Tired of 4 gig iPhone bashers! [Archive]

BigPrince

Jul 6, 2007, 09:01 PM

I love my 4 gig and it meets my needs. I have 370 songs and three 1 hour 15 min music videos.

I have 150 mb left for software updates and can easily remove a playlist for more storage should i need it.

I love it and I just wish people could understand that 4 gig is not a joke and for some people its enough.

I keep reading these posts about "better resale for the 8 gig"

I don't know about you, but I do not buy things and think about reselling them as one my factors for purchasing.

Others say that we are are a "serious disadvantage" for software updates. Dude the software updates are not going to take up the whole phone as someone kindly pointed out to me in another thread.

In conclusion I feel that the 4 gig is still a nice phone and I have NO REMORSE of getting it.

Anyone else with me or am I the only happy 4 gig owner?

zedsdead

Jul 6, 2007, 09:19 PM

I have an 8, but yes, I agree that the 4-Gig bashing is annoying. Not everyone needs 8 Gigs of space. I watch a lot of Video, so I wanted it. Some people don't need it. Currently we have two iPhones in the family (both 8 Gig), but the next one will be 4 since that person only needs some music and pictures. It's about what good for that person. At least Apple gave people a choice. Would it have been nice if it was a choice between 8 and 16 gig, yes, but it wasn't.

kevinwiz

Jul 6, 2007, 09:21 PM

i have a 4 gig and i only used half. i have some of my favorite playlists and a few episodes of the office and like 40 photos. mind you i have a 16gb itunes library but i don't need most of that.

sonictonic

Jul 6, 2007, 09:24 PM

I'm with ya. 4GB iPhone owners unite! :D

I have kinda thought about "oh man I wonder if I shoulda gotten the 8GB" a little bit, but, the bottom line is that my iTunes library is about 80GB total, so the difference between 4GB and 8GB really is not that much to me. Not to mention do I want to use up my phone battery watching 3-4 movies instead of 1-2 (for example)?

uscmatt

Jul 6, 2007, 09:32 PM

I bought a 4gb because they didnt have the 8gb. Im glad i did since i only use 25% of the space. Just gives me more money to send through itunes

pcguru83

Jul 6, 2007, 09:42 PM

In conclusion I feel that the 4 gig is still a nice phone and I have NO REMORSE of getting it.

Anyone else with me or am I the only happy 4 gig owner?
Sounds to me like you're trying to justify your purchase to yourself. ;) :p

But hey, if that makes you feel better, have at it. :D

diamond.g

Jul 6, 2007, 09:44 PM

Shoot, my wife asked for a 4GB. I imagine there are tons of people like her.

Sobe

Jul 6, 2007, 10:05 PM

why would anyone "bash" a 4 gig iphone?

You just put less content on it..woop dee doo, eveything else is the same.

I have about 2 gigs free now on my 8 gb phone, with tons of music and photos I will probably never even look at on there.

I could easily edit down my stuff to 4 but I figured for $100 why not get the max available.

Silly, just ignore it and enjoy your phone.

Darthzilla

Jul 6, 2007, 10:39 PM

Im dying to get an iPhone..and It'll be a 4gig.

I alreayd have a video ipod...it goes everywhere with me...its got like 40 gigs of music, and a bunch of movies...done and done....

I can see having an iPhone, and putting a playlist or two on ( also i hear the syncing is a bit annoying ) just so i can try the iPod out on it...and maybe a movie or two ( ripped myself so they are around 500 megs )

But I want the phone and the e-mail and the internet ...thats what this thing does so well....

so 4 Gigs is a better deal for me.

especially since i'll be FINALLY upgrading to 10.4 ( from 10.3.9 ) ...was hoping to skip a release...but oh well.... lol

David R

Jul 6, 2007, 10:39 PM

I know three different people who got the 4G because that was plenty for them. I don't see anything wrong with that. You get what you need.

AbsenceOfTruth

Jul 6, 2007, 10:58 PM

Sobe

Jul 6, 2007, 11:08 PM

8GB is way too little for me, that's why i got the 4GB. I own a 60gb iPod... makes sense doesn't it?

Until they come out with a 60-80GB iPhone that's when I will throw away my iPod... till' then no thanks to 8GB or 16GB. :p

Seriously, what they heck do you do that you need to carry 60-80 gigs of storage around with you?

AbsenceOfTruth

Jul 6, 2007, 11:22 PM

Seriously, what they heck do you do that you need to carry 60-80 gigs of storage around with you?

Music my friend. I have 40gb filled of it on my iPod. ;)

youyou

Jul 6, 2007, 11:52 PM

I bought a 4gb and 3 days later returned it for a 8gb.
I realized that 4gb was way too little... I just couldnt handle it being on my mind all the time. For 100$ you get twice the storage... It's a no brainer...

Clix Pix

Jul 7, 2007, 12:00 AM

Because I am into photography I bought the 8 GB so that I'll have plenty of room on my iPhone for both my (favorite/best) photos and my music from iTunes..... Otherwise I would have gone with the 4 GB. I don't see why people are bashing the 4 GB...well, just ignore them! Definitely if you've also got an iPod it's easy enough to modify the choices in iTunes so that you don't synchronize all of your music into the iPhone if it's going to be more than the iPhone's capacity.... Use the iPod, use the iPhone....balance things out.

That said, financially it does seem to be a better deal to buy an 8 GB iPhone for $600, just $100 over the price of the 4 GB iPhone.....

hcopp

Jul 7, 2007, 12:04 AM

with 80 gigs of music and another 40-50 worth of video, what is the point in spending 100 dollars more on an 8 gig when it will give me 5% more of my library. go big or go home.

I have 30 albums on my iPhone right now, they were easy to pick as they are 30 of my favorite albums, anything more and it would be too much of a hassle to decide what albums to put on there.

needless to say 4 GB is more than enough for me and I am incredibly content with my purchase.

uberfoto

Jul 7, 2007, 12:10 AM

It's a 500 dollar PHONE. What kind of 'tard would spend ANOTHER $100 for a measly 4GB more space? It was crazy to spend $500 in the first place.

And why would you need to listen to music so often. Give your ears and head a break. Listen to nothing. Listen to the breeze or have a conversation with somebody for crying out loud. How many movies must you watch? Stop playing with your toys and enjoy the world around you. It might not be here much longer at the rate we consume things... ;) Gotta have our $600 phones.

Yeah, I got one (4GB) and it has music and movies on it too... but I never get a chance to watch any of the movies or listen to the music. I have an iPod in my car and the rest of my time is spent working and with family/friends.

It's nice to check my email, get directions and check the weather. It makes having a phone fun but remember, it is still just a phone. I can think of a lot more fun/better things to do with that $100.

:D

AbsenceOfTruth

Jul 7, 2007, 12:41 AM

I also realized that $100 more for an extra 4GB isn't worth it... I'll be waiting for a 40gb (atleast) iPhone in the future. Until then I'm extremely happy with my 4gb iPhone. :)

retnuh730

Jul 7, 2007, 12:43 AM

I also realized that $100 more for an extra 4GB isn't worth it... I'll be waiting for a 40gb (atleast) iPhone in the future. Until then I'm extremely happy with my 4gb iPhone. :)

I find it funny how people with the 4GB version only seem happy about it when they convince themselves by posting about it. You can afford 500, you can afford 600. nuff said.

siurpeeman

Jul 7, 2007, 12:48 AM

i thought about getting a 4 gb iphone...for all of two minutes. while i really have nothing against it, i figured i'd have no problems filling my 8 gb model. i just don't want to deal with managing what goes on there and what doesn't. i want to keep a set amount of music (right now, 900 songs) and have a couple movies and tv shows with a little room to spare. again, i have nothing against the 4 gb model, and i'm all for the people who went out and got one; it's just not for me.

milks

Jul 7, 2007, 12:51 AM

ive been waiting for this thread!! i too am a 4GB iphone owner... who also has a 60GB ipod. I got the 4GB because it was the only one left.. i probably would have gotten an 8GB but im glad i got the 4. It serves me well.. I dont really plan on putting videos as I didnt put any videos on my 60GB ipod. i just have been filling it up with my favorite tunes to listen to on the go. so yes .. one week later i am happy with my purchase .. so just shake the haters off :cool: .

retnuh730

Jul 7, 2007, 12:53 AM

AbsenceOfTruth

Jul 7, 2007, 12:54 AM

I find it funny how people with the 4GB version only seem happy about it when they convince themselves by posting about it. You can afford 500, you can afford 600. nuff said.

Who said I couldn't afford $600? I just thought it wasn't worth it, that's all. If there was an 60gb iPhone for $1000 i would've gotten that instead... what does that tell you?

retnuh730

Jul 7, 2007, 12:56 AM

Who said I couldn't afford $600? I just thought it wasn't worth it, that's all. If there was an 60gb iPhone for $1000 i would've gotten that instead... what does that tell you?

Dude, thats the same thing as saying you wont get a 30GB iPod because it isnt 100GB. Whats wrong with getting the best of something you're investing so much in, especially if you can afford it.

motorazr

Jul 7, 2007, 12:58 AM

I only bought the 8GB cause I figured I might want space for my small (1.6GB) library to grow. Right now I have 3.78GB free, and only because of my 2hr movie (unnecessary)and photos (debatable). The 4GB iPhone is just as capable as the 8GB and is more than enough for some. No bashing is needed.

EDIT: And for some people, like myself, it is a stretch to get an iphone; being that I could only afford a 4GB but a last minute craigslist sale gave me my extra $100 or so. If you own any iPhone it already gives the status symbol and it is the best, most capable smart-phone around, no matter what size!

milks

Jul 7, 2007, 12:58 AM

No videos? Come on man, that 3.5 inch screen is a waste as a cover art mirror.

LOL. youtube has me taken care of in the video department.

AbsenceOfTruth

Jul 7, 2007, 01:01 AM

Dude, thats the same thing as saying you wont get a 30GB iPod because it isnt 100GB. Whats wrong with getting the best of something you're investing so much in, especially if you can afford it.

So what? I saved $100 on space I'm probably not gonna even use except only for videos. I bought the iPhone mainly for using it as a phone at this point as I own a high capacity iPod.

siurpeeman

Jul 7, 2007, 01:05 AM

So what? I saved $100 on space I'm probably not gonna even use except only for videos. I bought the iPhone mainly for using it as a phone at this point as I own a high capacity iPod.

that's a fair point, purchasing the iphone squarely for the phone features. i'm sure a lot of people, however, see the iphone as an opportunity to buy it as a convergence device, something that could eliminate the need to carry both an ipod and a phone. as such, i want all the space i can carry, and i don't think 4 gb would have been enough for me.

AbsenceOfTruth

Jul 7, 2007, 01:08 AM

that's a fair point, purchasing the iphone squarely for the phone features. i'm sure a lot of people, however, see the iphone as an opportunity to buy it as a convergence device, something that could eliminate the need to carry both an ipod and a phone. as such, i want all the space i can carry, and i don't think 4 gb would have been enough for me.

yeah i totally agree, but I gotta have all my music. It would be too hard for me to just pick certain albums and put them on the iphone due to limited space. So I think my best bet is to use both devices as of now and wait for a higher capacity iPhone. :D

California

Jul 7, 2007, 01:09 AM

I imagine that the first generation iPhones will be eligible for upgrade to a larger hd chip (16gb or 32gb) in the same way that hard drives are able to be upgraded -- by Apple Certified Techs. When thelarger chips come around, you just buy one but to keep your iPHone warranty, you have to have an Apple Tech put it into the phone for you.

In that scenario, it doesn't matter if you got the 4 or 8 gb.

I could be wrong about this, but I cannot see how Apple would care if a Tech put the new chip in down the line.

retnuh730

Jul 7, 2007, 01:09 AM

So what? I saved $100 on space I'm probably not gonna even use except only for videos. I bought the iPhone mainly for using it as a phone at this point as I own a high capacity iPod.

Then remind me again why the hell you didnt get a 400 dollar cheaper phone?

siurpeeman

Jul 7, 2007, 01:10 AM

AbsenceOfTruth

Jul 7, 2007, 01:17 AM

Then remind me again why the hell you didnt get a 400 dollar cheaper phone?

Simple. iPhone is one of a kind. ;)

Ampidire

Jul 7, 2007, 01:21 AM

has apple in its entire history done something that would lead you to believe this? :confused:

yeah.. that definitely isn't going to happen; that dude can keep dreaming though...

v-ault

Jul 7, 2007, 01:34 AM

Memory is not the bottleneck of the iphone's potential right now. It's the battery. I was thinking about the 8 gig Iphone. But I figured, what's the point? I'd need the extra room for movies, but videos will drain the battery badly. I use the Iphone for what it's intended for, a communication device, whether phone or internet. And if a video is going to stop me from doing that because of the battery, I don't see the point. Until some super lasting batteries come out, All of these all in one devices will be bottlenecked. Once the great batteries come out, all in one devices such as the iphone will really be worth using for everything.

Darthzilla

Jul 7, 2007, 01:41 AM

So what? I saved $100 on space I'm probably not gonna even use except only for videos. I bought the iPhone mainly for using it as a phone at this point as I own a high capacity iPod.

Exactly....

As a convergence device...its cool..but for 500 bucks..its a pretty terrible iPod. A choice between 4 and 8 Gigs ?

The iPod part of the phone seems like an after thought...its almost a lite version of what an iPod is...and thats cool...but I thought the point of an iPod was to have your whole music collection in your pocket....and for video....the movies on iTunes are like a gig and half to begin with, so you can't put more then a few on there if your also gonna have music.

I can save 100 bucks ...which will be good cause the thought of paying 500 bucks for a phone makes me mental.

OR I'll actually be able to wait until theres iPhone 2 or an iPhone nano...Once this beta test is over, and get a kick ass 8 gig touch screen phone for like 300 bucks. While regular iPhones stay at 500 bucks and go to like 20 gigs.

siurpeeman

Jul 7, 2007, 01:46 AM

The iPod part of the phone seems like an after thought...its almost a lite version of what an iPod is...and thats cool...but I thought the point of an iPod was to have your whole music collection in your pocket....and for video....the movies on iTunes are like a gig and half to begin with, so you can't put more then a few on there if your also gonna have music.

most people's music collections don't go beyond 1,000 songs. remember, that was the original catch phrase of the ipod, "a thousand songs in your pocket." aside from the song capacity, i think the iphone handles the ipod functions very well. anything the ipod can do that the iphone can't (lyrics) can easily be fixed with a software update.

AbsenceOfTruth

Jul 7, 2007, 01:55 AM

Exactly....

As a convergence device...its cool..but for 500 bucks..its a pretty terrible iPod. A choice between 4 and 8 Gigs ?

The iPod part of the phone seems like an after thought...its almost a lite version of what an iPod is...and thats cool...but I thought the point of an iPod was to have your whole music collection in your pocket....and for video....the movies on iTunes are like a gig and half to begin with, so you can't put more then a few on there if your also gonna have music.

I can save 100 bucks ...which will be good cause the thought of paying 500 bucks for a phone makes me mental.

OR I'll actually be able to wait until theres iPhone 2 or an iPhone nano...Once this beta test is over, and get a kick ass 8 gig touch screen phone for like 300 bucks. While regular iPhones stay at 500 bucks and go to like 20 gigs.

Couldn't agree with you more... but I couldn't resist. The iPhone is really a amazing product and I intend to use it to it's fullest until an upgraded version comes around and replace it with it so I could use it as an iPod/iPhone.

milks

Jul 7, 2007, 02:00 AM

id like to add that one week prior to the glorious june 29th date... i bought an att 8525 thinking what many of the doubters thought (the keyboard will suck.. i will be a beta tester.. no IM) suffered from a bad case of buyers remorse returned it and got an 4gb iPhone on the 29th. :D

powerbook911

Jul 7, 2007, 02:42 AM

8GB is too little for me, but I would *never* bash a 4GB iPhone. It's identical and as great in every way except in how much music and videos it holds. That is the only difference, so who cares?

People who got the 4GB saved $100-$108 (tax), and they have less space, but they have an amazing phone, iPod, and Safari (makes no difference to Safari).

The 4GB iPhone is still an iPhone and does everything mine does!

California

Jul 7, 2007, 03:43 AM

has apple in its entire history done something that would lead you to believe this? :confused:

Yes. This is the standard policy for harddrive replacement. If you buy it from an Apple Certified Tech and have them replace it for you, you are still under warranty.

yeah.. that definitely isn't going to happen; that dude can keep dreaming though...

You buy the larger chip from an ACT, and have them replace it. This is the standard method of keeping your warranty now. The catch is you have to buy the hard drive from the ACT, which is usually full retail. I know because I've done this.

Sobe

Jul 7, 2007, 03:48 AM

I hear that people who buy 4 gig iPhones smell really bad.

I *definitely* wouldn't want to call any ol' 4 gig phone with my amazingly shiny and superior 8 gig phone.

It just ain't right.

zedsdead

Jul 7, 2007, 05:58 AM

most people's music collections don't go beyond 1,000 songs. remember, that was the original catch phrase of the ipod, "a thousand songs in your pocket." aside from the song capacity, i think the iphone handles the ipod functions very well. anything the ipod can do that the iphone can't (lyrics) can easily be fixed with a software update.

How does an iPod do Lyrics?

On that subject, wouldn't it be great if Apple incorporated the Interactive Booklets into the iPhone. With Pinching and all, you could just scroll through a booklet. I think it would be awesome. Of course, then Apple would need to start selling them to people who simply burned the song into iTunes.

siurpeeman

Jul 7, 2007, 06:04 AM

How does an iPod do Lyrics?

if you go into the song info in itunes, there's a tab for lyrics. syncing to an ipod will transfer the lyrics over, and you can access them by pressing the center button on the ipod, cycling through a few windows (artwork, rating, etc.) until you get to the lyrics screen.

zgh1999

Jul 7, 2007, 06:25 AM

Everyone should buy TWO 8 gig iPhones.

One for work, and one for leisure.

Gav

Jul 7, 2007, 06:32 AM

I agree, the iPhone isn't deigned to re-place peoples current music players, but to coincide with them (notice I said music players and not iPod).

Apple still sell 80GB iPods, if they thought that the iPhone was going to replace the iPod, they would have withdrawn the 80GB iPods quicker than you could say Mac 'n' Cheese.

zedsdead

Jul 7, 2007, 06:38 AM

if you go into the song info in itunes, there's a tab for lyrics. syncing to an ipod will transfer the lyrics over, and you can access them by pressing the center button on the ipod, cycling through a few windows (artwork, rating, etc.) until you get to the lyrics screen.

Very Cool...is the easiest way to do this vis Copy/Pasting from the internet or is there some kind of program that will make it easier?

siurpeeman

Jul 7, 2007, 07:08 AM

Very Cool...is the easiest way to do this vis Copy/Pasting from the internet or is there some kind of program that will make it easier?

i use the sing that itune (http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/music/singthatitune.html) widget. it isn't the most elegant solution, since you have to activate the widget if you want to retrieve song lyrics, and there's no way to retrieve song lyrics for all your music at once. at least none that i'm aware of. maybe someone else might have a better suggestion.

zap2

Jul 7, 2007, 07:11 AM

I'd find it annoying because, why should other people care what you(or anyone else) buys...as long as it is your money, and the iPhone isn't stolen(or anything like that) why should anyone worry if you buy the 4GB or 8GB iPhone

Dagless

Jul 7, 2007, 07:23 AM

That's alright, I have an 80gb iPod. I bash all!

iCe Cube

Jul 7, 2007, 07:29 AM

Well my 256 mb mp3 player seems to hold enough music for me, so 4gb is plenty, unless of course you want to hold your entire music collection, but in my opinion you don't really need to listen to all your music at one time. I'm sure one day the iPhone will have storage like 20, 30, 40 GB etc.

diamond.g

Jul 7, 2007, 07:42 AM

Exactly....

As a convergence device...its cool..but for 500 bucks..its a pretty terrible iPod. A choice between 4 and 8 Gigs ?

The iPod part of the phone seems like an after thought...its almost a lite version of what an iPod is...and thats cool...but I thought the point of an iPod was to have your whole music collection in your pocket....and for video....the movies on iTunes are like a gig and half to begin with, so you can't put more then a few on there if your also gonna have music.

I can save 100 bucks ...which will be good cause the thought of paying 500 bucks for a phone makes me mental.

OR I'll actually be able to wait until theres iPhone 2 or an iPhone nano...Once this beta test is over, and get a kick ass 8 gig touch screen phone for like 300 bucks. While regular iPhones stay at 500 bucks and go to like 20 gigs.
Or we can think of the iPhone as the 2nd Gen Nano addition/replacement. I know I don't have to carry around my Nano anymore.

BigPrince

Jul 7, 2007, 08:39 AM

Sounds to me like you're trying to justify your purchase to yourself. ;) :p

But hey, if that makes you feel better, have at it. :D

Not to be rude, but I feel 4 gig bashers are justifying there purchase of spending an extra $100 by choosing to bash the 4 gig.

retnuh730

Jul 7, 2007, 10:32 AM

Not to be rude, but I feel 4 gig bashers are justifying there purchase of spending an extra $100 by choosing to bash the 4 gig.

The debate goes both ways.

rdowns

Jul 7, 2007, 10:40 AM

Wow, this is certainly one of the most useless threads I've read since iDay. Can't people understand that people have different needs and wants? Why don't we leave it at this? 4GB iPhone users have bigger penises. :eek:

Disclosure- I got an 8GB iPhone. :eek:

MacbookSwitcher

Jul 7, 2007, 10:51 AM

I have an 8 GB and I was instantly out of space, since I have 13 GB of music, and probably another couple gigs of podcasts, photos, and ripped DVDs I'd like to get on the device.

I really want a 32 GB iPhone. 32 GB NAND flash is available, but the component cost would be about $200 from Samsumg, so it may be a while before we see it in an iPhone. Apple paid Samsumg $48 for the 8 GB NAND Flash module, so perhaps we'll be getting 16 GB in the future since, by extrapolation, it would only run about $96 or so.

However, I have nothing against people with the 4 GB...their money, their choice.

NAND cost data taken from:

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20070706/135572/

swindmill

Jul 7, 2007, 01:32 PM

My feeling about iPods has always been that I'd love to be able to sync my entire library, so the 60 and 80gb's are great for that. Short of that, I have to put the music on it that I want to listen to, when I want to listen to it. So, I got a 4gb because I sync my Nano and iPhone far more frequently than I need to in order to keep the music selection unique. That said, it would be cool to be able to keep more music and videos on the iPhone, but mainly for the coolness/show factor. Considering I was being entirely irresponsible by charging the iPhone in the first place, I charged $106 less by getting a 4gb. ;)

dukeblue91

Jul 7, 2007, 02:11 PM

I got the 8 gig not really for music or video cause the 4 gig would suffice for that or I have my iPod if I need to carry more.
The reason I choose the 8 gig was that at some point Apple may allow us to store other things on it like the iPod as a portable HD, and than I would want the biggest one available.
Plus I think that it will help the resale value when they come out with a larger and newer one down the road.

I mean look at the Nano, it's the best selling iPod Apple has and comes in 2,4 or 8 gig and the 4 gig being the better selling one.
So for most people to have 2-3 gig for music is obviously plenty.

Benjamindaines

Jul 7, 2007, 06:13 PM

I have a 43 GB music / video library on my computer, but I will only be buying the 4GB iPhone. I simply can't afford the 8GB. Also I will not be loading all my music on (obviously) I only plan on loading movies on it and using my iPod for my music still. I'm not buying the iPhone for it's iPod function, I'm buying it because, in my mind, it's one of the few decent phones out there.

Sobe

Jul 7, 2007, 06:25 PM

Here's a good compromise, how about people only sync the music they paid for?

hah /flame on~

Benjamindaines

Jul 7, 2007, 06:54 PM

Here's a good compromise, how about people only sync the music they paid for?

hah /flame on~

haha best answer so far =]

overcast

Jul 7, 2007, 07:02 PM

Has the snob level of the Apple community reached as low as starting threads over why your 8GB is better than someones 4GB? Give me a break.

michelle21

Jul 7, 2007, 07:07 PM

haha best answer so far =]

I don't really see the difference between the two, really on the iphone your going to store maybe a gig of your music and maybe movie or two, so total 2.5 gig or so. Still plenty of room since you can't put many movies on it.

When I'm out I use it for listening to music, I think of it more as a shuffle than a video ipod. (I have one of those), as an internet tablet it works just great, and when I'm at home and on my wifi and want to watch a movie, its much more convient to stream it from the server.

The server hosts the same video libraries used by my apple tv. That library is about 100 GB and growing. So unless they have a 100GB iphone in the works Its never going to have enough memory.

So there....

DonWilson

Jul 7, 2007, 07:51 PM

Wow, I shouldn't be surprised that there are 4GB bashers. I couldn't be more happy with my 4GB phone. $100 for 4 gb is insane. If I wanted that much space, I'd carry around a thumbdrive and transfer music around when I need to.

Cybergypsy

Jul 7, 2007, 07:54 PM

I have a 4 for myself, my son has a 8, I really dont use it that much and 4 is plenty, also when the new ones come out i will buy another....

bennifer3000

Jul 7, 2007, 08:06 PM

BigPrince

Jul 7, 2007, 08:08 PM

Nope, 4GB bashing is completely justified. Audio quality drops with less space and more songs and same with video.

What are these comments based on?

I have had no AUDIO problems based on the amount of storage I have.

I do have audio problems, but I had that before I put any data on it.

MattyBwrx

Jul 7, 2007, 08:17 PM

michelle21

Jul 7, 2007, 09:41 PM

Nope, 4GB bashing is completely justified. Audio quality drops with less space and more songs and same with video.

If your are going to buy a Porsche, you get the best one out there, you don't buy the 2006 model and drive 50 on the freeway with the top closed.

-B!

No evidence of that whats so ever, people with the larger systems tend to pack more into them, I know I have 1.5 terrabytes on my network, and will likely need more very soon.

The only time I'd like to have more is to watch movies, and for that I have both a video ipod and a fast internet connection I can access over wifi to stream movies to the iphone.

my decision was based on finanaces, I really have no need or desire for a porcshe.

TonicAngel

Jul 13, 2007, 08:12 AM

I wanted an 8gb for a while then I realized I really want a 4gb. I have 60gb of video & music on my ipod right now. Until Apple comes out with a 80gb iphone I will be taking my ipod AND my iphone around with me. I might as well save some money and get the smaller version. :)

bmustaf

Jul 13, 2007, 09:46 AM

In response to the OP, yeah, bashing something/someone b/c they made a different choice is pretty weak (xenophobia anyone?).

I won't *bash* the 4GB choice and I certainly won't say anyone is wrong for making that choice, but I honestly can say I don't understand it -- either economically or practically.

I'm sure people have really good reasons that make sense to them for going 4GB or 8GB...I went 4GB and first and decided to upgrade.

I originally bought the 4GB, thought I could live with it (much along the lines of the rationale espoused in this thread: my music library is 30GB, I'm going to have to triage anyway, why not save the $100?). Well, I triaged and found that 4GB for music, videos, photos just wasnt enough even with the most parsimonious of selection policies. Further, I wondered what would happen if 3rd party apps, file system support, et al were ever released. Wow, then I'm really screwed. I returned my 4GB and ate the $50 restock and scored an 8GB. Much happier!

First, the iPhone is not really a poorman's device (or poorwomans). In the grander scheme of cost of ownership $100 is statistically insignificant. For someone to argue that $100 of fixed cost up front on an item that not only is already $500 and incurs an atleast $60 monthly recurring cost (even more when you add regulatory fees and taxes) is really an uphill argument -- tenuous at best.

Second, consider the economics: $100 for 2X the flash? Apple either seriously upcharges on the 4GB or discounts the 8GB...either way their margins are NOT the same on both devices. My inclination is that the 4GB is upcharged (would make sense from a GP perspective). If you really want to make the "value" argument, you are getting more back for your buck with the 8GB.

Finally, it's usage. I couldn't fit my shuffle mix, recently playeds, 4 episodes of the office, and my last 2 months of photos on a 4GB. That's what I want my device to hold (that's just me, remember, YMMV) -- that cinched my decision to upgrade to the 8.

DJone

Jul 13, 2007, 11:00 AM

Sounds to me like you're trying to justify your purchase to yourself. ;) :p

But hey, if that makes you feel better, have at it. :D

Ditto. Hahahaha...

Exactly what I was thinking...

One.

alanisrox69

Jul 13, 2007, 12:30 PM

The way I look at it is, I saved myself about $115 (with tax) buying the 4gb over the 8gb.

that's $115 I can put towards the next generation iPhone.

and incurs an atleast $60 monthly recurring cost (even more when you add regulatory fees and taxes) is really an uphill argument -- tenuous at best.

I guess if you are on your own plan. I'm on a family plan. Before the iPhone upgrade we were paying $116/month for 5, count 'em, 5 phones, which includes 1 with a $5/month texting plan, and mine with the $10 texting/net plan. So for $10 more a month, I upgraded to the iPhone texting/net plan. New monthly price of $126. so in the end we would take $101 / 5 = $20.20. per line base. Add on my $20 iPhone plan (since it shouldn't be the other peoples responsibilty to split the cost). $40.20/monthly for my iPhone (everyone else pays $20.20, except for the person who has the $5 texting plan, that gets added to their $20.20).

Just wanted to show that it is possible to have a plan cheaper than $60/month.

BTW, We are on an older Cingular Family plan, 450mins, unlimited m2m, nights/weekends. $40 month, including the first line. Each of the other 4 lines are $9.99 each. Roughly $80 for the phones. Add in the taxes. $101/month.

-Derek-

princealfie

Jul 13, 2007, 12:45 PM

I wanted the 4 GB iPhone because it was a good way to get into the iPhone world plus it holds enough music for me in general :)

Sobe

Jul 13, 2007, 12:45 PM

The way I look at it is, I saved myself about $115 (with tax) buying the 4gb over the 8gb.

that's $115 I can put towards the next generation iPhone. [SNIP]

-Derek-

If $115 is going to make or break your purchase of an iPhone then, yeah definitely go for the 4 gig...but I know personally that even 8 gets pretty tight.

To me the squeal point is this:

If your entire collection will fit on an 8 but not on a 4, then I would get the 8.

If your music won't fit on an 8, then a 4 isn't that big a deal since you will have to pick and choose anyway.

Also if you love having lots of video, 4 is probably not a good way to go.

Hope you enjoy it!

hotsauce

Jul 13, 2007, 12:51 PM

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I have an 8 gig. I don't appreciate all this exclusiveness with you 4 gig owners. You think you're better than us just because you're 100 bucks richer?

MondayNgt

Jul 13, 2007, 12:58 PM

And why would you need to listen to music so often. Give your ears and head a break. Listen to nothing. Listen to the breeze or have a conversation with somebody for crying out loud. How many movies must you watch? Stop playing with your toys and enjoy the world around you.

You obviously don't work in the city or use public transportation. On the trip to/from, between listening to rude people, crying babies or creeps bugging you for money, I'll take the iPod or whatever form of entertainment I have on me (book, videogame, magazine, etc). :)

motorazr

Jul 13, 2007, 01:03 PM

People! The only difference is the ≈4GB more of storage! THEY ALL DO THE SAME THINGS! BY BUYING ONE YOU GOT YOUR STATUS SYMBOL! SOME PEOPLE EITHER DIDN'T NEED THE ADDED STORAGE OR COULDN'T AFFORD IT!!! Now please, stop fighting over who is better! Anyone who owns an iPhone is and equal, and those who don't, well...that's not my fight.
FOR THE RECORD: I have and 8GB, but think a 4 is just as cool!

voicegy

Jul 14, 2007, 08:50 PM

My decision on going 4 gig was based on the following:

My current Nano is 2 gigs, and I never filled it up. I don't have a need to carry a quadzillon songs with me, nor Season 1 and 2 of Desperate Housewives. With 4 gig, I doubled the space I had before.

I shaved 100 bucks off.

Certainly don't think I'm better, smarter, than any other posters - don't even know why that's a part of the conversation.

DJ Hurricane

Jul 14, 2007, 10:46 PM

I work in the studio listining to music all day and DJ several nights a week>>> I personally cant stand to walk around with anything blocking my sence of hearing! (UnSafe!) A lady got hit by a train jogging with her Ipod last week> I dont use it as an Ipod!!!

I bought the 4gig because to me, I dont need to fill my Iphone up with any more than the most current mixtape or two and a few of my Videos (with my music) to show to potential clients>>> Mby a movie> But I allways have a powerbook, or a Macbook w/ me. so for me a Iphone "Sync" can easly swap data>>>

One other thing, As a convert from the 02 Exec (PPC), I can tell you, I would never fill my Phone to the point of making it unstable!

Also there are servers that allow 5gigs or more online storage for Iphone!!!

Its the 4gig for me and its relativly empty :cool:

balsa

Jul 15, 2007, 10:58 PM

4gig here too. I got it on the first day. I had already decided I'd go with whichever I could get. I also had figured if I got the 4 because it's what was left, I could always trade up to an 8 if I just felt I "had" to. I'm a big gadget person too with several other pda phone devices, all loaded with programs, pictures, music etc and I've never yet run out of space, including a 4 gig iPod nowhere near full. So as the 2 week return period closed in, in my case, it was an easy choice to stay with the 4gig.

kernyboy

Jul 16, 2007, 12:36 AM

So, I had a 4gb and space was an issue...so I took it back to the apple store and got and 8gb. And no, i didnt pay a restocking fee. My 4gig had battery issues, so they gave me a new phone no problem. I just paid the difference.

iBookG4user

Jul 16, 2007, 12:40 AM

I was prepared to get whatever iPhone the AT&T store had in stock, and they had an 8GB iPhone in stock so I got that one. I have already run out of space on it, but I knew that would happen. A 4GB iPhone would've barely been able to hold all my music. Although I don't bash the 4GB iPhone, if people can get by with 4GB of space, then they shouldn't have to pay the $100 difference to get more space that they don't need.

bennifer3000

Jul 16, 2007, 10:36 AM

You guys are too much, I made a joke and you get upset and say that I'm compensating for something. You guys are too cute. :)

Sobe

Jul 16, 2007, 10:53 AM

You guys are too much, I made a joke and you get upset and say that I'm compensating for something. You guys are too cute. :)

I bet Bennifer really has a 4 gig phone :D:D

pyrex

Aug 23, 2007, 12:36 AM

I got my 4gb refurb for $399 as it was closer to my phone budget, and I already had an 8 gig nano, so I don't plan on using this phone so much as a music device. I would rather have it on standby and save battery, and use the incredible 24hr battery the nano has.
I have many gb of music, but like to keep it fresh with new releases, so I am changing out my music all the time with new albums anyhow.
I just consider myself to have a 12gb nano now!

mosx

Aug 23, 2007, 03:09 AM

I'm waiting for my 4GB iPhone to show up.

I could have gotten the 8GB iPhone.

Why didn't I?

I already have an 80GB iPod. It wouldn't matter if I had a 4GB or 8GB iPhone, I would have to rearrange my music on the device almost daily. So it's best for me to just stick a couple hundred songs on it that I really enjoy and use my 80GB iPod for everything else. I'll especially be using my 80GB iPod for those times I want to use high quality headphones. I also rip my music at 256kbps VBR AAC, so even an 8GB device doesn't have enough storage space.

But even if I didn't have an 80GB iPod, I would have still went for the 4GB unit. $100 is still $100. That could mean $100 worth of content from the iTunes store, or a case and a car charger. Theres a lot you can do with $100. You can also use iTunes smart playlisting capabilities to always autofill your iPhone and hear different music every day. 4GB is enough for the average music fan, while 8GB isn't even close to being enough for a true music lover.

Benjamindaines

Aug 23, 2007, 08:29 AM

I ended up getting the 8GB model, eventhough in a previous post I said I wasnt going to. Why? Because the iPod interface is so nice on it, it really makes me never want to go back to my 60GB video iPod. So what Ive done is set up a smart playlist in iTunes to pool up 6GBs of my most played music. Now I have 6GB of music, all my phone stuff (contacts and such), and about 800 megs free for photos and such.

Needless to say I am very happy with it.

Mathias

Aug 23, 2007, 08:35 AM

When the iPhone comes to Denmark, I will buy a 8 GB because you get get more Gigs for your money...

You pay $ 124,75 per GB for a 4 GB iPhone.
You pay $ 74,875 per GB for a 8 GB iPhone.

Furthermore, I don't have a iPod, so it will serve me as my only music/video player.

But I can easily understand you 4GB owners..
It is ridiculous to buy a 8GB iPhone if you only need 4GB or less.

Benjamindaines

Aug 23, 2007, 08:44 AM