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Cindynjgirl79
Jun 6, 2007, 05:27 PM
So my mom was watching Oprah and saw this guy (http://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/index.html). Who came up with a test to see if you racist. I took the test and i got 27% that i like white people more than african americans. I was kind of shocked because i'm really liberal.



So I know have to know what other people think of this test.
take the test here! (http://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/index.html)



Mac-Addict
Jun 6, 2007, 05:29 PM
Lol you trust a poll to tell you what you are? And how can you be a percentage racist.. you either are or your not.

edit: I just finished the test and apparently I am 27% racist aswel.

zap2
Jun 6, 2007, 05:31 PM
And how can you be a percentage racist.. you either are or your not.

I think it ranges...100% being a KKK member, yell when someone of any othe race walks near you ec, 0% being you never think about race. I'd be suprised if anyone is 0%

Sbrocket
Jun 6, 2007, 05:33 PM
Lol you trust a poll what you know you are? And how can you be a percentage racist.. you either are or your not.

That's so incorrect. Most people have varying degrees of racist tendencies, but that doesn't mean that all people with certain racist tendencies are traditionally recognized as "racist" by society. A good evaluation will identify all of these, some of which are subconscious or taken for societal standards, but I doubt an online test is truly a good measure.

:apple:

devilot
Jun 6, 2007, 05:37 PM
So I know have to know what other people think of this test.
take the test here! (http://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/index.html)This is gonna kill me. I know without a doubt that this has been posted on MR before... and I can't for the life of me find that old thread. Argh! Argh!

Blue Velvet
Jun 6, 2007, 05:38 PM
I can't get that page to load at all.

it5five
Jun 6, 2007, 05:39 PM
I can't get that page to load at all.

me neither.

leekohler
Jun 6, 2007, 05:40 PM
I didn't understand the third part of the test. Were you supposed to classify people's faces as good or bad? :confused: I stopped taking it a that point. I didn't get it.

Cindynjgirl79
Jun 6, 2007, 05:41 PM
I think it ranges...100% being a KKK member, yell when someone of any othe race walks near you ec, 0% being you never think about race. I'd be suprised if anyone is 0%

yeah i think if you get 100% you printer spits out a KKK membership card when your done with the test.

WildCowboy
Jun 6, 2007, 05:42 PM
I came down smack dab in the middle...little to no preference. Interesting little game, somewhat similar in some respects to software I'm developing in my company. I can't get the main project site to load though, so I'd like to know more about the research behind this and how well validated the test his.

Good for discussion purposes at a minimum though.

Cindynjgirl79
Jun 6, 2007, 05:43 PM
I can't get that page to load at all.

sorry wrong link fixed it! try again

jsw
Jun 6, 2007, 05:45 PM
The methodology is, I think, questionable, as one could take it multiple times and get varied results.

Here's my first:

75866

Blue Velvet
Jun 6, 2007, 05:46 PM
sorry wrong link fixed it! try again

Still nothing except a link that flashes. Weird.

Loads perfectly in Firefox, though... Safari, grrr.

Mac-Addict
Jun 6, 2007, 05:48 PM
There was on test on there some where about Sexuality and it uses "Gay words" really I would love to heave what these "Gay words" are...

cycocelica
Jun 6, 2007, 05:49 PM
This doesn't mean you are racist. It just shows you are stereotyping which EVERYONE does.

Link still isn't working for me.

psycoswimmer
Jun 6, 2007, 05:49 PM
I got a moderate preference for whites.

zap2
Jun 6, 2007, 05:51 PM
"Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for European American compared to African American."

That what it says...however I question it. There are 3 black guys in my grade, and I'm really good friends with themall...the black girls not so much. Most of my friends are minorities...not sure why, just happened that way.

Personal I don't care..none of my friends are going to judge any of us on race, so its almos a none issue for me. Sadly not all people are like that

Cindynjgirl79
Jun 6, 2007, 05:52 PM
The methodology is, I think, questionable, as one could take it multiple times and get varied results.

Here's my first:

75866

are they trying to make us feel better? You, my mother and I all got 27? hummmmmm.......is something going on here?

Benjamindaines
Jun 6, 2007, 05:53 PM
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4471/picture1gt5.png

My Results.

jsw
Jun 6, 2007, 05:53 PM
It loads fine for me in Safari.

I have nothing like PithHelmet on... perhaps others do.

As suspected, it is pitifully easy to "game" this. My second, artificial attempt:

75868

juanster
Jun 6, 2007, 05:53 PM
it says i am a racist mofo...part of the 27%...hmmm guess that whta i am.....NOT

jsw
Jun 6, 2007, 05:55 PM
are they trying to make us feel better? You, my mother and I all got 27? hummmmmm.......is something going on here?
They all have 27 at the top. What matters is the title saying "Your data suggest _________ automatic preference for _______ compared to _______."

WildCowboy
Jun 6, 2007, 05:56 PM
are they trying to make us feel better? You, my mother and I all got 27? hummmmmm.......is something going on here?

The "27" is not your score...it's the percentage of test-takers who fall into that group. jsw actually fell into the 4% group on that attempt.

Edit: Or you could just read jsw's post above mine...take your pick.

Cindynjgirl79
Jun 6, 2007, 05:56 PM
more people with 27%? i don't like this anymore!:(

juanster
Jun 6, 2007, 05:59 PM
you are part of the 27% taht has gotten the same as you not that youa re 27 % racist,, 27 of the people thta have take the test prefer white ppl.....i suposedly am one of them...

calculus
Jun 6, 2007, 06:01 PM
So my mom was watching Oprah and saw this guy (http://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/index.html). Who came up with a test to see if you racist. I took the test and i got 27% that i like white people more than african americans. I was kind of shocked because i'm really liberal.



So I know have to know what other people think of this test.
take the test here! (http://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/index.html)

From what I can make out the 27% is not your result but the percentage of all test takers who have that preference. Your own result does not show a percentage but says what kind of preference you have (strong, moderate, slight, little) and for which group ('african' or 'european')

wonga1127
Jun 6, 2007, 06:02 PM
The methodology is, I think, questionable, as one could take it multiple times and get varied results.

Here's my first:

75866
I got exactly the same results.

Cindynjgirl79
Jun 6, 2007, 06:06 PM
From what I can make out the 27% is not your result but the percentage of all test takers who have that preference. Your own result does not show a percentage but says what kind of preference you have (strong, moderate, slight, little) and for which group ('african' or 'european')

ah i see now

Bobdude161
Jun 6, 2007, 06:12 PM
Your data suggest a strong automatic preference for European American compared to African American.

Wow thanks. Sorry for not being stupid in claryifying what words are synonyms and having a good talent for recognizing facial features. :confused:

mrkramer
Jun 6, 2007, 06:19 PM
more people with 27%? i don't like this anymore!:(

it is saying that you are part of 27% of the people who have taken the test, not that you are 27 % racist.

aquajet
Jun 6, 2007, 06:20 PM
I had to turn off "block pop-up windows" in order for it to work in Safari. Maybe that's the trouble?

Cindynjgirl79
Jun 6, 2007, 06:22 PM
I had to turn off "block pop-up windows" in order for it to work in Safari. Maybe that's the trouble?

it worked fine on both safari and foxfire for me

Desertrat
Jun 6, 2007, 06:26 PM
I din't take the test, but I figure I am and probably always will be mildly racist. I figure as long as I don't run my mouth about it and don't embarrass others, it doesn't matter.

Anybody with mutual interests and a reasonable personality is most likely somebody with whom I'll sit around and drink a beer. I don't really worry about color/race/religion/whatever.

Otherwise, courtesy and fair play oughta be good enough for anybody...

:), 'Rat

miloblithe
Jun 6, 2007, 07:56 PM
I think the methodology is crap. I think a lot of people get lower scores associating white with bad and black with good solely because the test associates the categories the other way around first. Also, I don't really think one is mentally associating the categories at all.

I got "Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between European American and African American." though.

yellow
Jun 6, 2007, 08:06 PM
I got "Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between European American and African American." though.

Same here.

kalisphoenix
Jun 6, 2007, 08:09 PM
This is a load of *********.

IJ Reilly
Jun 6, 2007, 08:16 PM
It says I have moderate preference for poodles. Did anyone else get that result?

Ugg
Jun 6, 2007, 08:18 PM
The conclusions are a bunch of bs, but the fact that most white people prefer other white people and blacks prefer blacks is hardly astounding. It's something that's built into us that we prefer what we know. Having a preference does not make us racist.

I would really like to see this done using children's faces or the faces of old people and see if there is any difference in the outcome. The people portrayed were in their 20s and agism was probably more of an issue for most people than skin color.

sikkinixx
Jun 6, 2007, 08:20 PM
I just hate everyone but me :D I kid, I kid.

LethalWolfe
Jun 6, 2007, 08:57 PM
I didn't understand the third part of the test. Were you supposed to classify people's faces as good or bad? :confused: I stopped taking it a that point. I didn't get it.

+1


Lethal

ghall
Jun 6, 2007, 09:09 PM
I guess I'm not racist. I never knew! :D

MacNut
Jun 6, 2007, 09:52 PM
The test was more deceiving then anything else. I think the test is more racist then the people taking it.

yojitani
Jun 6, 2007, 11:18 PM
This is a load of *********.

my sentiments exactly. i hope no one was paid to make this.

- told me I have a strong automatic preference for takoyaki compared to white bread. i can't help it and won't fight it.

obeygiant
Jun 7, 2007, 12:37 AM
Everyone has prejudices, but racism is actually following through on prejudices and hurting others. Is that correct? Otherwise a poll may be good for seeing what shortcomings you may have or at least open your eyes to them. But as someone said earlier, don't let a poll tell you who you are.


edit, that was a huge waist of time..
Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between African American and European American.

KingYaba
Jun 7, 2007, 01:15 AM
I have a moderate preference for white people over black people. I highly doubt this makes me a racist or even a bad person. :rolleyes:

it5five
Jun 7, 2007, 03:28 AM
I think the methodology is crap. I think a lot of people get lower scores associating white with bad and black with good solely because the test associates the categories the other way around first. Also, I don't really think one is mentally associating the categories at all.

I got "Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between European American and African American." though.

That is exactly what I though about when I finished taking the test. I'd like to do it again with the categories switched around the first time and see what I get.

solvs
Jun 7, 2007, 04:35 AM
I'm a big ol' racist. I hate white people. Despite being white myself.

edesignuk
Jun 7, 2007, 07:53 AM
That "test" is complete and utter horse sh**.

Mord
Jun 7, 2007, 07:59 AM
le sigh.


Apparanly I'm a total racist, I never knew, I better tell all my friends to shun me.

ReanimationLP
Jun 7, 2007, 08:02 AM
That "test" is complete and utter horse sh**.

Yeah really.

I got 27% like everyone else it seems.

Eraserhead
Jun 7, 2007, 08:09 AM
I got "moderately prefers European Americans over African Americans".

It's an interesting survey. It's probably because living in a rich part of the UK and going to a high end university I'm not as exposed to different minorities as if I lived in a different part of the UK (unfortunately that is a fact of life, however unfair it might be).

Mord
Jun 7, 2007, 09:10 AM
I got "moderately prefers European Americans over African Americans".

It's an interesting survey. It's probably because living in a rich part of the UK and going to a high end university I'm not as exposed to different minorities as if I lived in a different part of the UK (unfortunately that is a fact of life, however unfair it might be).


I went to a massive london comprehensive school where being white and english put you in a minority, it's hard not to have a little but of subconcious racism with memories of school such as having a random guy punch me square in the forehead having rocks thrown at me and my friends and being strangled in the middle of a science class

It didn't have much to do with race, just statistics. Me Ms Accident Prone was the victim of a few attacks from white students too.

atszyman
Jun 7, 2007, 09:20 AM
I got "moderately prefers European Americans over African Americans".

It's an interesting survey. It's probably because living in a rich part of the UK and going to a high end university I'm not as exposed to different minorities as if I lived in a different part of the UK (unfortunately that is a fact of life, however unfair it might be).

I got the same thing but I think you could probably remove the faces and have rectangular objects and circular objects and people would show a bias. I'm fairly certain that if you simply removed the faces completely you'd find that many people have an easier time associating good/bad words with a particular hand.

Seems that the order you happen to see the faces/words can greatly affect your results as well, if a face happens to be followed by a word that goes on the same side you will react more quickly due to it being the same hand.

tobefirst
Jun 7, 2007, 10:17 AM
I think the methodology is crap. I think a lot of people get lower scores associating white with bad and black with good solely because the test associates the categories the other way around first. Also, I don't really think one is mentally associating the categories at all.

I got "Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between European American and African American." though.

The FAQs (https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/demo/background/faqs.html#faq1) say that they have accounted for this, for what it's worth.



I first heard about this test while reading either Blink (http://www.amazon.com/Blink-Power-Thinking-Without/dp/0316010669/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5131782-6966415?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1181225670&sr=8-1) or The Tipping Point (http://www.amazon.com/Tipping-Point-Little-Things-Difference/dp/0316346624/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5131782-6966415?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1181225689&sr=8-1). I think it was Blink. This is the first time I've taken the test, however. I ended up with a slight preference for whites...which, subconsciously, is probably close to correct.

I also think it's important to note that this is not AT ALL how we'll end up treating people. The human brain is very much able to overcome the implicit associations we all have.

Lyle
Jun 7, 2007, 11:03 AM
It says I have moderate preference for poodles. Did anyone else get that result?White poodles or black poodles?

I first heard about this test while reading either Blink (http://www.amazon.com/Blink-Power-Thinking-Without/dp/0316010669/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5131782-6966415?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1181225670&sr=8-1) or The Tipping Point (http://www.amazon.com/Tipping-Point-Little-Things-Difference/dp/0316346624/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-5131782-6966415?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1181225689&sr=8-1). I think it was Blink.Yeah, he talked about it in Blink.

I didn't take the test because it didn't appear to be working for me and I'm insufficiently motivated to figure out why it's not working. The older I get, the more apparent it becomes that the word "racist" means whatever you want it to mean.

IJ Reilly
Jun 7, 2007, 12:16 PM
White poodles or black poodles?

It didn't say. Maybe that's another test.

Sit. Stay. Good boy!

tobefirst
Jun 7, 2007, 01:09 PM
Yeah, he talked about it in Blink.

Thanks. I thought it was that one.

-::ubermann::-
Jun 9, 2007, 04:12 PM
there is only a tiny number of africans here so i took dark skinned/light skinned test

it showed little of no preference for any, oh yeah im cool :cool:

itcheroni
Jun 9, 2007, 06:10 PM
I don't give this test any creedence either but am I the only who got:

Your data suggest a strong automatic preference for African American compared to European American.

If the data skewed thing because of the orientation of the words and race, wouldn't I also have gotten a preference for Whites?

I am neither White nor Black by the way. I'm Asian and grew up in a predominantly Hispanic and Asian city. I think Caucasians and Blacks comprised less than 10% of my high school, combined. I now live in a predominantly Caucasian part of the country- central Pennsylvania.

The older I get, the more I see how much racism persists and always will.

Brize
Jun 9, 2007, 06:29 PM
Interesting test. Here's my result:

'Your data suggest little to no automatic preference between White People and Black People.'

(The different terminology results from a different localisation.)

Blue Velvet
Jun 9, 2007, 06:42 PM
I gave up on the test the other night, after about 20 seconds. I had work to do, it was late and I couldn't quite follow the instructions.

I know that most people have unconsciously-realised views about these matters, including me, but I've had plenty of very close friends from all kinds of backgrounds, so it's not something I worry about too much on a day-to-day level. London's such a melting-pot, which is why I love it.

My prejudices are more apparent towards those who seek to oppress me, my friends and others like me, by behaviour, thought and language, regardless of ethnicity.

And many black guys are just incredibly hawt. That's my considered and cerebral view... ;)

skunk
Jun 9, 2007, 08:00 PM
And many black guys are just incredibly hawt. That's my considered and cerebral view... ;)Positive discrimination. Disgraceful.


;)

sushi
Jun 9, 2007, 08:17 PM
I'm a big ol' racist. I hate white people. Despite being white myself.
Must be hard to look in the mirror! ;)

Based upon comments in this thread, I suspect the test results.

Haven't taken it yet. May do it if I have time later today.

It says I have moderate preference for poodles. Did anyone else get that result?
Are they French ones? ;)

66217
Jun 10, 2007, 12:05 AM
The African-European test didn't appeared in my list of tests.

But I made the dark-light skinned tests and it told me I have a moderate preference for light skinned people.


It has a lot to do in where you live. In Mexico there is not many black people. And I must say that when I go to the States it feels kind of different when you are with black people. Not different in a racist way, it is only that you are not used to it.

EricNau
Jun 10, 2007, 12:37 AM
This test is biased to prove a bias.

According to it, "Your [my] data suggest a strong automatic preference for Euopean American compared to African American."

In reality, I'm not racist, I'm just stupid. ...Basically, I got confused the first time it incorporated both words and faces, but the second time I had experience from the prior activity and naturally, I did better, thus "proving" a bias in this test's eyes.

The different test results simply reflect the differences in people's ability to catch on quickly, and apparently, I'm oblivious. :o

zac4mac
Jun 10, 2007, 03:27 AM
racism - heavy topic; took the test and got "little to no automatic preference between European American and African American" which is what I'd expect.

I've never been influenced by a person's race, religion,gender,lifestyle preference or country of origin.

All I've ever cared about in a person came from "The Wizard of Oz" - Are you a Good Witch or a Bad Witch?
Approach life like a campsite - leave it better than you found it.

Z

mpw
Jun 10, 2007, 04:09 AM
Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for European American compared to African American and a strong preference for poking sharp sticks in your own eye to French Europeans.

What a load of crap.....except the French thing.

VoodooDaddy
Jun 10, 2007, 08:30 PM
Im not sure exactly how it can show a preference one way or the other. If you correctly answer all the words and pictures, you are just following the instructions they put up and assigning either left or right to whichever pic or word they show.

EricNau
Jun 10, 2007, 09:11 PM
Im not sure exactly how it can show a preference one way or the other. If you correctly answer all the words and pictures, you are just following the instructions they put up and assigning either left or right to whichever pic or word they show.
I think it compares the time and number of mistakes you make during the first test, when compared to the second. In theory, if you were racist, it would be more difficult for you to pair the African American faces with the word "Good" (in the first test) when compared to the second test pairing African Americans to the word "Bad."

...But, like I said earlier, it's also very possible that the tester makes less mistakes and is quicker on the second test simply because they have experience from the first.

EDIT: Interesting enough, I took the tests again to see if the order remained constant, and despite my original thoughts, they were presented in a different order. ...Not sure what this means for my hypothesis.

dogbone
Jun 10, 2007, 09:37 PM
So my mom was watching Oprah...I took the test...

Online tests and Oprah are a deadly mix. As for myself, I hate everyone equally.

itcheroni
Jun 11, 2007, 03:38 PM
This test is biased to prove a bias.

According to it, "Your [my] data suggest a strong automatic preference for Euopean American compared to African American."

In reality, I'm not racist, I'm just stupid. ...Basically, I got confused the first time it incorporated both words and faces, but the second time I had experience from the prior activity and naturally, I did better, thus "proving" a bias in this test's eyes.

The different test results simply reflect the differences in people's ability to catch on quickly, and apparently, I'm oblivious. :o

If that were true, I'd have gotten the same thing. But I had the opposite result.