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nbs2
Jun 1, 2007, 11:57 AM
Not a promise, but the guy who created "The Pill" foresees a day when we have children without having sex. He sees this as a good thing but I have some concerns.

1) If it is fair to say that whatever the source (evolution, God, Thetans, spontaneous combustion), the human body is better planned, more efficient, and more intelligent about it's needs than we could ever make it?

2) Doesn't the body understand what the peak time to bear children is?

3) By delaying having children until their late 40s through 60s as is being suggested, aren't you gestating a child at an age when both mother and fetus/child are more likely to have medical problems - putting more strain on the medical system?

4) By that same delay, aren't you placing those that can't afford the cryo system at a place of disadvantage since those women, if they have children, will be required to recuse themselves for at least a minimal period from the workplace?

5) By that same delay, life expectancy certainly is greater than it was 10, 20, 50 years ago, but not that much more that having a child at 50 is like having one at 25. Don't you increase the risk that more children will suffer from parental death or major illness before reaching the age of majority - again putting strain on society to compensate?

6) When we manipulate corn to produce food later in the season than it naturally could, we get concerned about GMO. When we manipulate men and women to produce babies later than they naturally could, why aren't we concerned about GMO?



leekohler
Jun 1, 2007, 12:14 PM
GM is is going to make humans? I hope they're better at that than making cars. :)

lancestraz
Jun 1, 2007, 12:26 PM
GM is is going to make humans? I hope they're better at that than making cars. :)
Don't be silly.

He means Game Masters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamemaster).

nbs2
Jun 1, 2007, 12:31 PM
Don't be silly.

He means Game Masters (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamemaster).

Or maybe I meant General Mills

Now that we've gotten that out of our system...

Ugg
Jun 1, 2007, 12:33 PM
What's your point?

kalisphoenix
Jun 1, 2007, 12:39 PM
I thought you meant Gold Master (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_master) and I was like "We're clearly in pre-alpha right now..." *crashes*

.Andy
Jun 1, 2007, 06:34 PM
Not a promise, but the guy who created "The Pill" foresees a day when we have children without having sex. He sees this as a good thing but I have some concerns.

1) If it is fair to say that whatever the source (evolution, God, Thetans, spontaneous combustion), the human body is better planned, more efficient, and more intelligent about it's needs than we could ever make it?

2) Doesn't the body understand what the peak time to bear children is?

3) By delaying having children until their late 40s through 60s as is being suggested, aren't you gestating a child at an age when both mother and fetus/child are more likely to have medical problems - putting more strain on the medical system?

4) By that same delay, aren't you placing those that can't afford the cryo system at a place of disadvantage since those women, if they have children, will be required to recuse themselves for at least a minimal period from the workplace?

5) By that same delay, life expectancy certainly is greater than it was 10, 20, 50 years ago, but not that much more that having a child at 50 is like having one at 25. Don't you increase the risk that more children will suffer from parental death or major illness before reaching the age of majority - again putting strain on society to compensate?

6) When we manipulate corn to produce food later in the season than it naturally could, we get concerned about GMO. When we manipulate men and women to produce babies later than they naturally could, why aren't we concerned about GMO?

How is having babies without sex genetically modified?

Queso
Jun 1, 2007, 06:57 PM
I like the idea of the concept of humanity being totally redefined. When you think about it, a genetically modified human could come in any shape you could imagine, with extra limbs, wings, several brains or even eyes in the backs of his/her head. Since we would be even more individual than we currently are, and with reproduction being replaced by replication, minor differences such as skin colour just wouldn't matter anymore.

Motley
Jun 1, 2007, 07:31 PM
I always figured the future would end up like Gattaca.

MACDRIVE
Jun 1, 2007, 11:17 PM
This thread reminds me of that one scene in the movie Demolition Man where Sandra Bullock tries to get Sylvester Stallone to have virtual reality sex with her.

obeygiant
Jun 1, 2007, 11:48 PM
Welcome to Blade Runner and the Tyrell Corporation.

Roger1
Jun 2, 2007, 03:12 PM
Genetically modify me? I'm hip. :) I want 6% body fat, my IQ bumped up about 12 points, my sore foot and shoulder to be healed, more hair, less chin. less hair on my back, more stamina in the sack, :D , etc.

Wait, did you say we won't need to have sex any more??:( Forget it, just let me die, then.

:p

ghall
Jun 2, 2007, 03:22 PM
Maybe I'm too young, but what's the point of having kids if you don't have to have sex? :confused: Seems like it would take all the fun out of it. :)

Actually, I have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm a 17 year old virgin, so yeah. :rolleyes: