Poll: Are you going to Macworld Creative Pro? [Archive]

Mr. Anderson

Jul 11, 2003, 07:08 AM

Originally posted by bignumbers
I'll be there - been to every East Coast show since '88 or so. But I'm not expecting much. With all the name-changes and Apple/IDG squabbling it's bound to be a lot smaller, both in vendors and attendees.

Yeah, that's got me a bit worried....I went and looked at the exhibitor list and wasn't all that impressed - not many big names.

No Adobe, Apple, Newtek, Alias/Wavefront or Game companies....

Now I'm thinking I'll get feed back from the people who go and base my decision on making the trip on the reports....

D

MacFan25

Jul 11, 2003, 07:35 AM

Nope I'm not going. But, if the keynote is streamed then I'll watch it. Not sure if it will be though.

Keynoteuser

Jul 11, 2003, 07:48 AM

Mr. Anderson...Apple has the biggest booth...how did you miss that one?

http://www.macworldexpo.com/macworld2003/V40/exhibitor_list/displayEx.cvn?exbID=425

Ah, I think their View All button is broken. If you click on each letter of the alphabet you'll see there are more exhibitors than if you click view all.

eric_n_dfw

Jul 11, 2003, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by Keynoteuser
Mr. Anderson...Apple has the biggest booth...how did you miss that one?

http://www.macworldexpo.com/macworld2003/V40/exhibitor_list/displayEx.cvn?exbID=425

Ah, I think their View All button is broken. If you click on each letter of the alphabet you'll see there are more exhibitors than if you click view all. As will Adobe & Alias/Wavefront (no NewTek though)

MacManDan

Jul 11, 2003, 10:40 AM

Unfortunately, it's too far away for me (since I'm in TX right now and I'll be working anyway). Maybe next year if it's in Boston I could go .. since it would just be a hop and skip away from my school ;) But we'll see.

wdlove

Jul 11, 2003, 10:41 AM

Don't plan to attend. Was at MWNY in '02. I will be attending MacWorld Pro Boston in '04. I'm anxiously awaiting its return.

Mr. Anderson

Jul 11, 2003, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by eric_n_dfw
As will Adobe & Alias/Wavefront (no NewTek though)

Ah, well, then the website info is wrong - thanks for letting me know - I'll be very interested in going now.....

D

evoluzione

Jul 11, 2003, 11:09 AM

yes i'm definitely going, and hopefully i'll get that free ticket in time too :)

D. Do i owe you a pint??? i can't remember, well there's an incentive to visit nyc heh.

bennetsaysargh

Jul 11, 2003, 11:16 AM

im going! woot!.
wait, i need to find a ride back home:(
i'll find a way to get back home. i already got a ride there:)
i would think that adobe will be there because of photoshop 8 maybe? iu dunno.

i cant wait untill wedsday!

Mr. Anderson

Jul 11, 2003, 11:24 AM

Originally posted by evoluzione
yes i'm definitely going, and hopefully i'll get that free ticket in time too :)

D. Do i owe you a pint??? i can't remember, well there's an incentive to visit nyc heh.

Ha, you do owe me :D

Anyway, we'll have to arrange the best day, once we all get tickets. So when are the tics supposed to show up?

D

frozenstar

Jul 11, 2003, 11:32 AM

I'll be there bright and early to get a good seat for Jozwiak's keynote, uhh, I mean "feature presentation".

bennetsaysargh

Jul 11, 2003, 11:37 AM

is ity possible tht steve jobs shows up at the last minute? has he ever done this before?

Snowy_River

Jul 11, 2003, 11:39 AM

Alas, no. I can't make it there. Maybe next year...

P-Worm

Jul 11, 2003, 11:53 AM

Me? My income is like $45 a week (I teach saxophone lessons). So, no.

P-Worm

yzedf

Jul 11, 2003, 02:13 PM

Nope, and I live 45 minutes away.

evoluzione

Jul 11, 2003, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Ha, you do owe me :D

Anyway, we'll have to arrange the best day, once we all get tickets. So when are the tics supposed to show up?

D

i think they're coming via UPS ground, which is pretty quick, i usually get stuff that way in 2 days, so hopefully monday i'll receive them. but any day should be good for me, i'll check with me mate too, but i think he'll make any day too.

scem0

Jul 11, 2003, 03:18 PM

No.

The reason: A combination of my age, location, and the color of my left house slipper.

scem0

Mr. Anderson

Jul 11, 2003, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by evoluzione
i think they're coming via UPS ground, which is pretty quick, i usually get stuff that way in 2 days, so hopefully monday i'll receive them. but any day should be good for me, i'll check with me mate too, but i think he'll make any day too.

Ok, well post here when you get them so we can coordinate....;)

I'll probably take an early train and leave whenever - it will be great, especially since I won't have to drive. How far is the Javits center from Penn Station?

D

frozenstar

Jul 11, 2003, 04:32 PM

Are any MacRumors members interested in meeting up at MWCP? I imagine there will be much to talk about as we will all have had a chance to actually touch the new Power Mac G5.
PM me if you're interested. We can try to arrange for a time and location that is suitable to everyone.

jbomber

Jul 11, 2003, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by wdlove
Don't plan to attend. Was at MWNY in '02. I will be attending MacWorld Pro Boston in '04. I'm anxiously awaiting its return.

Not to be a jerk, but SCREW BOSTON! :D

Sorry. I live in NYC and that's just the anger talking....

bennetsaysargh

Jul 11, 2003, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by jbomber
Not to be a jerk, but SCREW BOSTON! :D

Sorry. I live in NYC and that's just the anger talking....

i wanted to sayb that, but i restricted myself from doing so. lol:p
i wanted i to stay in NY, but i guess a trip to boston won't hurt:)

Freg3000

Jul 11, 2003, 08:09 PM

Yes, I am going. it will be my first expo. Too bad it sounds like it definitely won't be as spectacular as past expos. It will still be fun though. :)

wdlove

Jul 11, 2003, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
is ity possible tht steve jobs shows up at the last minute? has he ever done this before?

I very much doubt at this point that he will make an appearance. It seems that he will just do Keynotes on the Left Coast. At some point I think it will be necessary for him to showup on the East Coast though!

evoluzione

Jul 11, 2003, 08:45 PM

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Ok, well post here when you get them so we can coordinate....;)

I'll probably take an early train and leave whenever - it will be great, especially since I won't have to drive. How far is the Javits center from Penn Station?

D

of course. the javits centre is about 3 or 4 blocks west of Penn Station, easily walkable, unless it's about 95 degrees outside.

teabgs

Jul 12, 2003, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by evoluzione
of course. the javits centre is about 3 or 4 blocks west of Penn Station, easily walkable, unless it's about 95 degrees outside.

it's still walkable though....its not the heat, but the humidity that sucks...

I'll be there

themadchemist

Jul 12, 2003, 04:37 PM

No, though I've never been before. They're always so far from where I live! I wish they had an expo in Chicago during the school year. Then, at least, I could go to one while I'm at my university (if I can find time).

But Apple sure does know how to kill a party. Steve wasn't happy with the Expo plans, so he pulls out his keynote and the G5 announcement. Poor IDG :(

BUT maybe he will throw them a fish bone, like new keyboards, mice, and monitor. Or a brontosaurus bone, like 15" PBs.

teabgs

Jul 12, 2003, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by themadchemist

But Apple sure does know how to kill a party. Steve wasn't happy with the Expo plans, so he pulls out his keynote and the G5 announcement. Poor IDG :(

Not poor IDG. Last year they were huge jerks. I was suppossed to be there to take photos for this company, along with another person who was writing an article. So we were press and talked to the person in charge the night before and he assured us that everything was set.

When we got there they were turning away 90% of the press and making them buy expo passes. Everyone was complaining and all they did was say "tough. you may have recieved a pass last year, but that was a different group, we control it now." Then this woman goes on about how she makes $200/hr and doesn't need to deal with complaints like this, and that it isnt a big deal as the pass is only $15.

Then when I went to get my pass they told me I was in the wrong line because I was suppossed to have a press pass, and to go back over to that line. It wasnt worth the headache I had to get the pass...let me tell you....geez

bcsimac

Jul 13, 2003, 04:57 PM

I don't think Steve will, but he has before. The first MacWorld Expo in NYC in fact. He was supposed to come on via Satelitte hookup. This was the expo in which the original iMac was announced and demoed. I remember vividly being told by Apple and Mac web sites that Steve was satelitte hookup, and then supposedly from what I understand Steve like flew overnight to make it at the last moment to announce the original iMac which was the beginning of the "resurrection" of the "bealeagured" Apple. I was told by some of the other attendees that Steve came rather hurryly and seemed like he had just come out of a shower or something....LOL!

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
is ity possible tht steve jobs shows up at the last minute? has he ever done this before?

bcsimac

Jul 13, 2003, 05:10 PM

I lived in Boston when they had it in Boston, and then they moved it to NYC. I thought it was kinda stupid and very short sighted. I thought Boston's legislature and stuff was a bunch of dumb stubborn idiots about the convention center thing.....they wanted the Democratic convention more.....and LOST that bid too....doh!!!!!!!! I still didn't complain. I still bought the Amtrak tickets and got hotel reservations. I even took my sweetie along with me when the Cube got launched. It was nice to see the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island and the WTC building before it got blowed up. To me it really doesn't matter whether it is in Boston or NYC.....either way it was expensive for me! I, however, admit that I am glad it is back in Boston where it was from the beginning on the East Coast and had a history there.....and well my mom still lives in the Boston area so it gives me a chance to see my mom and family......and maybe if I get lucky my sweetie and I can crash at mom's apartment instead of having to pay the hotel fees.....YAY!!!! If it had stayed in NYC, I still would have considered going in 2004 if I had the money to go. It really isn't a big deal. I just wish the Bostonians and New Yorkers or should I say Bastonians and New Yawkers would take a chill pill and call a truce or peace or something......the Bambino curse and all!

Originally posted by jbomber
Not to be a jerk, but SCREW BOSTON! :D

Sorry. I live in NYC and that's just the anger talking....

jbomber

Jul 13, 2003, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by wdlove
I very much doubt at this point that he will make an appearance. It seems that he will just do Keynotes on the Left Coast. At some point I think it will be necessary for him to showup on the East Coast though!

For one of the revamped MacWorld Expos?

Not til IDG issues him a full apology, and gets their act together, I bet.

jbomber

Jul 13, 2003, 06:31 PM

Sorry man,

It's just that i've been to each macworld since 99, and wanted the july tradition to continue. I'd always get whatever company i was working for to pay for some passes and i'd essentially be getting points at the office for 'research' and 'keeping ahead of the technology. 4 hours of freetime and free passes? How could i pass that up? I doubt that my company's going to pay for me to take time off to go to Boston for a mac fest. Oh well. Enjoy it next year. I hope the Apple IDG tension softens before then or it'll be a pretty boring show.

Originally posted by bcsimac
I lived in Boston when they had it in Boston, and then they moved it to NYC. I thought it was kinda stupid and very short sighted. I thought Boston's legislature and stuff was a bunch of dumb stubborn idiots about the convention center thing.....they wanted the Democratic convention more.....and LOST that bid too....doh!!!!!!!! I still didn't complain. I still bought the Amtrak tickets and got hotel reservations. I even took my sweetie along with me when the Cube got launched. It was nice to see the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island and the WTC building before it got blowed up. To me it really doesn't matter whether it is in Boston or NYC.....either way it was expensive for me! I, however, admit that I am glad it is back in Boston where it was from the beginning on the East Coast and had a history there.....and well my mom still lives in the Boston area so it gives me a chance to see my mom and family......and maybe if I get lucky my sweetie and I can crash at mom's apartment instead of having to pay the hotel fees.....YAY!!!! If it had stayed in NYC, I still would have considered going in 2004 if I had the money to go. It really isn't a big deal. I just wish the Bostonians and New Yorkers or should I say Bastonians and New Yawkers would take a chill pill and call a truce or peace or something......the Bambino curse and all!

ibookin'

Jul 13, 2003, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by Flowbee
Too far away. I'll be at MWSF, though (20 minutes away). :cool:

I live an hour away from MWSF...

Assuming I take a plane there. :D

I won't be at CreativePro. Not worth flying across the country for no SteveNote...

Kwyjibo

Jul 13, 2003, 10:06 PM

i wish i was going but no money to goto newyork from chicago when will there be macWorld Chicago....crosses fingers

wdlove

Jul 14, 2003, 08:29 AM

I'm hoping that some of those attending MacWorld Creative Pro NY will post their thoughts about the show. I'm interested to know what's happening!

Mr. Anderson

Jul 14, 2003, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by teabgs
it's still walkable though....its not the heat, but the humidity that sucks...

I'll be there

Well, I haven't got my tickets yet - how much are they going to be at the door if I have to pay?

3 to 4 blocks is nothing.....hot and humid in NYC? Please, I'm from DC - need I remind you evo about a little trek on Roosevelt Island in June? That was hot and humid ;)

And as for when, I'm thinking Wednesday, that sound good? I have a major project meeting on Tuesday that I can't miss - and things might be a little less crowded on Wednesday anyway.

D

thebossisback

Jul 14, 2003, 08:49 AM

i think 30 0r 35 dollars

thebossisback

Jul 14, 2003, 09:14 AM

Im gonna take a train wenseday night and go to macworld thursday. I will have a blue backpack that says "READ" on the back if anyone spots me

bennetsaysargh

Jul 14, 2003, 10:18 AM

on or before June 16th-$15
June 17th through July 13th-$25
On Site-$35

frozenstar

Jul 14, 2003, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
And as for when, I'm thinking Wednesday, that sound good? I have a major project meeting on Tuesday that I can't miss - and things might be a little less crowded on Wednesday anyway.

Less crowded on Wednesday? I doubt it. Wednesday is the first day of the exhibit hall, and also the day when Jozwiak is scheduled to give his feature presentation.
Wednesday will most likely be the most crowded day of the entire event.

bennetsaysargh

Jul 14, 2003, 10:25 AM

wedsday will be crowded. ver crowded. i can't wait though! free stuff! posters gallore!

woot!:p:D:p:d

Mr. Anderson

Jul 14, 2003, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
on or before June 16th-$15
June 17th through July 13th-$25
On Site-$35

Well, for free tics, it will be saving me $35, but I don't know if I'm going to get one or not.

Now the train fare costs 144 and parking puts that just around $200. Now I'm wondering if its going to be worth it. It not much, but since I'm saving up for a new machine, every little bit will help.

I'd love to hear from people who go what they think and if its worth the trip.

Thanks,

D

frozenstar

Jul 14, 2003, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Now the train fare costs 144 and parking puts that just around $200. Now I'm wondering if its going to be worth it. It not much, but since I'm saving up for a new machine, every little bit will help.

I'd love to hear from people who go what they think and if its worth the trip.

$200 to go to MWCP? That's 100x what I'll be spending to get there! If the MTA wasn't such a corrupt and inefficient organization, my subway ride would be more like $1.00, and then I could say you are spending 200x as much me!

But seriously, $200 seems like a lot for a non-Jobs keynote. If I were you, I'd put it towards that new machine you're saving up for.

bennetsaysargh

Jul 14, 2003, 10:59 AM

i think you should save up for the machine. nothing big will be there. nothing big ever happens when i go:p

evoluzione

Jul 14, 2003, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by Mr. Anderson
Now the train fare costs 144 and parking puts that just around $200.

crikey dude, you can fly for that price...that what i did whn i came down to DC. get one of your customs buddies to fly you up in a black hawk hehe. i'm sure they have a helipad at the javits centre ;)

if you wanted to make it more worthwhile, you could always crash at mine and go back the next day, take some more shots etc...

Mr. Anderson

Jul 14, 2003, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by frozenstar
But seriously, $200 seems like a lot for a non-Jobs keynote. If I were you, I'd put it towards that new machine you're saving up for.

I'm leaning that way right now myself. I'm under a bit of a crunch getting the money together as it is and every little bit will help. I'm planning on dropping $6k for the whole thing anyway :D

It would be nice to see the machines in person and meet up with some friends, but its all a matter of priority. I tried to get work to pay for it, but there's nothing there that really affects my job....so, it would be a vacation day and a travel expenses on me....not that I wouldn't have fun, but....

We'll see what the *reports* are like tomorrow and that will justify it.

D

bennetsaysargh

Jul 14, 2003, 12:23 PM

attendance is down.

By last week, about 13,000 people and about 130 exhibitors had registered for Macworld, which opens at the Javits Center. Korse would not estimate how many more people will show up this week, but said he considers the early registration numbers a success because the show is all new.

here's the article
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/a/2003/07/14/BU275076.DTL

teabgs

Jul 14, 2003, 01:25 PM

*******ATTENTION PEOPLE IN DC WANTING TO GOTO NYC FOR CHEAP*******

Mr.A....this means you.

http://www.washingtondeluxe.com

$35 round trip.

I believe this also works for Boston.

frozenstar

Jul 14, 2003, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by bennetsaysargh
attendance is down.

here's the article
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/a/2003/07/14/BU275076.DTL

I think those numbers are meaningless at this point. Tons of people register on-site. We should wait to see what Wednesday's attendance is if we want a fair comparison between this and previous MacWorlds.

wdlove

Jul 14, 2003, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by teabgs
*******ATTENTION PEOPLE IN DC WANTING TO GOTO NYC FOR CHEAP*******

Mr.A....this means you.

http://www.washingtondeluxe.com

$35 round trip.

I believe this also works for Boston.

Sadly only NY & Washington are listed on the schedule, no Boston information to be found. We still have Amtrak, just at a premium price. Since I'm 6' 8" a bus would probably be miserable for that long of a distance. A plane is bad enough! :(

evoluzione

Jul 14, 2003, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by wdlove
Sadly only NY & Washington are listed on the schedule, no Boston information to be found. We still have Amtrak, just at a premium price. Since I'm 6' 8" a bus would probably be miserable for that long of a distance. A plane is bad enough! :(

there's a bus that goes from chinatown boston to chinatown nyc for about $25 or something. i believe it's called the fung wa bus or something. sorry i don't have more info...

frozenstar

Jul 14, 2003, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by evoluzione
there's a bus that goes from chinatown boston to chinatown nyc for about $25 or something. i believe it's called the fung wa bus or something. sorry i don't have more info...

Yeah, I think it's $10 each way. I've heard some horror stories about those busses though. The drivers are insane. Is your life worth $20? The Chinatown bus is scary. Don't take it.

Mr. Anderson

Jul 14, 2003, 03:36 PM

Originally posted by teabgs
Mr.A....this means you.

http://www.washingtondeluxe.com

$35 round trip.

nice price, only thing is that its 4 hours, leaves at 8:30 - so if there is no traffic I might get there by 12:30 - more likely 1 and then have to leave at 5:30...thats a little tight for me. 8 hours on a bus too....blah....if I really thought I should go I'd cough up the money and take the train. We'll see what happens tomorrow if anything new shows up or something interesting makes it worth while.

D

wdlove

Jul 14, 2003, 08:25 PM

Originally posted by frozenstar
Yeah, I think it's $10 each way. I've heard some horror stories about those busses though. The drivers are insane. Is your life worth $20? The Chinatown bus is scary. Don't take it.

Thank you for the heads up, I greatly appreciate the information. It sounds like one of those, that you get what you pay for!

bennetsaysargh

Jul 14, 2003, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by frozenstar
I think those numbers are meaningless at this point. Tons of people register on-site. We should wait to see what Wednesday's attendance is if we want a fair comparison between this and previous MacWorlds.

i forgot about that. but it still won't be as big as previous ones have.

also, does anyone know out? lol:p

wdlove

Jul 15, 2003, 01:47 PM

I had thought about going just for one day, but with travel time not sure it would be worth the trouble. The actual time to visit exhibits would be limited. Last year my overall impression was diasppointment. I'm like Mr. Anderson, the money will be of more value to me if it goes toward my new G5!

zach

Jul 16, 2003, 08:52 PM

I'm gonna be there on Thursday.

I'm only going to see the G5's. :D

frozenstar

Jul 16, 2003, 09:59 PM

I was there today to see Joswiak's keynote, and to check out the new Power Macs. The keynote was lackluster. The Power Macs were incredible.

teabgs

Jul 17, 2003, 09:22 AM

Joswiaks speech was Steve's from WWDC. I left during it.

The G5's seemed good, but they don't let you play with them. They have an apple employee at each one and you tell them what to do and they do it for you because it is a "protoype machine with a beta OS".

That pissed me off. PLus the expo was really really small.

frozenstar

Jul 17, 2003, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by teabgs
The G5's seemed good, but they don't let you play with them. They have an apple employee at each one and you tell them what to do and they do it for you because it is a "protoype machine with a beta OS".

They let me play with them. Maybe they just didn't like you. :D

teabgs

Jul 17, 2003, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by frozenstar
They let me play with them. Maybe they just didn't like you. :D

REALLY?!! Bastards. I was playing with it and the dude slapped my hand and said we weren't allowed to touch them ourselves.

he was a dick. I might go by today some more....I'll see if I can play with it this time...

frozenstar

Jul 17, 2003, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by teabgs
REALLY?!! Bastards. I was playing with it and the dude slapped my hand and said we weren't allowed to touch them ourselves.

he was a ****. I might go by today some more....I'll see if I can play with it this time...

I just wanted to see what the machine was capable of. I had a bunch of QuickTime instances going, a few transparent Terminal windows over the movies, a Photoshop effect in progress, and some active window resizing. The machine held up very well. They even let me take off the side panel. Though despite all my begging and pleading, they wouldn't let me remove the plastic cover...

bcsimac

Jul 17, 2003, 02:18 PM

Wow, I never heard of Apple being so picky! I have gone to MacWorld many times, and I always got to play around as much as I wanted with any Mac on display. Steve must be on super-protect mode or something!

BigJayhawk

Jul 17, 2003, 08:35 PM

I, too, ordered the "FREE" tickets. I was excited about going and the tickets HAVE NEVER EVEN BEEN SENT! If I go to my order confirmation it simply says that my order is confirmed on the 9th (I even got a confirmation email) but that NO SHIPPING has taken place.

I know beggars can't be choosers and all, but the TIX are now $10 more than if would have ordered them direct and after all of the minute by minute updates from the various sites (ok, hour by hour maybe), I'm not sure I'm going.

I think mainly it's the bad taste of the FREE TICKET PRESS STUNT. Has ANYONE received their tickets? (It's a bit late to receive them on FRIDAY.)

zach

Jul 17, 2003, 08:37 PM

Well, i was there today, and they let us play with them all we wanted, with the exception of the one machine running Panther. THAT one we couldn't use without an Apple Employee watching us, but we were allowed to play a little while they watched.

My friend and I even convinced the Apple guy to take the plastic cover off the G5 on the rotating pedestal and look at the fans, processers etc.

He even said you can run it just fine with the metal cover off and the plastic one on.

w00t! now I can show my friends the beautiful wiring (which, by the way, is perfect, which I am sure helps the airflow).