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MacRumors
Jul 8, 2003, 09:25 PM
An Appleinsider thread (http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?threadid=26956) claims that certain photos at Apple's site depict Displays without the horizontal stripes. A later post in that same thread then claims that this was confirmed after speaking with someone at Apple PR.



donigian
Jul 8, 2003, 09:32 PM
This sounds great. It's about time the look of the displays were updated. Hopefully this turns out to be true.

Bear
Jul 8, 2003, 09:57 PM
I just looked at the original photos on Apple's website in photoshop. They are the same old displays with the horizontal lines.

nagromme
Jul 8, 2003, 10:48 PM
It's possible, but people have thought this exact same thing before. Some images just didn't show the stripes very well. Maybe the same illusion is being noticed again.

MetallicPenguin
Jul 8, 2003, 10:54 PM
Yeah, actually I noticed this but thought it was just the picture I was looking at wasn't very high quality. Actually I downloaded the PR pictures of it about 14 days ago, and noticed this, and those are high quality I just didn't really think about it.

rog
Jul 9, 2003, 01:47 AM
Totally true--just a bad image or angle. When I first walked into an Apple Store this weekend, I thought, wow, they updated the displays to remove the stupid stripes. Got closer and they revealed themselves. 2 years is too long without a display refresh. I'd love something new and even more modern like the G5 design. Doesn't have to actually be aluminum. Oh yeah, that and a $350 price cut on the 17" to make it competetive with others given it's outdated specs which were barely state of the art 2 years ago. My 18" Dell 1800FP runs rings around the Apple 17" in value, and quality of display, with a wider viewing angle, if not in specs then in real world usage.

Chef Ramen
Jul 9, 2003, 04:18 AM
lol, apple just touched up the images for some reason....*shrugs*

my guess is _real_ new displays will be coming.

cubist
Jul 9, 2003, 08:02 AM
Yes, we want arms like the iMac. Remember the 1 Infinite Cantina article?

lilpig8
Jul 9, 2003, 08:55 AM
I absolutely think 2 year has been 2 long, with the prices the way they are. Apple needs to cut those prices, and change the design a little to suit the new system. Which since the iBook is now the only system to match the old displays. Since the powerbooks have long been metalic i assume the displays will have that look as well. But how soon wil it come?

Fender2112
Jul 9, 2003, 09:38 AM
I feel pretty confident that new displays will show up next week in New York or Paris in mid September at the latest.

Then again I also feel confident that hold the winning PowerBall ticket :)

Kid Red
Jul 9, 2003, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by lilpig8
I absolutely think 2 year has been 2 long, with the prices the way they are. Apple needs to cut those prices, and change the design a little to suit the new system. Which since the iBook is now the only system to match the old displays. Since the powerbooks have long been metalic i assume the displays will have that look as well. But how soon wil it come?

Ah, hello. The just cut the prices MAJORLY not even 6 months ago! That's when I got the 23" and sold my 22". They cut ONE GRAND off the top monitor. Apple's LCDs compete WITH EVERYONE AT THE CURRENT RPICE. What's your bitch about? The design WAS changed as well, adding a chrome Apple logo, more metal on the rear, different touch sensitive buttons and more grey look. Are you trolling or just clueless?

mrsebastian
Jul 9, 2003, 11:00 AM
it just makes sense, that not only will we see updated monitors for the g5, but i wouldn't be surprised to see matching keyboards and mice (maybe with blue tooth?).

if you look at it from a pr standpoint, why shoot your entire load at once with the announcement of the g5?! especially if it's not shipping till most likely september. i'm guessing we'll see new monitors, keyboards, and mice around the actual shipping of the g5 to help boost sales. followed at the end of the year/spring new 15" powerbooks and so on... steve is definitly a pr hound and he'll want to milk it for everything it's worth.

Veldek
Jul 9, 2003, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Kid Red
Apple's LCDs compete WITH EVERYONE AT THE CURRENT RPICE.

Not quite true. There are a lot of displays out there with better specs that cost half the price. Just look at the Hyundai Q17, for example.

macnews
Jul 9, 2003, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by Veldek
Not quite true. There are a lot of displays out there with better specs that cost half the price. Just look at the Hyundai Q17, for example.

I would say Apple's monitors are competitively priced. To throw in a Hyundai?? I noticed you are in Germany so maybe they are more well known over there. Not sure I would trust an "off" (at least for the US) brand name - at least on an LCD monitor. One thing I can say about the Apple LCD monitors is I can trust not to have as many dead pixels out of the box. This is based on my own personal experience. Apple LCD's I have had zero dead pixels out of the box compared to other brand names I have had.

jbomber
Jul 9, 2003, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by macnews
I would say Apple's monitors are competitively priced. To throw in a Hyundai?? I noticed you are in Germany so maybe they are more well known over there. Not sure I would trust an "off" (at least for the US) brand name - at least on an LCD monitor. One thing I can say about the Apple LCD monitors is I can trust not to have as many dead pixels out of the box. This is based on my own personal experience. Apple LCD's I have had zero dead pixels out of the box compared to other brand names I have had.


Hyundai, eh? weird. Got their hands in everything.

It's be like McDonalds making a a line of keyboards and 3 button mice. :D

They could do it, but i dunno if I'd buy.

Yellowtooth
Jul 9, 2003, 12:48 PM
I would say that if anything, Apple will drop the 17" 4:3 model in favor of a more streamlined widescreen display. Maybe even make it 18", and that way the whole line up would be widescreen digital. Yet another PR angle to consider. Especially if they decide to go with a thinner bezel (with Al trim to match the g5's) so that the "pro" user will be happier with side-by-side options, this could be quite the coup for SJ and co.

Maybe this will end up being the "Year of the Monitor".........

testnull
Jul 9, 2003, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by jbomber
Hyundai, eh? weird. Got their hands in everything.

It's be like McDonalds making a a line of keyboards and 3 button mice. :D

They could do it, but i dunno if I'd buy.

No, it'd be more like Mitsubishi making a line of TVs.

Oh, wait.

MacFan25
Jul 9, 2003, 01:49 PM
That's odd how in some pictures there looks to be no stripes. :confused:

scem0
Jul 9, 2003, 06:26 PM
Yes! I've been waiting years for apple to get rid of their current stripe pattern!

:rolleyes:

If apple just changes the stripes on the displays I will be pissed off. I was hoping this case of bad design wouldn't last....

oh well, I would never buy an apple display anyways. They are waaaaaay too expensive. That is where they need to be changed. ;)

scem0

Peyote
Jul 9, 2003, 07:25 PM
It could be a bad viewing angle that cause the stripes to disappear in recent photos, but how do you explain the little buttons on each side of the screen in the newer pics? If you go the the link at the top of the thread, then scroll down you can see the new pictures and how there appear to be little buttons.

Flowbee
Jul 9, 2003, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Yellowtooth
I would say that if anything, Apple will drop the 17" 4:3 model in favor of a more streamlined widescreen display. Maybe even make it 18", and that way the whole line up would be widescreen digital. Yet another PR angle to consider. Especially if they decide to go with a thinner bezel (with Al trim to match the g5's) so that the "pro" user will be happier with side-by-side options, this could be quite the coup for SJ and co.

Maybe this will end up being the "Year of the Monitor".........

I hope the 17" stays around. Yeah, widescreen is cool and all, but for all of us non-video-editing, non-website-designing folks I think it's overkill.

Wonder Boy
Jul 9, 2003, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by scem0
I would never buy an apple display anyways. They are waaaaaay too expensive. That is where they need to be changed. ;)scem0

I agree. I couldnt justify buying a monitor that costs as much as my computer. Especially when my computer will cost ~$3000!.

scem0
Jul 9, 2003, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by Wonder Boy
I agree. I couldnt justify buying a monitor that costs as much as my computer. Especially when my computer will cost ~$3000!.

especially when you could get one with better resolutions for cheaper.

If I was incredibly rich I would get an apple display though. ;)

Actually, I would get 2 of those ergonomic metalic 24" diplays - to go along with my dual 2 GHz G5.

Sigh...... I have to settle for a Gateway 18" display and a 1.8GHz G5 instead :o.

scem0

jbomber
Jul 10, 2003, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by scem0
especially when you could get one with better resolutions for cheaper.

If I was incredibly rich I would get an apple display though. ;)

Actually, I would get 2 of those ergonomic metalic 24" diplays - to go along with my dual 2 GHz G5.

Sigh...... I have to settle for a Gateway 18" display and a 1.8GHz G5 instead :o.

scem0

i'm shedding a single solitary tear for you.
:)

themadchemist
Jul 10, 2003, 10:42 AM
Yeah, I wasted about 15 minutes of my life reading that thread on Appleinsider. Let me tell you...That's 15 MINUTES I'M NEVER GETTING BACK!

Of all the rumor debates I've seen, this was the most idiotic and pointless. Who cares about the lines?! As one poster said on Appleinsider, what matters are the specs.

I concede that the appearance is important and the difference between clear plastic and aluminum displays is definitely significant. But between the lines and no lines?!

I don't think it makes much difference to aesthetics. If the G5 works well with one, it works well with the other, and vice versa.

That's just my 2.53469 cents.

QCassidy352
Jul 10, 2003, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by scem0

Sigh...... I have to settle for a Gateway 18" display and a 1.8GHz G5 instead :o.

scem0

wait, wait, let me get a box of tissues.

Ok, now you can continue with your sad tale of woe and neglect. :rolleyes:

shadowfax
Jul 11, 2003, 02:35 PM
i think i called this, though, that's so odd. i mean they needed to make them match the new G5, but i have mentioned before a lot that i didn't think they would bother upgrading it to USB2 or anything. it's funny how they change things and never mention it.

e-coli
Jul 12, 2003, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by Shadowfax
i think i called this, though, that's so odd. i mean they needed to make them match the new G5, but i have mentioned before a lot that i didn't think they would bother upgrading it to USB2 or anything. it's funny how they change things and never mention it.

And they need to put a firewire port on them for the iSight. USB2 would be nice, but it isn't going to happen. They would have to get the video card manufacturers on board as well.


They're probably not going to update the displays until about October or November. They're probably making a tremendous profit margin off these old styled, old tech screens. And they know that a certain percentage of people are going to buy a new screen with their new G5, so why not get the higher profit margin. It's probably just another way they're going to cover the R&D on the G5.

cr2sh
Jul 13, 2003, 09:10 PM
After watching the G5 intro video.

http://www.apple.com/powermac/video/

Sure the close up shots have stripes, but the distant images of the screens look to match the G5 color.

Wouldnt it suck if instead of stripes we got the pin-holes like the front of the g5 case? :confused:

MacQuest
Jul 13, 2003, 10:25 PM
OOOPS!! NVM.

Go here instead:

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=32055

:D

cr2sh
Jul 13, 2003, 10:45 PM
macbytes posted that image yesterday but it is very cool. though, my desk has an elevated monitor stand.. my old apple display sucked, the viewing angle vertically hurt a lot.. cool design, but i guess id need to buy a new desk to use it.