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MacBytes
Jul 18, 2003, 01:25 PM
Category: Mac Websites
Link: John Manzione at MacNet discusses the recent trend of asking for Donations at Mac Sites and the possible consequences (http://www.macnet2.com/more.php?id=373_0_1_0_M)

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arn
Jul 18, 2003, 01:31 PM
interesting article... as it does reflect the recent trend in internet... larger sites are having a harder time keeping things going.

Now, I think he overestimates MacSurfer's size -- he compares it to Apple.com in traffic. ( For rough estimates of site sizes, you can use http://www.alexa.com )

If MacRumors actually had a staff (paid employee's), there's no way it could actually make any money.

MacRumors is still, for the most part, a hobby site.

arn

AtariST
Jul 18, 2003, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by arn
interesting article... as it does reflect the recent trend in internet... larger sites are having a harder time keeping things going.


Definitely exaggerating some points.. and most of the pages listed, such as MacMinute and MacSurfer, are relatively low-bandwidth sites (they don't have forums etc. and are mainly text.) Traffic costs shouldn't be outrageously high for such sites. And I agree with what someone commented, "Asking for spare change is not my idea of a real business plan." That's just a quick fix to a larger problem.

crenz
Jul 18, 2003, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by arn
Now, I think he overestimates MacSurfer's size -- he compares it to Apple.com in traffic.

Well, according to alexa.com, MacRumor's "traffic rank" (whatever that means) is much higher than macsurfer.com...

You can do a comparision at http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&range=6m&size=medium&url=http://www.macrumors.com#top (enter any domain in the comparision box in the middle of the page). MR doesn't fare too well against apple.com, though :).

arn
Jul 18, 2003, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by AtariST
Definitely exaggerating some points.. and most of the pages listed, such as MacMinute and MacSurfer, are relatively low-bandwidth sites (they don't have forums etc. and are mainly text.) Traffic costs shouldn't be outrageously high for such sites. And I agree with what someone commented, "Asking for spare change is not my idea of a real business plan." That's just a quick fix to a larger problem.

Very true.

There's also a fine line between asking and begging. A line that I've seen crossed a few times. :)

btw, MacSurfer would benefit from being gziped (http://leknor.com/code/gziped.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.macsurfer.com%2F), as would MacMinute - esp as they are such highly text based sites.

Atari -- as for Spymac - I cringe when I think of the bandwidth that is used there. :)

But I think their costs are due to paying staff rather than the actual bandwidth.

arn

arn
Jul 18, 2003, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by crenz
Well, according to alexa.com, MacRumor's "traffic rank" (whatever that means) is much higher than macsurfer.com...


the only caveat is that these stats are derived from PC web viewers... MacRumors probably draws more traffic from potential "switchers" (PC users) than MacSurfer does... so may be skewed.

arn

Mr. Anderson
Jul 20, 2003, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by arn
MacRumors is still, for the most part, a hobby site.

Even so, its still a great resource and very serious. Even though we have 20k members and I would imagine a majority of those not active, the site still does pretty well, and the demi-god/contributor option was a great way to make ends meet and get people more involved.

I'm surprised there aren't more sites that have the same sort of set up as you have here.

D