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MacBytes
Jun 1, 2007, 12:08 AM
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Description:: Group claims 'clearly Steve got the message,' decommissions 'greenmyapple.com' website

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kingofkolt
Jun 1, 2007, 12:17 AM
LOL... They wish...

iMeowbot
Jun 1, 2007, 12:30 AM
LOL... They wish...
Yeah, it's cute how they take credit for things Apple made very clear they had already been doing for years.

swingerofbirch
Jun 1, 2007, 12:55 AM
I followed a few links and it seems Greenpeace still lists Apple as the worst tech company, environmentally speaking. It's funny the companies in the top spots, they have qualifiers saying those companies still use the most hazardous chemicals.

It seems to be a question of metrics! How do you measure if a company is environmentally friendly or not? I think it should be: what energy source do the factories use, how long do the products last, what types of chemicals are used in the products, and is there an infrastructure to safely dispose of those chemicals. I think computers might be seen as wasteful in that they have improved so much over time. Whereas with televisions, you only now see people starting to buy new ones because we have HDTV which is the only change since color! So, perhaps the idea of modularity in computing could be useful. However, it seems to be too complicated for most users to upgrade their machines, or they find it more valuable to buy an entirely new machine as so much has changed between the last time they bought a computer, it is cost advantageous to buy a new one.

I know my family has run into this problem. It used to be that I was the only one interested in computers, and so as I got new ones, the old ones would go to another family member. But now, we all have Macs and if we want to upgrade--it's a real question: where does this old, not worthless, computer go? We used to give to schools, but they've got budgets for this now that include the money to upgrade their equipment every few years--God knows where those hundreds of computers go after the few years! I think it's a real problem--just don't know the solution. I suppose they could be shipped en masse to developing countries?

DMann
Jun 1, 2007, 01:13 AM
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Description:: Group claims 'clearly Steve got the message,' decommissions 'greenmyapple.com' website

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Is this a contraction for Greenpeace?

whooleytoo
Jun 1, 2007, 06:44 AM
Well, they clearly have a victory; in that they have raised the awareness of environmental issues to such a degree. That can only be a good thing.

shamino
Jun 1, 2007, 03:46 PM
Well, they clearly have a victory; in that they have raised the awareness of environmental issues to such a degree. That can only be a good thing.
You're assuming anybody paid attention to them in the first place. Aside from the die-hard Greens (who don't need convincing) and us Apple fanboys (who will read anything that mentions Apple, no matter what it says), I don't think anybody else even knew they were speaking.

whooleytoo
Jun 3, 2007, 09:26 AM
You're assuming anybody paid attention to them in the first place. Aside from the die-hard Greens (who don't need convincing) and us Apple fanboys (who will read anything that mentions Apple, no matter what it says), I don't think anybody else even knew they were speaking.

In that case - if no one was listening to Greenpeace - then they've certainly scored a victory now. They have a front-page response on one of the busiest web sites on the Internet from one of the most influential names in the technology industry.

shamino
Jun 3, 2007, 11:45 AM
In that case - if no one was listening to Greenpeace - then they've certainly scored a victory now. They have a front-page response on one of the busiest web sites on the Internet from one of the most influential names in the technology industry.
You're kidding, right?

MacRumors is an influential news outlet that will impact the world in general and not just Mac fans? And how are a few dozen posts saying "GP are idiots" a victory in any sense of the word?

Or were you referring to IGM, or RoughlyDrafted?

Greenpeace's PR did not appear on Apple's web site, nor did it appear on the front pages of any actual news outlets, as far as I can tell.

whooleytoo
Jun 5, 2007, 11:58 AM
You're kidding, right?

MacRumors is an influential news outlet that will impact the world in general and not just Mac fans? And how are a few dozen posts saying "GP are idiots" a victory in any sense of the word?

Or were you referring to IGM, or RoughlyDrafted?

Greenpeace's PR did not appear on Apple's web site, nor did it appear on the front pages of any actual news outlets, as far as I can tell.

No, my point is that Jobs' response appeared on Apple's front page, which in turn (inevitably) propagated around the Macosphere. When Jobs speaks, quite a few people listen, meaning it raised the general awareness of environmental issues, concerns and dangers within the tech industry.

Hence, I'd consider it a victory for Greenpeace.

PCMacUser
Jun 5, 2007, 04:12 PM
You're assuming anybody paid attention to them in the first place. Aside from the die-hard Greens (who don't need convincing) and us Apple fanboys (who will read anything that mentions Apple, no matter what it says), I don't think anybody else even knew they were speaking.

Well believe it or not, it made it to my country's most-read newspaper!