Are you angry with Sony?

[gkarris]

Well, what do you think?

[BoyBach]

Would you care to elaborate?

[gkarris]

Would you care to elaborate?

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Well?

[Coded-Dude]

any particular reason why, or are you just trying to gauge the anti-sony sentiment within the forums?

[gloss]

If you can't think of a reason to be angry you either haven't read the news in the past two days or you're in denial.

[Coded-Dude]

Um, I paid full price for my 60GB PS3, received no free anything(games, controllers, etc.), and am satisfied with my purchase........

They already stated the price cut was for NA only, but are working on delivering the same(or similar) value to Europe.
If that is what you guys are "angry" about. :rolleyes:

You could try your luck with a defective console at a cheaper price.

[gkarris]

any particular reason why, or are you just trying to gauge the anti-sony sentiment within the forums?

Just vote, "No..."

I bought the Betamax back in the day, and I was really happy with that purchase, even though Sony lost the format war. Beta was the higher quality system.

I would imagine with PS3 owners that they are enjoying Blu-ray movies and a few great games.

Those picking up the PS3 at $499 now are also getting 5 free BD movies and Circuit City is also giving away an extra controller. That's a great deal!

[Coded-Dude]

but but.....Sony dropped the price in Japan at launch, shouldn't we ALL be angry(except the JPN gamers) with Sony?

:confused:

I can leave my PS3 on for MONTHS(literally) and it won't even break a sweat(no worries of overheating or dying)
I've got a next gen(built-in) optical drive, and the CELL cpu, and many other features. Anyone who doesn't understand the REAL value within the hardware probably has a right to be mad.

btw - the options in the poll are rather flamboyant as well

[wako]

Im not pissed off at them for the PS3. Im using my friends right now :)


Im not too sure if you guys read the latest from the rumor mill, first appearing from the Reuters, but according to someone, the $100 price cut is just the beginning. They are due to release another price cut by years end. :eek:

When some good games get released, in about 6-8 months, Ill go pick up one of my own :)


EDIT: I just read the poll options. I actually had high hopes on the MiniDisc. It was a good player, until I found out the sound quality was pretty crappy compared to some of the new encoding that was coming out.

[asxtb]

but but.....Sony dropped the price in Japan at launch, shouldn't we ALL be angry(except the JPN gamers) with Sony?

*Looks at location* :D:D:D

And where's the choice for 'No reason to be angry with Sony but did not camp out to get one'?

[Coded-Dude]

So......Where are the "Are you MAD at Nintendo/Microsoft" threads.
You don't see to many negative threads about the other two - it seems overly biased against Sony in these forums, and somebody has to be a voice for the "opposition."

[wako]

So......Where are the "Are you MAD at Nintendo/Microsoft" threads.

nobody created one... obviously... just because Sony is under attack for their poor judgement, doesnt mean people on these boards love Nintendo more than Sony or Microsoft's Xbox.


And actually you are on the wrong boards to be asking where are the 'I hate Microsoft' threads. If you havent noticed on the rest of the boards, people make those kinds of threads almost on a daily basis... lol....

[gkarris]

Im not pissed off at them for the PS3. Im using my friends right now :)


Im not too sure if you guys read the latest from the rumor mill, first appearing from the Reuters, but according to someone, the $100 price cut is just the beginning. They are due to release another price cut by years end. :eek:

When some good games get released, in about 6-8 months, Ill go pick up one of my own :)

EDIT: I just read the poll options. I actually had high hopes on the MiniDisc. It was a good player, until I found out the sound quality was pretty crappy compared to some of the new encoding that was coming out.

That's what I'm hearing too - the basic 80Gig (no game) will be $499 at Christmas...

[Coded-Dude]

Ninty is making poor judgment with their online service, and inability to keep up with demand & Microsoft can't catch a break with their "defective" hardware.

They all make poor decisions, thats what I'm pointing out. (the obvious negative bias against sony here)

You aren't the first to question my "homepage" either, but did you visit the site.
E-mpire FTW! www.e-mpire.com

They have all three subsections: Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony, and I am a fanboy because I purchase Sony products and visit forums related to those products? :rolleyes:
I am indeed a fan, but I am objective about every company based on my own personal experiences/beliefs as well as the facts.
You don't see me posting overly negative BS (I hate them, its garbage, it all sucks, etc.) No reason to bash on any of them.

btw - I post in all sections of E-mpire. (not just psinext/psinsider)

[gkarris]

Hey, cool down, it's about being made at Sony (or not), not at eachother...

[Coded-Dude]

Just seems like anytime anybody defends Sony here is called a fanboy....it's rather absurd.
I was first told I am either ignorant of the news or in denial, which means EVERYBODY should be "mad," another ridiculous statement - then I was called a fanboy.
I'm not mad at anybody or anything right now, just making observations about the slanted statements.
Can we not be objective and critical without bashing someone/something....just seems childish and unproductive?

[gloss]

Sony's arrogance and/or stupidity is just stunning to me. For every bit of good news they produce, they find some new way to shoot themselves in the foot.

Sony: "We're reducing the price of the console by $100!"
People: "Yay! We give you goodwill!"
Sony: "Now that we've noted a massive sales spike and may actually be gaining market share, we are ceasing production of the reduced-price consoles and strong-arming you back into spending $600. As a comfort, we'll give you 20GB of extra HD space and crippled backwards compatibility."
People: "Die in a fire!"

[Coded-Dude]

Sony of America's Dave Karraker says that the quotes obtained in an interview with Sony Europe's David Reeves in regards to a 60 gigabyte Playstation 3 phase out, inaccurate.

Karraker told Joystiq that "As announced this week, SCEA's product offering in North America consists of a 80GB PS3 available in August at $599 and a 60GB PS3 available now for $499. We have will have ample supplies of both models to meet the needs of our consumers for the foreseeable future."

Sony Canada spokesman Kyle Moffatt backed Karraker's claim.

"As announced this week, SCEA's product offering in North America consists of a 80GB PS3 available in August at $659 CDN and a 60GB PS3 available now for $549 CDN," says Moffatt. "We have will have ample supplies of both models to meet the needs of our consumers for the foreseeable future."


Arrogance and Stupidity, or overly-eager unfounded bashing?
Also, how does this affect Europe/Uk again.....?
This was an announcement exclusive to Americas.

Your "bundle" is as follows: Customers buying the £425 games console would be given two games and an extra controller, providing consumers with a saving of about £115.

[wako]

You don't see me posting overly negative BS (I hate them, its garbage, it all sucks, etc.) No reason to bash on any of them.

just because you are called a fanboy doesnt mean I am saying you are 12 or younger than me. It is simply a term for saying someone is a fan of something.


Overly negative BS? Im sorry I actually thought the PSP was my worst purchase and the games to be quite lacking, but that is honestly how I feel. Im sorry I stated evident facts of the KillZone 2 demo, and found that image quality was sub par compared to the CG shown a few years back. Other people have opinions that differ from yours.


And if you are calling me a fanboy, who am I a fan of? I have every console and simply because I criticize the things I own in threads that are most recent, doesnt make me an anti-whatever. It just means I accept the truth and flaws of the products that I have purchased. Believe me I have criticism for each and every product I own. ;)

[Coded-Dude]

I could care less about being called a fanboy, but like I said - I don't really take offense.

Killzone2 was one of the most impressive demos at E3, and people here called it "horrible."
Some of the best lighting, blood, and gun physics/animations I have seen, ever.
I don't think they would have showed if if they, themselves, didn't believe that they had meet(or even exceeded) some of their goals.
But like you said(and a phrase I repeat here weekly), Opinions vary!

[wako]

oops... that was actually a typo :D


When I was typing up that message I just knew your name was Coded something, and figured it was boy because all I remember was the last part was something that means he has a penis... dude, boy, meh close enough... sort of :p

[Shotgun OS]

Yeah....little bit mad here.

[Coded-Dude]

again....why?

Sony of America's Dave Karraker says that the quotes obtained in an interview with Sony Europe's David Reeves in regards to a 60 gigabyte Playstation 3 phase out, inaccurate.

Karraker told Joystiq that "As announced this week, SCEA's product offering in North America consists of a 80GB PS3 available in August at $599 and a 60GB PS3 available now for $499. We have will have ample supplies of both models to meet the needs of our consumers for the foreseeable future."

Sony Canada spokesman Kyle Moffatt backed Karraker's claim.

"As announced this week, SCEA's product offering in North America consists of a 80GB PS3 available in August at $659 CDN and a 60GB PS3 available now for $549 CDN," says Moffatt. "We have will have ample supplies of both models to meet the needs of our consumers for the foreseeable future."

[XNine]

Ya see, Coded-Dude, this is why I left for nearly a year. Because there are so many people on here calling people "fanboys" anytime they stick up for MS or Sony. But "Nintendo is just like Apple!" Ya know, with their superior graphics, online gaming, and bricked consoles! :rolleyes:

I can guarantee I can point out more flaws with both the 360 and the Wii than the PS3, but then I would be flamed again because I'm a "Sony Fanboy Hiss! Hiss!" (even though I don't even own a PS3)

[it5five]

I can leave my PS3 on for MONTHS(literally) and it won't even break a sweat(no worries of overheating or dying)


But you'll die when you get your electric bill.

[MacRumorUser]

Initially I thought the PS3 was over priced, but as I watch a lot of blu-ray movies on it now, I think it wasn't too badly priced overall, considering BluRay players are still over €1200 to buy on their own here.

So no I'm not dissapointed with Sony in regards to price.

I do have other issues though that peev me off.


1. Why no OPTICAL output and HDMI output at the same time ? Having to change sound output source is an utter pain in the ass

2. Where's customisable dashboard schemes ?

3. PSN network is ok in general, BUT.... why isn't their more bloody demos. Especially when a multiformat game gets a 360 demo release, but not for PS3, even though the developers have one - Sony's vetting procedure must be laborious beaurocaracy for them to not appear.

4. What happended to the Rumble pads. I thought they were coming back and we'd hear somthing at E3 ? but no.....


But overall = happy with the hardware


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360.

I'm lucky my two 360's havent suffered the dreaded ROD just yet, and only suffer the occasional freeze once in a blue moon.

Overall = Very happy with it.

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Wii.

Crappy region locked PAL piece of poop irritates the hell out of me, especailly when I see USA games getting months ahead of euro version.

For me personally - an utter diretribe of release games, and I am utterly sick to the back teeth of cube and ps2 ports.

Oh and a new mini game release = :( at this stage.

With only 4 games for the rest of the year in PAL territories I'm looking forward to (Mario Galaxy, Metroid Corruption, Battalian Wars, Super Paper Mario) the Wii for me has been the biggest dissapointment.

Overall = meh! wish I had waited a year to buy

[BoyBach]

Well?


I still don't understand? Why would I be angry at Sony? Could you not just elaborate on your opening post instead of posting a dictionary definition of angry, please?

If you can't think of a reason to be angry you either haven't read the news in the past two days or you're in denial.

I've been following the news of the past two days and I can find neither a reason to be angry nor to be denial at Sony? Could you maybe elaborate on the meaning/topic of this tread?

I not trying to be deliberately vague or pissy, it's that I honestly don't understand.

:confused:

[Dagless]

Not angry as such, just uninterested. They've shown me no games to get me excited, the games I did play (GTHD, Motorstorm, Resistance) were unoriginal, bland games which only got me and a friend to get super p***ed with the lack of decent controller (this guy has had every Sony system prior too).

Course the price. £430, that's $875 or ¥106,783. Games on average costing £5-10 more than 360 games in the high street.

The arrogance of the guys in charge, sorry execs, I won't be getting a second job just for your system. Dual HDMI, 120fps, 4D BS.

Sorry. Even I got a 360, there is literally nothing worthwhile owning a PS3 for.

[gloss]

again....why?

Look around. Kaz Hirai has confirmed that they've ceased production. The only reason they have 'ample supply' of the 60gb models in the first place is because they've been unable to meet their own sales expectations since launch.

This is just another stupid PR move on Sony's part. Say what you will against Nintendo and Microsoft, at least it's evident that they have some sort of plan for the long term.

Sorry. Even I got a 360, there is literally nothing worthwhile owning a PS3 for.

Blu-ray may be a reason for some. It was for me.

[gkarris]

I still don't understand? Why would I be angry at Sony?:confused:

I had a Betamax. Even though it was of obvious better quality, I kept hearing from (I guess now you call them "fanboys") VHS "users" that their system was better because of titles and capacity. Then, Sony finally dropped it. It was the better, more pricey system, but not popular.

I guess the PS3 is undergoing the same misconceptions. Yes, pricey, but future proof.

Then, Sony pulls the following.

1. Was ready to buy the 20 Gig version for $499. I don't need wireless and like the all-black model. Sony makes hardly any, says, "They're not selliing well" and discontinues them. I never even saw one after launch...

2. Now there's this thing with the 60Gig for $499. No, it's not $499, yes, it is, now it's only until they run out, oh, but yes there's enough, oh and the 80Gig will be the only one at $599. (So, how many people will be mad again when the 80Gig is $499 at Christmas, surpassed by a 120 Gig and rumble controllers to compete with the XB360 Elite?)

3. Why does Sony have so many mixed comments going around? Why not just give in to the Nintendo model with only 1 available at a low price? Or why not the Microsoft model of 2 or 3 with a wide range of prices and ample supply?

So, I just wanted to hear people's thoughts on the matter. Why does Sony have to act this way? They're not the only videogame console company on the planet!

It looks like for me I'll just sit this PS3 thing out until I can get one for $399 (yes, probably another 4 year wait...)

[michaelltd]

I'm a bit disappointed that they intend to discontinue the 60GB model.

I think it would be better for them to hold onto the 60GB and let it slowly reduce in price so that in a few years, it'll be in more people's price range.

I suppose now I'll be waiting even longer before getting one. Oh well, looks like my gaming will be on Microsoft's and Nintendo's consoles for quite a while. I'll still get 92.31% of the games I want at this time anyhow.

[gkarris]

Thanks everyone for taking part so far! I know there's been some "heat". I wish Sony can view this and take it to heart. Either people are upset about the back and forth with pricing, or are too busy with the other systems to even care...

(looks forward tonight to some much needed "Gears of War" time...)

[Dagless]

I'm angry at Sony for other reasons. Laser issues on PS1 and 2, various hi-fi units costing more than competition whilst not sounding as good (that actually taught me a good lesson in buying from major brands like that), the tweeter [sp?] in a set of these bizarre Sony "cube" speakers went very soon - comparatively speaking my Wharfedales which were cheaper are still going :cool: and my Rega's just dont recognise failure. Even my Sony minidisc has had a whole plethora of mini issues, still working though.
Then it was my duty to fix all my friends Sony minidisc players when they gave up the ghost too.

Sony has been the only big electronics brand to constantly let me down. It wouldn't be bad if they were priced alongside their hardware equals like Goodmans.

High price - low quality.
My Sony Fontopia earphones and MDR-XD200 headphones work fine still.


The most reliable brands I've dealt with are Apple, Samsung and Nintendo.

[BoyBach]

I had a Betamax...


Gotcha!

This is why when a customer enquires about high-def DVD players at work I give them the honest answer of don't bother with either until there's a 'winner' - I don't think the bosses would be very happy with me, however.

As for Sony's attitude towards using proprietary technologies, it is curious. I like to think that it's maybe an 'arrogance hangover' from the 80's and early 90's when they were the 'kings' of consumer electronics. MP3? No thanks, we'll use AMTRAC. SD/MMC storage? No thanks, we'll use Memory Sticks. DVD's? No thanks, we'll use UMD's. And so on.

I believe, and I've posted this many times on these boards, that the Sony as we know it to be right now, will not, and cannot, exist when the next iteration of PlayStation is released.

[zap2]

Anyone angry with Sony, about the price dropped shouldn't have bought it

[wako]

I'm lucky my two 360's havent suffered the dreaded ROD just yet, and only suffer the occasional freeze once in a blue moon.





Lucky... Im on my second one... and of the 5 people I play with, ALL OF THEM have had the ring of death. I have practically figured out when the thing will fail. About every 8-12 months

[risc]

I got my PS3 for free so I'm not going to complain _BUT_ even if I had have paid full price you wouldn't see me complaining now, I love the PS3 and think it is well worth the money (Things like region free gaming, replaceable hdd, built-in wifi, Linux support, and Blu-ray make it well worth the money imho, DLNA streaming support is great to - not that I need it). I chucked a 160 GB drive in mine, so when Sony bring out a 200 GB model in another colour I may consider the need to update.

[2nyRiggz]

Why is this the first time I'm seeing this thread:confused:

PS3
I'm not mad at all...I got my console and ENJOYING it...all I need now is a heavenly lady with a sword creaming badly dressed fellas:)..oh and maybe some warhawk madness.

X360
Freaking thing keeps dying....I'm scared to play the thing for more than an hour but all I think about is bioshock and I'm happy again.

Wii
melting the graphics card...games are so so, VC or the other channels don't interest me but then again MP: C, No More Heros and Mario Galaxy keep my spirit alive about the system.



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