View Full Version : Dick Cheney Rules
zimv20
Jun 3, 2007, 11:25 PM
nyt op/ed (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/03/opinion/03sun2.html?ex=1338523200&en=c50056805230df94&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss)
Americans are accustomed to Vice President Dick Cheney’s waiting out a terrorist threat in a “secure undisclosed location.” Now it seems that Mr. Cheney wears the cloak of invisibility in secure disclosed locations.
The Associated Press reported that Mr. Cheney’s office ordered the Secret Service last September to destroy all records of visitors to the official vice presidential mansion — right after The Washington Post sued for access to the logs. That move was made in secret, naturally. It came out only because of another lawsuit, filed by a private group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, seeking the names of conservative religious figures who visited the vice president’s residence.
This disdain for accountability is distressing, but not surprising. Mr. Cheney has had it on display from his first days in office, when he refused to name the energy-industry executives who met with him behind closed doors to draft an energy policy.
In a similar way, Mr. Cheney seems unconcerned about little things like checks and balances and traditional American notions of judicial process. At one point, he gave himself the power to selectively declassify documents and selectively leak them to reporters. In a recent commencement address, he declaimed against prisoners who had the gall to “demand the protections of the Geneva Convention and the Constitution of the United States.”
Mr. Cheney is the driving force behind the Bush administration’s theory of the “unitary executive,” which holds that no one, including Congress and the courts, has the power to supervise or regulate the actions of the president. Just as he pays little attention to old-fangled notions of the separation of powers, Mr. Cheney does not overly bother himself about the bright line that should exist between his last job as chief of the energy giant Halliburton and his current one on the public payroll.
From 2001 to 2005, Mr. Cheney received “deferred salary payments” from Halliburton that far exceeded what taxpayers gave him. Mr. Cheney still holds hundreds of thousands of stock options that have ballooned by millions of dollars as Halliburton profited handsomely from the war in Iraq.
Reviewing this record — secrecy, impatience with government regulations, backroom dealings, handsome paydays — it dawned on us that Mr. Cheney is in step with the times. He has privatized the job of vice president of the United States.
regarding his salary and halliburton options, i thought such holdings and payments were illegal. anyone know?
kalisphoenix
Jun 3, 2007, 11:28 PM
I'm infuriated that energy policy is determined through discussions with "energy industry executives" rather than with, you know, scientists.
FFTT
Jun 3, 2007, 11:46 PM
Record profits for the chosen few, yet no record of how they pulled it off.
Why am I not surprised.
LethalWolfe
Jun 4, 2007, 12:08 AM
I'm just waiting for the Constitution's Preamble to be rewritten as well as the end of the Gettysburg Address.
Lethal
obeygiant
Jun 4, 2007, 12:24 AM
I'm just waiting for the Constitution's Preamble to be rewritten as well as the end of the Gettysburg Address.
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1090/1180407832278li7.jpg
xsedrinam
Jun 4, 2007, 12:49 AM
Dick Cheney Blows.
Cassie
Jun 4, 2007, 01:08 AM
Dick Cheney Blows.
You said it.
I'm infuriated that energy policy is determined through discussions with "energy industry executives" rather than with, you know, scientists.
You can go straight down the line. High-level corporate lobbyists are the ones pulling the strings. In fact, I hesitate to classify these individuals as lobbyists, in the classical use of the term. Their is an inner circle of the most unscrupulous men this country has even known. These men are running the show. They are the ones dictating the WH agenda.
GW is a 'made man', and I do not mean that in a mafia sense. He is part of the Texas aristocracy. That means oil and other energy, corporate food production, the military industrial complex and mining. The 'inner circle' do not run for public office. In fact, they try very hard to stay out of the public eye. But, they need front men to hold the public offices. So, they start to 'groom' them early. GW held many positives for them. There were only two negatives; he is not overly bright, and he was a drugging, drunken partier in his younger days.
They could solve the latter. Notice how those stories just disappeared? I wonder how many of GW's old buddies are buried in west Texas sand? They could do much with the smarts. So, they gave him the best PR team available, and an insider (Cheney) to keep GW 'in-line'. I am sure they would have preferred Cheney to be President, but he is unelectable. He looks, and acts like a member of the third reich.
It is my firm belief, Cheney is the man calling the shots. If watch, and listen to him closely, he lets that slip at times. I had a nightmare once. In it, the 'inner-circle' have GW shot. Cheney becomes to new President. He now has dictatorial powers from GW's May 9th decree. Cheney declares martial law after the murder of GW and cancels the election. When Congress objects, he has them disband until the 'emergency' is over. He brings in Blackwater to secure the capitol. Those who continue to object are arrested and sent to Gitmo. With no more habeas corpus, there is no way to appeal the detention. And then........well it was only a dream.
I post many things which I know to be factual. This post is mainly conjecture on my part. Please view it in that light.
yg17
Jun 4, 2007, 02:16 AM
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1090/1180407832278li7.jpg
that photochop > *
solvs
Jun 4, 2007, 04:08 AM
regarding his salary and halliburton options, i thought such holdings and payments were illegal. anyone know?
It used to be. It's supposed to be. Who knows nowadays, almost everything is legal if you're the one who makes the laws. What's funny though is that they still break them.
Well, not funny ha ha... more like funny uh oh.
Swarmlord
Jun 4, 2007, 10:27 AM
<snip>
It is my firm belief, Cheney is the man calling the shots. If watch, and listen to him closely, he lets that slip at times.<snip>
It's called leadership and it's refreshing.
stoid
Jun 4, 2007, 10:51 AM
It's called leadersh*t and it's revolting.
There, fixed it for you.
aquajet
Jun 4, 2007, 10:58 AM
It's called leadership and it's refreshing.
I suppose being pissed on while in anaphylactic shock after being attacked by mutant box jellyfish is refreshing as well...
arkitect
Jun 4, 2007, 10:59 AM
I suppose being pissed on while in anaphylactic shock after being attacked by mutant box jellyfish is refreshing as well...
Very well said! :)
iBlue
Jun 4, 2007, 11:13 AM
http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/1090/1180407832278li7.jpg
that is genius.
and here I am with my lowly cat macro:
http://upload.yo-momma.net/uploads/catmacros/dickcheneycat.gif
Peace
Jun 4, 2007, 11:35 AM
The whole damn administration is "illegal"..What's new ?
Swarmlord
Jun 4, 2007, 11:35 AM
Admit it. You are all upset that Cheney isn't running for president like just about every VP before him.
xsedrinam
Jun 4, 2007, 02:32 PM
It's called leadership and it's refreshing.
He who thinks he or she leads, when no one is following, is only out for a walk.
Leadership is largely determined by influence on the number who follow. Based on that, and the current popularity % toward this present, dangerous administration, Cheney and Co. are only out for a walk.
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then shoot your hunting partner. That's not called leadership, in my book.
leekohler
Jun 4, 2007, 02:37 PM
It's called leadership and it's refreshing.
We're now calliing lying and cronyism "leadership"? We don't even call it that under Richard Daley here in Chicago. We still call it "criminal".
leekohler
Jun 4, 2007, 02:47 PM
Admit it. You are all upset that Cheney isn't running for president like just about every VP before him.
Well, that would be very true indeed! He'd lose no matter who the Democrats nominated. They could run Jimmy Carter again and still win for god's sake.
Swarmlord
Jun 4, 2007, 02:55 PM
Well, that would be very true indeed! He'd lose no matter who the Democrats nominated. They could run Jimmy Carter again and still win for god's sake.
At least we agree that would be the measure of a new low.:)
kainjow
Jun 4, 2007, 02:57 PM
Can't wait until 2008...
mrkramer
Jun 4, 2007, 05:11 PM
Admit it. You are all upset that Cheney isn't running for president like just about every VP before him.
I would not like him to run, but if he did, then whoever the democrats nominate would win for sure.
Dont Hurt Me
Jun 4, 2007, 06:34 PM
Admit it. You are all upset that Cheney isn't running for president like just about every VP before him.You mean draft dodging 3 deferrals Dick Cheney Pretend Hero of the Republican Corporate spin machine? That Cheney? You know the one who just blew his friends face off? The same Cheney who lied many times about WMDs and continues and still says Bin Laden & Saddam were linked when they werent? The same one who had his workers out one of our own CIA agents? The guy who had secret dealings with Oil Executives and let them write our energy policy? That Dick?
He couldnt win a nomination.
solvs
Jun 5, 2007, 02:19 AM
It's called leadership and it's refreshing.
If you call what's going on now leadership, I'd hate to see your version of a cluster****. 9/11, Iraq, Valerie Plame, torture, healthcare, the environment, Katrina, the USAG scandal, Walter Reed, one cluster**** after another. All while blaming someone else for every cluster****. Leadership my ***.
But I forgot, Clinton lied about a bj. :rolleyes:
Admit it. You are all upset that Cheney isn't running for president like just about every VP before him.
I would love for Cheney and his less than 20% approval rating to run. Anyone could run against him and win. Anyone. I'll refrain from the usual jokes about cursing and shooting people in the face because I'd rather focus on the fact that he's a greedy liar who's still going around lying about 9/11 and Iraq.
http://www.thatguitarman.com/images/Cheney-penguin.jpg
yg17
Jun 5, 2007, 02:43 AM
I would love for Cheney and his less than 20% approval rating to run. Anyone could run against him and win. Anyone.
I thought the same thing in 2004 when Bush's approval ratings were headed towards the crapper.
But then we saw how dumb Americans can be.....
solvs
Jun 5, 2007, 03:29 AM
I thought the same thing in 2004 when Bush's approval ratings were headed towards the crapper.
They were still higher than they are now, and far higher than Cheneys. Plus, Kerry kinda sucked. A wet dog could have won against Bush, and Kerry still lost.
Cheney would lose in a heartbeat (edit: no pun intended) though.
Swarmlord
Jun 5, 2007, 09:51 AM
I thought the same thing in 2004 when Bush's approval ratings were headed towards the crapper.
But then we saw how dumb Americans can be.....
I blame public schools.
solvs
Jun 6, 2007, 02:14 AM
I blame public schools.
How do you explain Pat Roberts U?
mactastic
Jun 7, 2007, 04:06 PM
Just wait until Hillary orders records of visitors to the Lincoln bedroom destroyed. Then we'll find out how righties really feel about this issue.
Swarmlord
Jun 7, 2007, 05:17 PM
I heard on the news today that Lynn Cheney is being considered as a replacement for the WY senator that just passed away.
The plot thickens...:cool:
Admit it. You are all upset that Cheney isn't running for president like just about every VP before him.
Cheney could never put himself in a position of unprotected scrutiny. Haliburton alone would sink him.
mactastic
Jun 8, 2007, 11:06 AM
I heard on the news today that Lynn Cheney is being considered as a replacement for the WY senator that just passed away.
The plot thickens...:cool:
Wyoming's process for replacing a politician is much more sane and dignified than South Dakota's.
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