When the hell is Command and Conquer 3 coming to the Mac?!

[Frohike]

I've been looking for a specific date on the release of the mac version of tiberium wars but everywhere simply says July 2007... i would have thought that there would be a specific date for release seeing as there are only five days left in July after today! Either that or they have already released it and i'm being dumb! Anyway a little help on the subject would be greatly appreciated!

All the best,
Frohike

[giganten]

It is not out for mac yet :(.. And I dont think nobody knows when they will release it.

[Frohike]

Yeah its just that on wiki and the EA site and at the WWDC conference they all say late July and there have been no announcements that it is delayed! Kinda getting annoying that there is little or no information on the subject!

[CrescentEdge]

Yeah its just that on wiki and the EA site and at the WWDC conference they all say late July and there have been no announcements that it is delayed! Kinda getting annoying that there is little or no information on the subject!

This is really starting to bother me as well. Annoying as it is when a game is announced 2 years in advance only to get bumped back 4 times etc., it's equally frustrating when there is no information what so ever on a title and as of right now, that seems to be exactly the case with these fabled EA/Mac titles.


Here are a few websites with "up to date" information on the release dates just to give people an idea of how little information there is. There are plenty more out there, but this sampling covers the range I found most often.

Apple.com
Status: Coming Soon
Link: EA Announcement (http://www.apple.com/games/articles/2007/06/ea/)

Gamespot.com
Status: July 2007
Link: Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/mac/strategy/commandconquer3/index.html?tag=tabs;summary)

1up.com
Status: Already released as of May 2007... go figure. Definitely not the case.
Link: 1up (http://www.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3160217)

Gamespy.com
Status: Summer 2007
Link: Gamespy (http://pc.gamespy.com/mac/command-conquer-3-tiberium-wars-/)

Gamedb.com
Status July 2007
Link: Mac Game Database (http://www.gamedb.com/ssps/0/1/01429)

IGN.com
Status: 404
Link: There are still links to Command and Conquer 3 for the mac, but they are all broken. Like the one off this (http://search.ign.com/products?query=command+and+conquer+3) page.

In short, it doesn't seem like there is any movement at all on the EA/Mac games front, and as we near the end of July, it does raise some questions at to what exactly is going on since many of the sites I found listed July as the "go date". I tried calling an Apple store on the off chance they had shipping information for the various titles, but they sounded like they were totally in the dark.

I guess there isn't a whole lot one can do save wait and see what happens. I just wish Apple or EA would give some indication of the status of these games.

[Frohike]

It just seems so crazy that, like you said, there is no information... i mean they seemed pretty sure of it at WWDC. I assumed that they'd made the game for mac already and had just pulled the release date a little away from the conference... i mean that would be the obvious thing as they announced it and everything!

It's almost as if everyone apart from a few unhappy command and conquer fans on mac have forgotten that this announcement was ever made! I mean... the announcement was made... wasn't it? I'm not just imagining it?!

There's gotta be some information on it somewhere... some one, somewhere, must know something!

[CrescentEdge]

It will be even more frustrating if they don't have any news on the 31st. Of course, at the rate things are going, that seems quite possible, if not likely. Since the games are using Cider and not running totally natively, the "production time" should be really short. Not to mention, the games are all already out on the PC and using Cider, the port should be pretty quick.

I broke down and bought C and C 3 for the PC and am running boot camp. The game runs well, though my ATI X1900 really gets going. Honestly, I am less than happy with the solution, since I don't like having to maintain 2 operating systems and there are still some holes in Boot Camp to be sure. Not to mention, XP is not my favorite OS... by a long shot.

[Keebler]

yup...very annoying indeed. i'm still waiting for word on madden08 for the mac as well.

i guess i'll just keep saving those pennies until they come out :)

[miniConvert]

I'm also disappointed with the quiet surrounding C&C3 for Mac. I'm waiting to buy it for someone and it's annoying to be given a time-frame for something and then here nada!

[hob]

*strokes iMac disc slot* soooon my pretty.....


um,

otherwise

ouch.

it's the last day of the month. there should be SOMETHING about this today, maybe ? guys ? :o

[CrescentEdge]

I'm starting to worry that, much like July 31st is sometimes used as a tentative "placeholder" for a release date (signifying "sometime unspecified that month but probably a lot later"), July might be a "placeholder" for "sometime this summer but possibly later."

Of course, it's impossible to tell since there is still no new information as far as I can tell. It seems a bit silly of Apple and EA to announce a title, hype the "speed" and "ease" with which Cider will allow pc titles to come to the mac, and then be incredibly slow in the update and information process.

At this point, I would rather they fully port the game allowing it to run as a Universal Binary natively on both PPC and Intel Macs since the whole Cider thing doesn't seem to be as speedy as initially stated. Of course, it's probably naive to think this is any sort of priority for EA. It's probably very near the bottom of the "To Do" list.

[Paulyboy]

It's not just that none of the four titles Bing Gordon said would be out in July have been released. The strangest thing to me is there's absolutely nothing about any of the six announced titles anywhere other than the WWDC thing. No system requirements. No "Mac" designation anywhere on EA's website. No word. Nothing.

I'm guessing this all happened because Transgaming approached EA and was persistent (not the other way around). And I'm also guessing this all happened very recently which would give reason as to why "Mac" or the Apple logo doesn't appear in print or TV ads for Harry Potter, Madden, and Tiger Woods. Of coarse that doesn't explain why EA couldn't hire a Mac web guru to add Mac-related stuff to its website. Heck just a "Mac" button on their frontpage that links to a single Mac-related webpage with updated information on these games wouldn't be too much to ask. Would it?

As for the Bing Gordon WWDC appearance. He probably just called Steve and asked if he could stop by on the way to his daily golf outting. :)

This whole situation just boggles the mind.

-PN

P.S. Madden 2008's worldwide release is scheduled for August 14th. Didn't Bing also say simultaneous Mac release for that one?

[BornAgainMac]

Vaporware. Perhaps they really meant that you can play all the EA games if you run Bootcamp on your Mac.

[Krevnik]

Vaporware. Perhaps they really meant that you can play all the EA games if you run Bootcamp on your Mac.

They did say games would be run on OS X, and even demoed one in OS X at WWDC. Vaporware? Maybe, but they were talking about games on OS X quite specifically.

[iProd]

EA betrayed us

[giganten]

EA betrayed us

Yeah..

[markmcm]

Looks like something is going to happen on August 7th. According to commandandconquer.com

[kaltsasa]

There is an Apple event on the 7th, so maybe we'll see it then. I'm dern stoked for this game.

[iProd]

Looks like something is going to happen on August 7th. According to commandandconquer.com


Wow, awesome find! Direct link here: http://www.commandandconquer.com/intel/default.aspx

[quigleybc]

weren't there supposed to be other games out in July too?

what about Harry Potter and some others....?

looks like that's not happening...

weak

[ilogic]

give it to me now!!!!!

[CrescentEdge]

Wow, awesome find! Direct link here: http://www.commandandconquer.com/intel/default.aspx

Perhaps I am missing something, but that link leads to an article concerning a Command and Conquer 3 mod for Crysis, a new FPS coming out later this year. I didn't see anything about the mac on that page but maybe I missed it?

It just looked like a hype page for something they are calling "The Dead Six" which will be a C and C add-on for this (http://www.incrysis.com/) game. Please let me know if I am misreading that page, since I may very well have missed something important.

[iProd]

Perhaps I am missing something, but that link leads to an article concerning a Command and Conquer 3 mod for Crysis, a new FPS coming out later this year. I didn't see anything about the mac on that page but maybe I missed it?

It just looked like a hype page for something they are calling "The Dead Six" which will be a C and C add-on for this (http://www.incrysis.com/) game. Please let me know if I am misreading that page, since I may very well have missed something important.


Command & Conquer 3 will be revolutionized right here on August 7th, be sure to check back!

And we all know Apple's got something going down on the 7th.. :eek:

[MIDI_EVIL]

Gaming spec Mac on Tuesday...!

Shhh.


Rich.

[ilogic]

Where the heck is my Mac Kane Edition???

[Gymnut]

Nope, no news yet. I get the feeling that link with that announcement to check back on the 7th of August is just a mere coincidence with Apple's media event.

[BornAgainMac]

Blah. I'll file this under Duke Nukem Forever.

[Sbrocket]

Yep, sounds just like another Duke Nukem Forever.

[Chone]

WTF? The big "revolution" is battlecast primetime?

Man what a load of BS.

[levitynyc]

wtf! I definitely expected it to be released today.

This is crap. Why can't we even get a release date???

[twoboxen]

Dirty, dirty lies.

EA is a slave shop for software engineers anyways. Man, Blizzard looks better every day.

Anyone tried the unofficial port? I bought 2142 for my windows PC late last year, just curious if i can play online with my same key.

[DanB91]

anyone try e-mailing EA?

[EvryDayImShufln]

EA sucks ****, no offense to fans but they constantly disappoint me. And those stupid sports games, they rerelease them every year and make a complete KILLING on them. It's ridiculous, I want my CnC 3!

[yetanotherdave]

This sucks. Absolutely nothing. Well into August now and not a word.
Why would they specifically say July in June if they weren't absolutely ready?
Something fishy is going on, I read somewhere that at the iMac announcement journos were specifically not allowed to ask about gaming on the mac.

[CrescentEdge]

Yeah this is pretty lame. Either they didn't really have a release date all along and July was just a weak way of saying "summer," or they have hit some sort of snag, likely on EA's end. I just wish there was some information on the issue. Right now it is dead in the water.

[iriejedi]

Yeah this is pretty lame. Either they didn't really have a release date all along and July was just a weak way of saying "summer," or they have hit some sort of snag, likely on EA's end. I just wish there was some information on the issue. Right now it is dead in the water.

On a apple web page I read that ALL the EA games will be intel only. Sigh - of well one less CnC3 sale for EA

Here is for the hope that Apple will begin to port games to its 'other step family' of computer owners.... back to waiting 3 years for a hot game to arrive to the Mac

[giganten]

I want CnC3 now :(.

[CrescentEdge]

On a apple web page I read that ALL the EA games will be intel only. Sigh - of well one less CnC3 sale for EA

Here is for the hope that Apple will begin to port games to its 'other step family' of computer owners.... back to waiting 3 years for a hot game to arrive to the Mac

Yeah. It's somewhat of a racket. They won't even run natively on the Intel machines and though the performance hit from Cider is supposedly minimal, I'm still skeptical. I will certainly be purchasing C and C 3 when it does come out, if only to show that there is interest in mac games that don't require the use of boot camp.

The sad thing is, at the rate they are going, assuming they had their act together and cared about mac users at all, they certainly could have brought these games to both G5s and Intels and natively on both.

My opinion of EA was pretty rotten to begin with and this isn't helping. That said, it's not surprising in the least. Still frustrating though.

[alecmac]

I emailed Apple asking what the hold up was.. here is their response:

The games announced by EA will be coming soon. Learn more:

http://www.apple.com/games/articles/2007/06/ea/

Regards,
Apple Games
http://www.apple.com/games/

... very helpful indeed.

[fblack]

Tuncer's blog over at IMG...

I did, however, get one phone call back from EA's distribution department. When we inquired about carrying EA's new products on Macgamestore.com, the person on the other end pretty much flat out said that we wouldn't be able to order any games through EA. Not only that, but EA had decided it would give Apple a 90-day exclusive on their first four Mac titles. When I asked why EA would do that, the person responded, "it's a way to say thanks to Steve for putting us in the keynote". Huh? After some more small talk, the lady promised to get back to me but never did.

http://www.insidemacgames.com/features/tuncersblog.php?ID=110

Apple is going to get a 90 day exclusive? Closest Apple store is over 100miles away from me. I guess I will wait after 90 days and get it with free shipping and no taxes from Amazon...

[Gymnut]

The title to that blog speaks volumes. I have to disagree somewhat Tuncer's comment about Aspyr. Some of their ports run terribly on some machines and it seems like their patches/fixes/updates are far and few between.

[TheStranger55]

Personally if you have boot camp, I would just get the PC version. It'll probably be cheaper, and more up to date with patches and not to mention it'll probably have an expansion pack. The mac version might not even get the expansion pack for it.

[bigandy]

Apple is going to get a 90 day exclusive? Closest Apple store is over 100miles away from me. I guess I will wait after 90 days and get it with free shipping and no taxes from Amazon...

apparently, apple have an online store now. :p ;)

[fblack]

apparently, apple have an online store now. :p ;)

Really you can buy things online?:eek: You mean like using the computer? They have that now?:p

Hmmm...must be why I said free shipping and no taxes from Amazon. I'll wait a bit to see reviews, patches and save a few buc-aroos.

[CrescentEdge]

Personally if you have boot camp, I would just get the PC version. It'll probably be cheaper, and more up to date with patches and not to mention it'll probably have an expansion pack. The mac version might not even get the expansion pack for it.

That probably is the best solution at this time. I personally can't stand running two operating systems since you have to do twice the maintenance to keep them both up to date. That and it's difficult to use windows when you have been using OSX for so long.

That said, I did try Command and Conquer 3 using boot camp and it ran very well. It's a very scalable game graphically, so even weaker systems can run it just fine.

Gamespot did a "Hardware Perfoamance Guide" for C and C 3. Here (http://www.gamespot.com/features/6168067/index.html)

Still. I would like to be able to run it on the Mac side of things, just because that's where I do all my work.

[TheStranger55]

That probably is the best solution at this time. I personally can't stand running two operating systems since you have to do twice the maintenance to keep them both up to date. That and it's difficult to use windows when you have been using OSX for so long.

That said, I did try Command and Conquer 3 using boot camp and it ran very well. It's a very scalable game graphically, so even weaker systems can run it just fine.

Gamespot did a "Hardware Perfoamance Guide" for C and C 3. Here (http://www.gamespot.com/features/6168067/index.html)

Still. I would like to be able to run it on the Mac side of things, just because that's where I do all my work.

Well maintaining vista or xp in boot camp isn't that bad if you just use boot camp to do gaming. As long as you don't surf the net or check your e-mail in windows then you pretty much don't have to do anything, other than updating the boot camp drivers from time to time or automatically updating windows.

I use windows in boot camp just for gaming and everything else I use Mac and Parallels.

Most C & C usually get an expansion pack and if you get a Mac version, you risk not being able to play the expansion pack.

[swampfox]

I'm a mac newb and I hear that macs are not that great for games. Oh yeah, feel your pain on EA being dumb with CnC 3. (always hated sports games anyway):(

[fblack]

I'm a mac newb and I hear that macs are not that great for games. Oh yeah, feel your pain on EA being dumb with CnC 3. (always hated sports games anyway):(

Depends on the game, the mac, and the settings you want to play at. A MacMini with integrated graphics isn't going to do so hot, a MacPro with an X1900XT will do better.

[swampfox]

Depends on the game, the mac, and the settings you want to play at. A MacMini with integrated graphics isn't going to do so hot, a MacPro with an X1900XT will do better.
That figures, do you have any experience with games on a macbook pro? I'm in the market for one and was wondering how they deliver on games.:confused:

[ghall]

I emailed Apple asking what the hold up was.. here is their response:

The games announced by EA will be coming soon. Learn more:

http://www.apple.com/games/articles/2007/06/ea/

Regards,
Apple Games
http://www.apple.com/games/

... very helpful indeed.

Yeah, all they say for release dates is "coming soon". Thanks alot.

Anyone try contacting EA directly?

[fblack]

That figures, do you have any experience with games on a macbook pro? I'm in the market for one and was wondering how they deliver on games.:confused:

This should give you an idea...

http://barefeats.com/santarosa.html

:)

[swampfox]

This should give you an idea...

http://barefeats.com/santarosa.html

:)

wow thanks for the link this really helps.:apple:

[levitynyc]

Has anyone tried to email EA about this?

[AaronOcean]

Any chance that this will run on a now-gen MacBook?

[Eidorian]

Any chance that this will run on a now-gen MacBook?Possibly at all low settings. I still expect a slideshow though.

[ghall]

I just sent EA an email. I'll post back if I ever get a response.

Edit: Okay, I got an automated email that more or less said "get bent! We can't be bothered with your questions."

[AaronOcean]

Possibly at all low settings. I still expect a slideshow though.

Ugh...that kills all hope I had for Starcraft II also.

Has anyone used C&C3 using Boot Camp? How did that run?

[levitynyc]

Any chance that this will run on a now-gen MacBook?

It shouldn't be too bad. C & C for PC was designed with a low end system in mind. Ive seen benchmarks for a low-end PC and it performed well.

[shinji]

I just sent EA an email. I'll post back if I ever get a response.

Edit: Okay, I got an automated email that more or less said "get bent! We can't be bothered with your questions."

Maybe transgaming would know better? It is just a port through cider.

[koops]

Ugh...that kills all hope I had for Starcraft II also.

Has anyone used C&C3 using Boot Camp? How did that run?

i installed it 2 days ago on XP - the thing flies - I have all setting at high (have not tried ultra high yet) and at full res (1400 x 900) have not had one crash or stutter, everything is so smooth and graphics are great!. I was going to wait for EA to buck their ideas up, but gave up, I think it will run better in XP anyhow. The MBP does get hot but have not got a temp monitor in XP - when switching to OSX straight after, the temp was at 69 degrees C.

[Keebler]

i say we email Mr. Jobs and tell him that Ea isn't pulling its weight. i can't imagine he'd want to be in business with a slacker partner. i understand software dev, but no updates is pretty bad business practice. and it's the same for madden 08 - nuttin'!

but <sigh>, it is just a game. guess i'll find other things to do until it comes out :)

[ghall]

i say we email Mr. Jobs and tell him that Ea isn't pulling its weight. i can't imagine he'd want to be in business with a slacker partner. i understand software dev, but no updates is pretty bad business practice. and it's the same for madden 08 - nuttin'!


I'm in! :)

[levitynyc]

Bump

[CrescentEdge]

And just when you thought they had forgotten us...

Link From Apple Games (http://www.apple.com/games/trailers/ea/)

4 of the six games are now available from Apple.com. (See the link at the bottom of the page with the movies.) Not sure if they are in the store yet, as it is too early to call.

Battlefield 2142 - Available Now
Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars - Available Now
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - Available Now
Need For Speed: Carbon - Available Now
Madden NFL 08 - Coming Soon
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 - Coming Soon

Listed System Requirements for Command and Conquer 3:
* Mac OS X v10.4.9 or later
* 1.83GHz or faster Intel Core Duo processor
* 1GB RAM
* 6GB free hard-disk space
* Video card: ATI X1600 series or later; NVIDIA GeForce 7300 or later
* DVD-ROM drive

[icecone]

And just when you thought they had forgotten us...

Link From Apple Games (http://www.apple.com/games/trailers/ea/)

4 of the six games are now available from Apple.com. (See the link at the bottom of the page with the movies.) Not sure if they are in the store yet, as it is too early to call.

Battlefield 2142 - Available Now
Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars - Available Now
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - Available Now
Need For Speed: Carbon - Available Now
Madden NFL 08 - Coming Soon
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 - Coming Soon

Listed System Requirements for Command and Conquer 3:
* Mac OS X v10.4.9 or later
* 1.83GHz or faster Intel Core Duo processor
* 1GB RAM
* 6GB free hard-disk space
* Video card: ATI X1600 series or later; NVIDIA GeForce 7300 or later
* DVD-ROM drive

GREAT!
Waiting for reviews:cool:
Really in Apple store: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=10501E75&nplm=TN642LL/A

[Steve1496]

Fantastic news! Glad EA finally got around to releasing them, I'll definitely be buying Battlefield 2142. Has anyone called their Apple Stores to see if they are in stock at the stores?

Steve

[ezekielrage_99]

The game is coming soon according to Transgaming.

[unknown87]

Anyone know the requirements for Tiger Woods 08?

[jackbenimble4]

I haven't called yet, but I doubt they're in the stores right now. The estimated shipping time is 7-10 business days, which makes me think that they don't have it quite yet. I'll call my apple store next week.

[CrescentEdge]

Fantastic news! Glad EA finally got around to releasing them, I'll definitely be buying Battlefield 2142. Has anyone called their Apple Stores to see if they are in stock at the stores?

Steve

Neither of the stores near me had copies yet, but the manager seemed to think they would be arriving as soon as tomorrow and at the latest next week.

I'll post again if I hear any updates since until I hear a sales rep. tell me he/she has the game in hand, it doesn't exist.

[yetanotherdave]

They don't appear to be on the UK stores yet. Looks like we're being left behind again :mad:

[fblack]

And just when you thought they had forgotten us...

Link From Apple Games (http://www.apple.com/games/trailers/ea/)

4 of the six games are now available from Apple.com. (See the link at the bottom of the page with the movies.) Not sure if they are in the store yet, as it is too early to call.

Battlefield 2142 - Available Now
Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars - Available Now
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix - Available Now
Need For Speed: Carbon - Available Now
Madden NFL 08 - Coming Soon
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 08 - Coming Soon

Then again maybe they're just teasing us, from appleinsider posted yesterday:

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/08/16/ea_backtracking_on_claims_of_simultaneous_mac_game_releases.html

The Mac OS X versions of two brand-new games, Madden NFL 08 and Tiger Woods 08, have been pushed back from their announced August releases to September or October, an EA representative told AppleInsider. The company, however, launched Madden NFL 08 for virtually every other platform on Tuesday.

When pressed for an explanation, the EA spokesperson said there were no definitive reasons available for the delay but alluded to a possible lack of experience with Mac development. This was possibly prompted in part by the company's years-long absence from the platform.

In speaking to AppleInsider, the spokesperson nonetheless claimed that four ports of previously released titles -- Battlefield 2142, Command and Conquer 3, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, and Need for Speed Carbon -- were already available in stores. As of press time, however, EA was unable to provide the name of a single store at which customers could purchase any of the titles.

A brief survey by AppleInsider of Apple's stores, as well as Amazon and several other leading online retailers, revealed that none had the games in stock while only a few outlets were offering pre-orders. Some online retailers known to carry Mac software, including Amazon, made no mention of the Mac version whatsoever while listing available copies for Windows and several video game consoles.

[FreedomFighter]

Hey guys I was looking up the page with command and conquer 3 on it at the apple website and here where the system requirement:

System Requirements
Mac OS X v10.4.9 or later
1.83GHz or faster Intel Core Duo processor
1GB RAM
6GB free hard-disk space
Video card: ATI X1600 series or later; NVIDIA GeForce 7300 or later
DVD-ROM drive

Note: This game does not support the GMA950 integrated graphics card.
Does this mean the game won't run on a mac mini and macbook or that you cannot get customer support from ea using this chipset?

[CrescentEdge]

The more I think about it... the fact that the shipping dates are 7-10 days on the apple store may indeed indicate that the games aren't even ready to be shipped yet.
The apple retail locations are pretty beholden to Apple for any and all information, and it seems they have received very little about these titles.

One rep I spoke with said, "Sometimes we get software before the apple store, sometimes it takes us a month to get shipments."

I guess it's probably not wise to hold one's breath for these games. They'll get here eventually.

Note: This game does not support the GMA950 integrated graphics card.
Does this mean the game won't run on a mac mini and macbook or that you cannot get customer support from ea using this chipset?

Unfortunately that typically means any system with that chipset will not run the game. I am not familiar with which Apple systems have integrated chips, but it looks like, (at least according to the system requirements available) any system with the GMA950 will not run this game. :/

[Eidorian]

Hey guys I was looking up the page with command and conquer 3 on it at the apple website and here where the system requirement:

System Requirements
Mac OS X v10.4.9 or later
1.83GHz or faster Intel Core Duo processor
1GB RAM
6GB free hard-disk space
Video card: ATI X1600 series or later; NVIDIA GeForce 7300 or later
DVD-ROM drive

Note: This game does not support the GMA950 integrated graphics card.
Does this mean the game won't run on a mac mini and macbook or that you cannot get customer support from ea using this chipset?It means that the game won't run on the GMA950 and requires dedicated graphics.

[lag1090]

I've posted some info I received from EA in another thread. I don't really feel like copying it over, so here (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=4062311&posted=1#post4062311) is a link to the other thread.

[fblack]

Hey guys I was looking up the page with command and conquer 3 on it at the apple website and here where the system requirement:

System Requirements
Mac OS X v10.4.9 or later
1.83GHz or faster Intel Core Duo processor
1GB RAM
6GB free hard-disk space
Video card: ATI X1600 series or later; NVIDIA GeForce 7300 or later
DVD-ROM drive

Note: This game does not support the GMA950 integrated graphics card.
Does this mean the game won't run on a mac mini and macbook or that you cannot get customer support from ea using this chipset?

On the pc side EA says that:
Video: GeForce4, ATI Radeon 8500 or greater (ATI Radeon 9200 and 9250 PCI, NVIDIA Geforce 4 MX cards not supported.). Windows Vista - NVIDIA GeForce 6100 or ATI Radeon 9500 or greater. Laptop versions of these chipsets may work but are not supported. (emphasis mine)

Pretty low requirements, (Geforce 4?) but if you've seen C&C3 at low it looks like mud. Even if it can run might not be worth it.

...and EA thanks for the lack of laptop support.:rolleyes:

[CrescentEdge]

As you said, C and C 3 doesn't look great with it's visual settings pulled way down. Still, the lack of laptop support is a bit weak. Then again, I'm not sure what the game would look like on an integrated chipset since I am not familiar with the power of laptop integrated graphics.

The sad thing is after all this wait I'm not all that excited about C and C 3. I played it for a bit with boot camp, and while it's definitely enjoyable, the game is incredibly fast paced, almost too fast paced for my tastes.

I am used to playing Warcraft 3, which is fairly quick, especially compared to games like Sup Com, where some of the "uber' units can take over and hour to build if you don't have a whole lot of workers "assisting." (This cuts the build time down quite a bit, but it still takes a long time for the bigger units to finish.) Anyhow, the point is, C and C 3 plays ridiculously quickly. Buildings and units alike can be churned out like nobodies business and it felt at times like it was difficult to devise a strategy when you had units and buildings popping out left and right.

That said, I am sure once one learns the hotkeys and gets more familiar with the game, it probably doesn't feel quite so overwhelmingly fast. I'm interested to hear what others think once this game hits shelves and people get a chance to try it out.

[fblack]

As you said, C and C 3 doesn't look great with it's visual settings pulled way down. Still, the lack of laptop support is a bit weak. Then again, I'm not sure what the game would look like on an integrated chipset since I am not familiar with the power of laptop integrated graphics.

Really didn't expect it to run on a plain macbook. But I wonder with EAs statement of not supporting laptop chipsets how will this play out for people who have MBP with an X1600? How about the iMacs that use mobility GPUS? I'm just curious how will this affect updates and patches?

On a side note I did run Halo when it first came out on a celeron laptop with integrated graphics. Single player was playable, but multi-player was...horrible. There was no red or blue everyone was just grey, LOL :D

[Chone]

As you said, C and C 3 doesn't look great with it's visual settings pulled way down. Still, the lack of laptop support is a bit weak. Then again, I'm not sure what the game would look like on an integrated chipset since I am not familiar with the power of laptop integrated graphics.

The sad thing is after all this wait I'm not all that excited about C and C 3. I played it for a bit with boot camp, and while it's definitely enjoyable, the game is incredibly fast paced, almost too fast paced for my tastes.

I am used to playing Warcraft 3, which is fairly quick, especially compared to games like Sup Com, where some of the "uber' units can take over and hour to build if you don't have a whole lot of workers "assisting." (This cuts the build time down quite a bit, but it still takes a long time for the bigger units to finish.) Anyhow, the point is, C and C 3 plays ridiculously quickly. Buildings and units alike can be churned out like nobodies business and it felt at times like it was difficult to devise a strategy when you had units and buildings popping out left and right.

That said, I am sure once one learns the hotkeys and gets more familiar with the game, it probably doesn't feel quite so overwhelmingly fast. I'm interested to hear what others think once this game hits shelves and people get a chance to try it out.

I thought CNC3 was a fairly quick game as well but after spending quite some time with it (probably 100+ hours) you learn the ropes of the game and actually, it takes more effort and speed from me to play Warcraft 3 than it does Command & Conquer 3, its not THAT fast as say, Starcraft.

It is an awesome game though.

[pprior]

So will a newer 20" Imac work with this? Not the brand new one, it's about 6 months old.

Son loves C&C.

Also - anyone know if you have to buy 2 copies to play over lan at home?

[fblack]

So will a newer 20" Imac work with this? Not the brand new one, it's about 6 months old.

Son loves C&C.

Also - anyone know if you have to buy 2 copies to play over lan at home?

Aside from my minor grumbling, it really should not be a problem on a X1600 and with a good core duo and 1Gig of ram it should run well. You should be able to run it at or near high quality on 1600x1200. Gamespot has a good hardware overview.
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6168067/p-6.html

Also from Apple store:

System Requirements
Mac OS X v10.4.9 or later
1.83GHz or faster Intel Core Duo processor
1GB RAM
6GB free hard-disk space
Video card: ATI X1600 series or later; NVIDIA GeForce 7300 or later
DVD-ROM drive
Note: This game does not support the GMA950 integrated graphics card.

[MagicBoy]

I'll be interested to see this. The Windows version works very well on Boot Camp with high detail on my MacBook Pro.

The PC version is more graphics card bound than anything else so I can understand the lack of GMA950 support. I did try it on my old desktop PC (P4 2.4, GeForce4) and it looked terrible but played OK - seems to need decent vertex and pixel shaders as it was just as bad with a GeForce 6500. Having changed the graphics card out for a Radeon 9800 it's looks as good as the MBP until you get a lot of units sapping the CPU power then the framerate drops.

Lets hope EA have done a decent job, otherwise they'll have kicked themselves in the foot.

I might pop by one of the Manchester stores tomorrow and ask.

[FreedomFighter]

Has anyone seen Hardware reviews and game performance for the C&C on the new imacs and the mac pro with X1900? I am looking at getting a new comp to replace my imac G5 with ATI radeon 9600 128 Mb Vram.

thanks

[fblack]

Looks like they decided to bring back the exclusive deal with apple after all...

http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/08/17/eaships/index.php

Users can order the games from Apple’s online store today. Need for Speed Carbon and Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix are both going to be available in Apple retail stores beginning Tuesday, August 21, while Battlefield 2142 and Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars will be available a week later, on the 28th.

Customers looking for the games will need to go specifically to Apple’s retail or online stores. The titles aren’t available anywhere else. Apple confirmed to Macworld that the games are exclusive to the Apple stores, at least for the moment.

[CrescentEdge]

Well well well. That's rather frustrating. While it is certainly possible to order from the online store now, all the games have a shipping delay that more or less ends up coinciding with the retail release dates.

So while you can place an online order now, it looks as if doing so won't be any quicker than waiting for the games to make it to retail locations. Both NFS Carbon and Harry Potter have an estimated shipping time of 3-5 days while C and C 3 and Battlefield 2142 are listed as 7-10 days until shipping. Both these delays put the shipping dates in the ballpark of the 21st and 28th respectively.

So unless you don't have a retail outlet near you, or you don't want to make the drive to one, it probably makes more sense to wait for the games to hit shelves if you want a copy asap.

[nathan.gartz]

please delete

[CrescentEdge]

It looks as if the shipping time for Command and Conquer 3 is now 24 hours from the apple store online.

Command and Conquer 3 (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=10501E75&nplm=TN642LL/A)

I will call retail outlets later today and see if they have an ETA on shipments to them.

Update: I just called the apple store near me and the gentleman I spoke with said he had both Command and Conquer 3 and Battlefield 2142 in store and ready to sell.
Update Part 2: I just bought Command and Conquer 3 and Battlefield 2142. I am installing them at this time and will post later about performance etc.

[ilogic]

guys any luck on the best settings, I got 2.0 Core Duo with 2 GB of RAM... any luck with some good settings?

[TargetScope]

I just made a post on Apple's review portion of the site. I have a smoking machine and nothing running - it's a dog. EA should be ashamed as they let down the Mac community. :mad:

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wo/StoreReentry.wo?productLearnMore=TN642LL/A

[Starscream]

aye, just got it in, really excited to play it on my MAC, i load it on and pffft, it blows hard. I have a 1 yr old 15" Macbook Pro with a 2 GHz dual core intel. 1 GB of RAM and an ATI Radeon X1600. This meets and exceeds specifications shown on the box and website and i have to run it at a choppy resolution and turn the graphics down big time for it to run even halfway decent. Whoever the guy at the apple website is that says he ran it on my machine's specs flawlessly is crazy.

[shinji]

I've got a Mac Pro with the x1900 - anyone who also has that try to run this? was it still choppy?

[Krevnik]

I haven't had too many performance issues on my 2.4Ghz MBP with the 8600M chipset. Runs at 1920x1200 pretty well, with shaders and a few other things turned up high.

Granted, I am running Leopard, not Tiger. I am not too surprised Tiger is bottlenecking, actually... C&C3 seems to be a very CPU-intensive game, and OpenGL is also fairly CPU intensive on Tiger.

[pprior]

Just bought the game. Does anyone have a NO-DVD patch for this? I HATE having to put the stupid DVD in each time i play and I also refuse to buy 2 copies for my son and I to play on our own network. The sales clerk at the Mac Store (bought it at retail Apple store) said I would have no problems.

I tried making a disk image using disk utility, but although it will install, it doesn't seem to accept that when trying to play.

I am not trying to pirate, I have a retail box here in my hand along with the installation code, which works fine. I just want to avoid the use of the DVD.

thanks for any prompt reply - my son is totally disappointed we can't play together on our Lan.
:mad:

[Eidorian]

Just bought the game. Does anyone have a NO-DVD patch for this? I HATE having to put the stupid DVD in each time i play and I also refuse to buy 2 copies for my son and I to play on our own network. The sales clerk at the Mac Store (bought it at retail Apple store) said I would have no problems.

I tried making a disk image using disk utility, but although it will install, it doesn't seem to accept that when trying to play.

I am not trying to pirate, I have a retail box here in my hand along with the installation code, which works fine. I just want to avoid the use of the DVD.

thanks for any prompt reply - my son is totally disappointed we can't play together on our Lan.
:mad:I doubt the license lets you do that.

[Krevnik]

Just bought the game. Does anyone have a NO-DVD patch for this? I HATE having to put the stupid DVD in each time i play and I also refuse to buy 2 copies for my son and I to play on our own network. The sales clerk at the Mac Store (bought it at retail Apple store) said I would have no problems.

I tried making a disk image using disk utility, but although it will install, it doesn't seem to accept that when trying to play.

I am not trying to pirate, I have a retail box here in my hand along with the installation code, which works fine. I just want to avoid the use of the DVD.

thanks for any prompt reply - my son is totally disappointed we can't play together on our Lan.
:mad:

The big problem is that EA is using SecuROM (*puke*), and so it looks for the physical drive, unmounts the DVD, and does some reading directly from the drive to verify your copy.

To be honest, I am kinda surprised that Cider lets something like SecuROM work correctly on OS X. And the fact that it actually worked without being a PITA like it is on Windows... (EDIT: Well, except the fact that the C&C3 disc can't be in the second drive if the first one has a disc in it)

[pprior]

I noticed the DVD disappeared from my desktop. I tried eject via keyboard and even via a terminal command and couldn't get the disk to pop out.

somebody must have fixed this :)