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swiftaw
Jun 7, 2007, 01:53 PM
Not sure how I feel about this

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/nyregion/07gamer.html?pagewanted=1&ei=5088&en=833116edaad330de&ex=1338868800&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss



twistedlegato
Jun 7, 2007, 01:59 PM
Just saw that on Digg.


I actually dont think it's bad at all because his father is not pushing him.

The kid is also a good school student and drawer and plays the violen. He does tons of normal things for kids his age.

He even says he somtimes gets bored of video games.

swiftaw
Jun 7, 2007, 02:07 PM
What about the fact that some of the games he plays are rated Mature (17+)

atari1356
Jun 7, 2007, 02:07 PM
I was playing games pretty young... but that was when the most violent stuff was QBert, Pac Man and Defender.

I can't imagine letting my 2 year old daughter play Halo or any other violent first person shooter game. The worst she's ever seen is Lego Star Wars II characters shooting... to which she commented "those people aren't being nice" (to which I agreed, and then turned it off).

Dagless
Jun 7, 2007, 02:14 PM
I was a local Turrican speedrunner champion when I was about 7-9 or so. :D

gkarris
Jun 7, 2007, 02:16 PM
What about the fact that some of the games he plays are rated Mature (17+)

Article says that the parental controls are "on"...

atari1356
Jun 7, 2007, 02:23 PM
Article says that the parental controls are "on"...

Unless the parental controls change the game from shooting someone to handing out flowers, that doesn't mean a whole lot.

gkarris
Jun 7, 2007, 02:27 PM
Unless the parental controls change the game from shooting someone to handing out flowers, that doesn't mean a whole lot.


He plays XB360? I think I have a few of those games where you can turn the
"gore" off...

gco212
Jun 7, 2007, 03:14 PM
Meh, he's nine. Let him play violent games. At that point, I was playing Golden Eye pretty frequently, as was just about everyone I know. And not one of us are murders yet! :rolleyes:

SamIchi
Jun 7, 2007, 03:32 PM
Article says that the parental controls are "on"...

I believe that's for when he plays online with other people, he won't hear stupid asses yelling out racials slurs in ignorant manners for no reason.

I don't see anything wrong with playing videogames like that. I know I was like that at his age too (no tournies, but addicted). I probably started as soon as I could pick up a controller. Sure NES didn't have realistic grpahics like the 360, but how realistic can a game like halo be? The parent discussed the difference between reality and fiction. He's 9 now, and the fact that he's still alive with no major limbs missing, he hasn't tried to imitate crazy game moves to the extreme.

He's just a kid doin' what he likes, and he's damn good at it. This whole discerning reality and fiction in kids seems like an overblown topic. As far back as my memory goes, I don't think I've ever thought reality was coming through a screen, movie, tv or videogames. Same thing goes for my brother, and all my cousins. That's just my thought. I think it has to do with the computer age that we've grown up in, we've been constantly exposed to it, but I dunno, I'm not a psychologist or anything.

Dagless
Jun 7, 2007, 03:40 PM
The only time I ever got confused was watching Return to Oz as a child. I was about 5 at the time (good memory :D ) and had to keep looking away from the screen to tell myself it wasn't real.
I grew up on Mortal Kombat 1-3 and I'm a total pacifist.

gkarris
Jun 7, 2007, 04:29 PM
I believe that's for when he plays online with other people, he won't hear stupid asses yelling out racials slurs in ignorant manners for no reason.

I don't see anything wrong with playing videogames like that. I know I was like that at his age too (no tournies, but addicted). I probably started as soon as I could pick up a controller. Sure NES didn't have realistic grpahics like the 360, but how realistic can a game like halo be? The parent discussed the difference between reality and fiction. He's 9 now, and the fact that he's still alive with no major limbs missing, he hasn't tried to imitate crazy game moves to the extreme.

He's just a kid doin' what he likes, and he's damn good at it. This whole discerning reality and fiction in kids seems like an overblown topic. As far back as my memory goes, I don't think I've ever thought reality was coming through a screen, movie, tv or videogames. Same thing goes for my brother, and all my cousins. That's just my thought. I think it has to do with the computer age that we've grown up in, we've been constantly exposed to it, but I dunno, I'm not a psychologist or anything.

Pong wasn't violent (so no violent videogames back then).

But hey, I grew up watching TV - Westerns with people shooting and killing each other. Not to mention Star Trek:TOS where the Red Shirt gets it...

zap2
Jun 7, 2007, 04:33 PM
I think he'll be fine...and damn good vidoe game player. I played Golden Eye on N64 was I was like 7, not as clear as Halo 2, but I was killing humans, vs mostly Aliens and Weird look Men in Halo(some Marine, but not as many humans as Golden Eye has)

That said I still love Pokémon, I'll play that, then RE4. Their games, most wel ground people know that, and he sounds like he knows that.

Chone
Jun 7, 2007, 08:34 PM
If you people are going to be as narrow minded as to think violent games make violent kids then so be it...

Dagless
Jun 7, 2007, 09:05 PM
I'm sure you weren't trying to generalise there, the majority here don't seem to think violent games make for violent kids...

aaron.lee2006
Jun 7, 2007, 09:28 PM
I started playing Half-Life when I was about 8 or 9 (Now almost 16). I'm not some phyco who runs around killing people... Those kids that shoot schools and murder people have serious mental problems prior to those video games.

Chone
Jun 7, 2007, 09:39 PM
I'm sure you weren't trying to generalise there, the majority here don't seem to think violent games make for violent kids...

of course I'm not generalizing, I'm just saying in case for anyone out there who thinks so.

Sick people are sick people, there have been murderers ever since man was given a conscience (spelling?) and that was way before video games even existed... if anything video games can be one of the most enriching (again spelling? english is mad at me today) experiences ever.

TimJim
Jun 7, 2007, 10:01 PM
this story is soooo old
he was on 60 minutes about a year ago

Dagless
Jun 7, 2007, 10:19 PM
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=311591

Set up another thread for the violence/kids topic. It's a good subject that we haven't really spoke about yet. And we should! A nice hot topic that the press are really highlighting at the moment.

charmin
Jun 8, 2007, 03:31 AM
this story is soooo old
he was on 60 minutes about a year ago

Then the thread would have been "8 year old professional gamer". Duh.