The Jews--God's Chosen People

[GodBless]

This is a continuation of the discussion about the Jews as God's chosen people on this thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=3715573#post3715573). For all continuing discussion on this topic please don't use the other thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=3715573#post3715573)--use this one instead.

[Peterkro]

In the interests of not getting banned I have changed my message to, GO AWAY!

[Silver-Fox]

In the interests of not getting banned I have changed my message to, GO AWAY!

nice one, it would have been worth the ban:cool:

[Queso]

Please stop polluting MR with this nonsense. This is not your personal ministry.

[xUKHCx]

I personally find the idea of chosen people or the correct religion to be idiotic. If there is a god, which I doubt, then they should only care how you have lived your life, not who you worship.

[GodBless]

In the interests of not getting banned I have changed my message to, GO AWAY!Wow--this seems like a touchy issue to you--don't worry I won't bite--I'm here to help you--and more importantly so is God.

[Silver-Fox]

Wow--this seems like a touchy issue to you--don't worry I won't bite--I'm here to help you--and more importantly so is God.

go away seriously no one cares, your just annoying people

[GodBless]

Please stop polluting MR with this nonsense. This is not your personal ministry.Good I'm not alone in this--you posted too.

[stoid]

Please stop polluting MR with this nonsense. This is not your personal ministry.

Apparently, it is. :(

[MovieCutter]

I can't believe in an idea that says "You shall not murder." Exodus 20:13 on one page and says "But bring those enemies of mine who didn't want me to reign over them here, and kill them before me." Luke 19:27 on the other.

PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.
JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

[GodBless]

go away seriously no one cares, your just annoying peopleIf you didn't care you wouldn't have posted--you're part of this too. Plus you came to the religious section so you came to what you asked for. If you are annoyed by then perhaps I can change my approach to cause healing instead of irritation--I am open to good advice on my approach.

[MovieCutter]

Here's a bit of gospel for ya...from MY Lord: George Carlin.


Here is my problem with the ten commandments- why exactly are there 10?

You simply do not need ten. The list of ten commandments was artificially and deliberately inflated to get it up to ten. Here's what happened:

About 5,000 years ago a bunch of religious and political hustlers got together to try to figure out how to control people and keep them in line. They knew people were basically stupid and would believe anything they were told, so they announced that God had given them some commandments, up on a mountain, when no one was around.

Well let me ask you this- when they were making this **** up, why did they pick 10? Why not 9 or 11? I'll tell you why- because 10 sound official. Ten sounds important! Ten is the basis for the decimal system, it's a decade, it's a psychologically satisfying number (the top ten, the ten most wanted, the ten best dressed). So having ten commandments was really a marketing decision! It is clearly a ******** list. It's a political document artificially inflated to sell better. I will now show you how you can reduce the number of commandments and come up with a list that's a little more workable and logical. I am going to use the Roman Catholic version because those were the ones I was taught as a little boy.

Let's start with the first three:

I AM THE LORD THY GOD THOU SHALT NOT HAVE STRANGE GODS BEFORE ME

THOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN VAIN

THOU SHALT KEEP HOLY THE SABBATH

Right off the bat the first three are pure ********. Sabbath day? Lord's name? strange gods? Spooky language! Designed to scare and control primitive people. In no way does superstitious nonsense like this apply to the lives of intelligent civilized humans in the 21st century. So now we're down to 7. Next:

HONOR THY FATHER AND MOTHER

Obedience, respect for authority. Just another name for controlling people. The truth is that obedience and respect shouldn't be automatic. They should be earned and based on the parent's performance. Some parents deserve respect, but most of them don't, period. You're down to six.

Now in the interest of logic, something religion is very uncomfortable with, we're going to jump around the list a little bit.

THOU SHALT NOT STEAL

THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS

Stealing and lying. Well actually, these two both prohibit the same kind of behavior- dishonesty. So you don't really need two you combine them and call the commandment "thou shalt not be dishonest". And suddenly you're down to 5.

And as long as we're combining I have two others that belong together:

THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTRY

THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR'S WIFE

Once again, these two prohibit the same type of behavior. In this case it is marital infidelity. The difference is- coveting takes place in the mind. But I don't think you should outlaw fantasizing about someone else's wife because what is a guy gonna think about when he's waxing his carrot? But, marital infidelity is a good idea so we're gonna keep this one and call it "thou shalt not be unfaithful". And suddenly we're down to four.

But when you think about it, honesty and infidelity are really part of the same overall value so, in truth, you could combine the two honesty commandments with the two fidelity commandments and give them simpler language, positive language instead of negative language and call the whole thing "thou shalt always be honest and faithful" and we're down to 3.

THOU SHALT NOT COVET THY NEIGHBOR"S GOODS

This one is just plain ****in' stupid. Coveting your neighbor's goods is what keeps the economy going! Your neighbor gets a vibrator that plays "o come o ye faithful", and you want one too! Coveting creates jobs, so leave it alone. You throw out coveting and you're down to 2 now- the big honesty and fidelity commandment and the one we haven't talked about yet:

THOU SHALT NOT KILL

Murder. But when you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. More people have been killed in the name of god than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, Cashmire, the Inquisition, the Crusades, and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are, the more they see murder as being negotiable. It depends on who's doin the killin' and who's gettin' killed. So, with all of this in mind, I give you my revised list of the two commandments:

Thou shalt always be honest and faithful to the provider of thy nookie.

&

Thou shalt try real hard not to kill anyone, unless of course they pray to a different invisible man than you.

Two is all you need; Moses could have carried them down the hill in his ****in' pocket. I wouldn't mind those folks in Alabama posting them on the courthouse wall, as long as they provided one additional commandment:

Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself.

[bartelby]

Now, I've been one to have a go at the religious types on MR before. But I have decided to try not to do that any more.
GodBless may have shown us a doorstop of a computer but he's at least he's putting out ideas, and learning new apps. Which is more than some of you have done.

If you don't want to read his thread, then don't read them. You all know what the content is going to be. GB also shifts the religious aspects to the PRSI threads when asked, gladly in most cases.

No, I'm not a convert to religion. I've just decided to try and be more tolerant.

[Queso]

Good I'm not alone in this--you posted too.
Well at least you've done the decent thing and started a thread in the religion forum rather than foisting your delusions of rapture onto those only interested in discussing Apple hardware.

However, in case you didn't get the message from your previous threads the only thing you gain from this constant haranguing of the forums is to turn many against your religion entirely and upset other Christians on this board. If you feel you want to make the world a better place go and volunteer at a homeless shelter or something. They (and most of us) would respect you far more for doing that.

(Just in case a mod clears up the mess left in the referenced thread, this post is in response to a unrequested sermon given by the OP to posters who were previously discussing iMac design ideas)

[MovieCutter]

And a bit more for those in the audience:


When it comes to ********, big-time, major league ********, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest ******** story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good ******** story. Holy ****!

[yg17]

Ladies and gentlemen, fellow worshippers, tonight, I read to you, a passage from the Book of Slayer.

"religion is hate, religion is fear, religion is war!"

Amen :D

[MovieCutter]

Ladies and gentlemen, fellow worshippers, tonight, I read to you, a passage from the Book of Slayer.

"religion is hate, religion is fear, religion is war!"

Amen :D

AMEN!!!

[GodBless]

I can't believe in an idea that says "You shall not murder." Exodus 20:13 on one page and says "But bring those enemies of mine who didn't want me to reign over them here, and kill them before me." Luke 19:27 on the other.


Ecclesiastes 3:1-3 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecc%203:1-3;&version=51;)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecc%203:1-3;&version=51;says the following:

"For everything there is a season,
a time for every activity under heaven.
A time to be born and a time to die.
A time to plant and a time to harvest.
A time to kill and a time to heal.
A time to tear down and a time to build up."
(NLT)

Obviously it wasn't a time to kill when Moses presented his people with the 10 commandments. "Thou shalt not kill" (Exodus 20:13 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ex%2020:13;&version=9;)--KJV) was directed toward preserving the Jews while they were in the wilderness--read Exodus.

[QUOTE=MovieCutter;3715677]PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.
JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.God has friends and enemies--most of all God wants to spare us all but philosophically we have to personally make the decision for ourselves whether or not we want God. Right now we are in a period of grace and if you are reading this messages now God loves you enough to have kept you alive long enough to read it. God could have allowed you to die but He may have kept you alive so that you would be faced with this message.

[yg17]

Oh, and I have to ask, how in the holy hell (no pun intended....i think?) do we go from talking about an iMac concept to Jews? Are we also Apple's chosen people to lead the PC users out of Windowsland?

[Turkish]

Oh, and I have to ask, how in the holy hell (no pun intended....i think?) do we go from talking about an iMac concept to Jews? Are we also Apple's chosen people to lead the PC users out of Windowsland?

That's the root issue.

We were talking about iMac design and GodBless decided to interject his own dogma into the discussion for no real reason. This is the real problem most people have with him - the little off-topic religious quips in his posts outside the PRSI forum.

No one really wants to hear about your personal belief system, but you're bound and determined to save everyone, which bristles most folks.

[Silver-Fox]

That's the root issue.

We were talking about iMac design and GodBless decided to interject his own dogma into the discussion for no real reason. This is the real problem most people have with him - the little off-topic religious quips in his posts outside the PRSI forum.

No one really wants to hear about your personal belief system, but you're bound and determined to save everyone, which bristles most folks.

thank you, i agree

[yg17]

That's the root issue.

We were talking about iMac design and GodBless decided to interject his own dogma into the discussion for no real reason. This is the real problem most people have with him - the little off-topic religious quips in his posts outside the PRSI forum.

No one really wants to hear about your personal belief system, but you're bound and determined to save everyone, which bristles most folks.

lol, yep. I started reading the thread and figured out wtf's going on.

Some people never learn :rolleyes:

[Peterkro]

Anyway to get back on topic,what do you people think Jonathan Ives has up his sleeve for the iMac, a retro model carved out of stone perhaps?

[GodBless]

Oh, and I have to ask, how in the holy hell (no pun intended....i think?) do we go from talking about an iMac concept to Jews? Are we also Apple's chosen people to lead the PC users out of Windowsland?A Jew on the discussion that inspired the beginning of this thread's existence commented about a topic that led me to respectfully remind him that he, along with Albert Einstein, is a part of God's chosen people. Other people started responding so I started this thread to keep the other one on track and to make room for this conversation to continue. Apparently some of the post on the other thread were removed (refer to the moderators note on the bottom of post #212 (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=3715405#post3715405) on the other thread)--the moderator(s) should transfer the deleted posts to this thread but without giving any reasons the moderators haven't.

[Silver-Fox]

because they dont care

[MovieCutter]

[QUOTE=MovieCutter;3715677]I can't believe in an idea that says "You shall not murder." Exodus 20:13 on one page and says "But bring those enemies of mine who didn't want me to reign over them here, and kill them before me." Luke 19:27 on the other.


Ecclesiastes 3:1-3 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecc%203:1-3;&version=51;)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecc%203:1-3;&version=51;says the following:

"For everything there is a season,
a time for every activity under heaven.
A time to be born and a time to die.
A time to plant and a time to harvest.
A time to kill and a time to heal.
A time to tear down and a time to build up."
(NLT)

Obviously it wasn't a time to kill when Moses presented his people with the 10 commandments. "Thou shalt not kill" (Exodus 20:13 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ex%2020:13;&version=9;)--KJV) was directed toward preserving the Jews while they were in the wilderness--read Exodus.

God has friends and enemies--most of all God wants to spare us all but philosophically we have to personally make the decision for ourselves whether or not we want God. Right now we are in a period of grace and if you are reading this messages now God loves you enough to have kept you alive long enough to read it. God could have allowed you to die but He may have kept you alive so that you would be faced with this message.

That's the most cop-out answer I've heard in a while. So if I wanted to kill somebody, it would be their time and God's will? My murderous actions would be controlled by a 'loving" God. So millions and millions of innocent men, women, and children killed in religious wars over the last 5+ thousand years all died because it was "their time" and God WANTED them to die. Millions of CHILDREN dying in Africa because they don't have anything to EAT is God's will? Where's the manna? Where's the food to provide for his children? Oh wait...I forgot. It's "God's will". If that is the way of your God, I'd be disgusted, as a human being, to be associated with him in any figure of the imagination.

You're molding your logic around the situation, trying to get it to fit. It doesn't. Things don't happen for a reason because a bigoted, selfish, vengeful old man living in the sky says so. People...people make it happen. PEOPLE start wars, PEOPLE kill, PEOPLE love, PEOPLE help. My biggest problem with your religion is that it lays the responsibility for someone's actions whether they be good or bad on a non-existant entity. Take responsibility for your own actions and stop using religion as a crutch and a scapegoat.

See, the thing is...I'm freer than you will ever be. I live in THIS life. I fear no deity and I have no deity to try to impress to get into a false sense of this idea of heaven. I have no parental figure from thousands of years ago shaking their finger at me. You're going to spend your entire life living for something that doesn't exist only to get to the end of it and think..."OH SH**". It would have been interesting to be inside Jerry Falwell's head when he died and realized he DOESN'T see God and there is no heaven. The realization of a wasted, intolerant, and bigoted life would be devastating. If that makes you happy though, great. Those of us who don't share your love of fairy tales and fantasy don't like being told what we should do by somebody who is clearly delusional.

[psychofreak]

how in the holy hell (no pun intended....i think?) do we go from talking about an iMac concept to Jews?

Umm...I think its spelt Joos now...

[Turkish]

A Jew on the discussion that inspired the beginning of this thread's existence commented about a topic that led me to respectfully remind him that he, along with Albert Einstein, is a part of God's chosen people

This is why you are having problems.

No one wants to view a normal every day post and have to read your interjected comments on religion. They don't belong in the regular forum.

So stop it. If you can't' control yourself, don't post.

[Silver-Fox]

plus like i said before look at the people you are irritating go find another forum (i mean that in the nicest possible way) about religion, where people will comment back and you wont annoy everyone you come across

[Salasm]

In the interests of not getting banned I have changed my message to, GO AWAY!
u should follow your own advice.

funny. i got month-long ban for using a 2 worded post as well. haha

[Sdashiki]

OMFG, GodBless, GO AWAY!

75850

You really need to stop posting your rhetoric.

You post a thread. Let it go wild. Maybe comment once or twice.

And then never actually respond to any questions you cant answer without contradiction.

75850

You, sir, are wasting everyone's time here every time you hit the keys.

:rolleyes:

7585075850
pps: He's got the eye of the Jew!
ps: if god's one our side, who the hell is on theirs?

[GodBless]

That's the most cop-out answer I've heard in a while. So if I wanted to kill somebody, it would be their time and God's will? My murderous actions would be controlled by a 'loving" God. So millions and millions of innocent men, women, and children killed in religious wars over the last 5+ thousand years all died because it was "their time" and God WANTED them to die. Millions of CHILDREN dying in Africa because they don't have anything to EAT is God's will?God allows people to make poor decisions but those kind of people God doesn't favor. Remember all of our actions will be accounted for on judgement day when God will judge each of us individually. God isn't satisfied with anyone's efforts because we all have sinned against God's laws. Yes even one step to the side means death. The Bible makes it clear that the wages of sin is death. We all die for sinning therefore we all basically commit suicide by sinning--just some of us die sooner than others and some pay higher prices even if they haven't committed as many sins. Sometimes we pay the price of other people's wrongdoings. Like I said before--on judgement day everything will be accounted for and we all will be guilty and we all will deserve death. That's what Jesus is for He makes it possible for our sin to be forgiven if we admit to God that we've sinned (all this takes is a simple prayer) and believe that Jesus paid our price of sin on the cross by dying in our place. God isn't satisfied without our faith. One man (Adam) caused the fall of man by giving us the deadly disease of sin but one man--this time a different man (Jesus) came to take all sin away.

Watch this fascinating production (http://www.thehopeproject.com/) that has 12 chapters and lasts about 80 minutes.


Where's the manna? Where's the food to provide for his children? Oh wait...I forgot. It's "God's will". If that is the way of your God, I'd be disgusted, as a human being, to be associated with him in any figure of the imagination.What you imagine becomes the reality around you--it is not healthy to be separated from God but it is your decision and you are free to decide remember that you can repent anytime you want and surrender to Jesus' safe and satisfying ways.

You're molding your logic around the situation, trying to get it to fit. It doesn't. Things don't happen for a reason because a bigoted, selfish, vengeful old man living in the sky says so.Where were you when God formed the foundation of this world? Where were you when God chose your parents? Where were you when God counted the stars? Can you even count them? Who are you to condemn God when you don't even know everything about Him? God's wrath was satisfied with Jesus. If you want to choose God's judgmental wrath of fire instead of His kind and fulfilling grace then that's your choice but I think you really know deep inside where you'd be better off. Do you want to enjoy spending time with God or do you want to dread time away from Him?

People...people make it happen. PEOPLE start wars, PEOPLE kill, PEOPLE love, PEOPLE help. My biggest problem with your religion is that it lays the responsibility for someone's actions whether they be good or bad on a non-existant entity. Take responsibility for your own actions and stop using religion as a crutch and a scapegoat.God has given us all of us and specifically you and me a lot of responsibility and freedom--let's not abuse it--let's us it for better things. To really succeed we first have to be forgiven so that we can go on without a burden filled heart. An individual's spiritual live is the foundation of his/her physical reality and lifestyle. If you aren't right with God you are going to live making the same mistakes over and over again. God leads us to living clean and responsible lives--we can't do that alone.

[GodBless]

This is why you are having problems.

No one wants to view a normal every day post and have to read your interjected comments on religion. They don't belong in the regular forum.

So stop it. If you can't' control yourself, don't post.Actually the forum participant that I responded to posted about my faith before I responded to the forum participant about Jews being God's chosen people--I complemented the participant since the participant is Jewish but other participants decided to be disrespectful regarding the topic of Jews being God's chosen people. I then decided to help to explain things by posting a little more but quite a lot of people ended up responding and one participant recommended making a new thread that was focused on this topic alone and so I made this thread. That's the history of this thread's origin--a Jew inspired its origin. Jews do many great things since the whole Jewish race is blessed by God.

[MovieCutter]

This isn't a debate, merely another avenue for your preaching. Seriously. I'm just trying to find something other than a "canned" answer!

[MovieCutter]

Actually the forum participant that I responded to posted about my faith before I responded to the forum participant about Jews being God's chosen people--I complemented the participant since the participant is Jewish but other participants decided to be disrespectful regarding the topic of Jews being God's chosen people. I then decided to help to explain things by posting a little more but quite a lot of people ended up responding and one participant recommended making a new thread that was focused on this topic alone and so I made this thread. That's the history of this thread's origin--a Jew inspired its origin. Jews do many great things since the whole Jewish race is blessed by God.

Holocaust, years of oppression and harship is blessed by God? What a bastard.

[Silver-Fox]

@ godbless

why are you here? stop preaching to people seriously!

[Turkish]

I complemented the participant since the participant is Jewish but other participants decided to be disrespectful regarding the topic of Jews being God's chosen people.

It was disrespectful of you to even comment "complement" in the first place.

You just don't get it, I give up. :)

[GodBless]

Holocaust, years of oppression and harship is blessed by God? What a bastard.Haven't you heard that there is an enemy? Haven't you heard of Satan? The Jews have seen more conflict against them than any other group of people and are even at war today but God has still preserved the race. Other races have disappeared off of the face of the Earth who have had less conflict but God has still kept His chosen people alive.

[clevin]

oh, is that why israel being so stupid? (NOTE, I Do NOT regard jewish ppl as stupid, rather, the state of isreal)

Other races have disappeared off of the face of the Earth who have had less conflict but God has still kept His chosen people alive.
sounds like this "GOD" is pretty. mmmm, NOT smart.

Haven't you heard of Satan?
satan is smart, he might seduce jews by claiming himself as "GOD", ( for that matter, christians, muslins, etc, etc)

[GodBless]

@ godbless

why are you here? stop preaching to people seriously!Earlier in this thread I asked for good advice and correction and I said that I was willing to change for the better but apparently you don't have good advice for me in this post of yours. Did it ever occur to you that I am here to preach to you?

[psychofreak]

As a Joo (yes...that is how it is spelt, actually-factually) I hate the idea that 'my people' were chosen by god. I think that idea is racist, and ridiculous...

[geese]

Haven't you heard that there is an enemy? Haven't you heard of Satan? The Jews have seen more conflict against them than any other group of people and are even at war today but God has still preserved the race. Other races have disappeared off of the face of the Earth who have had less conflict but God has still kept His chosen people alive.

But surely by this logic that would make the Aryan race the 'chosen race'? They've not only survived conflicts but thrived and have spread all over the world.

Do you see the comparison i'm making? Making any group of people 'special' is very dangerous.

[Silver-Fox]

Earlier in this thread I asked for good advice and correct and I said that I was willing to change for the better but apparently you don't have good advice for me in this post of yours. Did it ever occur to you that I am here to preach to you?

ok what ever i quit

you obviously not goign to listen anyway as you havent to any one else

[GodBless]

ok what ever i quit

you obviously not goign to listen anywayIf you give me good advice then I will follow it--if you give me bad advice then I won't. Therefore I will most-likely follow what you tell me to do if it's good advice--if it's not good advice you aren't going to turn me into a fool so I won't follow it in that case.

[kalisphoenix]

Haven't you heard that there is an enemy? Haven't you heard of Satan? The Jews have seen more conflict against them than any other group of people and are even at war today but God has still preserved the race. Other races have disappeared off of the face of the Earth who have had less conflict but God has still kept His chosen people alive.

As someone who was raised Jewish, I believe that short people have seen even more conflict and discrimination than t3h J00z. For instance, I was watching an interesting show from some years back (I think it was 20/20) in which three short guys (5'6", 5'3", and 5') were placed in a lineup behind a one-way mirror with men of average and above-average height while women observed them and were asked which ones they would date. All men were of average attractiveness.

You should have seen it! The women would not go out with the short guys. They persisted in wanting to date the taller men even when told that the guy was unemployed for two years, lived in his mother's basement, etc, and that the short guys were chiefs of surgery who had published best-selling novels, were championship skiers, and owned homes in the Alps.

It's terrible, really. Not to mention that short people are deeply-discriminated against in their careers, other personal matters, clothing, and the construction of vehicles. They get no respect. And yet, they persevere in the face of enormous odds. Just the other day I saw a short person. It was amazing. I nearly cried.

[clevin]

If you give me good advice then I will follow it--if you give me bad advice then I won't. Therefore I will most-likely follow what you tell me to do if it's good advice--if it's not good advice you aren't going to turn me into a fool so I won't follow it in that case.

u live in your own world, u judge "good" "bad" all by yourself, even if his advice is superb for all other ppl, its eventually rest on your own judgment that if u want to follow.

So, a good advice here.

STOP being racist, and stop making useless subjective calls about "this is good", "that is bad"

[GodBless]

As someone who was raised Jewish, I believe that short people have seen even more conflict and discrimination than t3h J00z. For instance, I was watching an interesting show from some years back (I think it was 20/20) in which three short guys (5'6", 5'3", and 5') were placed in a lineup behind a one-way mirror with men of average and above-average height while women observed them and were asked which ones they would date. All men were of average attractiveness.

You should have seen it! The women would not go out with the short guys. They persisted in wanting to date the taller men even when told that the guy was unemployed for two years, lived in his mother's basement, etc, and that the short guys were chiefs of surgery who had published best-selling novels, were championship skiers, and owned homes in the Alps.

It's terrible, really. Not to mention that short people are deeply-discriminated against in their careers, other personal matters, clothing, and the construction of vehicles. They get no respect. And yet, they persevere in the face of enormous odds. Just the other day I saw a short person. It was amazing. I nearly cried.It is good to hear that God has blessed you. :)

[psychofreak]

It is good to hear that God has blessed you. :)

Yes, he should be thankful that God made him tall...nothing to do with the fact that he lives in a part of the world where food is not scarce, and healthcare is provided...

You better be talking about height...otherwise what you just wrote was...wait for it...RACIST!

[GodBless]

u live in your own world, u judge "good" "bad" all by yourself, even if his advice is superb for all other ppl, its eventually rest on your own judgment that if u want to follow.

So, a good advice here.

STOP being racist, and stop making useless subjective calls about "this is good", "that is bad"I think someone has to be ignorantly naïve to think that all races are the same. The reality is that every race has its differences. It is only healthy to discuss race--as long as it is a respectful discussion.

[skunk]

If you give me good advice then I will follow itPost evidence to back up your assertions or don't post at all.

[kalisphoenix]

It is good to hear that God has blessed you. :)

Not enough to make me notice it, apparently. I decided there was no God when I was about six and she explained other religions to me.

Mom: "There are also Muslims, and Hindus, and Buddhists--"
Li'l Kalisphoenix: "Wow! Do they all believe in the same God?"
Mom: "No, but --"
Li'l Kalisphoenix: "Which ones are right?"
Mom: "Uh..."

I'd never believed in Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny, so it seemed the next logical step.

Edit: I'm also 5'9", totally average height, and my wife almost didn't date me because she's 5'9" too. So I'm being sardonic ;)

Edit 2: Dammit, I'm Irish-English, not semitic.

[psychofreak]

I think someone has to be ignorantly naïve to think that all races are the same. The reality is that every race has its differences. It is only healthy to discuss race--as long as it is a respectful discussion.

I do not believe all races are the same...but if you are saying he is lucky to be Jewish, then is is less fortunate (i.e. worse) to be Muslim?

[GodBless]

I do not believe all races are the same...but if you are saying he is lucky to be Jewish, then is is less fortunate (i.e. worse) to be Muslim?Muslim is not a type of race. Being a Muslim means that you are part of a deadly and dangerous cult called Islam. Anyone can choose to follow Jesus--Jesus is the Jew that made it possible for everyone in the whole world to find favor with God.

[xUKHCx]

Muslim is not a type of race. Being a Muslim means that you are part of a deadly and dangerous cult called Islam. Anyone can choose to follow Jesus--Jesus is the Jew that made it possible for everyone in the whole world to find favor with God.

You have completely dropped down in my estimate, you are clearly a racist. You need to open your eyes to the world.

Racists are a stain on society.

[atszyman]

Holocaust, years of oppression and harship is blessed by God? What a bastard.

This is my biggest gripe with God these days. His smiting is sloppy and non specific. A few big sinners in NOLA or Southeast Asia? Send a hurricane or tsunami, no protection for the innocents. If I'm going to be wiped out in the natural disaster that is supposed to take my neighbor off this earth because of his sinful ways, where is my incentive to be a better person?

If God could get back to the pillars of salt and/or borrow a page from Zeus and fling lightning bolts at specific people it would give me more incentive, broad smiting suffers from the freeloading problem that plagues communism in practice.

[GodBless]

You have completely dropped down in my estimate, you are clearly a racist. You need to open your eyes to the world.

Racists are a stain on society.I have presented you with the truth and you will choose to believe it or you will choose to not believe it. I recommend believing the truth. I don't care what you think about me anyway--I care what God thinks about me though and I am interested in helping people find God especially those who are hungary for God. My goal is to teach you about God. Over time God will become more of a reality to you if you open your eyes to Him. Don't deny what's there God will always be ready for you to turn to Him. Don't wait to turn to Him because you don't know when you will die--that's when it will be too late.

[kalisphoenix]

You have presented your belief, not the truth.

[yg17]

Haven't you heard that there is an enemy? Haven't you heard of Satan? The Jews have seen more conflict against them than any other group of people and are even at war today but God has still preserved the race. Other races have disappeared off of the face of the Earth who have had less conflict but God has still kept His chosen people alive.


So, if we're gods chosen people, why do people who share beliefs like you tell Jews that they're burning in hell for not accepting jesus? Chosen people indeed :rolleyes:

[Peterkro]

I have presented you with the truth and you will choose to believe it or you will choose to not believe it. I recommend believing the truth. I don't care what you think about me anyway--I care what God thinks about me though and I am interested in helping people find God especially those who are hungary for God. My goal is to teach you about God. Over time God will become more of a reality to you if you open your eyes to Him. Don't deny what's there God will always be ready for you to turn to Him. Don't wait to turn to Him because you don't know when you will die--that's when it will be too late.

Ahh so the Maygars are the chosen people that certainly makes more sense.;)

[Queso]

especially those who are hungary for God.
Maybe I should Czech again? Or would that be Bulgar?

[skunk]

My goal is to teach you about God.You can teach whatever you like as you present some evidence.

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[leekohler]

You have presented your belief, not the truth.

Give up man. Godbless drank the Kool-Aid a long time ago. You can't reason with people who disregard facts.

BTW- any "God" who favors one group of people over all others could never be considered "perfect". Favoritism is hardly a perfect quality.

[WinterMute]

Muslim is not a type of race. Being a Muslim means that you are part of a deadly and dangerous cult called Islam. Anyone can choose to follow Jesus--Jesus is the Jew that made it possible for everyone in the whole world to find favor with God.

I'm sorry, discussing your faith is one thing, preaching is also OK in this forum, cos we can choose to ignore you, but spouting this kind of inflammatory hate on my forum?

I don't think so.

I'm an athiest for the record, I think you're all delusional.

This is so over.