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zimv20
Jun 2, 2007, 01:40 PM
salon (http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/06/01/intel_contractors/)


The U.S. government now outsources a vast portion of its spying operations to private firms -- with zero public accountability.

More than five years into the global "war on terror," spying has become one of the fastest-growing private industries in the United States. The federal government relies more than ever on outsourcing for some of its most sensitive work, though it has kept details about its use of private contractors a closely guarded secret. Intelligence experts, and even the government itself, have warned of a critical lack of oversight for the booming intelligence business.

On May 14, at an industry conference in Colorado sponsored by the Defense Intelligence Agency, the U.S. government revealed for the first time how much of its classified intelligence budget is spent on private contracts: a whopping 70 percent. Based on this year’s estimated budget of at least $48 billion, that would come to at least $34 billion in contracts. The figure was disclosed by Terri Everett, a senior procurement executive in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the agency established by Congress in 2004 to oversee the 16 agencies that make up the U.S. intelligence infrastructure. A copy of Everett's unclassified PowerPoint slide presentation, titled "Procuring the Future" and dated May 25, was obtained by Salon. (It has since become available on the DIA's Web site.) "We can't spy ... If we can't buy!" one of the slides proclaims, underscoring the enormous dependence of U.S. intelligence agencies on private sector contracts.

The DNI figures show that the aggregate number of private contracts awarded by intelligence agencies rose by about 38 percent from the mid-1990s to 2005. But the surge in outsourcing has been far more dramatic measured in dollars: Over the same period of time, the total value of intelligence contracts more than doubled, from about $18 billion in 1995 to about $42 billion in 2005.

"Those numbers are startling," said Steven Aftergood, the director of the Project on Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists and an expert on the U.S. intelligence budget. "They represent a transformation of the Cold War intelligence bureaucracy into something new and different that is literally dominated by contractor interests."

Because of the cloak of secrecy thrown over the intelligence budgets, there is no way for the American public, or even much of Congress, to know how those contractors are getting the money, what they are doing with it, or how effectively they are using it. The explosion in outsourcing has taken place against a backdrop of intelligence failures for which the Bush administration has been hammered by critics, from Saddam Hussein's fictional weapons of mass destruction to abusive interrogations that have involved employees of private contractors operating in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. Aftergood and other experts also warn that the lack of transparency creates conditions ripe for corruption.

Trey Brown, a DNI press officer, told Salon that the 70 percent figure disclosed by Everett refers to everything that U.S. intelligence agencies buy, from pencils to buildings to "whatever devices we use to collect intelligence." Asked how much of the money doled out goes toward big-ticket items like military spy satellites, he replied, "We can't really talk about those kinds of things."

The media has reported on some contracting figures for individual agencies, but never before for the entire U.S. intelligence enterprise. In 2006, the Washington Post reported that a "significant majority" of the employees at two key agencies, the National Counterterrrorism Center and the Pentagon's Counter-Intelligence Field Activity office, were contractors (at CIFA, the number was more than 70 percent). More recently, former officers with the Central Intelligence Agency have said the CIA's workforce is about 60 percent contractors.

But the statistics alone don't even show the degree to which outsourcing has penetrated U.S. intelligence -- many tasks and services once reserved exclusively for government employees are being handled by civilians. For example, private contractors analyze much of the intelligence collected by satellites and low-flying unmanned aerial vehicles, and they write reports that are passed up to the line to high-ranking government officials. They supply and maintain software programs that can manipulate and depict data used to track terrorist suspects, both at home and abroad, and determine what targets to hit in hot spots in Iraq and Afghanistan. Such data is also at the heart of the National Security Agency's massive eavesdropping programs and may be one reason the DNI is pushing Congress to grant immunity to corporations that may have cooperated with the NSA over the past five years. Contractors also provide collaboration tools to help individual agencies communicate with each other, and they supply security tools to protect intelligence networks from outside tampering.

Outsourcing has also spread into the realm of human intelligence. At the CIA, contractors help staff overseas stations and provide disguises used by agents working under cover. According to Robert Baer, the former CIA officer who was the inspiration for the character played by George Clooney in the film "Syriana," a contractor stationed in Iraq even supervises where CIA agents go in Baghdad and whom they meet. "It's a completely different culture from the way the CIA used to be run, when a case officer determined where and when agents would go," he told me in a recent interview. "Everyone I know in the CIA is leaving and going into contracting whether they're retired or not."

The DNI itself has voiced doubts about the efficiency and effectiveness of outsourcing. In a public report released last fall, the agency said the intelligence community increasingly "finds itself in competition with its contractors for our own employees." Faced with arbitrary staffing limits and uncertain funding, the report said, intelligence agencies are forced "to use contractors for work that may be borderline 'inherently governmental'" -- meaning the agencies have no clear idea about what work should remain exclusively inside the government versus work that can be done by civilians working for private firms. The DNI also found that "those same contractors recruit our own employees, already cleared and trained at government expense, and then 'lease' them back to us at considerably greater expense."

A Senate Intelligence Committee report released on Thursday spells out the costs to taxpayers. It estimates that the average annual cost for a government intelligence officer is $126,500, compared to the average $250,000 (including overhead) paid by the government for an intelligence contractor. "Given this cost disparity," the report concluded, "the Committee believes that the Intelligence Community should strive in the long-term to reduce its dependence upon contractors."

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kalisphoenix
Jun 2, 2007, 01:43 PM
Wtf???

Queso
Jun 2, 2007, 01:55 PM
I wonder if Rome went this way before it fell. Every hand in the trough and a huge upswing in paranoia from those in power.

It does make you wonder though. Are we seeing the beginning of the end of the United States? I can't imagine the people in every state feeling the same way about what is happening, and the rift over time could widen until a breaking point is reached. What happens then?

Someone here will likely come back and say the Democrats will turn it back if they win in 2008. I hope so, but has it gone too far?

SMM
Jun 2, 2007, 02:10 PM
I wonder if Rome went this way before it fell. Every hand in the trough and a huge upswing in paranoia from those in power.

It does make you wonder though. Are we seeing the beginning of the end of the United States? I can't imagine the people in every state feeling the same way about what is happening, and the rift over time could widen until a breaking point is reached. What happens then?

Someone here will likely come back and say the Democrats will turn it back if they win in 2008. I hope so, but has it gone too far?

The Roman Legions, once filled by the world's finest army, became largely made up of the people they conquered.

ghall
Jun 2, 2007, 02:54 PM
Wow. Just...wow.

skunk
Jun 2, 2007, 05:03 PM
Just thought I'd toss this into the conversation.Erik Prince (born June 6, 1969 in Holland, Michigan) is the founder and owner of the military support contractor Blackwater USA. A millionaire and former US Navy SEAL, after high school he briefly attended the United States Naval Academy before attending and graduating from Hillsdale College. After college, he earned a commission in the United States Navy after joining in 1992, and served as a Navy SEAL officer on deployments to Haiti, the Middle East and the Mediterranean, including Bosnia. When his father Edgar Prince unexpectedly died in 1995, he ended his Navy service prematurely. After Erik's mother, Elsa Prince, sold the family's automobile parts company, Prince Corporation, for $1.3 billion to Johnson Controls, Inc., Erik moved to Virginia Beach and personally financed the formation of Blackwater USA at the age of 27.
Prince is the brother of Betsy DeVos, a former chairman of the Republican Party of Michigan and wife of former Alticor (Amway) president and Gubernatorial candidate Dick DeVos. Prince's first wife, Joan Nicole Prince, died of cancer in 2003, and he has since remarried and has six children. He now runs Prince Group, Blackwater's parent company, from an office in McLean, Virginia and also serves as a board member of Christian Freedom International, a nonprofit group with a mission of helping "Christians who are persecuted for their faith in Jesus Christ".
Due to its controversial role as an independent, though US-supported, military entity, Blackwater USA and Erik Prince have been the target of several allegations. Among these allegations are claims of unethical hiring practices and war profiteering.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Prince
Looks like you lot are in serious trouble, and, by extension, we are, too. Your warmaking and intelligence are both now largely out of your hands.

xsedrinam
Jun 2, 2007, 07:53 PM
I wonder if Rome went this way before it fell?

The Roman Legions, once filled by the world's finest army, became largely made up of the people they conquered.
Under “Urban Legends” this is a partial quote which has been widely distributed on the “intertubes” since the 2000 elections fiasco. I cannot find an Alexander Tyler (there’s a Tylet) who had tenure as a professor at Edinborough, nor verify the authorship of the quote, though its content does provoke some thought. It reads:

At about the time the original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in the year 1787, Alexander Tyler (a Scottish history professor at The University of Edinborough) had this to say about "The Fall of The Athenian Republic" some 2,000 years prior:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

Admittedly, Snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp) is not regarded as the bastion of dependability for research.

Swarmlord
Jun 3, 2007, 12:01 AM
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"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

Admittedly, Snopes.com (http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp) is not regarded as the bastion of dependability for research.

Now THAT we are well on our way to achieving. Sounds like the platform of a few people I know running for prez the next time around.

leekohler
Jun 3, 2007, 02:23 AM
Now THAT we are well on our way to achieving. Sounds like the platform of a few people I know running for prez the next time around.

Wouldn't that be just about all of them? They're all doing it in some way or another.

MACDRIVE
Jun 3, 2007, 02:38 AM
What if the corporations were to start hiring government officials like the president of the United States for example, would that be called reversed outsourcing? :cool:

skunk
Jun 3, 2007, 04:08 AM
Under “Urban Legends” this is a partial quote which has been widely distributed on the “intertubes” since the 2000 elections fiasco. I cannot find an Alexander Tyler (there’s a Tylet) who had tenure as a professor at Edinborough, nor verify the authorship of the quote, though its content does provoke some thought.It sounds quite provocative, but to how many democracies can you actually apply it? Certainly not to Athens, for a start, and Rome hadn't been a democracy for centuries, if indeed it ever was. Whoever Alexander Tyler may or may not have been, he was a bit of a twat.

Queso
Jun 3, 2007, 04:18 AM
Now THAT we are well on our way to achieving. Sounds like the platform of a few people I know running for prez the next time around.
As opposed to the current bunch, where all the benefits go right into their own thieving pockets?

Remind me what the US budget deficit is again :rolleyes:

solvs
Jun 3, 2007, 07:59 AM
Now THAT we are well on our way to achieving. Sounds like the platform of a few people I know running for prez the next time around.

Like who?

FFTT
Jun 3, 2007, 08:47 AM
Ah yes who will be the next CEO of Fleecetheustaxpayers.gov

Dont Hurt Me
Jun 3, 2007, 10:47 AM
Ah yes who will be the next CEO of Fleecetheustaxpayers.gov
I would agree, the party that runs govt gets to pick and choose laws they will enforce and ones they will ignore, special interests pork they will push and others they will shut down and allways shaft the American tax payer with bloated military projects, billions in a political space program and false wars drummed up for personal reasons. Its time to outlaw all partys and outlaw the bastards known as lobbyist who are destroying our democracy for greedy money hungry draft dodging politicians who arent worth their weight in salt or bird poo.

There was a war between the peoples voice and the politicians purse strings and the people lost. Look at Bush, he thinks we are suppose to follow him when he is suppose to represent us. Corporations own our govt both democrats and republicans. Its discusting to real Americans. The Federal govt is nothing but a big lie paid for by the American taxpayer.

Our own Border is a big example how the corporations own our politicians, drugs,illegals,terrorist walking in everyday during Bushco's war and what have they done? The Federal Govt is a lie, itswhy we need to get the power back to the states.

zimv20
Jul 8, 2007, 09:17 PM
the washpost runs a story about it (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/06/AR2007070601993.html?nav=rss_print/outlook):

Who Runs the CIA? Outsiders for Hire.

Red alert: Our national security is being outsourced.

The most intriguing secrets of the "war on terror" have nothing to do with al-Qaeda and its fellow travelers. They're about the mammoth private spying industry that all but runs U.S. intelligence operations today.

Surprised? No wonder. In April, Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell was poised to publicize a year-long examination of outsourcing by U.S. intelligence agencies. But the report was inexplicably delayed -- and suddenly classified a national secret. What McConnell doesn't want you to know is that the private spy industry has succeeded where no foreign government has: It has penetrated the CIA and is running the show.

Over the past five years (some say almost a decade), there has been a revolution in the intelligence community toward wide-scale outsourcing. Private companies now perform key intelligence-agency functions, to the tune, I'm told, of more than $42 billion a year. Intelligence professionals tell me that more than 50 percent of the National Clandestine Service (NCS) -- the heart, brains and soul of the CIA -- has been outsourced to private firms such as Abraxas, Booz Allen Hamilton, Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.

These firms recruit spies, create non-official cover identities and control the movements of CIA case officers. They also provide case officers and watch officers at crisis centers and regional desk officers who control clandestine operations worldwide. As the Los Angeles Times first reported last October, more than half the workforce in two key CIA stations in the fight against terrorism -- Baghdad and Islamabad, Pakistan -- is made up of industrial contractors, or "green badgers," in CIA parlance.

Intelligence insiders say that entire branches of the NCS have been outsourced to private industry. These branches are still managed by U.S. government employees ("blue badgers") who are accountable to the agency's chain of command. But beneath them, insiders say, is a supervisory structure that's controlled entirely by contractors; in some cases, green badgers are managing green badgers from other corporations.

Sensing problems -- and possibly fearing congressional action -- the CIA recently conducted a hasty review of all of its job classifications to determine which perform "essential government functions" that should not be outsourced. But it's highly doubtful that such a short-term exercise can comprehensively identify the proper "blue/green" mix, especially because contractors' work statements have long been carefully formulated to blur the distinction between approvable and debatable functions.

Although the contracting system is Byzantine, there's no question that the private sector delivers high-quality professional intelligence services. Outsourcing has provided solutions to personnel-management problems that have always plagued the CIA's operations side. Rather than tying agents up in the kind of office politics that government employees have to engage in to advance their careers, outsourcing permits them to focus on what they do best, which boosts morale and performance. Privatization also immediately increased the number of trained, experienced agents in the field after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Even though wide-scale outsourcing may not immediately endanger national security, it's worrisome. The contractors in charge of espionage are still chiefly CIA alumni who have absorbed its public service values. But as the center of gravity shifts from the public sector to the private, more than one independent intelligence firm has developed plans to "raise" succeeding generations of officers within its own training systems. These corporate-grown agents will be inculcated with corporate values and ethics, not those of public service.

And the current piecemeal system has introduced some vulnerabilities. Historically, the system offered members of the intelligence community the kind of stability that ensured that they would keep its secrets. That dynamic is now being eroded. Contracts come and go. So do workforces. The spies of the past came of age professionally in a strong extended family, but the spies of the future will be more like children raised in multiple foster homes -- at risk.

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killr_b
Jul 8, 2007, 09:55 PM
"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

Reads like communist propaganda.
Not calling you a commi propagandist xsedrinam.

If you were an informed American you could avoid this.
If you were an informed American you could vote for people who know to avoid this. You could run for office yourself, like Ron Paul.

For those who want to know where they find crazy people to run A-symmetrical on us, aka terrorists, look at Blackwater USA. They even call Bush "emperor".

Thomas Veil
Jul 9, 2007, 12:15 AM
Large-scale outsourcing of your intelligence work. Well, I can die now -- I've seen it all. :(

Does anybody remember back in, I think, the third year of this grotesque freak show called the Bush administration, that Bush decided to let go or transfer a whole lot of career CIA employees, and replace them with people of his own selection?

At the time, we all thought it was only because the CIA knew where the skeletons were buried re: Iraq. They had the info that proved that Bush & Cheney manipulated the data. Moreover, a number of CIA professionals were grumbling at the way they were used -- in every sense of that word -- by the administration. So they were moved or canned.

Now, apparently, we know that there was a secondary purpose: to bring more of the Bush mafia's private industry friends on board.

It's why I wanna retch every time I hear the dumbbell-in-chief talk about patriotism and duty to country. He doesn't believe in them. Everything in this goddamn country is about money!! :mad:

It makes me sick.

it5five
Jul 9, 2007, 04:07 AM
Reads like communist propaganda.
Not calling you a commi propagandist xsedrinam.

If you were an informed American you could avoid this.
If you were an informed American you could vote for people who know to avoid this. You could run for office yourself, like Ron Paul.

For those who want to know where they find crazy people to run A-symmetrical on us, aka terrorists, look at Blackwater USA. They even call Bush "emperor".

Shut up about Ron Paul. He is exactly the type of candidate that would be in favor of something like this. Forget the government, let private business deal with it. That's what he (and all other libertarians) are like. Corporate run government.

it5five
Jul 9, 2007, 04:10 AM
Everything in this goddamn country is about money!! :mad:

It makes me sick.

Exactly, and that is why nothing will ever change. Nobody can run for office unless they have tens of millions of dollars, and the only way to get that is through corporate donations. This country will never have a President that represents the people; only one that represents corporate interests.

paddy
Jul 9, 2007, 06:07 AM
Exactly, and that is why nothing will ever change. Nobody can run for office unless they have tens of millions of dollars, and the only way to get that is through corporate donations. This country will never have a President that represents the people; only one that represents corporate interests.

It doesn't always have to be a corporation to be the financier. What the US needs is another Joseph P. Kennedy and JFK/Bobby Kennedy combination. Although if the President/would be President could be assassinated by the CIA in the 60's imagine what they could do now.

FFTT
Jul 9, 2007, 06:53 AM
Welcome to the brave new world of black budgets with little or no oversight.

A new world where public employees are immune to the laws of the land,
where there is no paper trail and no one "important" testifies under oath.

A world where the stamp "classified" applies to anything illegal, treasonous or politically embarrassing.

All with an annual budget large enough to buy Apple Computer several times
over.