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MacRumors
Jul 17, 2007, 11:10 PM
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The son of Hartmut Esslinger, a designer for Apple in the early 80s posted a collection (http://fudder.de/artikel/2007/07/17/origin-of-the-iphone/) of never before published images of Apple Designs from the early 80s including several Apple phone designs.


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2007/07/18/5b1169e356_300.jpg


This design resembles Apple's Apple //c (http://applemuseum.bott.org/sections/computers/IIc.html) design.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2007/07/18/apples-first-phone-designs/)



siurpeeman
Jul 17, 2007, 11:12 PM
it makes me want apple to incorporate phone capabilities in all macs. just plug in a phone line (in addition to support for voip) and dial away.

arn
Jul 17, 2007, 11:27 PM
http://www.msu.edu/~luckie/notephone.gif

Siemens made a Newton phone, btw

arn

GoCubsGo
Jul 17, 2007, 11:34 PM
http://www.msu.edu/~luckie/notephone.gif

Siemens made a Newton phone, btw

arn

Looks like one of those pda cell phone padfolios that you can fold up and put in your briefcase.
Cute

nostaws
Jul 17, 2007, 11:52 PM
some cool looking stuff. Interesting to see. Jobs was at apple then. In the images, I saw the apple phone, and a cube computer design. Both which jobs revisited upon returning. I wonder how much of that stuff is representative of Steve Jobs, and if any of that is still floating around in his head for product ideas.

I assume that triangle thing was a mouse, it actually looked pretty comfortable in the hand for being so angular.

JPyre
Jul 18, 2007, 12:02 AM
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2007/07/18/5b1169e356_300.jpg



"I know that hand. It was in the fall 1973 Bulova watch catalog." - Derrick Zoolander


Interesting stuff, I wonder if the bill collectors would still charge a fee for check by phone. This also brought back to mind the AT&T video phones, what ever happened to them?

LimeiBook86
Jul 18, 2007, 01:11 AM
Wow some of these are so cool! :D This (http://fudder.de/fileadmin/media/galleries/apple/Snowwhite%20Mac%20(1983)%20(1).JPG) Macintosh design almost looks like an iMac.

Plus I'm sure this (http://fudder.de/fileadmin/media/galleries/apple/Macintosh%20(1982,1983)%20Ziel%20-%20ein%20freundliches%20und%20typisches%20Computer-Design%20(2).jpg) would of ended up worse than the puck-mouse, hehe :) Great story!

juststranded
Jul 18, 2007, 01:38 AM
Wow some of these are so cool! :D This (http://fudder.de/fileadmin/media/galleries/apple/Snowwhite%20Mac%20(1983)%20(1).JPG) Macintosh design almost looks like an iMac.

Plus I'm sure this (http://fudder.de/fileadmin/media/galleries/apple/Macintosh%20(1982,1983)%20Ziel%20-%20ein%20freundliches%20und%20typisches%20Computer-Design%20(2).jpg) would of ended up worse than the puck-mouse, hehe :) Great story!

Heck, that thing still looks better than a lot of PC's being sold. I'd buy it.

Scottgfx
Jul 18, 2007, 02:14 AM
The son of Hartmut Esslinger, a designer for Apple in the early 80s posted a collection of never before published images of Apple Designs from the early 80s including several Apple phone designs.

Perhaps it was because of the breakup of AT&T in the early 1980's, but it seems everyone was working on phones. As evidenced by this...

http://www.atarimuseum.com/ataritel/index.html

Atari actually had some good industrial design back in the day. Too bad they got caught up in the price war with Commodore.

Lixivial
Jul 18, 2007, 05:17 AM
In the images, I saw the apple phone, and a cube computer design. Both which jobs revisited upon returning. I wonder how much of that stuff is representative of Steve Jobs, and if any of that is still floating around in his head for product ideas.

Well I think the Cube was probably derived from his NeXT origins, personally. Plus it would appear he's always been/still is fascinated with cube designs (NeXTCube, G4 Cube, Fifth Avenue Apple Store). But I, too, have always wondered if he trawled through Apple's past when he returned in '97.

I mean, it's quite amazing how a lot of those designs reflect current and recent Apple products. As LimeiBook86 pointed out, this (http://fudder.de/fileadmin/media/galleries/apple/Snowwhite%20Mac%20(1983)%20(1).JPG) looks like the G3 iMac.. This (http://fudder.de/fileadmin/media/galleries/apple/MacBook%20(1982,1983)%20-%20Projektion%20zur%20Zukunft%20des%20NoteBooks.JPG) looks like the iBook/MacBook, or then-future Apple laptops. Leopard's Stacks dates from around 1994, and I'm sure there are a many more unutilized prototypes/ideas that have since been implemented that we don't know about. And if the naming on the images is accurate, it would seem certain names even came from that foregone era as well.

Interesting stuff, indeed.

fixyourthinking
Jul 18, 2007, 05:36 AM
Apple actually shipped 20 or so (for beta testing) of the The Paladin which was a Phone/Fax/Computer/Scanner/Copier/Printer. It was based on the PowerBook Duo. I owned one in 2002 and sold it a few months later on eBay. I'm surprised this was left out of the mix. Good article though.



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iMeowbot
Jul 18, 2007, 05:46 AM
I'm surprised this was left out of the mix.
The images linked in the OP are from frog design. That project was from after their relationship with Apple had fallen apart.

Well I think the Cube was probably derived from his NeXT origins, personally.
Kinda sorta. frog did the cube, so there is a relationship of a kind to the sketches and mockups seen here.

mainstreetmark
Jul 18, 2007, 07:59 AM
"I know that hand. It was in the fall 1973 Bulova watch catalog." - Derrick Zoolander


Interesting stuff, I wonder if the bill collectors would still charge a fee for check by phone. This also brought back to mind the AT&T video phones, what ever happened to them?

http://www.ojophone.com/homepage

eenduiker
Jul 18, 2007, 10:01 AM
the poor site is down for the additional pics.:eek: Here is the google cache:

http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:9cEN8GynDpIJ:fudder.de/artikel/2007/07/17/origin-of-the-iphone/+http://fudder.de/artikel/2007/07/17/origin-of-the-iphone/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=safari

maler
Jul 19, 2007, 02:28 AM
Seems to me like pictures from Apple Design book, so not "unpublished". But i must check at home.

Yankees 4 Life
Jul 19, 2007, 07:32 AM
Heck, that thing still looks better than a lot of PC's being sold. I'd buy it.

haha so true, i would definently buy that thing. throw away my crappy landline fone!

thejoshu
Jul 19, 2007, 11:36 AM
Many of these (all? I'd have to take a look) were published in Paul Kunkel's excellent coffee-table book AppleDesign. Good luck finding a copy.

branjosef
Jan 29, 2009, 11:35 PM
This is so awesome. Awesome find.

kdarling
Jan 30, 2009, 07:43 AM
So where is Apple and their home phone now? We need one.

Verizon has stepped in with their new Hub (http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/35351/hands-on-with-the-touchscreen-verizon-hub/) using VOIP, with 800x480 touchscreen and neat little widgets for family use:

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/patterson__11/patterson-42527461-1233262878.jpg?yme06tADag3sblRl

I think this will be a year of home convergence. I have an HP Touchsmart in the kitchen, which is used by everyone for surfing, weather reports, TV Guide, notes and especially video Skyping. It can DVR too, with a cable attached. Also has voice control. It just needs a landline phone connection as well.

Nokia's been working for years on integrating smartphones with home entertainment systems and so forth.

Should be fun. Can't wait. Apple needs to be in this arena, and not just with Apple TV.

branjosef
Jan 30, 2009, 10:48 AM
So star trek looking... Love them all

ingenious
Jan 30, 2009, 10:56 AM
it makes me want apple to incorporate phone capabilities in all macs. just plug in a phone line (in addition to support for voip) and dial away.

you mean like a 56k modem.....??

WPB2
Jan 30, 2009, 11:10 AM
it makes me want apple to incorporate phone capabilities in all macs. just plug in a phone line (in addition to support for voip) and dial away.

Dude what are you talking about. You want to use you mac as a telephone (PSDN). That is a step backward. How about Skype, google talk, or the many other VOIP services out there. There are way too many to name.

Martin Finch
Feb 5, 2009, 01:26 PM
I'm loving the retro looking images. Ah, wish I was born in the 70's :)

-M

chr1s60
Feb 5, 2009, 01:47 PM
It would be interesting to see the impact that these earlier Apple phones would have had on Apple's entry to the cell phone market.

betaboy78
Feb 9, 2009, 06:53 PM
"I know that hand. It was in the fall 1973 Bulova watch catalog." - Derrick Zoolander

That made me laugh!

mabittin
Feb 9, 2009, 07:21 PM
yeah

ziggyonice
Feb 9, 2009, 07:37 PM
yeah

nope

cswiger1
Feb 13, 2009, 09:09 AM
nope

maybe?

kikykuang
Feb 14, 2009, 02:13 AM
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2007/07/18/5b1169e356_300.jpg




Like this phone, can i buy this model from where?
Who can tell me

iParis
Feb 18, 2009, 11:53 PM
Like this phone, can i buy this model from where?
Who can tell me

I don't think it was ever an idea, it was a concept design Apple thought about doing for a phone.

iKungFu
Feb 19, 2009, 06:30 AM
The idea of the Newton phone being applied to the iPhone isn't so far fetched. Imagine docking the iPhone into a display/keyboard setup...

IaMTheDuDe
Feb 20, 2009, 04:29 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)

The son of Hartmut Esslinger, a designer for Apple in the early 80s posted a collection (http://fudder.de/artikel/2007/07/17/origin-of-the-iphone/) of never before published images of Apple Designs from the early 80s including several Apple phone designs.


http://images.macrumors.com/article/2007/07/18/5b1169e356_300.jpg


This design resembles Apple's Apple //c (http://applemuseum.bott.org/sections/computers/IIc.html) design.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/iphone/2007/07/18/apples-first-phone-designs/)


I bet this thing has cut and paste ;)

kdarling
Feb 20, 2009, 04:46 PM
I bet this thing has cut and paste ;)

Note that it allows use of a stylus, too.

:D

ashjamben
Feb 21, 2009, 10:18 AM
if i could, i'd definitely buy one of those for my home phone :)

AdrianoCardillo
Apr 16, 2009, 10:19 AM
Many of these (all? I'd have to take a look) were published in Paul Kunkel's excellent coffee-table book AppleDesign. Good luck finding a copy.

Anyone know where I can find this book?

diemos
Apr 16, 2009, 10:38 AM
nice find, cool phone, thanks.

DEVILMAYCRY99
May 6, 2009, 06:46 AM
it makes me want apple to incorporate phone capabilities in all macs. just plug in a phone line (in addition to support for voip) and dial away

SpitzerCR
May 6, 2009, 10:19 AM
I have to wonder why apple hasnt increased its product line up??? Then again if your a successful company why would you..

omniinvoice
May 13, 2009, 06:24 AM
Anyone know where I can find this book?

http://www.amazon.ca/Appledesign-Apple-Industrial-Design-Group/dp/1888001259

Insulin Junkie
May 18, 2009, 12:19 AM
That looks surprisingly modern for an early 80's device, even if it's only a concept.