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MacRumors
Jul 23, 2003, 09:07 AM
Readers report that according to SurfBits (http://www.surf-bits.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=106), GlobalScape (http://www.globalscape.com/) is currently beta testing CuteFTP (http://www.cuteftp.com/cuteftp/) for the Mac.

CuteFTP appears to be a popular FTP client (http://download.com.com/3000-2160-10000625.html?legacy=cnet) for the PC.



seven5
Jul 23, 2003, 09:15 AM
cuteFTP is an AWESOME ftp client.

When i moved to the mac platform 1.5 years ago, one thing that i really missed, was a good ftp client. And although since then Transmit has moved in as my favorite, it still doesn't match what is on the windows side.

I'm taking this 2 ways. One, cuteFTP sees a market on the mac side, because all the other ftp clients are really lacking in features (Queue, logging, fxp, general UI). And two, this is really great for Apple. This is a very well established company trying their hand on the mac side. They obviously like Os X and see that it is a viable platform to make some revenue off of.

I'm am extremely excited, and hope that the project turns out great!

chicagdan
Jul 23, 2003, 09:16 AM
By the way, I like Transmit a lot better than Cute FTP or any other FTP client for Windows.

tcmcam
Jul 23, 2003, 09:19 AM
The FTP world used to be pretty weak on Mac OS X. But it has improved tremendously in the past year.

Transmit is very good. RBrowser works pretty well.

I'm now using Captain FTP. It is the most stable of the 3. So, Cute FTP is pretty good on Windows, but Captain FTP is already a great option on OS X.

Mudbug
Jul 23, 2003, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by seven5
this is really great for Apple. This is a very well established company trying their hand on the mac side. They obviously like Os X and see that it is a viable platform to make some revenue off of.

This comment is on the right track...
Maybe since this is a relatively accepted PC software application company that sees an opening for a stable port of thier software to X, then others will see how easy it was, and do the same with their stuff.

That's not to say more = better, because quantity does not equal quality. I just want the good software to port. Leave the crap apps for the PCs. I don't want them anyway.

spoon
Jul 23, 2003, 09:23 AM
It's like "yeah! they're porting viruses!". We don't need everything the Windowsworld has.

Transmit works perfectly for whatever you need to do FTP-wise, and it's a LOT more elegant and easy to use than CuteFTP.

It's like when they ported ACDSee to Mac. We don't need bad quality ports, when we can get much better native software (which doesn't exist for Windows).

And for the "misposter" (hello! mac sucks for games): you should compare Quake or Unreal on a high-end Mac and equivalent PC.

hello!! mac rocks for games

chicagdan
Jul 23, 2003, 09:31 AM
Transmit works perfectly for whatever you need to do FTP-wise, and it's a LOT more elegant and easy to use than CuteFTP.



I agree, but then again, I don't use 90% of the features in CuteFTP ... perhaps Transmit lacks features that some heavy FTP users need. For what I do, Transmit is great and I see no need to use another client.

I think what we're starting to see in the OS X software world is that pro software is moving very quickly to Mac. I bet there's some good market research out there that proves Mac users tend to buy more and more expensive software ... so if you have a product like CuteFTP that lives off of people who spend $20 for the pro version, it makes sense to port to a platform where users are more likely to buy the pro version.

3xtrmn8r
Jul 23, 2003, 09:31 AM
Originally posted by spoon
Transmit works perfectly for whatever you need to do FTP-wise, and it's a LOT more elegant and easy to use than CuteFTP.

It's like when they ported ACDSee to Mac. We don't need bad quality ports, when we can get much better native software (which doesn't exist for Windows).


Agreed on the whole Transmit thing. I love it. But as for ACDSee, I haven't found a suitable replacement yet. Does anyone have any suggestions? (not iPhoto or Preview, please)

seven5
Jul 23, 2003, 09:31 AM
CuteFTP does a much better job managing long downloads and upload while using a queue. Transmit has a queue, but if you are downloading folders, it lists just that, folders. I need to see the individual files.

cuteFTP also will hold those files in the queue between sessions. If i close transmit, it loses what was in there.

I download a lot of stuff using ftp, and cuteFTP does suchhhhh a better job managing that stuff. Sure if you are just uploading your little html files to your webhost, transmit is fine. Besides, use SCP for that. I use transmit all the time for my ftp client, and i like it. But there is much to be desired.

9hundred
Jul 23, 2003, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by spoon
(hello! mac sucks for games): you should compare Quake or Unreal on a high-end Mac and equivalent PC.

hello!! mac really sucks for games

yes in response to this ftp topic, yes it is about time that cute ftp was made for the mac and this is how my post relates to games coming second for mac, always delayed and outdated versions for the macintosh platform.

mustang_dvs
Jul 23, 2003, 09:45 AM
RBrowser. one of the best multi-protocol FTP clients I've ever seen. It already beats CuteFTP in feature set and has a Mac OS feel. Extremely powerful, intuitive and only $29. http://www.rbrowser.com/

Finder. [cmd]+[K], then just type in the ftp address. Simple, and free. http://www.apple.com/macosx/

SlowX
Jul 23, 2003, 09:46 AM
To be honest, I've using Fetch 4 for quite a while, ever since, like, it was the only game in town.

I'm not a big fan of Fetch although it did get the job done, but I am curious about some of these others you've mentioned here, like Transmit. I will certainly check them out!

:)

--t

mustang_dvs
Jul 23, 2003, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by SlowX
To be honest, I've using Fetch 4 for quite a while, ever since, like, it was the only game in town.

I'm not a big fan of Fetch although it did get the job done...

I used to use Fetch, back in version 3.0.3, but when they decided to take one of the best pieces of MacOS freeware and leverage their monopoly on mac FTP to turn it into shareware for OS X, I elected to learn to use FTP in the command line.

backspinner
Jul 23, 2003, 09:55 AM
If everybody starts naming their favorite ftp client, I can not stay behind although it's a little bit off topic...

osXigen from http://www.osxigen.com.

it has all: ftp, sftp, queues, bbedit integration, multithreaded, etcetera

gopher
Jul 23, 2003, 09:56 AM
Some webhosts require sftp. I found Fugu to be very good at that:

http://rsug.itd.umich.edu/software/fugu/

seven5
Jul 23, 2003, 09:56 AM
[i]

Finder. [cmd]+[K], then just type in the ftp address. Simple, and free. http://www.apple.com/macosx/ [/B]

sounds like someone hasn't even used Cmd-K

This method is read only, and works about 50% of the time, if you're lucky enough to not have your finder choke on it.

drbyers
Jul 23, 2003, 10:17 AM
none of them hold a candle to Panic's Transmit FTP.

Codemonkey
Jul 23, 2003, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by seven5
sounds like someone hasn't even used Cmd-K

This method is read only, and works about 50% of the time, if you're lucky enough to not have your finder choke on it.

Amen - the built-in Finder FTP in OS X looks like an attempt by a junior programmer... it _sometimes_ works, but in most cases it crashes Finder so hard for me I need to do a hard reboot...

e2chris
Jul 23, 2003, 10:19 AM
1 word for all of you... NCFTP. get it. learn it. use it. =P

Codemonkey
Jul 23, 2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by e2chris
1 word for all of you... NCFTP. get it. learn it. use it. =P

There haven't been any recent builds of ncFTP for the reason that the new FTP they include with OS 10.2.x is nearly as feature rich now that they have synched it with the BSD tree.

See here:

http://lists.apple.com/archives/darwin-development/2002/Apr/09/retiringthencftpcommands.001.txt

shadowself
Jul 23, 2003, 10:25 AM
I know Interarchy back when it was called Anarchie was considered one of the best. It has evolved a bit differently lately and is not purely an FTP client. Also, I believe, for a while people hated its upgrade scheme and pricing.

I'm curious as to how people think it stacks up against the rest of the FTP clients on OS X.

whfsdude
Jul 23, 2003, 10:26 AM
Transmit & command line (which I hardly use).

I'm glad to see more Mac/PC software that will sure make it easier for some switchers.

IMO I don't need it but it can't hurt.

arn
Jul 23, 2003, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by shadowself
I know Interarchy back when it was called Anarchie was considered one of the best. It has evolved a bit differently lately and is not purely an FTP client. Also, I believe, for a while people hated its upgrade scheme and pricing.

I'm curious as to how people think it stacks up against the rest of the FTP clients on OS X.

I still use Interarchy. It was one of the first OS X native FTP clients... so I registered it shortly after I made the move to OS X.

arn

Likvid
Jul 23, 2003, 10:31 AM
CuteFTP is spyware since several years back.

I would have prefered FlashFXP to MacOSX.

123
Jul 23, 2003, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by spoon

Transmit works perfectly for whatever you need to do FTP-wise

Yes, like ftps. That's one feature I need, however, as far as I know there's no Mac FTP program besides this horrrible Java client and my own perl scripts, that supports TLS.

Stop posting BS. So you like Transmit? Good for you, but there are people who need more.

Edit: I hope they port the pro version.

jamilecrire
Jul 23, 2003, 10:42 AM
WS_FTP is number one on the PC not CuteFTP.

I use Fugu instead. It is excellent and puts the S in SFTP.

Fetch is good but not free. So for ftp I use terminal > ftp.

Edit:
Here is the fugu link:
http://rsug.itd.umich.edu/software/fugu/

wondermite
Jul 23, 2003, 10:45 AM
It's shareware, and it's--okay. But WSFTP is by (millions) far the most used shareware/freeware FTP client.

And nobody uses most of the features of CuteFTP--they seem to be there for show.

123
Jul 23, 2003, 10:55 AM
Originally posted by jamilecrire

I use Fugu instead. It is excellent and puts the S in SFTP.
Well, I wouldn't call it excellent, but it's free and I too use it for sftp tranfers.


Fetch is good but not free.
There's a free edu licence.

DamnDJ
Jul 23, 2003, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by 3xtrmn8r
Agreed on the whole Transmit thing. I love it. But as for ACDSee, I haven't found a suitable replacement yet. Does anyone have any suggestions? (not iPhoto or Preview, please)

Check out "ViewIt" available from Versiontracker.com and Macupdate.com

Being a big fan of ACDSee on the Windows side, I've found ViewIt to be my savior when it comes to porn viewing on my Mac. :)

As for CuteFTP, I can only see this as a good thing. If you don't like it, fine, but I can't see any bad thing about a Windows developer deciding they want to code for the Mac. Who knows who's to follow?

*edited to include topic relevant information

gopher
Jul 23, 2003, 11:18 AM
There is also Macsftp which I know one person use though as I said before I use Fugu. And there is Netfinder which I haven't yet seen mentioned here.

Mr. G4
Jul 23, 2003, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by 3xtrmn8r
Agreed on the whole Transmit thing. I love it. But as for ACDSee, I haven't found a suitable replacement yet. Does anyone have any suggestions? (not iPhoto or Preview, please)

ACDSee for MacOSX is really slooooow....
Graphic Converter is a perfect candidat for me.

I have to agree WS-FTP is the most used in Windows.

Fat Tony
Jul 23, 2003, 12:01 PM
Nevermind...

wowoah
Jul 23, 2003, 12:14 PM
As for CuteFTP, I can only see this as a good thing. If you don't like it, fine, but I can't see any bad thing about a Windows developer deciding they want to code for the Mac. Who knows who's to follow?

I second this completely. What's with all the self-righteousness and snobby holier-than-thou-art attitudes? How can there possibly be anything bad whatsoever with a Windows developer porting a previously Windows-only program to the Mac? I was a hardcore Mac fan for most of my childhood, but I switched to the PC back in the mid-90s because of the Mac's dearth of software. Now that Apple's on a roll, I'm definitely planning on switching back once the new PBs are released, but the only thing I'll miss about that wretched PC is going into a CompUSA and realizing that almost anything I want to buy will run on my computer. No matter how beautifully crafted and superior the MacOS may be, Windows still holds the edge in the sheer amount of software available, and that's a really big edge to hold.

Anyway, to cut a long rant short, we should be embracing CuteFTP's port to the Mac, not talking smack.

Snowy_River
Jul 23, 2003, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by SlowX
To be honest, I've using Fetch 4 for quite a while, ever since, like, it was the only game in town.

I'm not a big fan of Fetch although it did get the job done, but I am curious about some of these others you've mentioned here, like Transmit. I will certainly check them out!

:)

--t

I, too, have used Fetch forever. I have a free license of v4, and I've found it to be quite satisfactory. I am, however, intrigued by some of the features that I've heard about on these other FTP clients. The one thing that I've always had some difficulty with is paying for an FTP client when, one way or another, I have access to FTP for free.

Snowy_River
Jul 23, 2003, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Codemonkey
Amen - the built-in Finder FTP in OS X looks like an attempt by a junior programmer... it _sometimes_ works, but in most cases it crashes Finder so hard for me I need to do a hard reboot...

I've noticed that it's not that reliable, too. I really hope that they expand this functionality, and have a fully fledged FTP client built in to the Finder. Of course, there will still be market for other clients that offer more features than the Finder would, necessarily, offer.

mangoduck
Jul 23, 2003, 12:24 PM
say it with me, do we really need another ftp client? what are some features in cuteftp (that you commonly use) that other clients on the mac are lacking?

that aside, it's good that people are porting to the mac. perhaps others will see the light and follow suit.

lem0nayde
Jul 23, 2003, 12:26 PM
Oooh goody - lots of new FTP programs I didn't know were out there. Currently using Transmit, which is ok - but just like the Mac OSX Finder - its a little too gui to get the job done efficiently.

On the other hand - for those of you looking for a replacement for the craploa ACDSee - look no further than iView Multimedia. The program is incredible, cleanly designed and excellent for archiving and keeping track of loads of images. I have over 5,000 digital photos organized with catalogs with this program. It is the best out there.

http://www.iview-multimedia.com/

It is everything iPhoto is not. And it allows you to catalog fonts, movies and god knows what else - and uses an excellent templating format that allows you to customize exactly the kind of html slideshow you want exported at the touch of a button. You can code it to the pixel - and use iViews special keywords to denote where the content should be placed.

Get it now.


Joe Rivera
NiftyLou.com
Weird Stuff for weird people.

outZider
Jul 23, 2003, 12:33 PM
I have Transmit.

I use Transmit for SFTP.

I'm wondering how you guys missed that. It's a neat little interface element called a 'dropdown', in which you select 'SFTP'.

- oZ

inkswamp
Jul 23, 2003, 12:35 PM
What's curious is that nobody I know on the Mac platform seems to be aware of Vicomsoft's FTP client which is light-years ahead of anything else on the Mac platform (yes, including Transmit which has admittedly improved enormously over the last year and is almost as good as Vicomsoft's client at this point.)

I used to work on an NT box where one of my duties was web site administration for my employer. We had an FTP client there that laid waste to anything I've seen on the Mac. It's definitely an area where developers need to get on the ball. The FTP client we used was called FTP Voyager and came with a companion program FTP Scheduler that allowed you to (yep) easily schedule uploads, downloads, synchronizations (both remote and local) and whatnot. (And yes, I know you can write Applescripts on the Mac to do the same, but this was all done through a simple GUI--like the Mac should.) Nothing, unfortunately, on the Mac competes with that.

inkswamp
Jul 23, 2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by drbyers
none of them hold a candle to Panic's Transmit FTP.

We Mac users need to stop being so defensive. Believe it--the FTP clients on Windows lay waste to anything on the Mac. I'm not trolling. I'm a Mac user; have been for 10+ years. FTP clients on the Mac like Transmit are great little programs for individuals and maybe small businesses, but for large-scale use, they fall flat on their face and lack the real power-user features that are common on Windows FTP clients. There simply isn't anything on the Mac side to compete. You have to write combinations of Applescripts, shell scripts, CRON tasks, etc. to even get close and that is a lot of work that you frequently don't have time to do on a big web site. You need the right too and that's an easy-to-use GUI on an FTP client that gives access to a rich set of powerful features (you know, the very thing we Mac users like to claim our platform is all about?) I'm very happy to see that developers are finally starting to move into this area. It's long-overdue.

123
Jul 23, 2003, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by outZider I'm wondering how you guys missed that. It's a neat little interface element called a 'dropdown', in which you select 'SFTP'.


Really? Unfortunately, it's a neat little letter called 'S' on the wrong side of the 'FTP'.

I was talking about SSL (TLS, not implicit) not SSH. As far as sftp is concerned, I use cl scp or fugu, since Transmit is not free and I'm not paying for ftp clients that don't offer the features I need.

Malic
Jul 23, 2003, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by gopher
Some webhosts require sftp. I found Fugu to be very good at that:

http://rsug.itd.umich.edu/software/fugu/

Yeah, Fugu does not suck. And it's an ongoing development effort so it will only improve. And it's free.

<flamebait>
Besides, why are people using unsecure FTP? And if your hosting provider doesn't support SSH, why are you hosting with them...?
</flamebait>

edenwaith
Jul 23, 2003, 01:29 PM
I'm glad to see so many people know the blessed application known as Transmit. :) I used Fetch 3 back on OS 8/9, but Fetch 4 seemed pretty unintuitive to me, so I stopped using it. Transmit was much better for me.

Back when I used to use Windows, I tried out CuteFTP early on, but it didn't do anything to really impress me. The last time I used Windows, I was missing some great Mac apps like BBEdit and Transmit. Any of the FTP clients I could find for Windows were pretty awful, and I did not like their interface. WS_FTP95 wasn't too bad, but their more recent versions stink (IMO).

j33pd0g
Jul 23, 2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by arn
I still use Interarchy. It was one of the first OS X native FTP clients... so I registered it shortly after I made the move to OS X.

arn

I love Interarchy. It never gives me any trouble. I bought it a while ago - vrs 5 - and have been given 1 free upgrade to 6 and at least 3 updates.

However I am glad , and welcome any software that is developed or ported over to OS X. I think it demontrates that it can be done - quicker than expected too - and in the long run will create healthy competition. Example: Lower those prices, or improve those features.

Bring it all on!

jaedreth
Jul 23, 2003, 02:09 PM
I just use ftp in terminal. But then again I don't use it often.

What can I say, I'm cheap. It's free and already installed.

Jaedreth

BobX
Jul 23, 2003, 02:15 PM
With OS X, I use the command line "ftp" and "sftp" for all my file transfer needs. I am using OS 10.1.5 and it comes prepackaged with both command line ftp and sftp included.

Some quirks I discovered with OS X.1.5's "ftp" is that when operated through a NAT -enabled DSL router, I need to specifically use "passive" mode to avoid locking up the terminal. Also, with my company's firewall, "ftp" just plain won't work with some hosts.

OS X.1.5's "sftp" works pretty well for me, but for large files, I miss ftp's hash feature where you see the # mark printed to let you know that the transfer is alive and get a sense of how fast things are going.

In my pre-OS X days, I used Fetch a lot, and also tried Netfinder.

I tried WS_FTP before on the Windows side, but thought it "overkill" for what I need to do. (I have also used command line ftp and tftp "Trivial File Transfer Protocol" clients in the DOS world... very simple tools, but they get the job done.)

Like many of you, I think porting more pro-level FTP clients to OS X can't hurt. If you don't like it, don't use it. It's not like it's crowding out your favorite FTP client or do you any harm.

Personally, I would like to see OS X Finder incorporate FTP and SFTP just like it handles iDisk and AppleShare volumes from a GUI perspective.

MacSlut
Jul 23, 2003, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by 3xtrmn8r
Agreed on the whole Transmit thing. I love it. But as for ACDSee, I haven't found a suitable replacement yet. Does anyone have any suggestions? (not iPhoto or Preview, please)

Ooops, missed that someone else recommended iView Media Pro first...I'd like to second that recommendation...I think it's really great software.

I could see how even though Transmit is really awesome for low-end use, it would be nice to have something with features that didn't require AppleScript or other hacks to do what is needed sometimes. If CuteFTP does this for the Mac, great.

jettredmont
Jul 23, 2003, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by mangoduck
say it with me, do we really need another ftp client? what are some features in cuteftp (that you commonly use) that other clients on the mac are lacking?


Competition breeds innovation.

While CuteFTP coming to the Mac is not on par with the Messiah, it is still good news. Any additional competition amongst developers on the Mac is a good thing. AND, any additional Mac developers employed out there is a good thing.

Personally, I use WS-FTP in Windows and Trasmit on my Macs. And, fairly often on both systems, I fall down to "ftp" or even "curl" on the command line for quickie-transfers.

Then again, I'm not exactly an FTP "power user" either ...

edenwaith
Jul 23, 2003, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by inkswamp
What's curious is that nobody I know on the Mac platform seems to be aware of Vicomsoft's FTP client which is light-years ahead of anything else on the Mac platform (yes, including Transmit which has admittedly improved enormously over the last year and is almost as good as Vicomsoft's client at this point.)



Vicomsoft's FTP Client looked decent. I tried the demo for a few days, and it seemed to have some good ideas going, but not enough for me to abandon Transmit (plus I have a license for Transmit).

suzerain
Jul 23, 2003, 03:17 PM
...but, why is the porting of an FTP client front page news?

Arn?

I mean...if it was something important like, I dunno...3D Studio Max or something, I'd understand, but a stupid little FTP app?

I'm not trolling...I'm kind of seriously asking this question.

DeusOmnis
Jul 23, 2003, 03:23 PM
The pricing on CuteFTP looks lame. You can buy a 1 day version of it? How stupid is that! I'm not going to pay 40 bucks for something that just FTP's shtuff. No FTP client, no matter how good it is, is worth 40 bucks. They should charge something a little more reasonable, like 15.

Archmage
Jul 23, 2003, 04:45 PM
I'm not a Mac user yet, so I don't have an opinion.

What do y'all think of FTPeel?

Freshly Squeezed Software FTPeel (http://freshlysqueezedsoftware.com/products/ftpeel/)

jaedreth
Jul 23, 2003, 04:50 PM
Looks very interesting. I'll check it out when I get home.

They look like folks that would pay attention to UI conventions.

Jaedreth

Phil Of Mac
Jul 23, 2003, 05:44 PM
Originally posted by jettredmont
Personally, I use WS-FTP in Windows and Trasmit on my Macs. And, fairly often on both systems, I fall down to "ftp" or even "curl" on the command line for quickie-transfers.


I use the FTP built into Dreamweaver for my website and for everything else, I use terminal ftp.

curl is my download manager of choice.

I'm sure someone out there can use Cute FTP, but I don't know who. I mean, if I'm running apple.com or even imdb.com, I probably don't *need* FTP, because I'm networked to the server on the LAN. Maybe not. I have no clue how these systems work.

littlejim
Jul 23, 2003, 05:44 PM
I've been playing with FTP clients for what seems like forever and they are all far from perfect.

So I say Bring on the competition! More software can only be good news.

And check out - LiFTP (http://www.liftp.net/liftp/) - it's really free.

mgescuro
Jul 23, 2003, 05:45 PM
I"m a long time Fetch user too.. since at least 3.0.3 or so. I'll probbaly check out Transmit.

I've used CuteFTP and WSFTP on the PC side of things.


Originally posted by SlowX
To be honest, I've using Fetch 4 for quite a while, ever since, like, it was the only game in town.

I'm not a big fan of Fetch although it did get the job done, but I am curious about some of these others you've mentioned here, like Transmit. I will certainly check them out!

:)

--t

punter
Jul 23, 2003, 08:04 PM
cuteFTP was the reason I switched back to Mac. Back to using interarchy. But I'm sure someone will like having osx cuteftp

Xenex
Jul 23, 2003, 09:15 PM
You realise you can already download it (http://www.globalscape.com/files/CFTPM.20030707.sit), right? BetaNews mentioned it (http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail.php3?fid=1058209173) just over a week ago.

I babbled about it briefly (http://xenex.livejournal.com/99166.html), but didn't waste my time downloading it over 14.4k dial-up after I was told it was just a quick Carbonisation (http://xenex.livejournal.com/99455.html).

Xenex
Jul 23, 2003, 09:18 PM
http://fileforum.betanews.com/screenshots/1058209173.gif

merges
Jul 23, 2003, 09:34 PM
Vicom (Vicomsoft) FTP Client was a fabulous program; I'm not sure what happened to it. It was well worth the cost!

jaedreth
Jul 23, 2003, 09:35 PM
I used Fetch for years.

I'd still use it if I didn't have Mac OS X.

Heck, I installed BitchX on my iBook (16 VRAM), as well as Mutt (email), lynx (yes, I had to install it *grumble*), and I often run my iBook in console mode. (login: >console - no password)
I even installed the folding client to run and make use of my machine while I'm not there, all command line.

I had to rerouted the console errors from /dev/console to console.log (same location as syslogs). (Too annoying otherwise.)

FTP client? Got one.

Jaedreth

merges
Jul 23, 2003, 09:36 PM
Apparently Vicomsoft has brought FTP Client to Mac OS X. Excellent!

http://www.ftpclient.com/

RogueLdr
Jul 23, 2003, 09:43 PM
I work for a media company with many remote bureaus that need an easily accesible means of transfering information aside from typical WAN setups (one of our clients needs access from a military facility where directly connected, always on networking is not a viable solution.) Last year we implemented Interarchy as our primary FTP client and we are generally pleased with the performance and features of this client.

From any Interarchy users, I would be curious how other clients stack up. Any insights?

Thanks,
RL

Snowy_River
Jul 23, 2003, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by jaedreth
I used Fetch for years.

I'd still use it if I didn't have Mac OS X.


What does that have to do with anything? There's an OS X version of Fetch. Or are you saying that you simply use the built-in FTP that OS X supports from the command line?

Phil Of Mac
Jul 23, 2003, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by shadowself
I know Interarchy back when it was called Anarchie was considered one of the best. It has evolved a bit differently lately and is not purely an FTP client.

Interarchy/Anarchie never was purely an FTP client. It was originally an Archie client. That should tell you about how old it is :)

123
Jul 24, 2003, 05:03 AM
Well, what can I say...

After trying it, I have to agree that we don't need this client. It has zero features, is slow as hell (probably written in Java or RealBasic), and they want $20 for it, it's a shame. They should have ported the pro version and used a decent programming language.

-No download queues
-No fxp (site-to-site transfer)
-No sftp (ssh)
-No ftps (ssl)
-No mirroring/archiving/scheduling
-No rate control
-No multi-part transfers
-No other features like chmoding etc.

claytonbench
Jul 24, 2003, 07:02 AM
I think Captain FTP is the best even better than cute ftp

Steven1621
Jul 24, 2003, 12:49 PM
Yay! CuteFTP is great!

jaedreth
Jul 24, 2003, 01:10 PM
I use the command line. But then again where I'm working, unix knowledge is a plus, so I'm diving in, and striving to do *everything* via the command line. I log in to console like I said earlier. I'm just starting out, but I'm getting better.

Haven't tried fetch for os x. If it's more than just carbonization, I might recommend it to my girlfriend.

Jaedreth

Orome
Jul 24, 2003, 01:25 PM
I'm still not sure anyone would pay money for an FTP client. Maybe if you are afraid browser folder view, you would need one for downloading, but managing file on an FTP is easy enough to do with a free FTP client...

Personally, I think the best Windows FTP client out there is SmartFTP. It's fast, full of features, and best of all, it's free...but it is just for Windows (unfortunately)...

If anyone is interested, here's the link:
http://download.com.com/3000-2160-10190184.html?tag=lst-0-1

DStaal
Jul 24, 2003, 01:36 PM
Just wanted to mention on Interarchie...

It does scheduled downloads/uploads. It does folder sync. (Which seem to be something people are wanting. Myself, I don't use it.)

But mostly it doesn't use real estate! It opens one window, and lets me use the finder as well. I find this much easier/nicer to use than these multipane monsters.

123
Jul 24, 2003, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Orome

Personally, I think the best Windows FTP client out there is SmartFTP. It's fast, full of features, and best of all, it's free...but it is just for Windows (unfortunately)...


It's not entirely free (has a nag screen during business hours). Unfortunately, it will never be ported to the Mac (I know the programmer).

XForge
Jul 24, 2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by spoon
It's like when they ported ACDSee to Mac. We don't need bad quality ports, when we can get much better native software.

Ecch!!! Tell me about it. ACDSee is a great tool on Windows, I saw they had a Mac version and oh my God!! I have never seen such an awful Mac port as that. It almost made me throw away the Windows version too just on principle.

Jagga
Jul 24, 2003, 08:00 PM
Why is OS X so feeble when it comes to FTP? I thought that UNIX (underpinnings) have a native support for such a thing? Anyhow CuteFTP would be huge on the Mac platform! I for one would even pay a reasonable price for it when it debuts!

gopher
Jul 24, 2003, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by Jagga
Why is OS X so feeble when it comes to FTP? I thought that UNIX (underpinnings) have a native support for such a thing? Anyhow CuteFTP would be huge on the Mac platform! I for one would even pay a reasonable price for it when it debuts!

Jaga, have you ignored the WHOLE thread? I count no less than a dozen FTP offerings for Mac OS X.

Feeble my arse. While the Finder may be feeble, there are numerous freeware and shareware alternatives, including at the command line built-in support that is better than the GUI!

Orome
Jul 25, 2003, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by 123
It's not entirely free (has a nag screen during business hours). Unfortunately, it will never be ported to the Mac (I know the programmer).

Well crap! That sucks! I didn't know about the nag screens though. I guess I don't really use it until I'm home from work anyway (which is usually late). Well, if you talk to the programmer, tell him I like his software...but we would all love it if he would do a Mac version!!!