View Full Version : Pentagon Confirms It Sought To Build A 'Gay Bomb'
zimv20
Jun 11, 2007, 01:00 AM
link (http://cbs5.com/politics/local_story_159222541.html)
assuming this is even real...
(CBS 5) BERKELEY A Berkeley watchdog organization that tracks military spending said it uncovered a strange U.S. military proposal to create a hormone bomb that could purportedly turn enemy soldiers into homosexuals and make them more interested in sex than fighting.
Pentagon officials on Friday confirmed to CBS 5 that military leaders had considered, and then subsquently rejected, building the so-called "Gay Bomb."
Edward Hammond, of Berkeley's Sunshine Project, had used the Freedom of Information Act to obtain a copy of the proposal from the Air Force's Wright Laboratory in Dayton, Ohio.
As part of a military effort to develop non-lethal weapons, the proposal suggested, "One distasteful but completely non-lethal example would be strong aphrodisiacs, especially if the chemical also caused homosexual behavior."
The documents show the Air Force lab asked for $7.5 million to develop such a chemical weapon.
"The Ohio Air Force lab proposed that a bomb be developed that contained a chemical that would cause enemy soliders to become gay, and to have their units break down because all their soldiers became irresistably attractive to one another," Hammond said after reviwing the documents.
"The notion was that a chemical that would probably be pleasant in the human body in low quantities could be identified, and by virtue of either breathing or having their skin exposed to this chemical, the notion was that soliders would become gay," explained Hammond.
The Pentagon told CBS 5 that the proposal was made by the Air Force in 1994.
"The Department of Defense is committed to identifying, researching and developing non-lethal weapons that will support our men and women in uniform," said a DOD spokesperson, who indicated that the "gay bomb" idea was quickly dismissed.
However, Hammond said the government records he obtained suggest the military gave the plan much stronger consideration than it has acknowledged.
"The truth of the matter is it would have never come to my attention if it was dismissed at the time it was proposed," he said. "In fact, the Pentagon has used it repeatedly and subsequently in an effort to promote non-lethal weapons, and in fact they submitted it to the highest scientific review body in the country for them to consider."
Military officials insisted Friday to CBS 5 that they are not currently working on any such idea and that the past plan was abandoned.
Gay community leaders in California said Friday that they found the notion of a "gay bomb" both offensive and almost laughable at the same time.
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my prediction for its name: the Ayatollah Gay.
samh004
Jun 11, 2007, 01:05 AM
That's great :D
Bearing in mind it was 1994, what did they know back then... can you imagine if they'd gone through with it, who would they of tested it on ?
66217
Jun 11, 2007, 01:07 AM
There must be a million of better ideas to make a non-lethal weapon.
Would it be a temporal effect? And why would this attract you to other men and not women?
Ugg
Jun 11, 2007, 01:25 AM
There are definitely some whackos in the Pentagon, of that I'm now convinced.
Had they gone through with it I'm sure they would have effed it up and instead of killing they would be sodomizing the enemy.
zap2
Jun 11, 2007, 01:28 AM
So the government know that being gay is hormonally based, not a choice?
SMM
Jun 11, 2007, 01:45 AM
So the government know that being gay is hormonally based, not a choice?
Keen observation!
solvs
Jun 11, 2007, 04:36 AM
Doubt it would have helped. Actually, might have made things worse. Look at the ancient Greek and Roman armies.
Queso
Jun 11, 2007, 06:45 AM
So much prejudice and idiotic thinking in one idea. The implications being made....
1) People can be made to instantly change their sexuality
2) Being gay means you're crap at fighting
3) Gays can only ever think about sex
4) Having gays in the Army means discipline breaks down
As the last comment of the quoted section states, it's hilarious but also incredibly offensive. Anyone who seriously proposed something like this should have been committed.
FFTT
Jun 11, 2007, 08:51 AM
As far as non lethal weapons, why the hell haven't they come up with
a simple sleeping compond that just knocks everyone out without hurting
innocents?
dornoforpyros
Jun 11, 2007, 08:54 AM
What the hell is next, a puppys and kittens bomb? It distracts the enemies with cute furry animals?
arkitect
Jun 11, 2007, 08:55 AM
Yeah right! What a load of bull.
So gay men only think of sex?
According to this theory, even when faced with a life threatening situation I'm going to be so atttracted to the guy attacking me that I'd sooner have sex with him? :mad:
It really beggars belief…
I hope the whole story is made up, because if it is true it shows a truly laughable level of "intelligence" in the Pentagon…
Thomas Veil
Jun 11, 2007, 09:18 AM
A gay bomb??? You have got to be kidding me.
Assuming this plan was ever real, I think I found out where these geniuses got their inspiration:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6302068967.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
obeygiant
Jun 11, 2007, 09:28 AM
This is pretty old isnt it? I thought it was just an urban legend back in high school.
Lyle
Jun 11, 2007, 09:29 AM
A gay bomb??? You have got to be kidding me.
Assuming this plan was ever real, I think I found out where these geniuses got their inspiration:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6302068967.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpgThat was the first thing I thought of too, but you beat me to it. I missed it by... that much!
aristobrat
Jun 11, 2007, 09:42 AM
And if this bomb accidentally went off on a US Navy ship, how would you be able to tell? :cool:
Thomas Veil
Jun 11, 2007, 09:54 AM
That was the first thing I thought of too, but you beat me to it.Sorry about that, Lyle! :D
atszyman
Jun 11, 2007, 09:55 AM
3) Gays can only ever think about sex
So gay men only think of sex?
Not that there's any defense for this but the article did note
One distasteful but completely non-lethal example would be strong aphrodisiacs
Now if you're going to make the enemy too horny to fight having them attracted to other men in a majority male military would only help the situation. Of course this could backfire badly when young Lieutenant Hardbody wanders into the enemy encampment where the military used one of these.
A powerful sleeping compound seems like it would be so much more effective and easier to come up with than this. Would you rather deal with an overly horny conscious enemy or a sleeping one?
FFTT
Jun 11, 2007, 10:03 AM
A non lethal sleeping or knockout agent would be perfect in situations where
innocents are being used as human shields.
This would also greatly improve our nation's image on the world stage
showing that we respect human life above all.
Thomas Veil
Jun 11, 2007, 10:16 AM
A non lethal sleeping or knockout agent would be perfect in situations where
innocents are being used as human shields.
This would also greatly improve our nation's image on the world stage
showing that we respect human life above all.I'm on record as being in favor of dumping a Prozac the size of Texas in the water supply of everyone in the Middle East. Too much angry testosterone in that part of the world. :D
Queso
Jun 11, 2007, 10:16 AM
Not that there's any defense for this but the article did note....
I got that, but it was the implication the plan suggested that I was protesting. Almost like some moral majority idiot with his preconceived ideas about "damn homosexuals" had sat down one day and written down a list of his thoughts on how gay men behave, with the aphrodisiacs added to the plan later when someone points out that they need it to be foolproof.
I hope obeygiant is right (yeah, not something I thought I'd ever type either :p) and it's all just made up nonsense.
I'm on record as being in favor of dumping a Prozac the size of Texas in the water supply of everyone in the Middle East. Too much angry testosterone in that part of the world. :D
This from an American??!? :eek:
leekohler
Jun 11, 2007, 10:46 AM
This has already been a theme in a few gay porn films. Hmm...so much for Don't Ask Don't Tell. ;)
TheAnswer
Jun 11, 2007, 11:00 AM
This from an American??!? :eek:
Don't forget, when the President leaves the country, our level of angry testosterone drops considerably. :D
Queso
Jun 11, 2007, 11:06 AM
Don't forget, when the President leaves the country, our level of angry testosterone drops considerably. :D
This is thankfully true. Only 18 months to go and you can all finally chill out.
Our own shyster goes in a couple of weeks too. I think a celebratory flypass by the RAF would be in order, that's if Blair hadn't spent the entire military budget on his megalomaniac missions ;)
Airforce
Jun 11, 2007, 03:27 PM
bwahaha.....That's just great.
mactastic
Jun 11, 2007, 03:53 PM
Would this bomb have the ability to transform fatigues into hot pants?
And would it come with a disco ball and smoke machines? Maybe even a DJ (DJ Bomb?) to set the mood?
leekohler
Jun 11, 2007, 04:07 PM
Would this bomb have the ability to transform fatigues into hot pants?
And would it come with a disco ball and smoke machines? Maybe even a DJ (DJ Bomb?) to set the mood?
Actually, given the military theme, I'm picturing more of a leather scenario- complete with whips, chains, slings, racks and back rooms. :)
mactastic
Jun 11, 2007, 04:12 PM
Actually, given the military theme, I'm picturing more of a leather scenario- complete with whips, chains, slings, racks and back rooms. :)
No, no... you're confusing the gay bomb with the Abu Ghraib bomb.
And instead of "Little Boy" or "Fat Man" the gay bomb will have no last name and simply be known as the "Cher".
leekohler
Jun 11, 2007, 04:13 PM
No, no... you're confusing the gay bomb with the Abu Ghraib bomb.
OK, how about Gay Abu Ghraib Bomb? That's just how I see it playing out. :)
Queso
Jun 11, 2007, 04:44 PM
Actually, given the military theme, I'm picturing more of a leather scenario- complete with whips, chains, slings, racks and back rooms. :)
I suddenly realised what those guys in the Pentagon were fantasising thinking about.
geese
Jun 11, 2007, 05:21 PM
I suddenly realised what those guys in the Pentagon were fantasising thinking about.
I get this disturbing image of 50 year old military generals envisioning a bomb that could turn a demoralised Baghdad into San Fransico during a Mardi Gras!
"WE SHALL SLAY THE AMERICAN CRUSADERS NO MATTER HOW HIGH THEY FLY THEIR JETS - DEATH TO THE INFIDELS!!..... WHATS THIS!?!??!...
K A B O O M ! ! !
oooooowwwwww sailor! look how tight them USAF uniforms are..."
biturbomunkie
Jun 12, 2007, 02:55 AM
bahahahahahaha this is tooooo funny.
Thomas Veil
Jun 12, 2007, 03:39 AM
I dunno...sorta fits, doesn't it?
MACDRIVE
Jun 12, 2007, 05:46 AM
And if this bomb accidentally went off on a US Navy ship, how would you be able to tell? :cool:
Hey, if I'm cooped up on the boat for 6 months at a time and you so happen to be a feminem looking Filipino with little to no body hair. . . you're gettin' it. :D
IJ Reilly
Jun 12, 2007, 11:25 AM
Kurt Vonnegut lives.
As always, the truth is stranger.
adroit
Jun 22, 2007, 11:10 AM
Priceless
http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/06/gay-bomb-the--1.html
http://blog.wired.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/22/gaybomb_poster.jpg
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