Leopard and G4 processor

[dentedG4]

I have an original 12 inch g4 powerbook (866 w/ 1.12 gb). Will my powerbook support all of the new features of leopard and what effect on performance will the upgrade have? I am concerned that being 32 bit and a slower processor, my G4 will have a hard time keeping up.

[GimmeSlack12]

The eye candy will be noticeably slower, but overall you shouldn't be worried about the G4. And the 32 bit thing is not an issue, its not 32 or 64, its 32 and 64, so don't sweat it.

Plenty of RAM will be about all you can do to make sure it is as smooth as possible.

[kuebby]

Because they have a more unified computer base (Apple only makes the OS for Apple computers) the OS will work much better with older hardware. G4s will be officially supported by Apple in Leopard. Don't worry, you won't get left behind, yet.

[Taylor C]

G3s are the only processors that aren't being supported. G4s and G5s are fine. You won't get some of the added bonuses, as others have stated, but you shouldn't have any problems.

[dmw007]

Your 867MHz PowerBook G4 should be fine for running Leopard. :)

[drumpat01]

how about my 1.33ghz G4 iBook with 1gig of ram? I think i should be ok. It was the very last iBook revision before the MacBook came out and made my poor 12" baby look like poopy.

[otis123]

how about my 1.33ghz G4 iBook with 1gig of ram? I think i should be ok. It was the very last iBook revision before the MacBook came out and made my poor 12" baby look like poopy.

i got the same but with 1.5GB of RAM, Will the GPU run all the eye candy?

[flopticalcube]

Should be fine. G4 + firewire is the minimum spec.

[otis123]

Should be fine. G4 + firewire is the minimum spec.

i read on apple's website that even G3s are supported, but that was a wile ago

[flopticalcube]

The WWDC beta says the following:

• an Intel processor or a PowerPC G4 or G5 processor
• a DVD drive
• built-in FireWire
• at least 256 MB of RAM for a Power-PC based Mac and 512 MB for an Intel-based Mac (additional RAM is recommended for development purposes)
• a built-in display or a display connected to an Apple-supplied video card supported by your computer
• at least 6 GB of disk space available, or 8 GB if you install the developer tools

http://www.macrumors.com/2007/06/13/first-hand-with-leopard-9a466/

[drumpat01]

6gigs??? I hope that comes down when it ships. I only have an 80gig HD, i need all the space I can get!

[Cassie]

G3's will run leopard, but at a snails pace.

It will work, but you're advised not too.

[flopticalcube]

G3's will run leopard, but at a snails pace.

It will work, but you're advised not too.
How do you know this?

[otis123]

The WWDC beta says the following:

• an Intel processor or a PowerPC G4 or G5 processor
• a DVD drive
• built-in FireWire
• at least 256 MB of RAM for a Power-PC based Mac and 512 MB for an Intel-based Mac (additional RAM is recommended for development purposes)
• a built-in display or a display connected to an Apple-supplied video card supported by your computer
• at least 6 GB of disk space available, or 8 GB if you install the developer tools

http://www.macrumors.com/2007/06/13/first-hand-with-leopard-9a466/

is that 6gigs on top of tiger? or does it uninstall tiger?

[flopticalcube]

is that 6gigs on top of tiger? or does it uninstall tiger?

I would read that as 6gigs of free space, just to be safe. It will probably take that much including Tiger when it has finished installing.

[drumpat01]

Unlike Vista that comes in "upgrade versions," leopard i think will only replace the system files it needs to change and then leave all your existing files intact. I know it does this if you reinstall Tiger so why wouldn't it do the same with a new OS? Tiger is the only Mac OS ive been around for so I dont know how this upgrading to a new OS really goes. How did it work when Tiger came out? Was it a complete clean install or did you get to keep your files and just replace the underlining system?

[iPhil]

is that 6gigs on top of tiger? or does it uninstall tiger?

That 6 gig install size is basic install ... no iLife etc installed.. if you take out fonts/printer drivers/languages then you can get it under 4 gigs

[Bananac]

What can i expect by this G4 Power Mac 667Mhz and 1Gb ram?

[psychofreak]

What can i expect by this G4 Power Mac 667Mhz and 1Gb ram?

It will not run probably, as the minimum specs are above that...

[projectle]

Last I have seen, it looks like the minimum specs are 800 MHz or greater.

While it "should" run, that figure seems more related to the capabilities of the graphics cards in Macs with less than an 800MHz G4 processor.

CoreAnimation does take a "bit" of resources to run properly, and Leopard is heavily reliant on CoreAnimation.

[Sun Baked]

In reality, anything with less than a 64MB VRAM and/or older GPUs, will likely have some problems with some of the eye candy.

Likely some of the filters and such will turn themselves off like they did for Panther and Tiger (where a couple/few filters-features would be unusable for some older systems.)

[tdhurst]

It will not run probably, as the minimum specs are above that...


Dude, it will be fine. Not great, but fine. You certainly won't have the eye candy.

[FJ218700]

Early after MMSF, there was a dev running it on his 450 MHz cube. Claimed it was faster than Tiger, and that was an early build. Might have to install via FW from a faster Mac though.

[itickings]

Early after MMSF, there was a dev running it on his 450 MHz cube. Claimed it was faster than Tiger, and that was an early build. Might have to install via FW from a faster Mac though.

I hope this will work for the release version. I picked up a Cube just like that one, and I think it would be mean to leave it behind when the other Macs get a shiny new OS. :)

Not that it matters really, the Cube is running headless and with a bluetooth phone for controlling iTunes as the only input device. But still, a family pack is a family pack..

[Bananac]

Then its time to upgrade to iMac or MacBook Pro.

[chrisbone123]

i have a g4 ibook

these are the specs, i dont know mch about computers, so can some one let me know if my computer will lepord and if their are any upgrades i should do.

thanx

1.2ghz
1.25gb ddr
30 gb hard drive

[FJ218700]

i have a g4 ibook

these are the specs, i dont know mch about computers, so can some one let me know if my computer will lepord and if their are any upgrades i should do.

thanx

1.2ghz
1.25gb ddr
30 gb hard drive

no worries mate

[chrisbone123]

^^^^ thanx bro

[ravenvii]

That 6 gig install size is basic install ... no iLife etc installed.. if you take out fonts/printer drivers/languages then you can get it under 4 gigs

Haha, I remember when you can strip all that stuff and get OS X to under 1 GB. LOL

[tdhurst]

Haha, I remember when you can strip all that stuff and get OS X to under 1 GB. LOL

You are so awesome! That's so extreme!

[FJ218700]

You are so awesome! That's so extreme!

extreme indeed

Haha, I remember when you can strip all that stuff and get OS X to under 1 GB. LOL

pretty close,

full 9.1 and 10.0 installs in the first image,

10.2 on the right

[Jazhawk]

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[pianoplayer1]

I have both an imac g5 iSight and an 800 MHz iMac g4

Will the g4 be able to run leopard well?

TIA

-written from iPhone

[thejadedmonkey]

I'm more concerned about the RAM requirements...
I have one of the original G4 mini's running Panther. I have already upgraded the ram to 512mb once.

a 1 gig stick is ~$50.. is it worth it? Will the RAM make a huge difference when it comes to word, internet, IM, and some light iMovie?

[FJ218700]

I have both an imac g5 iSight and an 800 MHz iMac g4

Will the g4 be able to run leopard well?

TIA

-written from iPhone

not via the iMac's DVD drive. Possibly by booting the iMac in T-mode, connecting to the G5, and loading into the G4 drive by running the installer on the G5.

That's what I'll be trying with some of mine.

[FJ218700]

I'm more concerned about the RAM requirements...
I have one of the original G4 mini's running Panther. I have already upgraded the ram to 512mb once.

a 1 gig stick is ~$50.. is it worth it? Will the RAM make a huge difference when it comes to word, internet, IM, and some light iMovie?

so you will be at 1.25 vs 512? That seems worth the $50 to me and will likely make quite a bit of difference, if not in the applications you mentioned, definitely in the finder.

[thejadedmonkey]

so you will be at 1.25 vs 512? That seems worth the $50 to me and will likely make quite a bit of difference, if not in the applications you mentioned, definitely in the finder.

It only has one memory bank, so I'd have to pull the 512mb stick. It would be ~$50 for 1 gig total instead of 512mb's.

[FJ218700]

I was thinking there was one soldered to the board

[philhyde]

I have an eMac 1Ghz G4 w/512MB RAM. I would like to run some apps that require 10.4, so I'm faced with buying either Tiger or Leopard.

Is Tiger more suitable or will Leopard do just fine?

Thanks in advance! :cool:

[FJ218700]

^^^ Tiger might me a bit smoother considering the 512 RAM and the poorer video capabilites of that model. I've got a 1.25 GHz eMac with 1 GB of RAM, that I might upgrade. I'll pull one of the 512's and see how it runs. PM me in a month or so.

[SeVeN]

"PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) "

will an iMac G4 800MHz be ok with 1G of ram? i know this might have been asked before but i want to make sure my dads computer will be ok.

thanks

[FJ218700]

"PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) "

will an iMac G4 800MHz be ok with 1G of ram? i know this might have been asked before but i want to make sure my dads computer will be ok.

thanks

It will definitely run it, but you may have to install via FW in T-mode from an officially-supported system

[otis123]

i got the same but with 1.5GB of RAM, Will the GPU run all the eye candy?

dude i got the same computer!, wait, does your 11 key stick a little too?

i think our computers will do leopard fine, with all the eye candy

[danielpoole06]

hey
how well do you reckon leopard will run on my emac, here are the specs.

G4 1Ghz
768MB RAM
32MB VRAM
max ram is 1 gig.

it is currently running tiger pretty fast, how well would it run leopard?
one of my main concerns is would it slow down the speed of programs such as photoshop or imovie/final cut?

more imovie than final cut

[eMacStudio]

^^^ Tiger might me a bit smoother considering the 512 RAM and the poorer video capabilites of that model. I've got a 1.25 GHz eMac with 1 GB of RAM, that I might upgrade. I'll pull one of the 512's and see how it runs. PM me in a month or so.

I've got the 1.25Ghz eMac with 2gigs of RAM and I'm wondering if I should upgrade to Tiger or Leopard to Run the new Apple Logic Studio?

Is Leopard slowing your eMac down?

Much Thanks :)