View Full Version : FCC Photos of the PowerMac G5, Bluetooth, and Airport
MacRumors
Jul 10, 2003, 04:49 PM
The FCC's site contains some photos and documents related to Apple's PowerMac G5:
Airport Extreme installation Instruction Manual (https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=334341&native_or_pdf=pdf)
Photos of the PowerMac G5 (https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=334337&native_or_pdf=pdf)
Bluetooth and Airport Installed (https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/forms/blobs/retrieve.cgi?attachment_id=334342&native_or_pdf=pdf)
In general, nothing particularly revealing -- and these documents were posted on June 23, 2003 - the first day of WWDC when the machines were announced. No other new documents are available, and no evidence of Bluetooth mice or keyboards.
Thanks to miradu.
yossele
Jul 10, 2003, 04:56 PM
Non of the mentioned sites work I receive this message:
Server Error
This server has encountered an internal error which prevents it from fulfilling your request. The most likely cause is a misconfiguration. Please ask the administrator to look for messages in the server's error log.
pianojoe
Jul 10, 2003, 04:57 PM
Same with me... Server error.
Anyone got a summary?
arn
Jul 10, 2003, 05:02 PM
I think the FCC server is particularly suseptible to overload
here's the airport instruction manual:
http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/airportinstruc.pdf
rainman::|:|
Jul 10, 2003, 05:04 PM
same error. probably traffic overload. just as well, really nothing of any importance...
pnw
arn
Jul 10, 2003, 05:08 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/g5pic1.jpg
http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/g5pic2.jpg
http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/g5pic3.jpg
http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/g5pic4.jpg
http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/g5pic5.jpg
Mudbug
Jul 10, 2003, 05:11 PM
just an odd thing, but what's that stuff on the surface of the powerbook?
wondermite
Jul 10, 2003, 05:15 PM
Another traffic-generating post. No news, no new information, graphical or otherwise. I'm starting to grow pretty tired with macrumors "info feed" that takes the place of news.
gopher
Jul 10, 2003, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Mudbug
just an odd thing, but what's that stuff on the surface of the powerbook?
I would suspect those are keyboard shortcuts for their favorite application.
anubis
Jul 10, 2003, 05:22 PM
I think you're referring to the thin plastic film on the display of the powerbook. All powerbooks (at least all powerbooks i've ever gotten) come with a sheet of plastic stuck to the screen to prevent scratches and damage during shipping.
Wes
Jul 10, 2003, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by wondermite
Another traffic-generating post. No news, no new information, graphical or otherwise. I'm starting to grow pretty tired with macrumors "info feed" that takes the place of news.
Maybe you could go elsewhere then?
macman13
Jul 10, 2003, 05:27 PM
that stuff on the screen looks like saran wrap or something
Dont Hurt Me
Jul 10, 2003, 05:33 PM
after imacs,cubes,powermacs the g5 looks like crap. oh well
Megaquad
Jul 10, 2003, 05:34 PM
Those front holes make everything inside visible and IMHO it looks very bad, worst than I thought..
arn
Jul 10, 2003, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by Megaquad
Those front holes make everything inside visible and IMHO it looks very bad, worst than I thought..
I think that's an artifact of the flash
arn
gotohamish
Jul 10, 2003, 05:36 PM
Originally posted by wondermite
Another traffic-generating post. No news, no new information, graphical or otherwise. I'm starting to grow pretty tired with macrumors "info feed" that takes the place of news.
You want news? Go to macminute.com - I found this article interesting, thanks Arn. One satisfied customer, and plenty more around me in the post. Shut up mate.
macman13
Jul 10, 2003, 05:36 PM
apples stuff always looks better on their websit than in real life
arn
Jul 10, 2003, 05:39 PM
Last couple of pics
http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/g5airport.jpg
http://www.macrumors.com/downloads/g5bluetooth.jpg
arn
Jul 10, 2003, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by wondermite
Another traffic-generating post. No news, no new information, graphical or otherwise. I'm starting to grow pretty tired with macrumors "info feed" that takes the place of news.
Oh I'm sorry... i'll refund your subscription fee then...
oh wait. ;)
arn
macman13
Jul 10, 2003, 05:44 PM
[ Admin Edit: let's not make this personal :) ]
tazo
Jul 10, 2003, 05:45 PM
i dont think i will ever get used to the g5. i think its so fugly. i got used to the imac g3, ended up buying one, i got used to the G4 design. I used to hate the alu design too but now i thiink its uber-cool.
SUmmary:
alu, G4, imac g3, cube=good
g5=bad
:)
skymaXimus
Jul 10, 2003, 05:46 PM
Cool, Macs on a holo-deck!
macman13
Jul 10, 2003, 05:48 PM
I think the Power mac looked better when it had more curves in it....
dstorey
Jul 10, 2003, 05:54 PM
Does anyone know if you can add the bluetooth internal module at a later date, or if you have to add it when you purchase the computer? I know oyu can buy a usb dongle but this takes up a usb port and isn't as tidy a solution.
As bluetooth isnt standard on the powermac, there is no way that they will come with a new wireless mouse/keys, unless its a bto option when you purchase the bt module..
obeygiant
Jul 10, 2003, 05:56 PM
That Powermac would probably look better on MY desk....
mangoman
Jul 10, 2003, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by arn
Oh I'm sorry... i'll refund your subscription fee then...
oh wait. ;)
arn
You tell 'em, Arn. :mad:
noverflow
Jul 10, 2003, 06:06 PM
• for: obeygiant
Hey, if i ever get enough posts to get an icon, it is going to be the andre Muslim star... Obeygiant knows what i speak of.
Anyways, you cant buy the bluetooth modual seperate... sadly. May happen later.
zoozx
Jul 10, 2003, 06:12 PM
It is all to obvious that NEW KEYBOARDS & MOUSE are going to come with the G5.
:D
zoozx
Jul 10, 2003, 06:16 PM
And does ANYONE think the G5 is a good looking machine, especially when on the desktop next to the monitor and temp keyboard and mouse?
Man that is butt ugly.
180 degrees from apple's usual sense of style. This will not make the Museum of modern art collection.
Mine will be under the desk.
msp
Jul 10, 2003, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by arn
I think that's an artifact of the flash
arn
It is. I had a look at the G5 at the LinuxTag (http://www.linuxtag.org/2003/de/index.html)here in germany.
Slick machine and blazing fast. They run 10 or 15 quicktime trailers at the same time, and you could play quake in fullscreen on a 23' :-)
Amazing piece of hardware and so easy to change the hdd.
And the front and back look good.
The interior you can see on the photo is not visible if you look at it.
msp
Jul 10, 2003, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by dstorey
Does anyone know if you can add the bluetooth internal module at a later date, or if you have to add it when you purchase the computer? I know oyu can buy a usb dongle but this takes up a usb port and isn't as tidy a solution.
As bluetooth isnt standard on the powermac, there is no way that they will come with a new wireless mouse/keys, unless its a bto option when you purchase the bt module..
Well they showed me today that you can easily remove the fans and get to the places where the bluetooth and the modem is.
There where also some rumors that a dsl interface may be available (third party).
Rocketman
Jul 10, 2003, 06:29 PM
I find it interesting they are testing with all 4 units hooked up at once. If it is an emissions test, does it only fail on spikes or is there an additive aspect?
Most people do not have 2 CPU's I am guessing (geeks of course have more).
Maybe it is a cost saving measure to handle all testing in a single "event".
Arn, after you refund my full subscription I will buy about a million shares of Worldcom and become a Billionaire someday.
Thanks for the tireless work and even if by some people's standards this is old news, it is new to casual browswers to your site and that is good enough for me.
Rocketman
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szark
Jul 10, 2003, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by Megaquad
Those front holes make everything inside visible and IMHO it looks very bad, worst than I thought..
Originally posted by arn
I think that's an artifact of the flash
arn
Actually, you could see into the front of some of the machines at WWDC, mainly because the ceiling lights were hitting the case at exactly the right angle. The ones I noticed weren't quite this "transparent," but I could clearly see the front processor fans turning (very s-l-o-w-l-y).
However, those display machines were in a dark room with sparse lighting. The G5 machines in the developer's lab were in a brightly lit room, and you really couldn't see into those (looked like the Apple site's pictures).
Future Man
Jul 10, 2003, 06:38 PM
So many people are so harsh on the design of this computer that I am compelled to retort. Apple TOTALLY REDESIGNED the entire desktop from the ground up.
Before this computer apples were distinguished from PCs on the outside, but the innards of a desktop have always for the most part been the same (save the cube, of course) Until now.
This design may not catch, It may not make it to the next revision (the cube). But it is a complete departure from the status quo of desktop interior design.
Other that the fact that it is roughly the same shape as most desktops.
So it turned out that they needed mesh on the front and back to get some cooling on, well I see it as function meeting a form of necessity and attraction.
And that’s not saying anything about the specs. I think the G4 had some flare but I like this design more and more, if not only for it’s interior layout.
I personally revel in this accomplishment for apple, and hope that some real world tests prove this thing to be the monster that we all hope it will be.
Even if I don’t totally agree with the way it looks on the outside, yet.;)
10 Goto 10
Jul 10, 2003, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by dstorey
Does anyone know if you can add the bluetooth internal module at a later date, or if you have to add it when you purchase the computer? I know oyu can buy a usb dongle but this takes up a usb port and isn't as tidy a solution.
As bluetooth isnt standard on the powermac, there is no way that they will come with a new wireless mouse/keys, unless its a bto option when you purchase the bt module..
I looked into this and asked several people at apple. They are not currently planning on selling the part to the public for installation outside of the factory. You may be able to get it at some-point from an authorized repair shop, but you shouldn't plan on it ever being available. If you need it internal, get a custom built g5.
macjohnmcc
Jul 10, 2003, 06:59 PM
I'd love to see a keyboard that looks like the 17" Powerbook lighted keys and all. That would rock.
Tommy!
Jul 10, 2003, 07:00 PM
You guys I have a really good idea! Apple should put the antenna inside the computer! Oh how clever I am.
macman13
Jul 10, 2003, 07:04 PM
Do u mean the airpory antenna, because if u do they already have it inside the computer...on the laptops at least
szark
Jul 10, 2003, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Tommy!
You guys I have a really good idea! Apple should put the antenna inside the computer! Oh how clever I am.
The all-aluminum, hole-punctuated case would practically eliminate any chance of a signal getting through.
I wish they could have come up with some integrated design that blended with the case (like the 12/17" PB antennas).
Wonder Boy
Jul 10, 2003, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
after imacs,cubes,powermacs the g5 looks like crap. oh well
Yeah, I really don't care for the see-through front panel.
Linkster82
Jul 10, 2003, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by anubis
I think you're referring to the thin plastic film on the display of the powerbook. All powerbooks (at least all powerbooks i've ever gotten) come with a sheet of plastic stuck to the screen to prevent scratches and damage during shipping.
I've got a 12" bro and no plastic came on my screen.
bigjohn
Jul 10, 2003, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by Wonder Boy
Yeah, I really don't care for the see-through front panel.
i may be giving up a great moneymaking idea, but a neon kit custom fit for the inside of the new pmac wouldn't be bad idea
plinkoman
Jul 10, 2003, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by macman13
apples stuff always looks better on their websit than in real life
my iPod most definately looks far better in person then it does on the site
soggywulf
Jul 10, 2003, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by zoozx
And does ANYONE think the G5 is a good looking machine, especially when on the desktop next to the monitor and temp keyboard and mouse?
I think it will look better in person.
Besides, I see beauty in function. What a wonderful idea, to have unidirectional free-flowing ventilation! Close your eyes and breath deeply, as you imagine the cooling energy pervading the computer case.
Spart
Jul 10, 2003, 08:39 PM
You guys are overreacting to the "transparency" of these beasts. Just think about how it would look under normal lighting, not the glare of a flash. Look at a speaker with a metal grille/dust cover. Can you see inside, see the speaker very well under normal conditions? No. But if you get a flashlight and shine it through the holes at about eye level, then can you see the speaker cone? Of course. It's exactly the same with the camera flash, and probably a little worse as the flash is brighter. Just because you can see the internals as bright as day when a few million candlepower flash goes off doesn't mean they'll show up equally well under the lighting in your room.
These things will look much better in person.
gopher
Jul 10, 2003, 08:51 PM
One really great thing about the G5 is that it has no screws to undo when putting in or taking out hard drives, or any other part of the computer. Pretty innovative if you ask me!
LethalWolfe
Jul 10, 2003, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by Tommy!
You guys I have a really good idea! Apple should put the antenna inside the computer! Oh how clever I am.
Obviously not very...
Lethal
Macmaniac
Jul 10, 2003, 08:56 PM
Well since its so hard to get a good look at the G5, I will be happy to let it all rest when I goto MWCE I will get lots of video of the G5 so u can get a good look!
Makosuke
Jul 10, 2003, 09:01 PM
First, mostly on topic: I agree that you won't be able to see in that well under normal lighting conditions. And in fact, I think the visibility is sort of cool--kinda like the transparent iMac cases, but in metal.
More off topic:
I agree with the handful here that like form follows function. You look at essentially any PC case, and basically you have some drive bays in front, some ports in the back, and everything else more or less jammed into the innards wherever they fit. Then you slap some air guides on it to get the airflow where it needs to be.
The G5 is exactly the opposite. What is really important: you can get to the RAM and expansion slots with the side panel off, you have a spot upfront for an accessable drivebay, and everything stays cool. The most important function of a computer case, after keeping stuff from falling all over, is to help air flow over hot things.
Does everything need to be in one, big open area to stay cool? Quite the opposeite--it'd be better if the things that need to be really cool had their own little well-ventilated space. Hence the G5: everything gets cool in the most efficient way possible, and it's way easy to get your hands in for expansion.
So what if you have to have a big cheese grater up front to provide adequate airflow? That's what makes the machine work better. That's what I want under my desk (where most towers are anyway).
It makes a statement: function counts.
sinbushar
Jul 10, 2003, 09:05 PM
the really innovative thing would be if apple built the airport antenna not in the case..but inTO the case...sorta like how the newer cars are building antenna's into the rear windows...it enhances reception..making it not just an innovation but a technological advance..
my thoughts
adel
macman13
Jul 10, 2003, 09:10 PM
Maybe the G5 will look better in person, but generaly apples stuff looks worse in person
Mr. Anderson
Jul 10, 2003, 09:13 PM
Ok, you can't put the antenna in the case because the all metal design would bounce the signal around *inside* and it would never get out.
Also, the small antenna attached in the pics hooks up to a connection that can also be used for a longer cable for different locations - gives you a better chance of getting a signal if you can move it around.
I don't see a problem with it. Interesting set up, too. :D
D
Haberdasher
Jul 10, 2003, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by wondermite
Another traffic-generating post. No news, no new information, graphical or otherwise. I'm starting to grow pretty tired with macrumors "info feed" that takes the place of news.
Maybe there's no "news" to report? Unless you want them to make stuff up...
DakotaGuy
Jul 10, 2003, 09:38 PM
I don't think there is a problem if you can see a little bit of the "insides" from the front. My Blueberry iMac was designed so you could see inside of it and it still looks cool.
bignumbers
Jul 10, 2003, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by skymaXimus
Cool, Macs on a holo-deck!
I know - that's just about all I looked at when I saw the photos. Very, very cool room!
sonicsessions
Jul 10, 2003, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Makosuke
The G5 is exactly the opposite. What is really important: you can get to the RAM and expansion slots with the side panel off, you have a spot upfront for an accessable drivebay, and everything stays cool. The most important function of a computer case, after keeping stuff from falling all over, is to help air flow over hot things.
Exactly... for those of us who have built computers by hand, we know exactly what a pain in the arse it is to get everything in... even on my own windows box: I just replaced the heatsink for the cpu, and in order to remove the old unit, I actually had to remove the first RAM module. I have a window on the side of that machine (mostly for the built-in fan... AMD chips need some serious cooling), but it is a hideous mess of cables and whatnot. The G5, by comparison, is perhaps the most beautifully organised setup I've ever seen. And I'm a fan of the case... the function is great, and the form fits in with my office decor smashingly. Bravo.
Golem
Jul 10, 2003, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by 10 Goto 10
I looked into this and asked several people at apple. They are not currently planning on selling the part to the public for installation outside of the factory. You may be able to get it at some-point from an authorized repair shop, but you shouldn't plan on it ever being available. If you need it internal, get a custom built g5.
Uggh the way the pricing works for us the difference between a stock model straight of apple and a custom built from apple store is about $800 at the moment. Hopefully the 15'' ally pbook will come with bluetooth built in.
pseudobrit
Jul 10, 2003, 10:39 PM
This is newsworthy.
AFAIK, these are the first actual photos of a G5 in operation that aren't brushed up for marketing purposes.
Snowy_River
Jul 10, 2003, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by macman13
apples stuff always looks better on their websit than in real life
I would have to disagree, at least on one point, if not many. When I first saw the original iMac on Apple's website, I thought it was the ugliest looking computer ever. However, when I got to see one in the store (at the midnight release when my parents bought one), I thought that it was no where near as unattractive as the photos on Apple's website made it look.
I've felt similar about a number of different models that Apple has put out.
Snowy_River
Jul 11, 2003, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by zoozx
And does ANYONE think the G5 is a good looking machine, especially when on the desktop next to the monitor and temp keyboard and mouse?
While I will agree that the combination of the old screen and keyboard with the new tower isn't all that attractive, I rather like the look of the new tower, and not just for functional reasons, thought there is that too.
I think that with a new display and properly styled keyboard and mouse (someone suggested a keyboard like those that the PowerBooks carry), this could be a spectacular looking machine.
I just think about what it would look like to have a G5 sitting next to my PowerBook, and the image is quite appealing (and not just because I'd really like a new G5!).
MacCoaster
Jul 11, 2003, 01:12 AM
Dudes... am I seeing things or what?! Is that two "G4"s carved into the heat sinks?!
:eek:
ddtlm
Jul 11, 2003, 01:57 AM
I can confirm that at least one person really likes the way the G5 case looks, because I do.
rabatjoie
Jul 11, 2003, 03:18 AM
Originally posted by MacCoaster
Dudes... am I seeing things or what?! Is that two "G4"s carved into the heat sinks?!
:eek:
you're not, i think... i couldn't believe it and just downloaded the PDF myself... and it's there. maybe the manual was done very early when they were not quite sure yet about IBM delivering the chips? ...well, that must've been VERY early then...:confused:
willrb
Jul 11, 2003, 03:41 AM
Reason why the PowerMac G5 looks awful in these shots:
Camera flash.
In real life situations, you're not going to be able to see into the casing, because it will be dark in there. The flash on the camera is illuminating the inside (through the holes) as well as the outside.
/will
solvs
Jul 11, 2003, 05:26 AM
If you need BT, but don't want a CTO (which you can get from places other than directly from Apple), just buy a USB dongle.
Originally posted by macman13
Maybe the G5 will look better in person, but generaly apples stuff looks worse in person
I find the opposite to be true, but even if they are ugly in person, I want one. It'll just go on the floor anyway.
BTW, not to flame, but posting the same negative comment 3 times in the discussion to raise you post count is generally frowned upon. It's almost as bad as insulting Arn (and/or the validity of content). I'm looking at you wondermite.
Just a warning. ;)
DakotaGuy
Jul 11, 2003, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by MacCoaster
Dudes... am I seeing things or what?! Is that two "G4"s carved into the heat sinks?!
:eek:
They probably released the manual early and in case it got into the wrong hands (rumors) etc. wanted to mis-lead people. You know how Apple can be.
whawho
Jul 11, 2003, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by tazo
i dont think i will ever get used to the g5. i think its so fugly. i got used to the imac g3, ended up buying one, i got used to the G4 design. I used to hate the alu design too but now i thiink its uber-cool.
SUmmary:
alu, G4, imac g3, cube=good
g5=bad
:)
I love the minimalist design of the G5... But to each their own... Simplistic but brilliant design IMO
soggywulf
Jul 11, 2003, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by Snowy_River
I would have to disagree, at least on one point, if not many. When I first saw the original iMac on Apple's website, I thought it was the ugliest looking computer ever. However, when I got to see one in the store (at the midnight release when my parents bought one), I thought that it was no where near as unattractive as the photos on Apple's website made it look.
I've felt similar about a number of different models that Apple has put out.
I agree. Pictures simply don't have the same capabilities as the eye/brain looking at the real thing. You notice very subtle things almost subconsiously, and this makes a big difference in your perception. For a good example, try looking at a picture of a mountain. Now look at the mountain itself. An enormous difference.
Rustus Maximus
Jul 11, 2003, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by MacCoaster
Dudes... am I seeing things or what?! Is that two "G4"s carved into the heat sinks?!
:eek:
Apparently they have now updated the PDF to accurately indicate the new processors...
10 Goto 10
Jul 11, 2003, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by Golem
Uggh the way the pricing works for us the difference between a stock model straight of apple and a custom built from apple store is about $800 at the moment. Hopefully the 15'' ally pbook will come with bluetooth built in.
Nope, Just 49 bucks more. You don't have to add any other options. By custom, I meant you had to add the internal Bluetooth option, not that you had to add all the frickin' options.
macman13
Jul 11, 2003, 10:11 AM
When I first saw the new iMac on apples website I thought it was the coollsest thing, but after seeing it in person I thought it didn't look as good. And now, I see them evrywhere so I am realy tired of them
Captnroger
Jul 11, 2003, 10:19 AM
Sorry all, I think it's UGLY. (the G5)
Veldek
Jul 11, 2003, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by macman13
When I first saw the new iMac on apples website I thought it was the coollsest thing, but after seeing it in person I thought it didn't look as good. And now, I see them evrywhere so I am realy tired of them
Could it be, you're just a troll? Because everything I hear from you is how ugly all the Macs are (looking at your last posts). Well, a lot of designers will say something else. You may have your opinion, but is it necessary, that you mention it this often just to receive attention as it seems?
copperpipe
Jul 11, 2003, 10:23 AM
someone said here that Apples stuff always looks better on their website than in real life. I think it's just the opposite (most of the time).
But, yeah, the G5 is freaking huge, and will find it's home under my desk as well.
As far as looks go, here's my Apple list, from beautiful to ugly.
The beautiful:
1) Original iMac (I tried to replace mine recently, but i just couldn't, I like it so much)
2) TiBook
3) PowerMac G4
4) Latest Powerbooks
5) Latest iBook
6) The new iMac
The undecided:
PowerMac G5 (obviously, since I haven't seen it in person)
The Ugly:
1) The old iBook (that tried to look like an iMac - blech!)
2) eMac (it's so unfriendly especially compared to the original iMac)
arn
Jul 11, 2003, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by MacCoaster
Dudes... am I seeing things or what?! Is that two "G4"s carved into the heat sinks?!
:eek:
heh... good catch...
odd
arn
Snowy_River
Jul 11, 2003, 11:17 AM
I am astonished by the level of criticism that has been leveled in this thread. Why do people have so much problem with the fact that others have different opinions? If you think the G5 is ugly, that's fine. That doesn't mean that I have to agree with you. And just because I like the look of the G5 doesn't mean that I'm kissing Apple's ***.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Veldek
Jul 11, 2003, 11:19 AM
Originally posted by Snowy_River
I am astonished by the level of criticism that has been leveled in this thread. Why do people have so much problem with the fact that others have different opinions? If you think the G5 is ugly, that's fine. That doesn't mean that I have to agree with you. And just because I like the look of the G5 doesn't mean that I'm kissing Apple's ***.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
You're right. But I think the two people that said so were only trolls, so we should forget about them and go on with this thread.
dethl
Jul 11, 2003, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by Rustus Maximus
Apparently they have now updated the PDF to accurately indicate the new processors...
ROFLMAO! :D
Nightstalker
Jul 11, 2003, 01:19 PM
more G4...
Nightstalker
solvs
Jul 11, 2003, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Veldek
But I think the two people that said so were only trolls, so we should forget about them and go on with this thread.
Not so much trolling as trying to increase post counts, IMO. Someone saying this thread is pointless is almost as bad as those people who respond to Help Questions with "I have no idea". THEN WHY POST!?! You clicked on the link! It's even worse when they post the same complaint a couple of times in the same discussion.
Of course, technically, I just did that too.
At least I'm on topic.
Wait, no I'm not... uh, G5 good. Ugly maybe. Maybe not. Good pictures. Anyone else worried about the dust factor?
benixau
Jul 11, 2003, 10:27 PM
Hmmm - i emailed apple about the dust and allthey did was tell me good ways to get rid of the dust in their own opinion. I mean - please - who, with any brains vacuums their mac? even more so if it is a metal case.
As for the looks - i think it will look nice. Like a REAL computer and should stop many of the comments that come from BBOs* about our computers only having good looks and no guts.
I like it.
*Beige Box Owners
Snowy_River
Jul 12, 2003, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by solvs
uh, G5 good. Ugly maybe. Maybe not. Good pictures. Anyone else worried about the dust factor?
That's something that has occurred to me. But I doubt it will be much more of a factor than with most computers. Now, the best anti-dust designed computer I've ever seen was a box that an aquaintance of mine built. He was never happy with any design that he found, for dust reasons. He actually reversed the fans in his box so they were blowing into the case, not out, and he installed a thin filter over the fan entrance. He told me that he had to change the filter about once a month, but it only took thirty seconds. And with the fans blowing into the case, there was positive case pressure, so no dust would get in anywhere else.
Now, what I'd really like to see is a consumer machine (or pro-sumer machine) that is designed from day-one to be closed-system liquid cooled. Then they could really crank up the GHz!
themadchemist
Jul 12, 2003, 03:56 PM
[mod. edit - No need to quote the images again.]
I retract my statement on a previous post that I have grown to like the G5's look. I'm definitely waiting to see it in person before I pass a final judgement, but from these pictures, it sure looks terrible.
It looks like a metal canister, and not one I'd be happy to put on my desk. And I just realized another thing:
Even if it does look good out of the box, imagine how susceptible it's going to be to fingerprinting. If you don't polish it everyday like a good Mac user, it's going to look really bad within a few days. And it may not be temporary either, because I'm pretty sure the oils from your hands won't be very kind to the case either.
themadchemist
Jul 12, 2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by msp
It is. I had a look at the G5 at the LinuxTag (http://www.linuxtag.org/2003/de/index.html)here in germany.
Slick machine and blazing fast. They run 10 or 15 quicktime trailers at the same time, and you could play quake in fullscreen on a 23' :-)
Amazing piece of hardware and so easy to change the hdd.
And the front and back look good.
The interior you can see on the photo is not visible if you look at it.
Wait, they're displaying these places? I didn't think Apple was distributing their prototypes for show. I wish they'd put them in Apple Stores--at least high-traffic ones.
But I suppose that Techie-events like these would be the ideal place to show off the G5.
Kind of steals the thunder from Jos and Apple Expo, though. But I guess Jobs never really liked IDG and its "expos." :D
themadchemist
Jul 12, 2003, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Linkster82
I've got a 12" bro and no plastic came on my screen.
That's right, because what they are showing there are the NEW Powerbook G5s, with PWT(tm)* displays that keep your screen that provide a 3-dimensional surface through which images can be seen.
PWT(tm) is the registered trademark for Rubbermaid Plastic Wrapping Technology. Patents pending.
:D
Rower_CPU
Jul 12, 2003, 04:19 PM
Watch the multiple posts, themadchemist.
themadchemist
Jul 12, 2003, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by sinbushar
the really innovative thing would be if apple built the airport antenna not in the case..but inTO the case...sorta like how the newer cars are building antenna's into the rear windows...it enhances reception..making it not just an innovation but a technological advance..
my thoughts
adel
but wait, aren't innovation and technological advance pretty much the same thing...at least when you're talking about the TECHNOLOGICAL industry? ;)
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