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MACDRIVE
Jun 13, 2007, 07:50 AM
BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6733653.stm)

Last Updated: Monday, 11 June 2007, 13:40 GMT 14:40 UK

Killed for loving the wrong man
By Claire Marshall
BBC News

Banaz Mahmod was killed after falling in love with a man her family did not want her to marry.

Her father Mahmod Mahmod, 52, and uncle Ari Mahmod, 50, from Mitcham, London, were convicted of murder on Monday.

Banaz Mahmod was 20 years old, and very much in love, when she was strangled with a bootlace and her body stuffed into a suitcase.

According to the prosecution, Banaz had to pay the "ultimate price" for bringing shame on her Kurdish family.

The court heard that Banaz was murdered at her home in Mitcham in Surrey in January last year.

Four months later, the suitcase containing her body was found buried more than 100 miles (160 km) away, deep beneath the foundations of a house in a Birmingham suburb.

Having left an arranged and unhappy marriage, Banaz had started a relationship with Rhamat Sulemani.

Mr Sulemani, 29, broke down in tears when giving testimony at the trial. He said they had been threatened with death if they carried on seeing each other.

Shown in court was mobile phone footage he had taken of Banaz when she was lying covered in blood in a hospital bed, in what the prosecution alleges was an earlier attempt to murder her.
In Banaz's case, if her boyfriend hadn't reported it, we would never have known that she was missing
Caroline Goode, Chief Investigating Officer

In the grainy recording, she says how fearful she is that father and uncle may be trying to kill her.

The court heard that her father, Mahmod Mahmod and her uncle, Ari Mahmod recruited young men from the Kurdish community to carry out the murder.

According to Victor Temple QC, the family's well-being and standing was at stake. There would be a loss of prestige unless the community saw that they had acted according to the old customs.

Banaz's sister, Bekhal Mahmod, gave evidence in court that their father had also beaten, threatened and called her a whore for becoming too Westernised.

Her uncle had said that she deserved to be "turned to ashes".

Testifying from behind a screen at the Old Bailey, Ms Mahmod said, "I escaped what my sister went through, that's why she's not here".

Jasvinder Sanghera, who runs the Karma Nirvana refuge in Derby, says she is "hugely angry" that Banaz had not been properly assisted by the police when she had gone to them for help.

She called for police officers to be properly trained in matters of honour-based crime.

The Chief Investigating Officer in this case, Caroline Goode, told the BBC: "I do think that we are only scratching the surface of this. One of the difficulties is that these things aren't often reported.

"In Banaz's case, if her boyfriend hadn't reported it, we would never have known that she was missing".



Isn't that the most stupid idiotic thing you've ever heard of? :mad:



devilot
Jun 13, 2007, 07:53 AM
This has been happening for so many years... and unfortunately, it probably will continue on. Similar issue and perhaps more readily found in different media types is "bride burning." Flagged Wiki link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bride_burning). This is an issue that many of us have never heard of-- the second google hit is this (http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9608/18/bride.burn/) CNN article but it's dated 1996!

dogbone
Jun 13, 2007, 08:08 AM
I'm having an online deja vu moment.

Not joking but I'm certain I've seen this same thread with the same topic and same paste by macdrive and the second post answered by devilot some months ago, I had to check the date three times. Spooky.

iBlue
Jun 13, 2007, 08:08 AM
It's a shame that this isn't an uncommon thing. :(

I can relate to family being disapproving of your own choices and even "disowning" (me) but this story appalling on an entirely different level. I can't even begin to understand.

Queso
Jun 13, 2007, 08:18 AM
May she rest in peace, and the men rot behind bars. Just goes to show how warped the human race is to equate murder with honour and liberty with shame.

Seriously, someone start a nuclear war. As a species we don't deserve to live.

Sdashiki
Jun 13, 2007, 08:48 AM
And some extremists wonder why we (the west) think they are nuts?

Equal rights is equal rights.

Right!?

honestly, F-U for trying to get into Heaven this way.

Swarmlord
Jun 13, 2007, 09:21 AM
What they need are honor suicides instead of killing. Under that scenario, if the father can't bear to face his peers because of something his daughter does, he kills himself instead to spare the embarassment. I think this should be promoted widely throughout the Middle East.

takao
Jun 13, 2007, 02:41 PM
actually it's not a islamic concept per se since it also happens in other countries who are not islamic like on the balkan for example or of course brazil or italy

ironically the Sharia doesn't allow a husband to decide such a thing (further evidence that most people don't read their own religious texts ;) ) afaik it actually requires some rather high court etc.
also mr super-dumber-chef of iran Ayatollah Ali Khamenei called it "un-islamic"

also there are quite a few western countries where killing your own wife wasn't really a crime until not so long ago (i'm sure such relicts can be found easily in some obscure state specific law in the US ;) )

Sdashiki
Jun 13, 2007, 03:24 PM
Rule of Thumb!?
Rule of Thumb!!

Up until....my mind is hazy on this Boondock Saints quote...it was legal for men to beat their wives so long as the switch was no wider than the width of his thumb.

cant do much with that can ya? perhaps it should have been around the wrist.

Swarmlord
Jun 13, 2007, 04:00 PM
Rule of Thumb!?
Rule of Thumb!!

Up until....my mind is hazy on this Boondock Saints quote...it was legal for men to beat their wives so long as the switch was no wider than the width of his thumb.

cant do much with that can ya? perhaps it should have been around the wrist.

You haven't seen the size of my thumbs. :eek: