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HiRez
Jun 24, 2007, 10:00 PM
Hi guys, I had to miss WWDC for the first time in years (damn you, full time job!). What interesting things did you find out about Leopard, Xcode, Obj-C/Cocoa additions, or other development tools?



janey
Jun 24, 2007, 10:13 PM
NDA :rolleyes: :(

kainjow
Jun 24, 2007, 11:22 PM
Well NS____ is a great new addition, and Core____ will make everything so nice.

;) :)

MacRohde
Jun 25, 2007, 02:19 AM
What a way to nuture the developer community - make it all NDA. Sometimes it seems they just wanna piss off the developers.

janey
Jun 25, 2007, 02:23 AM
What a way to nuture the developer community - make it all NDA. Sometimes it seems they just wanna piss off the developers.

It's crappy but ...like this says (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomferris/546083565/)...

After Leopard it'll all be known. Until then :rolleyes:

MacRohde
Jun 25, 2007, 03:10 AM
It's crappy but ...like this says (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomferris/546083565/)...

After Leopard it'll all be known. Until then :rolleyes:

I'm definitely looking forward to Objective-C 2.0 and I'm also interested in what new features there's in Xcode 3. Oh well, I can wait.... :( :cool:

janey
Jun 25, 2007, 03:14 AM
I'm definitely looking forward to Objective-C 2.0 and I'm also interested in what new features there's in Xcode 3. Oh well, I can wait.... :( :cool:
in regards to objc2.0 there actually wasn't much at the couple sessions i went to that I didn't already know in general about from reading various blogs and mailing lists, like the big ones like garbage collection. I thought I was going to cream my pants (figuratively). :D

MacRohde
Jun 25, 2007, 03:53 AM
in regards to objc2.0 [..SNIP...] , like the big ones like garbage collection. I thought I was going to cream my pants (figuratively). :D

Wow....you take your programming seriously. Respect. :D

janey
Jun 25, 2007, 03:54 AM
Wow....you take your programming seriously. Respect. :D

no, the lack of GC was like the #1 thing i seriously didn't like about objc. that makes me a noob :D

kainjow
Jun 25, 2007, 06:19 AM
in regards to objc2.0 there actually wasn't much at the couple sessions i went to that I didn't already know in general about from reading various blogs and mailing lists, like the big ones like garbage collection.

I guess you didn't go to the advanced session on Objective-C 2.0 and the advanced session on GC - those were awesome :)

janey
Jun 25, 2007, 06:37 AM
I guess you didn't go to the advanced session on Objective-C 2.0 and the advanced session on GC - those were awesome :)

not the former because i'm still an objc noob..and the latter i missed out on for the java session (which sucked...). i should have, but...well... :p

and i did say objc2.0 'in general'. :D

Krevnik
Jun 25, 2007, 10:23 AM
What a way to nuture the developer community - make it all NDA. Sometimes it seems they just wanna piss off the developers.

Unless you intend to develop specifically for 10.5 before it's release, having access is not going to help you all that much. If it works on 10.4, it should work on 10.5 as-is. Moving to 64-bit isn't a priority, and can be done after RTM. Those with ADC Online accounts will even get the WWDC sessions by the end of the year, most likely.

Those that feel making a 10.5-only release in the time-frame of Leopard's release is worth it are paying the money to get seed access to all of Apple's releases.