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groovebuster
Jul 11, 2003, 02:37 AM
Maybe interesting for some of us to check it out. Ulysses is a new text editor (Mac exclusive) for creative writers. Here we go...

Link to Ulysses (http://www.blue-tec.com/)

groovebuster

hvfsl
Jul 11, 2003, 04:20 AM
I will try it but I want a word processor that has a spell/gramar checker that is as good as the one in M$ Word, but without the high price of Word.

chicagdan
Jul 11, 2003, 06:57 AM
want a word processor that has a spell/gramar checker that is as good as the one in M$ Word

Then I suppose you want a horrible grammar checker. Only a complete fool would use the MS grammar checker, it's a ridiculous and counterproductive feature.

Personally, as a writer, I like the idea of boutique word processing programs built around tasks. Final Draft is a brilliant piece of software for writing scripts in the perfect format. I hope Ulysses can develop a niche and stick to it instead of attempting a hopeless frontal assault on MS.

tiselday
Jul 11, 2003, 07:09 AM
I am looking for such a kind of light-weight, fast text editor. But then, what I most need is a multiple language thesaurus, as I routinely write in four languages..

Browsing at the forums at Ulysses' homepage i've found this:

You're completely right. But there is a big problem - There is no such Thesaurus. So either Apple will provide developers with one or we'll have to find one. We've planed this for a long time. If we find a chance to integrate it, we'll do so, of course.

So, i guess i will have to wait a bit longer. Does anyone, by the way, know of such a text editor with multiple language support?

Tomas :)

hvfsl
Jul 12, 2003, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by chicagdan
Then I suppose you want a horrible grammar checker. Only a complete fool would use the MS grammar checker, it's a ridiculous and counterproductive feature.



Yes but I am dyslexic and often make silly grammar/selling mistakes which M$ Word is very good at picking up on. I often get in the 80% range when using word for Uni work. When I started Uni I was using Appleworks and rarely got above 70%

medea
Jul 12, 2003, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by hvfsl
Yes but I am dyslexic and often make silly grammar/selling mistakes which M$ Word is very good at picking up on. I often get in the 80% range when using word for Uni work. When I started Uni I was using Appleworks and rarely got above 70%
If you are truly dyslexic you should get a writing tutor to help counteract that, you can re-teach your brain to function differently, don't rely on a spell check for a problem like that.

hvfsl
Jul 12, 2003, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by medea
If you are truly dyslexic you should get a writing tutor to help counteract that, you can re-teach your brain to function differently, don't rely on a spell check for a problem like that.

Where did you get that from, I have never heard about this before and I have been to see some of the best experts in Europe. I don't think you quite understand what dyslexia is.

It is basically where a part of your brain is missing and the other parts have to make up for this loss. However the other parts can not always do it as well as the part they are replacing. Also dyslexic brains work around 100 times faster than 'normal' brains which causes more errors for people (we don't have very good error checking). There is no way to re-grow the part of the brain that is damaged. The only thing dyslexics can do is slow down. However, this is not posible when doing work. So programs like M$ are good at helping to compensate for this.

Some of the cleverest people are/were dyslexic, like Einstein.

idea_hamster
Jul 13, 2003, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by tiselday
Does anyone, by the way, know of such a text editor with multiple language support?


I think that the word processor that was designed to work with multiple languages is Nisus Writer (www.nisus.com). Unfortunately, they have been absolutely sluggish in turning out a native OS X version. (Official reason for delay: Ground-up re-write in Cocoa.)

The original version, still available for Classic, supports everything: multiple languages, right-to-left text input. The current OS X cut-down version (called "Express") isn't full-featured yet (e.g., no footnotes...).

Hopefully, they'll get their act together soon.

zimv20
Jul 14, 2003, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by chicagdan

Personally, as a writer, I like the idea of boutique word processing programs built around tasks. Final Draft is a brilliant piece of software for writing scripts in the perfect format. I hope Ulysses can develop a niche and stick to it instead of attempting a hopeless frontal assault on MS.

i was wondering if anyone was going to mention Final Draft. i also use it, w/ great success.

looking at the ulysses site, i can't quite figure out their target audience. should i be taking "creative writer" literally, meaning it's suitable for scriptwriting? (the features and screenshots sure don't show that)

or do they mean "creative people who need to write things down?" iow, they examined the why creative minds organize things and built the program around that.