Im creating a logo , But need some help and advice.

[MiniMan.]

Hi guys,

I dont usally make logos so this is a new area to me. Be honest about the picture attached

Are any, any Good?

The person wonts a globe type of graphic?

Tell me thoughts!!

(images removes)


Thanks for any help.

[psychofreak]

I have 0 experience in this area, but at first glance the "rn" in International is too scrunched, and looks more like "m"...

[MiniMan.]

I have 0 experience in this area, but at first glance the "rn" in International is too scrunched, and looks more like "m"...

Your Right, on the big image its no so bad but the small image it does look bad. Ill change it but ill wait for more replies first.

But Thanks

[LeviG]

you know this you're getting paid were not is going to come up here :)

I'm not going to comment heavily on the designs as your client is the one who should be (plus I'm not getting paid), simple as that, they have to like the design(s) you put forward, they then pick the one or bits they like and then you come back with a new one .

But the "world" looks like a beachball without any colour. Also is it carers or careers :)

To be perfectly honest I don't really like any of them, they don't really do anything for me and I'm struggling to relate the design to the company, except the international bit. The "world" also looks familiar to atleast one of logo I've seen but can't think where.

[MiniMan.]

you know this you're getting paid were not is going to come up here :)

I'm not going to comment heavily on the designs as your client is the one who should be (plus I'm not getting paid), simple as that, they have to like the design(s) you put forward, they then pick the one or bits they like and then you come back with a new one .

But the "world" looks like a beachball without any colour. Also is it carers or careers :)

To be perfectly honest I don't really like any of them, they don't really do anything for me and I'm struggling to relate the design to the company, except the international bit. The "world" also looks familiar to atleast one of logo I've seen but can't think where.

o.k, by the way im not getting paid so i should probs change the title

[CanadaRAM]

Gotta be a globe, not a beachball
Is it Carers (people who care for others)?
If it is, then this is a really, really weak name. Scrap the globe, I would be reinforcing the word Care (with a heart, or hand graphic) rather than International

Or Careers?

Why is it Young? What does that mean? Ideally, the logo will help us understand that.

Does International have to be the same size as the Young Care(e)rs?

I find the type too light. It can't compete with the globe and it may disappear or break up in small sizes / low res reproduction.

[MiniMan.]

Gotta be a globe, not a beachball
Is it Carers (people who care for others)?


Yer Carers

Thanks for this, it all helps

[D0ct0rteeth]

the client should prob start over with a new name, and actually pay someone who is a professional to help come up with that name and a real brand.

Its not your fault Miniman, you have nothing to work with, Young Carers International has sooooooooo many problems.

[TheAnswer]

First...start out designing in B&W...eventually, no matter what the intended usage...someone is gonna fax this. So make sure the design looks good coming from a fax machine. Like others have said, heavier type.

If the client wants a globe, no problem...but you've given them a cold, logical, unfeeling, political globe...aim more for a natural, nurturing, feeling, life sustaining globe. And, following CanadaRAM's train of thought, find a way to get a more human element in there...maybe a globe with continents shaped like stylised youth/hands/hearts (actually...Africa and North America are basically heart shaped, South America and Europe are generally hand shaped).

Is YCI a group of persons caring for youth...or a group of youth caring for others?

[MiniMan.]

Thanks for this guys it all helps.

[LeviG]

Gotta be a globe, not a beachball


I know it's meant to be but it does look like a beachball too :rolleyes:

[MiniMan.]

what do you think to the conept of this logo, Its just a mockup!

[psychofreak]

what do you think to the conept of this logo, Its just a mockup!Its all right but needs a LOT of work to make it nice...

[CanadaRAM]

Normally, I am opposed to graphic elements that break words, however, in this case, the name is so much of a problem, you may want to use a device like this (although in a better font and much better arranged)

Edit - OK I am several posts behind, you've moved on.

One thing about any photo or graphic you use, you must be sure it is copyright cleared (that is, purchase it from a stock art company, take it / draw it yourself, or make &#*)ed sure it's released as freeware.)

The hands image -- remember what we said about - "It has to work in Black?"

The third one: Who says that International has to be on the same line and the same size?

[Vidd]

what do you think to the conept of this logo, Its just a mockup!

http://att.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75263&stc=1&d=1180388222

That would not work in black & white. It would just be that general shape.
Even greyscale may be iffy due to the effect of photocopies.

[TheAnswer]

Try going with a thicker, slightly more less formal font than the one you have, that'll allow you to get thicker without feeling too corporate...something like this:

[MiniMan.]

Yer tht hands one is pretty rubbish ill scrap that.

Thanks this all helps

[psychofreak]

Try going with a thicker, slightly more less formal font than the one you have, that'll allow you to get thicker without feeling too corporate...something like this:

I know it was just a quickie, but a mish-mash of four fonts is a no-no...

[TheAnswer]

Miniman. could you tell us a little more about the company/organization?

Is it people caring for youth...pediatricians, teachers, etc....or is it aimed at fostering more caring in our youth, educating them about world poverty, environmental issues...or is it neither? (if it's neither...then what is it about?)

Knowing more a little more about the client can help us critique your mockups more effectively and will help us give more appropriate suggestions/inspirations.

[TheAnswer]

I know it was just a quickie, but a mish-mash of four fonts is a no-no...

It's only three versions of one font...but yeah, it still looked a little busy to me.

And I got the name wrong...Doh!

Edit...I reposted it above, with a slightly less busy design and the correct name.

[MiniMan.]

"The Answer" That looks pretty good.

Thanks for every1's help its reall kind, Thanks

[faustfire]

I know you have no control over the name, but the word "carers" is just so uncommon it looks mispelled. If you decide to go with the globe type logo that you have on the first examples you should created it in a 3d program so that all the proportions are correct, as it is now the whole globe looks a bit off.

[MiniMan.]

I know you have no control over the name, but the word "carers" is just so uncommon it looks mispelled. If you decide to go with the globe type logo that you have on the first examples you should created it in a 3d program so that all the proportions are correct, as it is now the whole globe looks a bit off.


Totaly agree with everything you just said, Thanks.

Do you like this one ANYONE?

[LeviG]

better, still dont get why the world is so important. I'd also move the I in the globe to the left a bit.

[MiniMan.]

I showed my client that logo above. He liked it but wonts it 3D like the one at the very top. I dont have any 3d programs or photoshop.


What Should I do??

[CanadaRAM]

I showed my client that logo above. He liked it but wonts it 3D like the one at the very top. I dont have any 3d programs or photoshop.


What Should I do??

Get a new client? :p

[epiphany]

I thought the original blue background graphic was great. If you want to add 'heart' to it, put a heart at the North Pole, or perhaps as a background outline to the globe.

My problem is with the non-capitalization of the "global research...". Makes it look insecure.

[MiniMan.]

I thought the original blue background graphic was great. If you want to add 'heart' to it, put a heart at the North Pole, or perhaps as a background outline to the globe.

My problem is with the non-capitalization of the "global research...". Makes it look insecure.

I know what you mean about the caps letters. The one big promlem with the first logo is i actually drew it in 2d its not perfectly 3d so it looks weird. I dont know how to make it proper 3d, i have no 3d software except for google sketch up!!??

[Vidd]

Photoshop can create a decent 3D look.
Also, are you sticking with this horrible grid-covered globe?

What about something like the Firefox logo?
It still has depth.
EDIT:
The IceWeasel logo (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IceWeaselIcon) attempts are a good example.

[snickelfritz]

Create a circular selection on a layer in Photoshop.
Fill it with a white/black radial gradient centered on the specular highlight area. (the center of the upper left quadrant of the circle for example)
3D sphere is the result.
Composite/blend this layer with color or other graphics to create the 3D icon.
I would experiment with glassy orbs etc... as well, if I were using this approach for the symbol.
Be sure to create the graphic at high resolution; scaling it up later will result in degradation.

Personally, I think you should use simple vector graphics to create the icon.
3D icons with gradients etc... are far less versatile and effective than simple spot colors and abstract shapes/negative space.

GL

[MiniMan.]

Create a circular selection on a layer in Photoshop.
Fill it with a white/black radial gradient centered on the specular highlight area. (the center of the upper left quadrant of the circle for example)
3D sphere is the result.
Composite/blend this layer with color or other graphics to create the 3D icon.
I would experiment with glassy orbs etc... as well, if I were using this approach for the symbol.
Be sure to create the graphic at high resolution; scaling it up later will result in degradation.

Personally, I think you should use simple vector graphics to create the icon.
3D icons with gradients etc... are far less versatile and effective than simple spot colors and abstract shapes/negative space.

GL

Thanks, This all helps :)