Best shows that got cancelled

[jbomber]

Every once in a while the TV execs screw one up big time. Like can anyone explain why M.A.S.H. was on the air for so long? Never thought it was terrribly impressive...

Anyway, I think one of the greatest shows that never had a chance was "SportsNight". It was about a bunch of people working on a TV sports magazine like Sportscenter. It was really well-written and well-acted, but ultimately ABC gave it the axe because there wasn't a laugh track.... I don't think the average audience was able to keep up.

If you want to check it out, it's on super-late on Comedy Central.

[vollspacken]

1. Ren & Stimpy
2. Futurama
3. Sei Jushi Bismarck a.k.a. Saber rider

vSpacken

[tazo]

dilbert, futurama

[mrjamin]

Eldorado & Noel's House Party
</joke>

[MacFan25]

SportsNight was a great show, and it definitley shouldn't have been canceled.

It's out on DVD - you should get it.

[evoluzione]

Match of the Day (it got cancelled didn't it??)

Grandstand (although the theme lives on as a ringtone on my mobile :D )

Manimal

Cold Feet

[claytonbench]

SEINFELD

[jelloshotsrule]

2 shows with kevin nealon...

the first was:

"champs" (1996)- a show about a bunch of high school basketball teammates and their coach.... once they're grown up... ie, they're all still friends and live near each other and stuff... nealon was the highlight, but it was funny beyond him...

and not as good as champs was:

"hiller and diller" (1997)- nealon and richard lewis were two parents... typical sitcom, but kevin nealon is awesome, so i'm partial to it. ;)


i know there are a few others... i would have liked to see some more of michael richards' show, not because it was good, because i didn't see it, but because timmy meadows was on it and you can never have too much timmy meadows...


seinfeld didn't really get "cancelled".... it was more like cheers...

[eyelikeart]

more like shows that are no longer...

• Cheers
• Seinfeld
• In Living Color
• MTV's "The State"

[phgreer]

That idiot, Lessie Mooves, was the biggest idiot for canceling such a great show just after the first season and at one of the best cliffhangers at that!

:mad:


BRING BACK "NOW AND AGAIN"!

[jethroted]

I thought futurama has not been officially cancelled. I heard that it was put on the shelf until further notice, but not cancelled. Anyway, my picks are as follows.


G-1 Transformers
Kids in the Hall
Married with children

[Mr. Anderson]

Futurama had potential, it just didn't quite make it.

Greg the Bunny was fantastic - but the network didn't want something so cerebral as a puppet with a show that dealt with issues.....:rolleyes:

Blah!

D

[Six]

By far, the best show that was stopped was THE CRITIC. It's still on really late on sunday nights, but its not much fun being exhausted on mondays, and i dont have TIVO :(

[britboy]

Originally posted by evoluzione
Match of the Day (it got cancelled didn't it??)

Grandstand (although the theme lives on as a ringtone on my mobile :D )

Manimal

Cold Feet


You can still get match of the day, but only when the bbc cover an international.

Best show to get cancelled: Fawlty Towers :D

[MacFan25]

Originally posted by claytonbench
SEINFELD
I think I could watch Seinfeld for weeks and never get tired of it. :D

[Capt Underpants]

My personal favorites were:
Married with Children

The show with the bunny and the "Hit the road Jack theme song." I can't believe I don't remember the name!!! I used to watch it alot though.

I love lucy was great. It is still syndicated, so I watch it alot.

Mighty Morphin Power Rangers ( I think now it's like Power rangers in a galaxy?)

Well that is my list. I miss these shows, even though two of them are in syndication, and the other has a predecessor.

[patrick0brien]

AUTOMAN!

Haaaaaaaaahahahahaha!

[iJon]

seinfeld without a doubt. it comes on 3 times a day and i watch them all. i really miss jackass too.

iJon

[Das]

1. Newsradio
2. Invader Zim
3. Family Guy
4. The State (old MTV skit show)

[Dignan]

Freaks and Geeks

[crazytom]

Family Guy!!!!

I loved that show!

[Flowbee]

Originally posted by claytonbench
SEINFELD

Seinfeld didn't get cancelled. Jerry and the producers decided they wanted to end the show while it was still good, and not drag it out until nobody's watching any more (ie. M*A*S*H, All In The Family, etc.). If NBC had its way, that show would still be on the air (ie. Friends).

My vote goes to HBO's "Mr. Show with Bob and David." The third season is coming out on DVD in mid-August.

[Veldek]

Futurama, indeed. It had even more potential than The Simpsons and has been great. That's definitely the show I miss most.

Another one on my list is Special Unit 2. This one started here in Germany just some weeks ago and I like it very much, but as they only made one season, it will be over soon...:(

[morlium]

wonderland.
nightmare cafe.

[Kwyjibo]

Originally posted by crazytom
Family Guy!!!!

I loved that show!

Yeah I totally agree, Heres an interesting side note; the 11:30 EST showign on Cartoon Network averages 1million viewers per night and beats leno and letterman in th 18-34 demo. Also they are planning on show the very controversial (i've seen it) 50th episode that basically makes jew jokes the whole time but it is quite funny.

I loved seinfeld but i don't think it counts as cancelled because the network didn't shut it down, seinfeld himself did. Shows that simply run their course shouldn't be counted as cancelled

I was never a futurama fan but it had its moments.


oh yeah great thread idea :)

[szark]

Nowhere Man (http://www.nowhereman.org/)

[Perci Mac]

Due South (show on CBS with a canadian mounty and chicago police officer stopping bad guys. There was also a show on CBS where a cat brought a guy tomarrows paper and he would have to stop the bad things from happening. And definitely Freaks and Geeks, that show was awesome.

[TEG]

Originally posted by Capt Underpants
The show with the bunny and the "Hit the road Jack theme song." I can't believe I don't remember the name!!! I used to watch it alot though.
Mighty Morphin Power Rangers ( I think now it's like Power rangers in a galaxy?)


You are thinking of "Unhapply Ever After" The first good WB series.

The MMPR, have been so screwed up over the years now they ar like Ninjas on ABC Saturdays (I think the name is Ninja Force) (I have cousins who watch and talk about it all the time... same for Pokemon)

Also.....
FUTURAMA is not cancelled, it is going to be a summer show, plus several of the vocal actors have had health problems/other projects (Katy Segal is currently busy with 8 Simple Rules...)

I miss SportsNight (On CSC), Also Nash Bridges was cancelled after an intense Season Finale. The Family Guy was on the wrong network (I know it IS Fox, but still), It should have been on NBC or WB. Greg the Bunny was great, but trying to steal from loyal audences from Star Trek and The West Wing, if it was on Monday or Saturday it would have been great. Don't Forget "God, the Devil, and Bob" The best look at the truth about religion in years, cancelled becaue it was realistic (Similar to the stories of Job). Also from the UK - The Thin Blue Line, Great show, funny as all 'el'. The New Twilight Zone is over, they are also trying to compete againts Raitings Giants, it should be on Fridays, but its too late now.

I'd like to also see ABC rerun Monk episodes again, there are a lot of people who don't have Cable, or can't get USA, and are missing out on great programs like Monk and The Dead Zone.

TEG

[Stelliform]

I can't believe nobody mentioned farscape! (http://www.farscape.com/)

I guess that is why it was cancelled. :(

[Taft]

Originally posted by jbomber
Every once in a while the TV execs screw one up big time. Like can anyone explain why M.A.S.H. was on the air for so long? Never thought it was terrribly impressive...

While I agree that Sports Night was a great show and that a lot of quality shows never get a chance on the major networks, I COMPLETELY disagree about M.A.S.H. I think M.A.S.H. is one of the great TV shows of all time.

But to answer you question these are the shows I think should have been on the air FAR longer than they were (in a very specific order):

1. Family Guy
2. Futurama
3. Andy Richter Controls the Universe
4. Sports Night
5. Strangers With Candy


Taft

[TEG]

I just thought of 4 more....

The Invisible Man (The one with the gland and the "Fish and Game" Department)
Early Edition is the one with the cat and the newspaper, its got a little strange near the end, but could have been fixed.
The Hughley's... excellent sitcom, great acting, and good plots.
Andy Richter Controls the Universe, if Fox doesn't want it, it should be on Comedy Central... it would work.

TEG

[ExoticFish]

Ren & Stimpy (hurray for it being on again though!)
Invader Zim
Futurama
Dark Angel

i dunno after that, there are a bunch, i just can't remember right now.

[Flowbee]

Originally posted by Kwyjibo
Also they are planning on show the very controversial (i've seen it) 50th episode that basically makes jew jokes the whole time but it is quite funny.

Yeah, there's nothing better than a half-hour of 'jew jokes' to keep me laughing. :confused: :mad:

Now if they would only show Amos & Andy again...

It must be fun to feel so superior, Kwyjibo.

[rueyeet]

Most recent pick would have to be Invader ZIM: real potential there, among the randomness that so irritates me on a personal scale. Flashes of sheer brilliance. *sigh* I miss the cupcake too. :(

I dunno about Farscape....I'm watching the first season's DVD box with the neighbors and it just hasn't really roped me in yet. Not like B-5 did, anyway.

Can't think of much else. I don't watch whole bunches of TV.

[Foxer]

1. Newsradio (althoguh it did go down hill after the loss of Phil Hartman)
2. Futurama
3. MST3K - in its hayday, it was the best.
4. Original Star Trek - it WAS cancelled, after all.
5. V: The Series - I haven't seen this since the 80's, and I'm sure it sucked, but when it was cancelled i was one PO'd junior high kid.

[Das]

Originally posted by Flowbee
Yeah, there's nothing better than a half-hour of 'jew jokes' to keep me laughing. :confused: :mad:

Now if they would only show Amos & Andy again...

It must be fun to feel so superior, Kwyjibo.

Umm, they did like 2 seasons of Catholic jokes so it's not that horrible.

oh and I forgot one of my most ferverite nerd shows 7 Days, may ye rest in peace. Oh and after watching a few episodes of the new ren and stimpy show, I'm missing it being off the air.

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by patrick0brien
AUTOMAN!

Haaaaaaaaahahahahaha!



ahh yes, the car that went round corners rather rapidly at 90 degrees sharp, awesome. another from the same era as Manimal :)

[TEG]

I just remembered Dark Angel.... It was a great pesimist's view of the future. Also seemed very Seattle-ish, when I was away from home it reminded me why I didn't like being in Seattle for too long... most of the stuff going on in the Show parallel's events in the city. And Jam Pony seems almost too much like UPS (Founded in Seattle - So was Airborne Express, long story) The Best thing was the last episode. Also I remember the use of many Macs because of their magnetic Shielding along with the Aztek that Logan had... made me want to buy one. Just too bad they never used the names of real places in the area. Like Sedro Island is actuall Whidbey Island (My Home)... and seveal other inaccuracites... other that that is was a great show.

TEG

[jadariv]

I don't know if anyone will remember this show. It ran on ABC for a couple seasons in the mid to late eighties.

SLEDGEHAMMER. Very funny show. Had some (Airplane, Naked Gun) type humor.

The opening sequence of the pilot episode is still one of the funniest scenes i have ever seen on t.v.

[patrick0brien]

Originally posted by evoluzione
ahh yes, the car that went round corners rather rapidly at 90 degrees sharp, awesome. another from the same era as Manimal :)

-evoluzione

YES! Someone else who remembers! I was getting worried.

Yeah, that was on the heels of TRON - in fact, the cosume effects guy was the same one who did the glowing circuit effect for TRON.

The car, the helicopter, that incredible-looking plane,and the perverted cursor that 'drew' it all.

I caught a few epps on SciFi a little while ago, yeah, from my adult, new millenium mind, it was hokey as heck, but to a ten-year-old, that was the shizzle (did I just say that?!?)

[patrick0brien]

Originally posted by jadariv
SLEDGEHAMMER.

-"Trust me, I know what I'm doing."

:D :D :D

[Angelus]

I must agree about the cancelation of the invisible man remake.
That show was great,i used to stay up til 1am each saturday to see it.
There was a great buddy film type interaction and it had some great humour.
Macguyver was such a cool show too.

[Abstract]

1. Sports Night
2. Andy Richter Controls the Universe

Andy Richter was a lot like the show 'Scrubs', and yet its still on. Screwy.

I remember a show that was called "Its All Relative" or something similar, where there was a black father, a white mother, and a chinese son, a black son, a black daughter, a latino son, and a few other kids. They just played their stereotypes. So the chinese son was obviously brainy and good at math and computers (and probably kungfu as well), while the black son was good at basketball, and the black daughter was probably pregnant or something stupid.

The show lasted 1 episode, and probably got cancelled mid-show. :p

[idea_hamster]

1. Home Movies
(currently in syndication on Adult Swim, Sunday, 11:00pm, Cartoon Newtork)

2. Futurama

3. Northern Exposure
(for, if you recall, they aired 4 episodes, canned it, then brought it back after getting thousands of "Hey, I liked that show" letters -- Bravo, Vox Populi!)

[MacManDan]

Originally posted by Perci Mac
Due South (show on CBS with a canadian mounty and chicago police officer stopping bad guys.

Ahh yes .. Due South. That's one of my personal favorites. TNT showed the series for a while and then quit .. but very few people saw the humor in it. :(

[ExoticFish]

Originally posted by idea_hamster
3. Northern Exposure
(for, if you recall, they aired 4 episodes, canned it, then brought it back after getting thousands of "Hey, I liked that show"

I loved Northern Exposure! I used to watch it all the time and still do when I can catch a rerun.

Other shows that I loved watching as a kid:

ALF
Knight Rider
Air Wolf
The Dukes Of Hazard (my personal favorite as a kid)
McGyver

they should come out with box sets of all these shows! i'd buy them!!

[trebblekicked]

i can't believe no one said the upright citizen's brigade. strangers with candy was good, too, but it was no UCB.

i thought undeclared looked promising, and andy richter controls the universe was great but horribly underfunded from day one (towards the end of last season, they switched from a real studio with real sets to mostly blue screens and digital sets.)

[ExoticFish]

Kids In The Hall! man did i love that show. i was on reruns on comdey central but i haven't been watching a lot of tv in a while so i'm not sure if it's still on

[mrjamin]

Originally posted by Perci Mac
Due South (show on CBS with a canadian mounty and chicago police officer stopping bad guys. There was also a show on CBS where a cat brought a guy tomarrows paper and he would have to stop the bad things from happening.

i LOVED both those shows!! I have the Due South theme (Jay Semko) in my MP3's and listen to it daily ;)

[Taft]

Originally posted by Flowbee
Yeah, there's nothing better than a half-hour of 'jew jokes' to keep me laughing. :confused: :mad:

Now if they would only show Amos & Andy again...

It must be fun to feel so superior, Kwyjibo.

So you must really hate South Park, the Daily Show, Sammy Davis, Jr., Adam Sandler, Judy Gold, etc.

There are plenty of Jews out there joking about their religion and heritage. And there are plenty of Jews out there who get that humor and many who LOVE it.

Get off your PC high horse and cut Kwyjibo a break.

BTW, my heritage includes English, Irish, Scottish, and German and one of my grandparents was Jewish. So, with all of the cheap/hard-drinking/cold-hearted-efficiency/bad-cooking/good-with-money jokes out there, I could choose between being:

a) Hyper sensitive and really pissed at everyone all of the time.
b) Oblivious. I just ignore it.
c) In on the joke and having a good time.

Which do you think I am?

Taft

[Taft]

Originally posted by trebblekicked
i can't believe no one said the upright citizen's brigade. strangers with candy was good, too, but it was no UCB.

i thought undeclared looked promising, and andy richter controls the universe was great but horribly underfunded from day one (towards the end of last season, they switched from a real studio with real sets to mostly blue screens and digital sets.)

I'd completely forgotten about that one! I liked that show too. But I thought it was more hit and miss than Strangers With Candy. Definitely funny, though. The fryer episode was priceless.

I think I'll have to go hunting through my old VHS tapes when I get home. URCB is beckoning.

Taft

[Taft]

Originally posted by ExoticFish
Kids In The Hall! man did i love that show. i was on reruns on comdey central but i haven't been watching a lot of tv in a while so i'm not sure if it's still on

The Kids in the Hall was definitely one of the best sketch comedy shows ever made. But it was on for quite a while. Canadian audiences kept that show going for well over five seasons.

I'd guess it was probably on for around 8 seasons.

Good show? Yes. But I don't think it went unappreciated. You can still catch episodes on Comedy Central.

Taft

[RHutch]

Originally posted by Dignan
Freaks and Geeks


I really liked Freaks and Geeks.

I miss Titus.

I am really upset with NBC for cancelling Hidden Hills this season. This was its first season, but it was my favorite comedy. I wrote several times, as did many others, to no avail. I guess it wasn't enough like Friends, Will & Grace, or Frasier. Why would anyone want something different?!

[Flowbee]

Originally posted by Taft
So you must really hate South Park, the Daily Show, Sammy Davis, Jr., Adam Sandler, Judy Gold, etc.

There are plenty of Jews out there joking about their religion and heritage. And there are plenty of Jews out there who get that humor and many who LOVE it.


And there are many others who don't LOVE it. What's your point?


Get off your PC high horse and cut Kwyjibo a break.

Taft

It's good to know you're here to tell me how I should think. Remind me to check in with you before I have another opinion.

[P-Worm]

There was a show on FOX a long time ago that I really enjoyed. I can't remember the title of it, but it was about a realistic military training virtual reality that had been taken over by a sadam like figure. And one of the players was trying to take it back to get out.

P-Worm

[sketchy]

I am a huge fan of Farscape. You had to watch season three to really really get into the show.

I read that John Doe (fox) got canceled after season one. That show was good.. and had really good potential.

Big O (animation) but the Cartoon Network convinced the Japanese studio to finish the series.
------

Those top my list.

Dave

[Taft]

Originally posted by Flowbee
And there are many others who don't LOVE it. What's your point?


My point is that comedy of this form has become less an anomoly and more the norm in recent years. And most people think this is a good thing. It breaks down racial/societal barriers. By pointing out our differences in humorous ways, it actually serves to celebrate the different races and ethnicities and expose the truly racist people out there as the jokes they are.

But you are free to hold your opinions. Unless...


It's good to know you're here to tell me how I should think. Remind me to check in with you before I have another opinion.

The opinion you formed of Kwyjibo was based off of a single statement in a single post. IOW: based off of a single statement, you accused Kwyjibo of feeling racial "superior" to jews. That is no small charge, especially based off of so little information.

When people are so reactive and sensitive to such a statement, I generally think they are being ridiculous. Here, I thought you totally over reacted, so I called you out. I'm free to my opinion too, right?

Well, if I had my way, you'd be off your PC high horse and talking about the subject of the thread, not smearing Kwyjibo. That is my opinion.

Taft

[patrick0brien]

Originally posted by Flowbee
It's good to know you're here to tell me how I should think. Remind me to check in with you before I have another opinion.

-Flowbee

I've never had issue with anything your mentioned before, but this stuck me. You are correct, noone has the right to tell you what to think, but that's not what happened. You were asked to be careful what you say.

Yes, in the US we have the right to free speech, but that comes with the responsibility of saying it - and possible repurcussions that follow it. One cannot say something incitive, then claim innocence of the firestorm that it causes.

I'm not saying what Kwyjibo said was non-offensive, but it was clearly his opinion, and not trying to oppress yours.

Taft was simply asking you to cut him a break - at the base level, comedy is victimization for the enjoyment of an audience. Anyone can take offense.

[tazo]

Originally posted by Das
Umm, they did like 2 seasons of Catholic jokes so it's not that horrible.

oh and I forgot one of my most ferverite nerd shows 7 Days, may ye rest in peace. Oh and after watching a few episodes of the new ren and stimpy show, I'm missing it being off the air.

I think its just kind of funny how if the show made black jokes they would be racist, if they made white jokes they would be stupid, if they make catholic jokes they are anti-catholic, but if they make jew jokes they get great ratings.

I guess it just shows the hypocritical anti-semitism in this country :rolleyes:

[tpjunkie]

I would list futurama here, but seeing as its still listed as a show on the fox.com website, im not gonna call it "cancelled"

However, family guy, cheers, seinfeld, freaks and geeks, and the short lived (why?) Undeclared on fox are among my top shows that got cancelled...Undeclared more than any other show i've ever seen made me want to get to college as soon as i could.

[szark]

Farscape: Why didn't I think of that!?!?!?

Originally posted by Das
oh and I forgot one of my most ferverite nerd shows 7 Days, may ye rest in peace.

That was a great show, but it was actually a bit fortunate that it got cancelled when it did (before 9/11).

Originally posted by evoluzione

ahh yes, the car that went round corners rather rapidly at 90 degrees sharp, awesome. another from the same era as Manimal

How about:

Whiz Kids
Misfits of Science
Turbo Teen


:D :D :D

[Taft]

Originally posted by tazo
I think its just kind of funny how if the show made black jokes they would be racist, if they made white jokes they would be stupid, if they make catholic jokes they are anti-catholic, but if they make jew jokes they get great ratings.

I guess it just shows the hypocritical anti-semitism in this country :rolleyes:

I don't think it has anything to do with anti-semitism.

There are a lot of Jewish people out there who make a living by poking fun at their own heritage and culture. Just like there are a lot of black people who make a living doing the same thing ("Didja ever notice that white guys walk like this....while black guys walk like this").

Now you could argue on both sides about wether this behavior is damaging to the respective cultures or if it actually makes things better. But I am firmly on the side of it makes things better. I think people like Dave Chappel, Jon Stewart, Chris Rock and July Gold are unbelievably funny comedians. Sure, they are unbelievably irreverant, but they all poke fun at their own heritage and their ethnicity's place in society and people respect and like them for that.

Have you ever seen an audience doubled over laughing at a Chris Rock show? Notice how it isn't just black people laughing? Or just white people? Thats the sight of people looking at each others differences and not going "ewwww" or "they are different from me, thats weird!", but rather just having fun and enjoying themselves. They are celebrating the differences.

And sometimes these comedians do touch on serious isssues and problems with race/ethnicity. But I think the effect is, in the end, positive.

Have all of you guys seen South Park? One of the two main writers for the show is Jewish. I don't think there is a show with more anti-jewish statements in it (mostly from Cartman). But that doesn't mean the show is supporting anti-semitism. Kyle is generally at ar with Cartman and in the end Cartman looks like the evil, morally lacking, racist that he is, and Kyles life goes on as normal. I think the message of the show is: just let things go already.

I can come up with about a million situations on TV where a racially "insensitive" comment is made, and where that comment isn't really promoting racism.

And none of this is to suggest that anti-semitism or racism doesn't exist. I'm just saying that in terms of the content of media, insensitive comments are often used in situations that are anything but racist.

Taft

[trebblekicked]

Originally posted by Taft
The Kids in the Hall was definitely one of the best sketch comedy shows ever made. But it was on for quite a while. Canadian audiences kept that show going for well over five seasons.

I'd guess it was probably on for around 8 seasons.

Good show? Yes. But I don't think it went unappreciated. You can still catch episodes on Comedy Central.

Taft

KITH did 6 full seasons for HBO. ( i think there was at least one that was just CBC) They called it a quits after season 6 because no one in the group (but for Mark McKinney) wanted to keep doing sketch. Bruce McCulloch went on to do a couple comedy albums, McKinney went to SNL, Thompson did solo comedy stuff, Foley did News Radio and some movies, and Kevin McDonald did a couple of movies, too. From what i heard, Brain Candy was a rough time for the group, as no one saw eye to eye anymore.

I caught their last tour in NYC and got to chat with Dave Foley and mark McKinney afterwards. They were both very generous with their time.

[tazo]

Originally posted by Taft
I don't think it has anything to do with anti-semitism.

There are a lot of Jewish people out there who make a living by poking fun at their own heritage and culture. Just like there are a lot of black people who make a living doing the same thing ("Didja ever notice that white guys walk like this....while black guys walk like this").

Now you could argue on both sides about wether this behavior is damaging to the respective cultures or if it actually makes things better. But I am firmly on the side of it makes things better. I think people like Dave Chappel, Jon Stewart, Chris Rock and July Gold are unbelievably funny comedians. Sure, they are unbelievably irreverant, but they all poke fun at their own heritage and their ethnicity's place in society and people respect and like them for that.

Have you ever seen an audience doubled over laughing at a Chris Rock show? Notice how it isn't just black people laughing? Or just white people? Thats the sight of people looking at each others differences and not going "ewwww" or "they are different from me, thats weird!", but rather just having fun and enjoying themselves. They are celebrating the differences.

And sometimes these comedians do touch on serious isssues and problems with race/ethnicity. But I think the effect is, in the end, positive.

Have all of you guys seen South Park? One of the two main writers for the show is Jewish. I don't think there is a show with more anti-jewish statements in it (mostly from Cartman). But that doesn't mean the show is supporting anti-semitism. Kyle is generally at ar with Cartman and in the end Cartman looks like the evil, morally lacking, racist that he is, and Kyles life goes on as normal. I think the message of the show is: just let things go already.

I can come up with about a million situations on TV where a racially "insensitive" comment is made, and where that comment isn't really promoting racism.

And none of this is to suggest that anti-semitism or racism doesn't exist. I'm just saying that in terms of the content of media, insensitive comments are often used in situations that are anything but racist.

Taft

whatever. "Online debating is like...."

[madoka]

Futurama was cancelled a while back. The reason why you're seeing new episodes right now is because Fox is finally getting around to showing the episodes they delayed over the past two years. Check the alt.tv.futurama newsgroup if you want the details. I get the sense that Fox was willing to let Futurama die off because they did not control it as they do the Simpsons (Groening had more negotiating power when he created Futurama and kept more creative and economic control over the show, much to the chagrin of Fox execs.).

The shows I miss:

1. Futurama
2. Duckman (surprised no one else mentioned this, it was brillant)
3. Family Guy
4. Married With Children (though it was dying down, Fox should have had the class to let it go out with a bang. It was after all their first show ever, and their only hit for a long time. Shame cast members found out that the show was cancelled from radio/media sources and they never got to do a finale.)

[SumDumGuy]

1. Futurama (watch it every night on Cartoon Network and am anxiously awaiting the second season DVD)

2. Kids in the Hall (my pen! you've got my pen!)

3. News Radio (It did go down after Phil died, but still a hilarious show)

4. Dream On (anyone else remember this one? WHY hasn't HBO released this on DVD? )

5. Hardcore TV (Another HBO gem that will probably never be seen again....favorite lines "It's a belt! and "I stopped stuttering" If you've seen the show, you get the joke. This guy (http://www.davekonig.com) was the host.)

[Das]

Originally posted by tazo
I think its just kind of funny how if the show made black jokes they would be racist, if they made white jokes they would be stupid, if they make catholic jokes they are anti-catholic, but if they make jew jokes they get great ratings.

I guess it just shows the hypocritical anti-semitism in this country :rolleyes:

What the heck are you smoking? The fact that they do two seasons of Catholic jokes doesn't bother yet one UNAIRED (oh yah, biiiig ratings) show that had some Jewish jokes somehow offends you? Sounds like hypocritical anti-Catholicism. :rolleyes:

Besides, this is a stupid argument. Fer cryin out loud the show was billed as the Anti-PC show what would you expect? That's what was funny about the show. Crapple, go watch test screen patterns...

Oh and I forgot to mention the A-Team. Dang I loved that show. When are they going to come out with a boxed DVD of that?

[solvs]

I think it's funny that you're arguing over an episode you obviously haven't seen.

I have seen "Once Upon a Weinstein", the Family Guy episode in question. The father does make some inappropriate comments, but that's the point. He's obviously made fun of for being an idiot. It makes fun of racism, and in the end he learns that stereotypes, negative AND positive are wrong. That racism in any form isn't just bad, it's stupid.

Mostly it makes fun of him, and makes fun of the fact that he thinks his new Jewish friend is a stereotypical Jew. It was actually pretty funny. To cry racism lessens the meaning of the term. Over sensitivity makes it harder to take someone seriously when it's really happening (:cough: crying wolf).

BTW, I'm half Jewish.

-

"All white people are racist" - Angry Black Man (think about that one for a second)

[pEZ]

Due South was excellent, I'm glad that someone mentioned that.

Two shows that I loved but only aired like 4 or 5 episodes each were "She TV" and "Maximum Bob" - nobody watched them. Whenever I like a show, it's doomed to die. Just the way it is.

[patrick0brien]

Originally posted by pEZ
Whenever I like a show, it's doomed to die. Just the way it is.

-pEZ

Please, please please watch and like American Idol please!

[tazo]

apparently people dont understand the term, i dont care. :rolleyes:

[solvs]

BTW... ZIM RULEZ!!!

Sorry, had to get that outta my system. From the genious who brought you Johnny, the Homicidal Maniac - Johnen Vasquez.

Take that in you Politically Correct pipe and smoke it. :D

[tpjunkie]

There has been a ton of debate over the "Wish upon a Weinstien" episode of Family Guy in this thread. I am Jewish, and have the episode on my computer. In my opinion, Fox could have aired this episode and gotten away with it. The message of the show is not an anti-semetic one. I am not offended by humor in the episode, and thought it was pretty frickin' hillarious...The only concern that I really had about the whole thing was this:

[HUMOR] Why did they only air the episode in Germany? :p [HUMOR]

[solvs]

Originally posted by tazo
apparently people dont understand the term, i dont care. :rolleyes:

If you had seen the episode, then you could call it whatever you want.

But then again, if you had seen the episode, you wouldn't have called it that. But it's okay, we know you meant well, and that's cool. No hard feelings, racism is bad. And making fun of Jews is only funny sometimes, like when that guy on Seinfeld converted to Judism just to make the jokes.

That was funny.

Family Guy, Futurama, Zim, etc. were highly entertaining shows, but they were a little hard to get used to sometimes. Ah well.

:sarcasm: Can't wait for the new friends spin-off. :sarcasm: :rolleyes:

[scem0]

Xena
News Radio

Those are really the only 2 shows I have ever really loved and followed.

scem0

[Waluigi]

Family Guy was one of my favorite shows ever. A few months ago, I heard some rumors of a Family Guy movie due in 2006 give or take a year. I hope that those rumors are true, because there is a huge fan base for it.

--Waluigi

[Roger1]

Starblazers. The first anime cartoon. It was a great series.

The pretender was also pretty good.

Another one that was good was a sci-fi one (I don't remember the name). It had to do with earth fighting some creatures from outerspace, whom just so happened to emigrate from earth some 800,000 years ago. There were also human looking robots involved. It was pretty good, but you had to watch it every week in order to follow it.

[VIREBEL661]

I got one -

COPROCK!!!

Just kidding - wanted to post something...

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Stelliform
I can't believe nobody mentioned farscape! (http://www.farscape.com/)

I guess that is why it was cancelled. :(

Yeah wtf, they killed mid frikken season after going what, like 5 seasons?

[jbomber]

Originally posted by P-Worm
There was a show on FOX a long time ago that I really enjoyed. I can't remember the title of it, but it was about a realistic military training virtual reality that had been taken over by a sadam like figure. And one of the players was trying to take it back to get out.

P-Worm

I think that show was called VR.5

I never really watched it a whole lot, but it seemed like it may have been ok.

[jbomber]

Originally posted by MrMacman
Yeah wtf, they killed mid frikken season after going what, like 5 seasons?


Yeah, really what's up with that? It was a damn good show, it was just in a terrible timeslot. I know a ton of people who liked it but just couldn't ever get around to seeing it. It was definitely one of the best sci-fi series ever made.

[applemacdude]

•Futurama
•Seinfield
•Family Guy
•Beavis & Butthead

[P-Worm]

Originally posted by jbomber
I think that show was called VR.5

I never really watched it a whole lot, but it seemed like it may have been ok.

No it wasn't that, I remember hating that show. It was mor military based...

Another show that I just remembered: Get a Life. It was about a 25 year old paper boy. That was one of the funniest shows that I had ever seen.

P-Worm

[Roger1]

I believe the show was called Space:Above and Beyond. It would be neat to see it again.

[Phil Of Mac]

Star Trek, definitely.
Battlestar Galactica

One of the networks (I don't remember which) had an immensely innovative science-fiction series called Now and Again, about this guy who was almost killed but was rebuilt by the government with spare parts. He ws prohibited from seeing his family and ventured around with the doctor in charge of the project. They cancelled it after only one season though. It wasn't at all popular, I don't think, and I didn't really like the name, but it was a cool show.

I also remember one quote from it, from the spontaneous human combustion episode (Mr. Weismann is the rebuilt man): "No, Mr. Weismann, people do not just spontaneously burst into flames!"

[wdlove]

"Gideon's Crossing"
"Homicide"

I miss Andre Brauer.

[ExoticFish]

Originally posted by jbomber
I think that show was called VR.5

I never really watched it a whole lot, but it seemed like it may have been ok.

oh man! VR5! i loved that show but after the first season they left it at a cliff hanger and it never aired again! bastards!

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by tpjunkie
There has been a ton of debate over the "Wish upon a Weinstien" episode of Family Guy in this thread. I am Jewish, and have the episode on my computer. In my opinion, Fox could have aired this episode and gotten away with it. The message of the show is not an anti-semetic one. I am not offended by humor in the episode, and thought it was pretty frickin' hillarious...The only concern that I really had about the whole thing was this:

[HUMOR] Why did they only air the episode in Germany? :p [HUMOR]

You spelled weinstein wrong.

And I'm german, and jewish so even though I'm not offended someone should be.

Originally posted by jbomber
Yeah, really what's up with that? It was a damn good show, it was just in a terrible timeslot. I know a ton of people who liked it but just couldn't ever get around to seeing it. It was definitely one of the best sci-fi series ever made.
There will always be debate on such a thing because it was the total wrong thing to do, not their line up looks like this:
crap
crap
Old Farscape
SG1
crap
crap
crap
Mystery Science Theater 3000 (old, duh)

Its just horrible.

[Phil Of Mac]

On the other side, the worst show that didn't get cancelled is Enterprise, on UPN.

[plinkoman]

the original star trek. the next generation and ds9 were good, and voyager had its good moments, but none can compare to the original....... and enterprise is a joke

[SumDumGuy]

No it wasn't that, I remember hating that show. It was mor military based...

Another show that I just remembered: Get a Life. It was about a 25 year old paper boy. That was one of the funniest shows that I had ever seen.

P-Worm

I had totally forgotten about that show! I think Chris Elliotts character was 30 instead of 25, which makes the premise even funnier.

BONUS - I just did a little googling and found that there are 2 DVD volumes of "Get a Life" available! Sweetness!

[Xero]

i didnt read through the whole thread. but it seems that every now and then a good series pops up on the sci-fi channel, and it always seems to get canned. examples of good shows there:

Mystery Science Theater 3000 [hilarious!]
Sliders [ i didnt see any mention of this show, but it was pretty damn good, with an interesting concept/plot]
Farscape [this show was awesome, i followed it a bit early on, but the lack of full cable for a while, and it being in a strange time-slot stopped me from being able to watch it, though i had a friend who followed the whole series, and i still liked what i saw. but this is one of those shows thats hard to follow if you dont watch every episode]
The Invisible Man [given that its concept seems cliche at first, i thought this show pulled it off quite well]

other good shows were:
Family Guy
Futurama
Sealab 2020
etc..

i LOVE adult swim on cartoon net, minus the late night anime stuff tho: its hard for me to get into that stuff, mainly cause theres so many different types and the animation is usually sub-par.

and yeah, wtf is up with friends?! someone needs to put an end to that show. i mean, it shows that theyre running out of ideas. it just seems like a bunch of married/pregnant people trying to hold on to their single lives... does that make any sense to anyone?:p

[rainman::|:|]

anyone remember American Gothic? talk about ending a show before it concluded... that one was ended before anyone knew what the hell was going on :confused:

it was still way cool tho... wonder if it will ever find it's way to DVD. i hear SciFi carries it sometimes, i've never managed to catch it tho...

pnw

[jbomber]

Originally posted by Xero

Sliders [ i didnt see any mention of this show, but it was pretty damn good, with an interesting concept/plot]

Ah DAMN! How'd i forget Sliders!? Jerry O'Connell as the odd teenage genius, and Sabrina Lloyd pre-SportsNight. (you see what i did there? ;) ). I really liked the first few seasons but unfortunately the show spiraled out of control and ended in well-deserved cancellation.

[funkywhat2]

I guess nobody remembers Pete and Pete? The show was great, but I think the music was even better. And the show was really great.

I really miss Daria. I used to watch the reruns on Noggin, but then my parents ditched the dish ($), and Upright Citizens Brigade will be remebered, even if I only saw two episodes.

[jbomber]

Oooooh... Family Guy is on right now.

Junk food...
Beer...
Family Guy...

What could be better than this?



-15" aluminum laptop


Dammit!

[evoluzione]

Originally posted by szark
How about:

Whiz Kids
Misfits of Science
Turbo Teen


:D :D :D



ohhhh, i think i remember whiz kids! haha, Degrassi (Junior) High i remember i liked too.

what about Blake's 7??

oh, there was this show in England, on BBC2 I believe, like an adventure quiz thing, and the last game involved walking over this kind of lattice walkway, all futuristic like, and you had to avoid the droid thing and not fall through the wholes...... anyone??? can't for the life of me remember what it was called.

oh, The Crystal Maze was great, kinda died after the Rocky Horror guy left (or did he die? Richard O'Brien i think it was)

[Macpoops]

Family Guy...show was so funny but it never really dawned on me how offensive it was, until i watched the DVD set for about 3 hours. I'm not surprised that it got cancelled but it still is one of the funniest shows ever made...Best 10 seconds of family guy. Blackie Weather Forecast

[tpjunkie]

Yeah, I forgot to mention sliders...however, once it moved to sci-fi and almost the entire original cast was off the show, it was definitely time to let it die...I wonder why Jerry O'Connell left the show...it was probably the best thing he's done since Stand By Me, and its not like he left to pursue other great acting jobs...I mean, Kangaroo Jack? :rolleyes:

[Veldek]

Originally posted by Roger1
I believe the show was called Space:Above and Beyond. It would be neat to see it again.

Oh yeah, great show! That's another one I would like to see further shows from. It's been great SciFi and I was really sad when I saw the ending.

[P-Worm]

Hey, what about that show Twin Peaks. That ended before it was over and left a lot of people confused. Not that Lynch would have made it make any sense anyway. :)

P-Worm

[wdlove]

I also miss "Twin Peaks." It always seems that the good shows especially the ones that are more cerebral don't last long! :(

[VIREBEL661]

OK, seriously...

- Vampires (cool late night show, early 90's I think)

- Tales From The Darkside (80's late night neo Twilight Zone with more horror... Remember the movie version with Deborah Harry???)

- Night Heat (I really liked this show for some odd reason)

- MST 3000 (Did anyone mention this one already??? Sorry - haven't read all the posts..)

[VIREBEL661]

MST 3000 = Mystery Science Theatre 3000 BTW :)

[jbomber]

Originally posted by Veldek
Oh yeah, great show! That's another one I would like to see further shows from. It's been great SciFi and I was really sad when I saw the ending.

oh man... i watched this all-day marathon of it and the ending had me in tears...

[solvs]

Speaking of vampires, remember Forever Knight? That was a cool show.

[Fat Tony]

Enos - the spinoff from the Dukes of Hazzard.
and
Family Guy, hands down.

[filmcutter]

1. Twin Peaks & American Gothic were both way ahead of their time.
2. Homicide best of the genre by far.
3. Sports Night genius comedy.
4. Home Movies for the best 2D animated comedy.
5. Gary & Mike for the best stop-motion animated comedy - I am a bit biased on this one because I was the editor of the series. Not only was it a well written comedy but it was a blast to work on. Still hoping for a comeback, more than Comedy Central reruns...

[jbomber]

Originally posted by filmcutter
1. Twin Peaks & American Gothic were both way ahead of their time.
2. Homicide best of the genre by far.
3. Sports Night genius comedy.
4. Home Movies for the best 2D animated comedy.
5. Gary & Mike for the best stop-motion animated comedy - I am a bit biased on this one because I was the editor of the series. Not only was it a well written comedy but it was a blast to work on. Still hoping for a comeback, more than Comedy Central reruns...

Really? You were the editor? I loved that show. Damned cliffhanger ending... Any real chance that it'll make a comeback? I think it just needs the right network and it'll get the recognition it deserves.

[filmcutter]

Originally posted by jbomber
Really? You were the editor? I loved that show. Damned cliffhanger ending... Any real chance that it'll make a comeback? I think it just needs the right network and it'll get the recognition it deserves.

Yeah, it was a lot of fun. We had a tough time, starting with Fox who dropped the show before we even aired. UPN picked it up and allowed us to do 13 episodes. They aired them all (a couple got a couple airings) and then decided it just wasn't getting the ratings to make up for the $1million per episode cost. They did show them on Comedy Central for a while (still can get clips on their site).

I doubt that it'll ever come back. The creators/executive producers/head writers have moved on and created the Jamie Kennedy Experiment. You get a good idea of the minds I got to work with from that show!

By the way JBomber - Nice web site!

[Dros]

I can't believe that no one has mentioned Chris Elliot's "Get a life" yet. The bit where he finds an alien then names him Spewey (an acronym for 'Special Person...Entering the World...Egg Yolks') has had me laughing for years.

[jbomber]

Originally posted by filmcutter

I doubt that it'll ever come back. The creators/executive producers/head writers have moved on and created the Jamie Kennedy Experiment. You get a good idea of the minds I got to work with from that show!

It's really a shame. That show is definitely head and shoulders above most of the stuff that's on tv right now. the writing was clever, and there were a lot of subtle things that gave you an impression of just how much work must have gone into making it as a great a show as it was.

Originally posted by filmcutter
By the way JBomber - Nice web site!

Thanks man. :) It's a couple years old tho and due for an update.

[solvs]

Originally posted by Dros
I can't believe that no one has mentioned Chris Elliot's "Get a life" yet. The bit where he finds an alien then names him Spewey (an acronym for 'Special Person...Entering the World...Egg Yolks') has had me laughing for years.

Um... it has been mentioned. Several times. Funny though.

[jbomber]

anybody watch the Larry Saunders show? I never really liiked it too much when it was first out, but now in retrospect, it's pretty funny. just the weird interactions with the celebs playing themselves makes it worth watching.

[chrisfx811]

Originally posted by crazytom
Family Guy!!!!

I loved that show!
word

[agreenster]

Politically Incorrect -with Bill Maher

I loved that show. I think he is smart and hilarious.

And I am SICK of f*ckin reality shows. How contrived they all are!

[jbomber]

Originally posted by agreenster
Politically Incorrect -with Bill Maher

I loved that show. I think he is smart and hilarious.

And I am SICK of f*ckin reality shows. How contrived they all are!

But they're so REAListic! Remember that time when we got stuck in the amazon with a bunch of other hot people and we had to compete in wacky games in order to get food? Ah... good times..... :)

[kiwi_the_iwik]

I really went for Millennium - great show.

Others I liked:

Automan (great show - loved the old computers...)
Sliders (did they ever get back?!?)
Due South
Larry Sanders (is it still going?)


And ones you wish will NEVER be resurrected (i.e. the BAD list):

BJ and the Bear
Knight Rider (although currently re-running)
CHiPs (as with Knight Rider)
After M*A*S*H (feckin' dreadful spinoff)
Hart to Hart
Scarecrow & Mrs. King
Enos (WHAT?!? Dukes of Hazzard suck- er - I mean SPIN-off)

[TEG]

Also... Dilbert, Sliders.

Farscape was really out there.

Crusade - The only good thing to come from Babylon 5.

Seaquest... Best NBC Show Ever, it was awesome, and it would be nice if it was even syndicated... Then Seaquest 2032. Great Ideas, strong story, crappy timeslot.

TEG

[solvs]

Seaquest was great, until they turned it into Star Trek: TNG. The android, the psychic. I tried watching a couple of times after Roy Scheider left, but it wasn't as good.

Sadly, much like Sliders, I also lost interest.

[TEG]

I hate doing this, but i have more that popped into my mind.

Brisco County Jr. A good western and was quite good being on before X-Files... Loved Watching it.

The Lone Gunman, Excellent show, and I still think of the guy who played Jimmy Bond as Jimmy Bond.

TEG

[jbomber]

I had a flashback today.

MTV Animation:
Downtown

It was set in new york city and the animation was really cool. it had a dark edginess to it. I think the were going to continue producing it, up until they 'downsized' their whole animation dept a few years ago.

[Ambrose Chapel]

Originally posted by jbomber
anybody watch the Larry Saunders show? I never really liiked it too much when it was first out, but now in retrospect, it's pretty funny. just the weird interactions with the celebs playing themselves makes it worth watching.

the episodes with david duchovny are hilarious. DD has a crush on Larry...

[Gus]

I'm probably the only person alive who thinks this, but I liked "The Single Guy" with jonathan Silverstein and Ernest Borgenine. I mean, Ernest Borgenine, how can you not like it? ;)

Wish we still had:
Bosom Buddies
A-Team "I pity the fool!"
Beavis and Butthead
and though not really cancelled, Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Regards,
Gus

[Phil Of Mac]

Originally posted by Gus
A-Team "I pity the fool!"

Actually, Mr. T never said "I pity the fool" on the A-Team. That's from Rocky III, in which Mr. T played Rocky's opponent Clubber Lane. The full quote, referring to Rocky, is, "I don't hate Balboa, I pity the fool."

Incidentally, Mr. T used to be Sylvester Stallone's bodyguard. Before that, he worked as a bouncer.

[jbomber]

Originally posted by Ambrose Chapel
the episodes with david duchovny are hilarious. DD has a crush on Larry...

Hahahaha, those are great ones.

The one where he sleeps with Ellen is funny as hell too.

Larry: (the morning after)Do uh, do lesbians ever sleep with men?

Artie: Hell yeah. The best piece of ass i ever had was from a lesbian.

[Gus]

Yes, you are right, but it's a much better tag line than something about how crazy Murdock was. :)

From an old Burfer King commercial with Mr. T,
"Hey you! You in the suit, you're in a LOT of trouble!"

HeHe

Regards,
Gus

[Gus]

Originally posted by Phil Of Mac
Actually, Mr. T never said "I pity the fool" on the A-Team. That's from Rocky III, in which Mr. T played Rocky's opponent Clubber Lane. The full quote, referring to Rocky, is, "I don't hate Balboa, I pity the fool."

Incidentally, Mr. T used to be Sylvester Stallone's bodyguard. Before that, he worked as a bouncer.

Fine then, Mr. Smarty, then you might want to know it was Clubber LANG, not Lane. ;)

(This was a joke, only a joke. In the event of a real put down, instructions would have been given on how to beat the ever-lovin' crap out of me. Once again, it is only a joke.)

Regards,
Gus

[Phil Of Mac]

Crazy Murdock also played a recurring role on Star Trek: TNG as Lt. Barclay. Among other things, he had a fear of the transporter.

In fact, I think Lt. Barclay was more fun than any of the regular cast of TNG :)

[Judo]

Any Australians here. Full Frontal was a bloody good show mate. The Games was good but didn't quite beat Full Frontal.

Bring back Mike Moore

[MattG]

Originally posted by VIREBEL661
MST 3000 = Mystery Science Theatre 3000 BTW :) I used to watch that ALL the time!!

[jzieske]

Originally posted by jbomber
Anyway, I think one of the greatest shows that never had a chance was "SportsNight". It was about a bunch of people working on a TV sports magazine like Sportscenter. It was really well-written and well-acted, but ultimately ABC gave it the axe because there wasn't a laugh track.... I don't think the average audience was able to keep up.

If you want to check it out, it's on super-late on Comedy Central.

Not only is SportsNight the best cancelled show it is one of the best show period. Not sure if anyone mentioned yet but they sell the entire sieres on DVD for $25 bucks at Target. Great Buy.

[OutThere]

Definitely Family Guy, that was the most hilarious show ever

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by OutThere761
Definitely Family Guy, that was the most hilarious show ever

Yes I must second that, and it had quite a large fan base too.

Family Guy
Futurama
Mystery Science Theatre 3000
Seinfied (they could have made a better ending atleast)

The first 3 shows they never should have ended, ever.

:p