoying live users it totally ruins any enjoyment of live....

2nyRiggz
May 26, 2007, 03:45 PM
This is one of the reasons why I don't play halo 2 online anymore.....I've never been called a N so many times in my life before halo2.


The last straw for me is when the dude told me he didn't know N's could afford the 360 and I play like a ditched up N.

I don't mind all the bad mouthing but when it gets too far I leave.



Bless

Haoshiro
May 26, 2007, 04:04 PM
I should have took their Gamer Tag's down but I didn't think to. I was just shocked about it. Like trash talking is all part of the fun. Telling people they got skooled and owned and "eat that bitch" is the reality of gaming (even with good friends) but seriously? Spilling out racist crap? Thats not cool at all.

You don't have to take down their GamerTag.... just go to your "Recently Played List" (right most tab where your Friends are listed).

Then submit a review of file a complaint... it's easy, fast, and effective. ;)

Jovian9
May 26, 2007, 05:46 PM
This happened to a friend and I on GoW one night. Even though we are not of african-american heritage there were 3 people constantly calling us the "n" word (b/c one of them said it once and I immediately booted them). I kept booting them from the game and they kept coming back. One even sent me a message (text) on Xbox Live that had the "n" word on it. I reported them and even e-mailed Xbox Live support but the person was never banned or suspended :( Even though I had proof in my message box. I left it there until it automatically deleted itself but nothing ever came of my reports about these people.

Mac-Addict
May 26, 2007, 05:56 PM
I went on a French server on Counter Strike Source (bootcamp) and I kept getting kicked, and so I kept reloading and then some french person went on team speak and said they dont want my English scum on their servers... (the dude spoke bad english). I hadn't done anything at all its just people ignorance.

gamerz
May 26, 2007, 07:42 PM
ive noticed it also while playing on xbl. It's nor only racism, but also just complete idiocy. Sometimes people are yelling at each other for nothing, swearing every second word, and they all sound like 10 year olds. I just turn the chat off when this happens, which is in almost 4 out of 5 games.

BengalDuck
May 26, 2007, 08:16 PM
It's (tragically) the power of giving people a loudspeaker and a chance to be heard without getting to see them. I doubt any of the racists/bigots/hypocrites/overall *******s would say any of the stuff I've heard if the same people were playing in their living room.

I've heard dozens of racits, anti-semetics, homophobes, etc. etc. I end up putting those little kids on mute and reporting them, buyt I know it doesn't do much.

I usually just leave and find another game if i'm just playing with randoms, but most of the time either i'm hosting or one of my XBL friends is, and we just kick them.

One note to this that I recently found out. This isn't just Americans doing this! I played in the early morning a few days ago because I had to be up really early and had some time to kill, and I joined a game with a few people from Sweden in it. Although I couldn't understand what the heck they were saying most of the time, everything was fine until a German dude came in. Then it was "kill little hitler" etc etc etc.

The point is, there are some dumb people who get a kick out of saying stuff over a microphone that they wouldn't have the balls nor the desire to say in real life. Just try and remember that next time you get offended by some douche, and maybe check out another host who will hopefully be more mature.

Cristian
May 26, 2007, 08:39 PM
Trash talking and language is ok in my opinion especially when you are playing a rated M game. Racism is something I deal with all the time but I just ignore it because I remember it's just pussies over the internet.

GFLPraxis
May 26, 2007, 10:23 PM
Wow, do I ever love PC gaming without voice chat. I type really quick and don't have to deal with the voices...

evilgEEk
May 27, 2007, 02:41 AM
The only online game I play is WarCraft III, and I only do voice chat with buddies on Skype. We always create our own games, and if people get too mouthy when playing the race card, we boot 'em.

Works out great. ;)

MacRumorUser
May 27, 2007, 03:36 AM
I do find that with Xbox Live.

If the person you are submitting a player review / complaint about are on the 'Underground' or 'Pro' servers, then there is less likleyhood that your bad feedback will do anything, as 'Trash Talk' is par of the course it seems.

However M$ do take Trash Talk complaints and such far more seriously if you choose the Family zone as TT is technically not permitted.

In most cases I've had less TT in the F zone than any other.

However worst than TT is..............

TRASH SINGING... Some tone deaf individual singing an annoying song repeatedly and still getting the lyrics wrong... ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

takao
May 27, 2007, 06:18 AM
that's why i mute all those annoying players or if it gets too bad i simply leave the server
but i never had it so bad like you say since back in the day when i was playing a lot online voice chat was still more of an exception than a rule.. and typing out slurs could get you banned quite fast on some better servers

i also played mostly on the same servers with good admins or one from a clan where most of the time some guy was present to avoid such stuff

actually i left 2 clans simply because they wanted me to buy a headset

in theory voice chat is a fantastic addition but in reality it's not really that fantastic, since for every player using it the right way ("two at A", "tunnel", "plaza", "42 behind corner", "grenade", "sniper in top window", "incoming through church" etc.) you get 1 singing stupid songs, 1 spouting of insults and at least 2 talking about what breakfast they had and how cool movie xyz is

Ja Di ksw
May 29, 2007, 12:30 AM
I hate, HATE how some people become the biggest ******** when they can hide behind text on a screen.

There are very few things for which Penny Arcade (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/04/30) does not have an applicable comic.

Yeah, this is a good penny arcade (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/04/21) one for it too.

Motley
May 29, 2007, 11:57 AM
I hate, HATE how some people become the biggest ******** when they can hide behind text on a screen.
Yeah, this is a good penny arcade (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/04/21) one for it too.

I would have thought that this one (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19) was the most appropriate. And this little commentary from Ars (http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/05/28/the-users-we-dont-talk-we-dont-like-you-we-just-want-to-play) sums up my feelings when it comes to playing on line.

cycocelica
May 29, 2007, 02:26 PM
The best is when little kids are saying it. Then the parents wonder why they are saying these kind of remarks. The Mature rating probably should have been the first sign

wyatt23
May 29, 2007, 02:33 PM
The profanity of online gaming truly is atrocious. It really is filled with trash (words and people). However, I think by people getting all uproarious about it, just gives the filthmongers more ammunition. If they can get to you, your experience is diminished because of them. People like that look to get a rise out of people. When you boot them or argue back, it only makes their experience fun, while ruining yours.

Racism is bad, but wouldn't it be good to take the power away from the words they use? Ignore them with mute. or listen and laugh at their ignorance.

e˛Studios
May 29, 2007, 03:23 PM
I haven't noticed that its all too bad on PSN enabled games. Kids will be kids i suppose, the bad part is when parents use consoles as baby sitters.

This was one ding against XBL in my opinion, and one of the reasons why i never bought a X360. I never could play XBL games without some kid, or adult acting like a child ruining the fun.

Maybe PSN over time will become the same way, but for now its not and I like it that way :)

Ed

Coded-Dude
May 29, 2007, 03:26 PM
Are you guys talking about people like this? (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7986309503803248571) :p

sikkinixx
May 29, 2007, 08:45 PM
^

lol


My faith has been somewhat restored. I played with a few cool guys who don't spazz out on the mic and actually were a lot of fun to play co-op with since they actually had like strategy :eek: and communicated what they planned on doing so I could do what needed to be done, etc. Overall it much better experience :)

coffey7
Jun 4, 2007, 06:10 PM
Racism works both ways and all ways. Most people from outside America just hate us because we are different or they are jealous they don't have the same freedoms. Try living in Venezuela? Hugo Chavez put my friends parents(teachers) in prison because they tried to tell the truth about America and the world. Some great country that is.

Agathon
Jun 10, 2007, 07:29 AM
Most people from outside America just hate us because we are different or they are jealous they don't have the same freedoms.

Comments like this are one of the leading causes of anti-Americanism. :(

Anyway, I don't play XBL much, but I rarely get the kids. I play mostly ghost recon and the like, and I never play ranked games. The only bad dude I ever met was a team killer, and he got kicked.

BoyBach
Jun 10, 2007, 07:39 AM
It's stories like these that remind me why I stick to good ol' fashioned sitting around a single console with a bunch of mates and a few cans of beer.

(Four player Goldeneye on the N64 is still the zenith. Or maybe it's Bomberman!)

P.S. Does Xbox Live have an 'ignore list' feature so that you can 'ban' these people from your games?

Dagless
Jun 10, 2007, 09:45 AM
Well if you play in the family oriented "zone" then you should be fine. I don't know about kicking people (I don't play on Live - no gamer card yet), but if its not in there it should be. If someones being an arse in my house I will kick them out. Only fair I should be able to do it online too.

Goldeneye became TimeSplitters 2 for us :) Anaconda!

Chone
Jun 10, 2007, 09:31 PM
Comments like this are one of the leading causes of anti-Americanism. :(

Anyway, I don't play XBL much, but I rarely get the kids. I play mostly ghost recon and the like, and I never play ranked games. The only bad dude I ever met was a team killer, and he got kicked.

The fact you call your country America pretty much says why there is anti-"americanism"

zero2dash
Jun 11, 2007, 09:03 AM
You don't have to take down their GamerTag.... just go to your "Recently Played List" (right most tab where your Friends are listed).

Then submit a review of file a complaint... it's easy, fast, and effective. ;)

Yeah, just do this...Hao's right. Reporting people is the best thing to do; not only does it alert the Live people of the offending people, but it also reduces the likelihood that you'll ever play that person again.

I finally got Live Gold again over the weekend, and had a pretty pleasant experience. Some moron kid called my Pac-Man CE avatar "dumb" but I just rolled my eyes and watched him proceed to make an ass of himself with his Vision Camera while trying to pick up a girl who was playing who also had a Vision Camera. Stupid kids...:rolleyes:

XNine
Jun 13, 2007, 07:33 PM
Are you guys talking about people like this? (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7986309503803248571) :p

#1, I hear kids like that on XBL all the time, and I'm just praying to god that their room catches fire while they sleep, or their father comes and beats the hell out of them so I can hear them crying.

#2. Any parent who lets their kid, who's under 14 play on XBL on mature games, should be shot in the head. It's become Digital Daycare and I get so tired of these dumbass kids. IF you're a parent, please, for God's sake, send your kid outside to play in the dirt, I don't want to hear them.

Aranince
Jun 13, 2007, 07:47 PM
I have an idea...

Wii + Super Smash brawl :)

skinnylegs
Jun 13, 2007, 07:55 PM
I play a fair amount of CoD3 online and I find the language atrocious. The vast majority of foul-mouthed players are very young. They drop n-bombs and use every foul word in the language. Sad.....very sad.

e˛Studios
Jun 13, 2007, 07:56 PM
I have an idea...

Wii + Super Smash brawl :)

Did you even read the topic or other posters? Your post has nothing to with it :rolleyes:

Oni, I agree with you on all your points. Basically there are parents out there that think a 360 or PS3 is an electronic babysitter.

Parental responsibility, or lack thereof is to blame here.

Ed

XNine
Jun 14, 2007, 12:06 AM
Did you even read the topic or other posters? Your post has nothing to with it :rolleyes:

Oni, I agree with you on all your points. Basically there are parents out there that think a 360 or PS3 is an electronic babysitter.

Parental responsibility, or lack thereof is to blame here.

Ed


Aye. It's one thing for someone's kid to come and play a ranked game with me, talk a little trash, ask some questions if I'm leading the way, etc. It's another if I hear their kid talking worse than I do. I don't use any racial epitaphs in my vulgarity, unless I'm joking amongst friends (they call me a kraut, I call them poles or wops, you know how that is). But for me to hear a kid make fun of someone else because of where they're from makes me realize just how sad humanity really is. It's 2007 and these kids think it's okay to say "jap" "******" or anything else they may think is funny, or that it's okay to use such language to insult someone else. Yet, the music I hear blaring in the background of their mics is rap and their playing a japanese-made video game. Clueless dolts.

I'm quite amazed that the human race has lasted this long.

JackAxe
Jun 14, 2007, 12:20 AM
Are you guys talking about people like this? (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7986309503803248571) :p

If that were my child, I would beat him. :)

<]=)

kuebby
Jun 20, 2007, 08:25 PM
Aye. It's one thing for someone's kid to come and play a ranked game with me, talk a little trash, ask some questions if I'm leading the way, etc. It's another if I hear their kid talking worse than I do. I don't use any racial epitaphs in my vulgarity, unless I'm joking amongst friends (they call me a kraut, I call them poles or wops, you know how that is). But for me to hear a kid make fun of someone else because of where they're from makes me realize just how sad humanity really is. It's 2007 and these kids think it's okay to say "jap" "******" or anything else they may think is funny, or that it's okay to use such language to insult someone else. Yet, the music I hear blaring in the background of their mics is rap and their playing a japanese-made video game. Clueless dolts.

I'm quite amazed that the human race has lasted this long.

I totally agree with you. Those kids are the first ones to get muted. But overall most people are really nice and (within reason) pretty polite. But then again most of my chatting is done in team games.

seenew
Jun 20, 2007, 10:52 PM
senior year of high school, well, last year (:P) in my lit class, we had a heated match of Mario Kart DS going on with 6 people, and this guy had been getting stomped the whole time. He passed me and won the last race, and let it slip big-- "RAPED YOU, B***H, RAPED YOU IN THE A**!"
Yeah, luckily our instructor was extremely chill, she just gave him the worst look ever, but didn't do anything.

Gaming can bring out the worst in people. :D