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MacRumors
Jul 7, 2003, 12:33 AM
Early screenshots of the upcoming Photoshop 8 appeared on FunMac (http://www.funmac.com/showthread.php?threadid=1978) (still up) on June 20th. Appleinsider subsequently (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=118) posted their own report -- but has had their images removed at the demand of Adobe Legal.

In case you missed it, some different shots (http://www.macmerc.com/photoshop_8/) have been posted on MacMerc.



gregnacu
Jul 7, 2003, 12:40 AM
I think it would be great if Photoshop 8 was available for Mac before Windows. What are the chances of this?

rockman2023
Jul 7, 2003, 12:45 AM
Who knows, but PS7 still serves us well.
I really like the new Filter Gallery - being able to apply different filters and hide it's effect like the Layers pallete. NICE! :D

markiv810
Jul 7, 2003, 12:52 AM
Photoshop 8.0 in my opinion is one step closer to being a true Mac OS X application, Photoshop 7.0 somehow had the look and feel of OS 9 application.

acj
Jul 7, 2003, 01:01 AM
Like the filter implimentation, like the pixel aspect chooser. Finally can make DVD menu's in photoshop look right easy!

Will it bring all features to 16 bit editing? I hope so.

jbomber
Jul 7, 2003, 01:04 AM
7 is/was great. my only complaint was how much of a beast it was where memory is concerned. it's understandable considering how extensive an app it is.

my only hope is that they don't go switching around the key-commands for no good reason like they did a while back.

gregnacu
Jul 7, 2003, 01:30 AM
Funny, I first asked, will PhotoShop 8 come for Mac before windows... Wouldn't it be fantastic if 8 was 64bit AND only for Mac! How long before 64bit PC's are available to the common man?

ZildjianKX
Jul 7, 2003, 01:30 AM
What is PS8's release date?

sweetaction
Jul 7, 2003, 01:37 AM
that palette menu with the filters is so nice. I forget what they are called but know what I want the results to be. very nice.

jazzman45
Jul 7, 2003, 01:41 AM
does anyone know if 64-bit optimizations will help much for photoshop?

also, i thought that photoshop 7 was too much like 6, at least on the windows side. and now 8 looks to be very similiar, too. on the mac side of things i understand that there has been a lot of development to make it truly native on OS X, but i feel bad for windows users because someone out there is shelling out hard earned cash for a healing brush and better history brush. I just wish that they could do more minor revision releases as these last two updates seem to be just that...updates and not a major enhancement over the predecessor.

-tyler

BaghdadBob
Jul 7, 2003, 01:43 AM
You know, I was bery close to buying one of the Adobe Suites about a year ago, but I'm really glad I didn't in retrospect, because if I can hold off until I can get a new G5, the Adobe suite should be at least somewhat optimized for it by then. It'll be a whole new world..."shining, shimmering, splendid...tell me, princess, now when did you last let your heart be free?"

Ok, no more Disney movies for me...

nickmcghie
Jul 7, 2003, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by gregnacu
Funny, I first asked, will PhotoShop 8 come for Mac before windows... Wouldn't it be fantastic if 8 was 64bit AND only for Mac! How long before 64bit PC's are available to the common man?

The 64-bit Athlon may come out as soon as August, and possibily before the G5 even ships.

stingerman
Jul 7, 2003, 02:04 AM
I still am hanging on to PS 6 in Classic on OS X 10.2.6. It works great and I still do not see much of a reason to upgrade to 7. Maybe 8 will be worth it along with a G5, since adobe promised a G5 plugin.

The biggest advantage to Photoshop in the G5 is the tremendous bandwidth of all the parts. That Nemo demo at the Keynote was more a testament to the G5's overall architecture including the superfast mesh-switched hypertransport bus coupled with 1GHZ FSB. Sure the G5's higher clock, high instruction level parallelism, super-scalar, super SMP, unhandcuffed SIMD unit, copper wired silicon on insulator supercomputer derived chip helped ;)

stingerman
Jul 7, 2003, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by nickmcghie
The 64-bit Athlon may come out as soon as August, and possibily before the G5 even ships.

It will be announced in August, maybe even July 28, but the Athlon 64 will not ship before the fall. The first G5's will beat it and will probably be the first part of August.

An early prototype of an Athlon 64 was shown a few weeks ago at a gamers convention and it still has a way to go. Take a look at tomshardware.com

Freg3000
Jul 7, 2003, 02:20 AM
I saw most of those splash screens and folders about a week or two ago. The actual windows are new, but not all of it. A beta version of Photoshop can easily be downloaded from Carracho.

As to when it will be out, I think I remember reading that it might be around October, but that may have just been a rumor.

Longey Nowze
Jul 7, 2003, 03:29 AM
I read a while back I think it was an article on mac central, it was about photoshop 8, they said it was going to have more feature of digital photography, and that Adobe will be cleaning up the code too on both mac and windows, to me that sounds really good, PS needs a some cleaning! hopefully it'll be a bit smaller and less memory hogging, and a lot faster.

THANK YOU
MaT

hvfsl
Jul 7, 2003, 03:46 AM
If Adobe care about the Mac platform, they will release PhotoShop for the Mac first since the majority of (legal) users are on the Mac. Last time a look it was 70% Mac. Although if you take into acount illegal copies then more people use PhotoShop on the PC than there are Macs on the planet. I hope this means there will be a new version of PhotoShop Elements that is 64bit aware.

mangoduck
Jul 7, 2003, 03:53 AM
i'd like to see photoshop more closely match some of the features in after effects, namely the live layered filters and pixel aspect ratios. looks like they're starting to agree. ae is basically ps + a timeline - brushes, so it's always been strange to me that the two don't have more in common.

i would hope adobe has more up their sleeve than revamped filters, better file browsing and 64bit support. i know it sounds like a lot, but is it worth a full version number? with the number comes the price... but then the move from version 6 to 7 wasn't too impressive (the big thing there being carbon).

also, does this gel with the other thread (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30190) that had shots?

maczero
Jul 7, 2003, 04:45 AM
B.S. I have screen-shots of this exact build back on June 22nd on my site Apple-X.net. So :p

http://www.apple-x.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=367
(you may need to copy and pate the url since it has a ? mark in it)


--Trent
CEO of MacZero and the Apple-X Network

mum
Jul 7, 2003, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by hvfsl
the majority of (legal) users are on the Mac. Last time a look it was 70% Mac.

Would you have a link to this info somewhere? Thx

YWN
Jul 7, 2003, 05:26 AM
PS 8 feels somewhat faster in usage. But at first sight, it didn't look and works all that diffirent then PS 7, not a really heavy PS user, just some photo editing and making Web Designs.

I like the Filter stuff a lot though! But I really don't see a lot of diffirence with PS 7...

rtdunham
Jul 7, 2003, 08:40 AM
the browser features ID'd in the screen grab (rotate, batch mode, etc) already exist in PS7. Just click on the arrow-in-a-circle upper right in the browser window.

The keyword feature may be new, i don't know about it.

zoozx
Jul 7, 2003, 09:40 AM
Same old borring filters in 8 that have not been upgraded in 10 years.
Can we get a real cloud filter someday?

panyoshiba
Jul 7, 2003, 09:43 AM
Isn't he the guy who made Knoll lighting Effects? I love that filter and if they include it in new PS that would be cool!!

j33pd0g
Jul 7, 2003, 10:14 AM
Photoshop 8! :rolleyes: Photoshop will never be the same until they can give me the "options" window the way it used to be - like it was in 5.0, 5.5 - that long options bar takes up to much screen space... it's bad enough that you have the dock popping up every once in a while... sure you can make that options bar short or tuck it away... but why... that's just more work you have to do later to make little tweaks here or there...
I gave it a try (a whole 2 years), back in 6, and then again in OS X. It looks nice... runs well... doesn't crash... I just can't get over that options bar... I need my window tab... is there a 3rd party fix for this...

acj
Jul 7, 2003, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by stingerman
It will be announced in August, maybe even July 28, but the Athlon 64 will not ship before the fall. The first G5's will beat it and will probably be the first part of August.

An early prototype of an Athlon 64 was shown a few weeks ago at a gamers convention and it still has a way to go. Take a look at tomshardware.com

That was the MOBILE Athlon 64, demonstrated in a working laptop. The desktop version was shown some time ago.

[Edit] the desktop version was shown around Feb 2002. Both the desktop and mobile versions are expected to ship this year.

Of course they are suposed to ship "any time now." Could be kind of like how they say Fusion power technology is just a few years off. Only problem is it has been for decades.

crees!
Jul 7, 2003, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by hvfsl
If Adobe care about the Mac platform, they will release PhotoShop for the Mac first since the majority of (legal) users are on the Mac. Last time a look it was 70% Mac. Although if you take into acount illegal copies then more people use PhotoShop on the PC than there are Macs on the planet. I hope this means there will be a new version of PhotoShop Elements that is 64bit aware.

I'd be damned if I was caught with a legal copy of Photoshop or anything else on my Windows peecee. It doesn't deserve it.

ennerseed
Jul 7, 2003, 11:00 AM
Can Photoshop do multitasking? i.e. can you be filtering (like gaussian blur on one large image), while moving objects on another... does it use sheets? ect.

MacManDan
Jul 7, 2003, 12:59 PM
I was considering getting PS 7 .. and I'm actually close to the purchase .. but does this mean wait for PS 8? How much longer until it comes out? I will reiterate a question posted earlier: when is the expected release date?

Rustus Maximus
Jul 7, 2003, 12:59 PM
Sooo...will PS8 have any optimization for 64bits or no? Or is that what the G5 plugin is? The G5 won't be able to take full advantage of its "64bitness" until Panther comes out anyway, right? So the hardware race with AMD is a little irrelevant given how close they may release to each other. What is relevant is the fact that Windoze is NOT ready for the Big 64bit Game (Moooo, cow...MOOOOOOOO...)

Panther IS ready.

Let the games begin!

macdong
Jul 7, 2003, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Rustus Maximus
MOOOOOOOO...)

a cow!! kill it!!

A za!! Kin!! kin kin kin!!! Ka Boom~~~!!!


sorry, guess i played too much diablo 2 :p

MacCoaster
Jul 7, 2003, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Rustus Maximus
What is relevant is the fact that Windoze is NOT ready for the Big 64bit Game
Windows isn't? Really? Have you seen 64bit Windows 2000? 64bit Windows XP? 64bit Windows Server 2003? :rolleyes:

e-coli
Jul 7, 2003, 03:09 PM
Finally. D1 pixels for broadcast.
Super nice.

I wonder if this means more video goodies?

Rustus Maximus
Jul 7, 2003, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by MacCoaster
Windows isn't? Really? Have you seen 64bit Windows 2000? 64bit Windows XP? 64bit Windows Server 2003? :rolleyes:
Have you seen or used (shiver) 32bit Windoze?

And you think they're ready for 64bit? :rolleyes:

Muhahahahahahaha...toooooo funny...

Moooo cow...MOOOOOOO...

(edited to add quote)

gothamac
Jul 7, 2003, 03:16 PM
Has anyone else here gotten spam offering Photoshop 7 full release for $49? I get these all the time, and because I'm still using PS5, I'm tempted to get it. It just doesn't seem like It could be possible, and I'm worried it's a scam. Anyone?

MacCoaster
Jul 7, 2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Rustus Maximus
Have you seen or used (shiver) 32bit Windoze?

And you think they're ready for 64bit? :rolleyes:

Muhahahahahahaha...toooooo funny...

Moooo cow...MOOOOOOO...

(edited to add quote)
Yes, in fact, Windows is my primary development workstation, along with Linux--dual booting on my Athlon, doing various projects. I've yet to get a modern Mac, but planning on a nice PowerBook soon, hopefully.

Microsoft isn't just ready for 64 bit, they are ALREADY doing 64 bit.

daveL
Jul 7, 2003, 06:44 PM
Anybody notice this:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nf/20030707/bs_nf/21857

This is slightly off topic, but Adobe is not going to release a Mac version of the next Premier Pro release; it will be WinDoze only. The same goes for a new audio editing app called Audition. It appears that Adobe is only going to support the Mac in areas where there is no direct competition from Apple apps.

BaghdadBob
Jul 7, 2003, 08:49 PM
Yeah, there's a thread on this. Main page. Check it, yo.

Jerry Spoon
Jul 7, 2003, 11:21 PM
As a casual user of PS, I don't know if there's enough there for me to upgrade right away. I did upgrade to PS7 immediately so I could use it in osx and because some of the new features. Maybe if it is really faster that will prompt me to make my purchase faster.

nuckinfutz
Jul 7, 2003, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by daveL
Anybody notice this:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nf/20030707/bs_nf/21857

This is slightly off topic, but Adobe is not going to release a Mac version of the next Premier Pro release; it will be WinDoze only. The same goes for a new audio editing app called Audition. It appears that Adobe is only going to support the Mac in areas where there is no direct competition from Apple apps.

1. Premiere sucked even before Final Cut Pro came out

2. Audition is most likely based on Adobes aquisition of Syntriullium Software which was PC only anywas.

Photoshop 8 sounds interesting but isn't it a little odd that Adobe is moving to "8" and not "7.5". Lately their updates have been functional but seemingly small overall.

SilvorX
Jul 7, 2003, 11:46 PM
adobe forced funmac.com to take down their screenshots :(

mac15
Jul 8, 2003, 03:43 AM
its a pity, may our next endevour be twice as fun :)