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MacRumors
Jun 14, 2007, 09:51 PM
Vote: Poll: Which of the 10 Leopard features shown do you like most? (http://www.macpolls.com/?poll_id=541)



psycoswimmer
Jun 14, 2007, 10:02 PM
Time Machine. If I could only have one part of Leopard, it would be that. Of course, other people will have different needs, but I would be devastated if my hard drive failed. I really need a good back-up solution.

PlaceofDis
Jun 14, 2007, 10:05 PM
new desktop. things will work very, very good for me with stacks.

ortuno2k
Jun 14, 2007, 10:26 PM
Out of those, Time Machine.
Nothing else catches my attention.

nuckinfutz
Jun 14, 2007, 10:30 PM
It was close.

I chose Quick look because I love the efficiency that it brings but Time Machine was a close second because protecting your data is important.

In all I see that Leopard is going to bring me a lot of efficiencies that are welcomed.

rockosmodurnlif
Jun 14, 2007, 10:30 PM
Quick Look.

Usually when I'm using Finder the document inspector is open so I don't have to open a program to view a file, then i started using MilkyWay which is too coo' for words, it only needs to be able to browse when in full screen.

Oh and the faster Spotlight is a plus too.

tacojohn
Jun 14, 2007, 10:32 PM
I'm looking forward to a lot of the new features, but for me and my job quicklook will make finding older PSDs on our server much easier.

I'm really hoping that my boss decides to deploy leopard client and server quickly- I can imagine searching the server w/ spotlight for a job number, getting almost instant results, and being able to get a full screen preview of the PSDs and word docs quickly.

This is going to make looking for old PSDs to pull referenced elements out of super fast (in theory anyway).

I'm also looking forward to the new GUI things because they look pretty cool, the new finder seems pretty sweet and polished, and who's not going to love time machine?

laprej
Jun 14, 2007, 10:33 PM
Where's ZFS? I voted for Time Machine because it would be trivial to do if ZFS gets incorporated into Leopard. Damn Sun CEO had to open his mouth and get it pulled...

jklps
Jun 14, 2007, 10:34 PM
Spaces is wonderful as I can open EVEN MORE programs at once until my system crashes under the weight:)

Now to get me a new machine:mad:

Rocketman
Jun 14, 2007, 10:46 PM
Time Machine.

I'm not a retard.

Viewing my data at all is a higher priority than seeing it in coverflow view.

By one poll increment.

Rocketman

elppa
Jun 14, 2007, 10:46 PM
Time Machine.

Hopefully Backup I can rely upon.

Backup I don't trust (for good reason) and at the moment I using silver keeper, which is all right, but irritating. I would use SuperDuper, but it wants to erase the contents of the whole of my external hard disk before it backs up.

So yeah, Time Machine, providing it works reliable.

backdraft
Jun 14, 2007, 11:00 PM
Well I like that its 64bit all the way through and stacks.

What I DON'T like:

1. Transparent Menubar (READABILITY TERRIBLE) Tiger Menubar is perfect
2. They chose the iTunes skin (Dark Gray) over the Systems preferences light gray look for the Finder and all windows (look at Path Finder from Cocoatech to see the light gray look). There is a lack of AQUA all around in the Finder buttons which are the flat/gray boring looking ones as well as the flat folders (Compare the Quicktime 7 play button to the iTunes 7 play button; iTunes button is flat/gray and hideous)
3. 3D Slanted Dock. It has to go. Stacks do not need a 3D Dock to work.

The changes were made so that you can view your desktop picture. WTH? If I want to view an image I would open it and view it fullscreen, add it to the screen saver or view a slide show. 90% of the time the user is running an application and not in the Finder! Don't mess up the GUI and make it less readable because of a picture! Not to mention making it hideously more gray and lacking AQUA. Looks as bad as VISTA. Not to mention the reflection in the Dock is a useless waste of CPU/GPU cycles!

obesecat55
Jun 14, 2007, 11:03 PM
Core Animation.

I LIVE for eye candy, so core animation is 4 me. The more fading, strentching and sliding the screen elements do, the better. I love the splayed out stacks and Time Machine interface, as well as the Cover flow view!

:apple: :D ;) :apple: :)

FJ218700
Jun 14, 2007, 11:04 PM
What I DON'T like:

1. Transparent Menubar (READABILITY TERRIBLE) Tiger Menubar is perfect
2. They chose the iTunes skin (Dark Gray) over the Systems preferences light gray look for the Finder and all windows (look at Path Finder from Cocoatech to see the light gray look). There is a lack of AQUA all around in the Finder buttons which are the flat/gray boring looking ones as well as the flat folders (Compare the Quicktime 7 play button to the iTunes 7 play button; iTunes button is flat/gray and hideous)
3. 3D Slanted Dock. It has to go. Stacks do not need a 3D Dock to work.



the opacity of the menu bar is customizable, the dock likely will be too.

drumforfun19
Jun 14, 2007, 11:28 PM
I like for everything to be done more quickly. So I think 64-bit will really appeal to me. Just having everything flow seamlessly would be great.

mduser63
Jun 14, 2007, 11:28 PM
As a developer, Core Animation. As a user, probably Time Machine. (I voted for Core Animation though).

nagromme
Jun 14, 2007, 11:41 PM
Time Machine is a zero-effort life-saver for sure, but invisible in the background. On a daily basis I'll appreciate QuickLook more. Maybe not as much as Exposé, but it sounds like one of those constantly-useful things that you won't want to live without once you're used to it.

czeluff
Jun 14, 2007, 11:44 PM
Without a DOUBT, Quicklook is the most important thing to come to the OS.

Here's my take on it, but it needs some background info:

I used Quicksilver...alot. I abused the heck out of it. Then I realized Spotlight could open the apps and do most of the same stuff, so I have since learned to abuse Spotlight.

Now think about that power of abusing Quicklook. Looking at a photo? Quicklook it. Watching a vid? Quicklook is the answer.

Word, Excel, PDF, you name it; Quicklook will open it INSTANTLY. Why wait to view a file?!?!

Of course, there IS still a purpose for opening the files up within their approriate apps (editing Word files, viewing multiple pics, etc) but once you start using Quicklook once per minute, youll love it.

I know I do. (I received a copy of the Leopard Dev Preview from WWDC and I LOVE it!!!). Haven't setup Time Machine, but i'm going to wipe/reinstall my machine this week so that I have 140gb partitioned for Tiger, 20gb for Leopard. (I "upgraded" to Leopard, and I prefer running in a perfectly stable OS).

cz

samh004
Jun 14, 2007, 11:47 PM
I chose Spaces, simply because I see myself moving to a smaller screen than I am used to and I'll find it useful having the extra virtual screens.

However it was close as the new Finder, with it's improved reliability looks enticing, as do the Stacks on the Desktop.

Time Machine is awesome, but does anyone know if it could be used as a proper backup, if your whole HDD crashed and you needed to restore to another one ?

NewSc2
Jun 14, 2007, 11:51 PM
Don't really care about Time Machine -- I have a very organized backup hard drive, probably a layover from my Windows days.

For me, either 64-bit or Core Animation, and I voted Core Animation. Not that I care for pretty things, I'm just hoping that developers will really utilize it for an easier workflow.

Anonymous Freak
Jun 14, 2007, 11:52 PM
I'll take a feature that hasn't been announced yet. Or, more specifically, one that was, then disappeared: Quick switching between OS X and Boot Camp Windows via Safe Sleep/Hibernate. I *really* hope this makes it into the final.

Of the ten featured items, I personally will like Quick Look the most. I am already a fastidious backer-upper with .Mac Backup, (And both Ghost and GoBack on Windows,) so Time Machine is just a pretty face way of doing what I already do. And other than using Backup as a means of doing a restore after a full system format, I have *NEVER* had the desire to just go back and find one (or even a few) files from a backup. I only delete what I really mean to delete, and I have (knock wood,) never accidentally deleted something I wish I hadn't. (Well, on my Mac, anyway. Way back when a Windows machine was my primary I did.)

Core Animation looks cool, but, again, it's not really a user-level thing. Stacks are nice, but not massively useful to me personally. I tried using various virtual desktop programs in the past, and just never got into them, so Spaces will likely be a bust. The new Finder will probably be the feature that I unknowingly benefit from the most, but mostly due to minor enhancements, not something I'll just go "Oh, yeah, that's great" about. (I can't see Cover Flow being something I use other than as an "ooh ahh" show-off feature.) iChat *MAY* be more useful, as my grandmother just got a new iMac with an iSight (to replace her vintage 2002 iBook,) and switched to DSL a few months ago, so we've been doing some video chatting recently (mostly between my daughter and her, really.) So being able to do slideshows and movies over iChat rather than via my website may have some 'instant gratification' value.

But I still think Quick Look will do the best. I flip between 'viewing' apps all the time, and not having to completely load Excel, Word, QuickTime, and Preview will be a god-sent.

Rocketman
Jun 15, 2007, 12:03 AM
Well I like that its 64bit all the way through and stacks.

What I DON'T like:

1. Transparent Menubar (READABILITY TERRIBLE) Tiger Menubar is perfect
2. They chose the iTunes skin (Dark Gray) over the Systems preferences light gray look for the Finder and all windows (look at Path Finder from Cocoatech to see the light gray look).

Simple question. Why can't they give you whichever appearance you like including Tiger, Aqua, Leopard, Vista, DOS?

Rocketman

siurpeeman
Jun 15, 2007, 01:44 AM
core animation. it provides the eye candy, and you wouldn't have a lot of the other stuff without it. time machine was built with core animation, and i'm guessing quick look and stacks were, too.

dguisinger
Jun 15, 2007, 03:43 AM
I think most people are missing the obvious:
QuickLook is the most important user technology in Leopard. 64-bit is nice, but its not a user technology right now, its a specialized high-end feature that most wont take advantage of.

Why quicklook?
Well, you can view your documents and movies very quickly, thats a plus, but consider:
1) Finder Icon Mode Previews
2) Finder CoverFlow Mode
3) iChat Document Sharing

The APIs will let developers build new kinds of sharing / collaboration tools.

I feel like i'm missing another example....thats ALL based on QuickLook. Microsoft once had QuickView on either 95 or 98...it was similar but it never took off. If Apple pulls this off, this will be huge....imagine if AppleTV gained QuickLook....it could be a remote presentation system.

Anyone know if Mail uses QuickLook on attachments?

dguisinger
Jun 15, 2007, 03:47 AM
core animation. it provides the eye candy, and you wouldn't have a lot of the other stuff without it. time machine was built with core animation, and i'm guessing quick look and stacks were, too.

I'd disagree. Core Animation doesn't provide any functionality to those apps, it just makes them pretty. Though I must admit, I'd rather have a better UI thats easier for the average user to figure out in Time Machine.

QuickLook doesn't so much use it, as coverflow does. But coverflow renders each document using QuickLook, and then uses Core Animation to composite the individual documents onto the screen. They could do it without Core Animation, it would just require more code.

ob81
Jun 15, 2007, 04:52 AM
I like the Desktop the most. One thing that concerns me is that a lot of these features won't be at full potential visually on Macbooks, and 15" Macbook pros.

wrldwzrd89
Jun 15, 2007, 05:59 AM
I like Quick Look the most of the listed features, since I believe it is the one that will get the most use (at least by me). Core Animation is a close second for the very cool possibilities it creates. Time Machine is a distant third... I don't think I'll use it all that much.

Mitthrawnuruodo
Jun 15, 2007, 06:02 AM
I do love the look of the new Finder with the new Desktop and Quick Look, but Time Machine just seems awesome... and potentially much more useful...

Cinematographer
Jun 15, 2007, 06:27 AM
Time Machine has yet to proof that it's useful in an every day enviroment.

How does it handle a full external hard drive? Can you manually erase certain folders? Can you tell the system to automatically erase the oldest stuff? How does it handle multiple hard drives?

I really hope Time Machine is worth all the hype. :)

PlaceofDis
Jun 15, 2007, 06:32 AM
guess i'm one of the few who really doesn't like Time Machine all that much?

pilky
Jun 15, 2007, 06:47 AM
Where's ZFS? I voted for Time Machine because it would be trivial to do if ZFS gets incorporated into Leopard. Damn Sun CEO had to open his mouth and get it pulled...

ZFS is in there as a read only file system (like NTFS). The thing is, completely changing the file system is no easy task. If they were doing that they would have announced it at WWDC 06, because developers would need a lot of time to see how it affects their apps. Then you have the fact that Time Machine is a key feature of Leopard, and it would essentially be limited to just those with ZFS drives. Also, while ZFS is cool, it just isn't read for the main stream yet (it only just got booting support, which isn't even in Solaris yet).

As for what I voted for, Time Machine. Think this is one of the biggest features to hit OS X in quite some time.

elppa
Jun 15, 2007, 07:35 AM
I'd disagree. Core Animation doesn't provide any functionality to those apps, it just makes them pretty.

True, although as you point out this does aid user experience.

Used appropriately it could be very revolutionary and create Mac apps that just look more polished than anything out their on other platforms.

whooleytoo
Jun 15, 2007, 08:11 AM
I'd vote for 11 (or is that 12) a consistent window appearance. Even though it bugs me that they've chosen the dull, gray appearance as standard, so I'll be downloading the first window theming app for Leopard anyhow...

New Desktop? Dock in 3D looks odd on a 2D background & uses too much space, reflections are distracting, Stacks are very useful but why the weird arch? Is horizontal text too easy to read?

New Finder? iTunes as a file browser? Blech.

Quick Look? Good feature, ever since you could preview a lot of files in Column View, I've wondered why they didn't offer something like this. Are QL'ed documents editable? Can you open an editor from the QL window?

64-bit? Irrelevant to me for the immediate future.

Core Animation? A way to build tacky eye candy. Yay..

Boot Camp? Fantastic, though it doesn't feel like a Leopard feature! ;)

Spaces? Very undersold, might be useful but will have to try it out.

Dashboard? I don't use it.

imac/cheese
Jun 15, 2007, 02:29 PM
I really think quicklook will be the one feature I use the most. I see this feature increasing my efficiency and reducing my agravation.

Cindynjgirl79
Jun 15, 2007, 03:03 PM
above all Time Machine. i get rid of things that i wish i had keep. quick look is going to make so many things for me easier. the new iChat just looks really fun, useful not so much.

so Time Machine has got my vote.

mkrishnan
Jun 15, 2007, 03:17 PM
new desktop. things will work very, very good for me with stacks.

Does stacks also fall under new desktop? In terms of new things shown at the WWDC keynote, I also thought that was the most interesting. I think Core Animation has more long term potential, though.

PlaceofDis
Jun 15, 2007, 04:12 PM
Does stacks also fall under new desktop? In terms of new things shown at the WWDC keynote, I also thought that was the most interesting. I think Core Animation has more long term potential, though.

he demoed it under his New Desktop category. :p

valiar
Jun 15, 2007, 07:02 PM
I for one am happy that they have finally Fixed the Funny Finder.

Windows sucks, but one of the things that Microsoft has done right (at least in W2K/XP) is Windows Explorer.

I tis fast, multithreaded, has a very efficient tree view and a consistent UI. did I also mention the "smart" recycle bin that returns the deleted file to its original location if you decide you want it back?

The current reports of the new finder seem very promising. Because current Finder sucks.

I hope Apple will also bring the trash bin to Windows 95 standards :) Yes, that feature was even in Windows 95.

pjarvi
Jun 15, 2007, 07:58 PM
Quite honestly, i'm really excited about the movie widget for the dashboard that connects to Fandango. I watch a lot of movies.

I would like to be enthusiastic about Time Machine, but I really need to get hands-on with it to see if it works reliably.

The rest I don't really care about. I do wish they would make it possible to put the numerical date next to the clock so I wouldn't have to click on it just to see what it is.

anubis
Jun 16, 2007, 12:04 AM
"Stacks" are going to be huge... i think people currently underestimate how powerful, groundbreaking, and useful they will be in everyday computing

Genghis Khan
Jun 16, 2007, 05:49 AM
i love three of the choices equally

64-bit, core ainimation, quicklook

i also like the finder, but that can be bundled with quicklook:p

twdawson
Jun 16, 2007, 07:36 AM
The rest I don't really care about. I do wish they would make it possible to put the numerical date next to the clock so I wouldn't have to click on it just to see what it is.

Do you mean like this.

sonarghost
Jun 16, 2007, 03:15 PM
64 bit.. hopefully a new logic pro around the corner?

Analog Kid
Jun 16, 2007, 04:10 PM
Time machine was my vote.
"Stacks" are going to be huge... i think people currently underestimate how powerful, groundbreaking, and useful they will be in everyday computing
Do stacks work anywhere but the dock?

yamabushi
Jun 16, 2007, 04:23 PM
ZFS! Oh wait...hmm. Well, an updated finder was overdue.

Fairly
Jun 16, 2007, 04:59 PM
It's 64-bit. All the way. I can't believe it gets so few votes. Or for that matter that Time Machine gets so many. Features and features. Cool yes but not revolutionary.

Leopard is probably the first thoroughly 64-bit system to emerge. (It's not the first no matter what Steve Jobs and Apple say. That was the DEC Alpha.) This changes everything. It changes the way programs work. It changes source code. It's a HUGE step.

Time Machine is an application. It's not part of the OS proper. Most of these things aren't. 64-bit is. And none go deeper than that and a move to 64-bit or a move to the double CPU register capacity doesn't happen every day.

It changes the way computers are used. It opens some doors and closes others. It's a watershed.

Is 64-bit great? No one knows. That takes time for the ballots to come in. Is it BIG? Definitely. It's HUGE.

ZFS! Oh wait...hmm. Well, an updated finder was overdue.
Yes and it makes some things easier and it has Cover Flow but I don't think it's revamped or "new" or whatever you want to call it. And I seriously doubt they've gutted the old code and rebuilt it from scratch as they should. I think it will still be the embarrassment and eyesore of the platform - "notorious" as Apple's own HR called it in that recruitment ad.

Foxglove9
Jun 16, 2007, 06:52 PM
Tough choice but I voted for Quick Look. That's going to save me so much time sorting through tiny icons and weird file names.

I have a feeling Time Machine is going to be like what Expose was for me when I first moved to OS X. Didn't think it was anything special until I used it a bit and now I can't live without it.

I'm real excited about the Mail upgrades too.

wmmk
Jun 16, 2007, 11:41 PM
I'd say 64-bit or Time Machine. I have a good backup system set up, but I'm diligent enough about using it. That said, being able to work quickly with RAW files and large film scans in a more timely manner might actually save me more than than having to manually back up photos.

I like the Desktop the most. One thing that concerns me is that a lot of these features won't be at full potential visually on Macbooks, and 15" Macbook pros.

Wait, what? Why is that?

showtime
Jun 17, 2007, 05:25 AM
spaces. Spaces is going to be nice to have when working on the macbook.

meagain
Jun 17, 2007, 12:18 PM
STACKS! But I don't see it on the list so I couldn't vote.

arbroathsmokie
Jun 17, 2007, 01:57 PM
Out of the choice given Time Machine, however stacks for me is a winner, as at the moment I'm using folders in my dock and right clicking it to view what's in it, with that ugly box finish:apple:

Lesser Evets
Jun 17, 2007, 08:49 PM
64-bit.

Step it up, baby, and run fast. The rest is fluff.

Especially time machine. If you have been using computers for a few years you know how to back up your documents and deal with that. Sure, it's good to be lazy, but all it does for me is what I do in 1 second already. I don;t need total recall....so much fluff should be lost if you didn;t value it enough to copy it off or back it up.

Almost everything else is graphics icing.

Evangelion
Jun 18, 2007, 06:20 AM
New Desktop? Dock in 3D looks odd on a 2D background & uses too much space

Um, the new dock doesn't use one bit more space than the old one does.

New Finder? iTunes as a file browser? Blech.

Is browsing for music that much different from browsing for files? And I actually think that Coverflow will come handy with Quicklook. And besides: the biggest changes in the Finder are below the surface.

Cybergypsy
Jun 18, 2007, 10:16 AM
desktop and stacking :)

d.f
Jun 18, 2007, 03:56 PM
i voted quicklook.

if it's not a cpu / gpu hog, it will enable me to keep this compact g4 iBook i dearly love. due to my needs the speed gained in not having to open docs / apps to just check something, will be as much if not more than upgrading to a macbook.

not bad apple.

gbruner
Jun 18, 2007, 04:17 PM
The one thing I was looking forward to is the changes in Mail. Working from home I get my honey-do list by email, and hopefully the new Mail with a to-do list integrated will help keep me organized. I'd love to keep it all in one place.

AdamL
Jun 18, 2007, 08:55 PM
All of them are great. I'm really looking forward to Mail, the new Finder, and Stacks. I can't choose just one.

yetanotherdave
Jun 18, 2007, 09:39 PM
I would love to use iChat, but too many people use windows, and most of my mates use MSN, so I use adium. I don't know many people who use AIM or .Mac messenging.
If iChat had support for more protocols (proper support, not routing MSN through a jabber server) I'd use that definitely.

koobcamuk
Jun 19, 2007, 05:19 AM
Do you mean like this.

Please can you let me know how to do that? I feel like such a n00b but, you know.

I voted desktop for the stacks. There's a whole load of very interesting stuff going on in Leopard. I am genuinely looking forward to it.

spydr
Jun 19, 2007, 07:38 AM
Core Animation.

I LIVE for eye candy, so core animation is 4 me. The more fading, strentching and sliding the screen elements do, the better. I love the splayed out stacks and Time Machine interface, as well as the Cover flow view!

:apple: :D ;) :apple: :)

I am so glad that I am not the only one! Eye candy rules! (with enough hp under the hood)

pdra05
Jun 19, 2007, 08:32 AM
It's gotta be Time Machine, so I wouldn't have to go through the trouble of plugging in my external hard drive twice every week to back-up important stuff from my iMac which is giving me lots of problems at random times these days. :mad:

waterskier2007
Jun 19, 2007, 10:11 AM
new desktop, the look of it is simply amazing, and with stacks, it should be simple and easy to use

Clive At Five
Jun 19, 2007, 01:38 PM
I am so glad that I am not the only one! Eye candy rules! (with enough hp under the hood)

Eye candy is slowly killing my poor 800MHz G4 iMac.

...but how can I not love it?! :D

-Clive

Bad Paper
Jun 19, 2007, 04:03 PM
I'd be curious to hear from someone who voted Dashboard. Why does a movie widget get you all excited?

(I voted Spaces, but I am equally interested in stacks on the dock)

iostream.h
Jun 19, 2007, 04:25 PM
Screen Sharing.

GrueHunter
Jun 19, 2007, 09:53 PM
Time Machine is gunna be sweet. I think stacks/new finder will also kick some serious ass.

-::ubermann::-
Jun 21, 2007, 01:51 PM
stacks probably
then the new finder
anyway leopard doesnt seem to be worthy to me, ill stay with tiger

geoffy
Jun 23, 2007, 05:25 PM
Stacks is amazing. My desktop is so cluttered right now. Icons on top of icons. I always have to open a new finder window to find anything. STACKS will change everything.

Anonymous Freak
Jun 23, 2007, 08:38 PM
I'd be curious to hear from someone who voted Dashboard. Why does a movie widget get you all excited?

(I voted Spaces, but I am equally interested in stacks on the dock)

Dashboard in Leopard also includes Web Clipping. And one thing I'm looking forward to, the fact that each individual Widget will no longer be operating in its own memory-hogging process, they'll be 5 widgets to the process.

geoffy
Jun 26, 2007, 01:41 PM
Dashboard in Leopard also includes Web Clipping. And one thing I'm looking forward to, the fact that each individual Widget will no longer be operating in its own memory-hogging process, they'll be 5 widgets to the process.

This is huge. I hate widgets slowing my system down, when they are supposed to save me time.

drumforfun19
Jun 26, 2007, 02:49 PM
I am so glad that I am not the only one! Eye candy rules! (with enough hp under the hood)

that is really nice. it's one more big thing that seperates OS X from crappy Windows... even vista as improved the looks may be.

yukon0013
Jun 26, 2007, 03:54 PM
I really like the Time Machine and the new desktop..

geoffy
Jun 30, 2007, 03:40 PM
Um, the new dock doesn't use one bit more space than the old one does.



Is browsing for music that much different from browsing for files? And I actually think that Coverflow will come handy with Quicklook. And besides: the biggest changes in the Finder are below the surface.

Coverflow is amazing. It also happen to be the future--and a great one.

whooleytoo
Jun 30, 2007, 05:12 PM
Um, the new dock doesn't use one bit more space than the old one does.

Either the new dock is bigger, or it's the same size but the app icons are smaller - neither is a good development.


Is browsing for music that much different from browsing for files? And I actually think that Coverflow will come handy with Quicklook.

Generally, yes. Because more often than not you browse for music, skipping through your collection until you come across something you'd like - that's the reason Cover Flow was created and it excels at it.

However, you don't often browse for files. You don't flick through your documents folder until you stumble across something you'd like to edit, or skip through your applications folder looking for something you'd love to launch. You know what you want, and you want to find it quickly. For this usage, Cover Flow is very poorly suited.

It's poor because it only (clearly) displays one item at a time. (If you're flicking through text files, then pretty much the only way you'd be able to tell them apart in Cover Flow is by highlighting each one and reading the filename.) Using a scroll thumb/arrows to go quickly to a file is very awkward when you can only see one item at a time - a list view or thumbnail view which shows several items at one is far, far more efficient.

I see Cover Flow in the Finder as something like the slideshow feature, great for browsing through media. When I saw Steve use it as an app launcher, I nearly choked (the RDF must have been off that day).

p.s. I should have said at the top, I'm a software developer and very obsessive about interfaces. So apologies for the rant! ;)


And besides: the biggest changes in the Finder are below the surface.

That I'd definitely agree with. The keynote was disappointing largely because it demoed fluff and skimmed over many of the important features.

JasonMac
Jul 2, 2007, 11:08 PM
I have to say "Time Machine" is gonna be my favorite feature, which will make incremental backups great

elppa
Jul 3, 2007, 04:48 AM
Either the new dock is bigger, or it's the same size but the app icons are smaller - neither is a good development.



Generally, yes. Because more often than not you browse for music, skipping through your collection until you come across something you'd like - that's the reason Cover Flow was created and it excels at it.

However, you don't often browse for files. You don't flick through your documents folder until you stumble across something you'd like to edit, or skip through your applications folder looking for something you'd love to launch. You know what you want, and you want to find it quickly. For this usage, Cover Flow is very poorly suited.

It's poor because it only (clearly) displays one item at a time. (If you're flicking through text files, then pretty much the only way you'd be able to tell them apart in Cover Flow is by highlighting each one and reading the filename.) Using a scroll thumb/arrows to go quickly to a file is very awkward when you can only see one item at a time - a list view or thumbnail view which shows several items at one is far, far more efficient.

I see Cover Flow in the Finder as something like the slideshow feature, great for browsing through media. When I saw Steve use it as an app launcher, I nearly choked (the RDF must have been off that day).

p.s. I should have said at the top, I'm a software developer and very obsessive about interfaces. So apologies for the rant! ;)



That I'd definitely agree with. The keynote was disappointing largely because it demoed fluff and skimmed over many of the important features.

Coverflow is useful for two reasons:

[1] People who don't give there files descriptive names (appreciate software developers wouldn't do this, but others might).
[2] People who want to browse a folder of many images and choose not to use iPhoto, Aperture, Lightroom etc. to manage their digital photography.

Now your turn… Give me two or more uses for the reflective dock!

Spodlude@mac.co
Jul 4, 2007, 04:17 PM
new desktop. things will work very, very good for me with stacks.

I really like the new desktop aswell, im glad apple have finally got rid of brushed metal !

drumforfun19
Jul 5, 2007, 03:00 PM
I really enjoy the whole package all around... MINUS the menu bar, I don't like how it's transparent, but maybe that's just me.

Anyway great changes overall. I did vote 64 bit because I love speed!

iBookG4user
Jul 5, 2007, 03:02 PM
I like quicklook, although I wish there was a keyboard shortcut for it.

Wayfarer
Jul 5, 2007, 03:06 PM
I found everything appealing. :)

wrldwzrd89
Jul 5, 2007, 03:20 PM
I like quicklook, although I wish there was a keyboard shortcut for it.
Shouldn't be a problem to make your own. After all, QuickLook, like many of Leopard's features, will be available as an "Application" in the dock, which can be invoked using the existing keyboard shortcut mapper functionality in Mac OS X. :D

einsteinium
Jul 7, 2007, 09:48 PM
i spend a lot of time in mail while at work. any improvements that help me GTD are greatly appreciated.

thesdx
Jul 12, 2007, 07:21 PM
I like quicklook, although I wish there was a keyboard shortcut for it.

Actually, there is a keyboard shortcut. Just tap the space bar. They mention it in the demo videos on Apple's page.

My favorite feature is probably Time Machine. It's useless without an external drive, but something tells me the new iMacs may enclose a special drive for Time Machine. After all, SJ said that the goal of Time Machine was to make it "Easy for everyone to back up their stuff". It wouldn't be so easy if you didn't already have an external drive.

Multimedia
Jul 12, 2007, 07:22 PM
64-bit

Vidd
Jul 12, 2007, 07:39 PM
Coverflow for image files seems like a nice idea.
Even if it isn't terribly quick, it's still a pleasant option.