Apple's Soundtrack now Standalone

[MacRumors]

Per MacMinute, Apple announed (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030716/sfw053_1.html) that Soundtrack will be offered as a standalone product in August.

Soundtrack (http://www.apple.com/soundtrack/) was originally introduced as an additional feature accompanying Final Cut Pro 4.

Soundtrack includes more than 4,000 royalty-free, professionally-recorded audio loops and sound effects, giving creative professionals such as video editors, DVD authors and web developers a powerful and easy-to-use tool to create high-quality music scores. Soundtrack scales to meet the needs of audio producers, DJs and remix artists who start their projects in Soundtrack and then migrate to a digital audio workstation, such as Logic or Pro Tools, for the rest of their work.

[Tiauguinho]

I tried Soundtrack on FCP 4 and i think its very but very good!! This is one thing ill buy!

[yumpin yiminy]

just saw somewhere that the new adobe production bundle contains what used to be CoolEditPro, a sound/track editor.
I hadn't put two and two together as to apple's offering, but, the two A's are going after the same market...

[Freg3000]

Hopefully it will be at MWCP for me to play with!

[hvfsl]

Originally posted by Freg3000
Hopefully it will be at MWCP for me to play with!

What is MWCP? Is it meant to be MacWorld Paris, if so why the 'C'?

[l0uis_cyph3r]

Originally posted by hvfsl
What is MWCP? Is it meant to be MacWorld Paris, if so why the 'C'?

Either this was a trick question, but I am sure he meant MacWorld Creative Pro

[Vonnie]

New promotion (I think) at the Apple store:
Trade Adobe Premiere in for Final Cut Express for free
Pay 500$ less if you upgrade from premiere to final cut pro
Final Cut Express for 99$ if you buy a new mac.

A big "**** you" from Apple to Adobe :-)

[nuckinfutz]

Originally posted by yumpin yiminy
just saw somewhere that the new adobe production bundle contains what used to be CoolEditPro, a sound/track editor.
I hadn't put two and two together as to apple's offering, but, the two A's are going after the same market...

No. Think of Audition nee Cool Edit Pro as a mini Logic. Think of Soundtrack as Acid Lite. The creator of Acid works for Apple ..so his influences are in the program.

This is good. This means Soundtrack will be updated on it's own and not on a typical Final Cut Pro cycle.

[powerbookje]

august?
it's right here http://www.apple.com/soundtrack

[robotrenegade]

Someone send me a disk image of the app.

[drastik]

Originally posted by robotrenegade
Someone send me a disk image of the app.

We don't do that around here.

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Soundtrack looks great, can't wait to check it out.

[King Cobra]

A few queries to any FCP4 user:

Can Soundtrack also generate audio just as Sound Studio can? (i.e. add tone, add frequencies)

Can Soundtrack also change the pitch of an audio clip but keep the duration the same?

If so, then I think I'll be picking this app up.

[altivec 2003]

I think it looks really cool. I might actually get it. I haven't, of course, tried it out with final cut pro 4, but it looks like it is well worth the money (or possibly the download, oh wait, I didn't say that :eek: ). I have been looking for some good mixing software for a long time and traktor dj doesn't seem to do the job :rolleyes:

[dabirdwell]

This is a good thing for FCE users like me who need an Apple-interface audio app.

[WinterMute]

This is a good move for Apple, building on the expertise they bought with Emagic and running it in the domestic domain.

I looked at this in FCP4 and it was cool, this will be a winner for Apple.

Logic is a high end app with a steep learning curve, this is iMovie for the music-loving crowd.

[illumin8]

While I think it's great that the Mac finally has a tool that can compare to Acid, it seems like this might be a bad thing, unbundling it.

Does Soundtrack have good integration with FCP4? That would be awesome to be able to grab loops and drop them directly on your timeline and not have to load a separate program and export the audio back to your FCP4 project. Maybe someone that knows the project better can tell us.

Also, it seems another reason for the unbundling is just to charge us more money.... Damn you Apple! :D Why must you make such a great inexpensive software package like FCP4 and then charge us extra for the floor mats? :D

[Edge100]

Wow! It seems to include a lot of plugins that are typically only available with much more expensive software...I'm thinking specifically of the PlatinumVerb plugin from Emagic. This is a very nice native reverb which ships only with Logic Platinum, their top end sequencer which retails for a lot more than $299.

So, in essence, I suppose if you worked with SoundTrack for loops etc., you could also make use of these plugs inside of Logic. For me, this would be excellent since I use Logic Audio (low-end Emagic sequencer) and I am stuck with SilverVerb, the low end reverb. Hmmm...

Mike

[nuckinfutz]

This is a good move for Apple, building on the expertise they bought with Emagic and running it in the domestic domain.

Soundtrack is not an Emagic product. It's the product of Apples Audio Engineers. Guys like Chris Moulios(Acid inventor) Chris Rogers, and others.

Can Soundtrack also generate audio just as Sound Studio can? (i.e. add tone, add frequencies)

Can Soundtrack also change the pitch of an audio clip but keep the duration the same?


I know you can adjust the length without changing the pitch. Not sure about the first one though.

[P-Worm]

Originally posted by King Cobra
A few queries to any FCP4 user:

Can Soundtrack also generate audio just as Sound Studio can? (i.e. add tone, add frequencies)

Can Soundtrack also change the pitch of an audio clip but keep the duration the same?

If so, then I think I'll be picking this app up.

I don't think that you can import audio files if that is what you mean. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see any "import audio file" or anything similar to that.

I don't think that you can add notes either.

However you can change speed without adjusting pitch and pitch without changing speed.

You might be looking for something like the amazing slow downer (http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/6740). That program does not allow you to make your own music though, just change speed and pitch and stuff.

So basically, I don't know what you really want. Are you trying to compose or listen to things slower so you can play them?

P-Worm

[giffut]

It seems as all major new software from Apple requires at least a 500 Mhz G4.

http://www.apple.com/soundtrack/specs.html

So what does this mean for the iBook, the last G3? They need to make their product portfolio compatible with those specs, other people will get pretty frustrated not to be able to use those titles although they come from Apple itself and they bought a CPU from them, which doesn´t cut it.

We´re not talking about hacks like for iChatAV, which makes it run on G3 as far down as 500Mhz (choppy though). This is nothing a normal user can either think of nor will he actually do it without expert knowloedge he mostly doesn´t have and doesn´t need to have. It should work out of the box: new software together with the actual hardware.

I guess the Mohave IBM G3 with Altivec/ Velocity engine (IBMs G4) in the range of 1 to 1q.5 Ghz is very close around the corner to go into the iBook and the new Powerbooks, too, I speculate.

Any ideas?

G.

[solvs]

Originally posted by illumin8
Why must you make such a great inexpensive software package like FCP4 and then charge us extra for the floor mats?
As far as I can tell, it still comes with FCP 4. You only have to buy it if you're using something else. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Squire]

Originally posted by WinterMute
...this is iMovie for the music-loving crowd.

And it's exactly what I've been looking for.

Put me down for one.

Squire

[Fredo Viola]

Originally posted by nuckinfutz
No. Think of Audition nee Cool Edit Pro as a mini Logic. Think of Soundtrack as Acid Lite. The creator of Acid works for Apple ..so his influences are in the program.

This is good. This means Soundtrack will be updated on it's own and not on a typical Final Cut Pro cycle.

Think of this as little Logic, dude. Apple owns Emagic, who make Logic. I'm a Logic user and recognize the effect they have pictured as one directly from Logic. Perhaps certian features have been rebuilt, and if they have been effected by the Acid dude, that's cool. But I sincerely hope that it's based on Logic. Logic is amazing software. Looking at the included plugins, it looks like it is. And OF COURSE YOU CAN INPUT AUDIO!!!!

[Flowbee]

Originally posted by illumin8


Also, it seems another reason for the unbundling is just to charge us more money.... Damn you Apple! :D Why must you make such a great inexpensive software package like FCP4 and then charge us extra for the floor mats? :D

I believe that SoundTrack will still be included as a feature of FCP4. The story says that Apple will *also* sell SoundTrack as a stand-alone product (for people who don't need FCP).

[Jeff Harrell]

Originally posted by illumin8
Does Soundtrack have good integration with FCP4?
Not especially. Drag-and-drop isn't really an option because Final Cut Pro and Soundtrack, like all the Pro apps, are designed to present a full-screen user interface. So it's literally not possible to switch between FCP and Soundtrack in such a way that the windows overlap... at least not without a lot of work.

The interaction between FCP and Soundtrack, and LiveType, is strictly an import-export thing. It works very well, but it's not *tight* integration.

Also, it seems another reason for the unbundling is just to charge us more money.... Damn you Apple! :D Why must you make such a great inexpensive software package like FCP4 and then charge us extra for the floor mats? :D
Uh? Final Cut Pro still comes with Soundtrack. And LiveType, and Cinema Tools, and Compressor. For $999.

[solvs]

Uh, look up. I already said that.

Originally posted by P-Worm
I don't think that you can import audio files if that is what you mean. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see any "import audio file" or anything similar to that.

There's an import feature listed on the both the FCP section and the ST page.

[asim]

soundtrack seems to be the final cut express for audio... "soundtrack lite" may be the product "imusic" which people have speculated about apple eventually producing

unlike imovie, soundtrack will not be bundled with new computers or in a $49 multimedia pack, but soundtrack lite/imusic would...

afc

[asim]

There's an import feature listed on the both the FCP section and the ST page.

Then the real question is:
Can it import/edit .m4p files from iTMS???

[nuckinfutz]

The interaction between FCP and Soundtrack, and LiveType, is strictly an import-export thing. It works very well, but it's not *tight* integration

Teehee. Methinks this will change for Final Cut Pro 5. Apple's developing quite the workflow but they need to "Digital Hub'it"


I'm thinking Logic 7 has some nifty looping functions included.

[WinterMute]

Originally posted by King Cobra
A few queries to any FCP4 user:

Can Soundtrack also generate audio just as Sound Studio can? (i.e. add tone, add frequencies)

Can Soundtrack also change the pitch of an audio clip but keep the duration the same?

If so, then I think I'll be picking this app up.

It automatically scales the library loops to whatever tempo and signature you're project is in, and you can change the pitch of any custom recording to fit the tempo of our work, I guess you can alter pitch and time independantly as you can in Logic.

I'm not sure about the tone generattion capabilities, but anything in video has to generate tones otherwise it's a bit useless, it sounds like you'd like an additive synth module built in.

[WinterMute]

Originally posted by solvs
Uh, look up. I already said that.


There's an import feature listed on the both the FCP section and the ST page.

It'll import aiff and wav files, and as it can output up to 96Khz 24-bit, I guess it'll import such as well.

[WinterMute]

This is an audio only package, it has no midi capability at all, which distances it from Logic in a big way, that's the big difference, this is a different kind of product than Logic, it's designed to support the audio in FCP/FCE/iMovie/iDVD etc. but there's still space for an entry level MIDI/audio package based on traditional sequencer dynamics.

[WinterMute]

Originally posted by asim
Then the real question is:
Can it import/edit .m4p files from iTMS???

Probably not, it's a creative audio engine that allows real-time audio recording/editing. You could always play them in froma CD I guess, or convert them to .aiff in iTunes and then import them and edit.

[SpamJunkie]

Originally posted by nuckinfutz
Think of Audition nee Cool Edit Pro as a mini Logic.

This is not true. Cool Edit Pro, pardon me, Audition, is Logic on steroids. The source clean up (noise reduction) alone is in a legue of its own. $50k rack mounted equipment isn't as good.

Cool Edit has been getting a bum rap for not having Logic or Digidesign's marketting muscle. But it is every bit as good, and more.

[nspeds]

How would this compare to Ableton Live?

[Laslo Panaflex]

Soundtrack is a looping program. If any of you guys out there are looking at it as an audio editing program, keep looking, this is not an audio editor. While you can import audio that you have recorded, you need to record from another program like pro tools. This program is for creating royalty free soundtracks for your FCP project.

So once again, this is a looping program, which in my opinion is a very good one, but anyone wanting to crop and splice songs from thier music collection or apply filters will find it very difficult and cuase themselves a great headache. I don't understand why apple is offereing this program outside of FCP other then to offer it to DJs or people that like to make monitonious looped dance tracks.

Just my opinion.

Peas.

[encro]

Originally posted by nspeds
How would this compare to Ableton Live?


Ableton Live (http://www.ableton.com) is a rock solid application with Midi and ReWire capability also.

I believe Ableton Live (http://www.ableton.com) is still the better product but I wouldn't mind having a play around with
Apple Soundtrack (http://www.apple.com/soundtrack) anyway.

[encro]

Originally posted by Laslo Panaflex
I don't understand why apple is offereing this program outside of FCP other then to offer it to DJs or people that like to make monitonious looped dance tracks.

If you are under the impression of dance music being monotonous and repetitive then you are definately listening to the wrong end of the music spectrum. I have some amazing music here that is unique, varied and very creative.

[King Cobra]

If I am not mistaken, Bias Peak can manipulate audio pitches or track length, but not change the other.

Sound Studio is demoware (actually, it's reinstallware) and I can generate any audible tones I want with Sound Studio. You know those censor beeps you hear on the radio and on TV? Sound Studio can make them.

I'm disappointed to hear about Soundtrack not being what I wanted. I think I'll stick with Bias Peak and Sound Studio for a while, as they more suit my needs. Those two put together are about $250.

[Mr. Anderson]

Ok, I have it with FCP4 and I've just played with it - its ok - some good sound effects and a great way to put things together if you record your own and need something for a video.

But its not all that easy to find what you're looking for - you could spend days fiddling with the controls and listening to all the loops.....

I'll use it from time to time, but mostly I'll do single tracks for sound effects.

D

[yumpin yiminy]

Originally posted by nuckinfutz
No. Think of Audition nee Cool Edit Pro as a mini Logic. Think of Soundtrack as Acid Lite. The creator of Acid works for Apple ..so his influences are in the program.

This is good. This means Soundtrack will be updated on it's own and not on a typical Final Cut Pro cycle.
a ha. pardon my ignorance.
admittedly, i never even installed the demo copy of Acid I have (PC only) so i really didn't remember the program exists. but, you right, Soundtrack does sound more like Acid. And, I trust you know that it is more like it.
The standalone direction makes it more accessible to to other people who work in non-FCP/multimedia. this is a good thing.

[php]

Originally posted by encro
Ableton Live (http://www.ableton.com) is a rock solid application with Midi and ReWire capability also.

I believe Ableton Live (http://www.ableton.com) is still the better product but I wouldn't mind having a play around with
Apple Soundtrack (http://www.apple.com/soundtrack) anyway.

Unfortunately, Ableton Live does not have AU support or any other virtual instrument interface format other than ReWire. Another thing is that Live is not an Altivec coded application either.

I guess the problem with Soundtrack is that it doesn't have ReWire support and therefore can't connect to Reason, even though it does support AU for other virtual instruments. If Soundtrack had ReWire, I'd use it instead of Live or MOTU DP4.

[GiantXX5]

Ok well I'm completly new to all of these music apps but I've always thought about looking into makin music. Can you really just create music from what they give you? I guess its all loops right? I like what I call electronic/ambient music and it would be cool to make it. So the loops would be good for that I guess. What apps do I want or need to start? Is soundtrack good for starters or do you think there something better?

Thanks for any advice.

[WinterMute]

Originally posted by Laslo Panaflex
Soundtrack is a looping program. If any of you guys out there are looking at it as an audio editing program, keep looking, this is not an audio editor. While you can import audio that you have recorded, you need to record from another program like pro tools. This program is for creating royalty free soundtracks for your FCP project.

So once again, this is a looping program, which in my opinion is a very good one, but anyone wanting to crop and splice songs from thier music collection or apply filters will find it very difficult and cuase themselves a great headache. I don't understand why apple is offereing this program outside of FCP other then to offer it to DJs or people that like to make monitonious looped dance tracks.

Just my opinion.

Peas.

Soundtrack records live audio as well as using loops, this from the downloadable pdf on the Soundtrack page:

[encro]

Originally posted by GiantXX5
Ok well I'm completly new to all of these music apps but I've always thought about looking into makin music. Can you really just create music from what they give you? I guess its all loops right? I like what I call electronic/ambient music and it would be cool to make it. So the loops would be good for that I guess. What apps do I want or need to start? Is soundtrack good for starters or do you think there something better?

Thanks for any advice.

It depends on your interpretation of creating music. Do you want to use someone elses structured loops to assemble in your own manner or write everything from the ground up?

Good starter apps would be either Soundtrack, Live or Phrazer.

[encro]

Originally posted by php
Unfortunately, Ableton Live does not have AU support or any other virtual instrument interface format other than ReWire. Another thing is that Live is not an Altivec coded application either.


It's not perfect but I think the fact it's not optimized for AltiVec doesn't matter. It's a very well coded application, blazing fast, VST plugins.

Unfortunately it doesn't offer Instruments nor Note programming nor AU support just as you said. Still it's a fairly new product with plenty of options for the future.

[Laslo Panaflex]

Originally posted by WinterMute
Soundtrack records live audio as well as using loops, this from the downloadable pdf on the Soundtrack page:

I stand corrected, but why would you want to use the audio in/mic for any type of recording, expecially on an iMac emac, the soud quality would not be that clear, certainly not as good as the loops that come with the app. As for using a OS X core audio compatable device, yeah those would help, but you can get a Mbox for around $450 and it comes with pro tools LE, which is much more powerful then soundtrack. Soundtrack is a system hog, requires a 733mhz g4. I run it on a 800mhz G4 and it runs pretty slow pro tools runs 10 times faster when I import the same loops. Soundtrack is much easier to use than pro tools, but the rather high price and high system requirements and slow performance make me leary of recomending it for any intense looping projects.

Sorry, but I would never buy this as a standalone app, I would just use pro tools and download free loops. It's a cool looping program for begginers, begginers that have $300 dollars to spare and a pretty high end g4.:)

Peas.

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by Laslo Panaflex
I don't understand why apple is offereing this program outside of FCP...

Just my opinion.

Peas.


Maybe because not all FCP users are using FCP 4. There are plenty of FCP 1 thru 3 users out there that could make good use of Soundtrack too.


Lethal

[Laslo Panaflex]

Originally posted by LethalWolfe
Maybe because not all FCP users are using FCP 4. There are plenty of FCP 1 thru 3 users out there that could make good use of Soundtrack too.

True, but the cost of upgrading to FCP 4 is 100 dollars more than the standalone soundtrack. They could also make good use of livetype, compressor and, oh yeah, FCP 4. Why would any FCP user upgrade to soundtrack and not udate FCP and the other apps like livetype and compressor (both very cool programs as well). The reason why the app cost so much is becuase you are paying for the 4,000 high qaulity royalty free loops, not becuase the app is so killer at audio editing.

Its a nice app, but I think that some people read it as being more than it is. . . which is just a looping program, nothing more.

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by Laslo Panaflex
True, but the cost of upgrading to FCP 4 is 100 dollars more than the standalone soundtrack. They could also make good use of livetype, compressor and, oh yeah, FCP 4. Why would any FCP user upgrade to soundtrack and not udate FCP and the other apps like livetype and compressor (both very cool programs as well).

Maybe they have an older G4 w/o an AGP slot. Maybe they aren't in a position to switch to FCP 4 because they are in the middle of a project and/or have a steady stream of projects and can't afford the down time of upgrading to 4. Maybe they don't want to be a bug finding early adopter and are going to wait a point release or 2 before they switch to FCP 4. But in the meantime the money they spend on Soundtrack will be less than their projected spending for licensed music.


Lethal

EDIT: And just for clarification, yes I do feel like being an argruementative PITA right now. ;)

[nuckinfutz]

Soundtrack is much easier to use than pro tools, but the rather high price and high system requirements and slow performance make me leary of recomending it for any intense looping projects.

You wouldn't want to compare a Looping tool like Soundtrack, Ableton Live Phrazer etc to Mbox. Mbox is a basic USB/Micrpre front end to Protools free. We're talking basic recording and light editing. Pretty much nothing for a processor.

With looping tools it's a different ballgame. You have "Realtime" Time compression and expansion AND pitchshifting. 5 years ago there would have been people that would have swore to you that it couldn't be done. It's very processor intensive. That's why pro Pitch Shifters like the Eventides are so expensive.

I find that Soundtrack is affordable.

Soundtrack- $299

Smartsound Sonicfire pro- $299+
Ableton Live- $399
Phrazer 2- $299
Phatmatic Pro - $149
Acid- $349

Soundtrack is right there. It's not the end all be all but for the musically challenged it will suffice.

[Laslo Panaflex]

Originally posted by LethalWolfe
EDIT: And just for clarification, yes I do feel like being an argruementative PITA right now. ;)

That's ok, so do I. I have never really argued about anything on the boards before (at least that I can remember).

I really just think that this program, and looping prgrams in particular are a cheap way to make music. I am probably going to get alot of flak for this, but; I feel that creating "your own" musical piece from loops that you didn't make but just put them together and say that it is your song, is like putting together a puzzle and saying that you took the picture or painted the image on the puzzle. Granted there are many holes in my analogy, but I feel that it represents my thoughts about looping programs.

I mean really, how original can you be with loops that are a maximum of 5 seconds long. If people are trying to make 2-3 minute songs that don't want to sound repetitive after 30 seconds. Maybe that's just me and my choice of creating music, by hand with your hands on actual instruments instead of prerecorded loops on your computer by someone else. Sure there are people out there that have no skill on any instruments and still love music and want to make it, well they can with soundtrack, but I woudn't want to listen to anything those people come up with.
Just me. . .

P.S. let the flames begin.

Peas.

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by Laslo Panaflex
That's ok, so do I. I have never really argued about anything on the boards before (at least that I can remember).

I really just think that this program, and looping prgrams in particular are a cheap way to make music. I am probably going to get alot of flak for this, but; I feel that creating "your own" musical piece from loops that you didn't make but just put them together and say that it is your song, is like putting together a puzzle and saying that you took the picture or painted the image on the puzzle. Granted there are many holes in my analogy, but I feel that it represents my thoughts about looping programs.

I mean really, how original can you be with loops that are a maximum of 5 seconds long. If people are trying to make 2-3 minute songs that don't want to sound repetitive after 30 seconds. Maybe that's just me and my choice of creating music, by hand with your hands on actual instruments instead of prerecorded loops on your computer by someone else. Sure there are people out there that have no skill on any instruments and still love music and want to make it, well they can with soundtrack, but I woudn't want to listen to anything those people come up with.
Just me. . .

P.S. let the flames begin.

Peas.

Not a flame but I think you are missing the point of Soundtrack. Soundtrack is there to let editors have access to royalty free back ground music. Licensing music isn't cheap. So why spend thousands of dollars on a library of generic music when, if you have the time and enough musical ability, you could use Soundtrack. I doubt we'll see anyone scoring a movie w/Soundtrack, but it's peferct for short form stuff like commercials, soft news stories, PR videos, training videos, Electronic Press Kits.


Lethal

[WinterMute]

Inevitably, pro apps like ProTools, Logic etc are infinitely better as creative tools than Soundtrack or Acid or any of the other apps that are designed to allow the unmusical to create music, Soundtracks strength (and the reason it hogs processor power) is the aformentioned ability to time and pitch stretch in realtime, along with the alignment of keys in dispirit loops.

Add to that the ability too change arrangement and tempo and have all the loops align automatically and you have a feature that neither logic or ProTools have, and bloody useful it is too.

Soundtrack is designed, as lethal points out, to create quick bespoke backing that is cheap and original (to a degree) the recording function is a nice touch for live instrument tracks and VO work, but with 128 tracks to use this also becomes an excellent audio post production tool inside FCP or along side FCE. That alone is worth the price of admission, Foley and ADR work against the edit rather than a copy is a real productivity boost in FCP equipped post pro houses, I can see Soundtrack becoming a replacement for ProTools in some low level facilities.

Recording audio into the line in of an iMac or eMac is actually pretty succesful provided you have a good mic and pre-amp combination, sure, hardware like the M-box is nice, but there's plenty of scope in the Apple hardware.

[CmdrLaForge]

Why the hell does it need a G4 processor ?

Apple has still iBooks with G3 in their current product offering. So why is does this program need a G4 ?

If it is slow on a G3 - thats OK, but not running ?

Anyone already purchased this app ?

Cheers
CmdrLaForge

Here the System Requirements

* Macintosh Computer with a single 500MHz or dual 450MHz or faster PowerPC G4 processor
* Mac OS X v 10.2.5 or later
* QuickTime 6.1 or later
* 384MB of RAM (512MB recommended)
* CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive required for installation of Soundtrack.
* DVD-ROM drive required for installation of Apple Loops (optional)
* 5GB of available disk space required for application and content installation

[peterjhill]

Probably because it needs altivec to run smoothly. That would be my guess.

[LethalWolfe]

Originally posted by CmdrLaForge
Why the hell does it need a G4 processor ?

Apple has still iBooks with G3 in their current product offering. So why is does this program need a G4 ?

If it is slow on a G3 - thats OK, but not running ?

Anyone already purchased this app ?

Cheers
CmdrLaForge

Here the System Requirements

* Macintosh Computer with a single 500MHz or dual 450MHz or faster PowerPC G4 processor
* Mac OS X v 10.2.5 or later
* QuickTime 6.1 or later
* 384MB of RAM (512MB recommended)
* CD-ROM or DVD-ROM drive required for installation of Soundtrack.
* DVD-ROM drive required for installation of Apple Loops (optional)
* 5GB of available disk space required for application and content installation

As peterjhill said it probably needs a altivec. And this is not a consumer app it's a pro app and like Apple's other pro apps it requires a G4.


Lethal