View Full Version : Mac OS X 10.4.11 In the Works?
WildCowboy
Jul 31, 2007, 04:33 PM
No details are given, but TS is reporting that 10.4.11 is in the works. No huge surprise here, given that we're still several months away from Leopard.
Linky (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0707macosx10411.html)
Eidorian
Jul 31, 2007, 04:35 PM
Time to check the hardware model strings when that launches...
yellow
Jul 31, 2007, 04:48 PM
I find it amusing that ARD still says that all our boxes are running 10.4.9.
theBB
Jul 31, 2007, 04:50 PM
After reading about USB external disk mounting problems, I have skipped 10.4.10. "If it ain't broken..." motto coming back to me.
This is coming from ThinkSecret and 10.4.11 is going to arrive sooner or later, so this could easily be a speculation rather than a rumor.
Kashchei
Jul 31, 2007, 04:59 PM
Perhaps the update correcting the issues with airport and MacBooks is what they took to be 10.4.11. Just a thought.
MacRumors
Jul 31, 2007, 05:03 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com)
ThinkSecret briefly claims (http://www.thinksecret.com/news/0707macosx10411.html) that Apple will released another Tiger (10.4) update:
Apple is preparing to release another update to Tiger ahead of Leopard's release, Think Secret has learned, although details of the Mac OS X 10.4.11 update are otherwise scarce at the moment.
Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/07/31/mac-os-x-10-4-11-in-the-works/)
mackensteff
Jul 31, 2007, 05:09 PM
Wouldn't it be 10.4.10.1
thejadedmonkey
Jul 31, 2007, 05:13 PM
Usually they release one last update before the next OS comes out, for compatibility I think, so this makes sense.. and dang does OS X need it, too! The OS (at least for me) feels like with each update it gets less and less stable
Eraserhead
Jul 31, 2007, 05:15 PM
Wouldn't it be 10.4.10.1
No, they'll release 10.4.11 just before 10.5 IMO like with the previous few releases.
Peace
Jul 31, 2007, 05:16 PM
If this is true I KNOW new hardware is coming soon.
Yankees 4 Life
Jul 31, 2007, 05:29 PM
If this is true I KNOW new hardware is coming soon.
agreed, lets hope its new iMacs.... hurry up already apple!!
iJawn108
Jul 31, 2007, 05:46 PM
I wouldn't doubt a 10.4.12
iBunny
Jul 31, 2007, 05:46 PM
I beleive that 10.4.11 will come out. Right now what is the bigest thing we lacking with 10.4.10?
I think its new Video Card Drives
Im sure they can fit 1 more update to 10.4.10
WildCowboy
Jul 31, 2007, 05:50 PM
AppleInsider (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/07/31/apple_set_to_begin_testing_mac_os_x_10_4_11_update.html) also has an article up with a few more thoughts on 10.4.11.
dmw007
Jul 31, 2007, 05:59 PM
Usually they release one last update before the next OS comes out, for compatibility I think, so this makes sense.. and dang does OS X need it, too! The OS (at least for me) feels like with each update it gets less and less stable
Really? I have not had a problem with any of my Macs regardless of the version of Tiger that they were running.
TheNumberOneFan
Jul 31, 2007, 06:04 PM
why does there always have to be negative ratings...
i've never seen a piece of news that has gotten zero negative ratings
how "bad" can news/rumors be that are about apple, apple is great! :apple:
haha...
~Shard~
Jul 31, 2007, 06:05 PM
Reading between the lines, to me this means new Macs very soon, hence why another OS update is required... :cool:
mambodancer
Jul 31, 2007, 06:11 PM
agreed, lets hope its new iMacs.... hurry up already apple!!
I'm betting gesture support ahead of 10.5 in the new iMacs and Displays.
dmw007
Jul 31, 2007, 06:25 PM
Reading between the lines, to me this means new Macs very soon, hence why another OS update is required... :cool:
Redesigned iMacs would be nice and the Mac Mini is long over due for an internal overhaul. :apple:
Eidorian
Jul 31, 2007, 06:26 PM
Redesigned iMacs would be nice and the Mac Mini is long over due for an internal overhaul. :apple:Mini-ITX Santa Rosa boards are already being seen.
Rocketman
Jul 31, 2007, 06:26 PM
Wouldn't it be 10.4.10.1
I am waiting for 10.4.13.0
Rocketman
seclusion
Jul 31, 2007, 06:38 PM
Will they not update Tiger after Leopard is released?
:rolleyes:
twoboxen
Jul 31, 2007, 06:38 PM
How about fixing their wireless drivers that kernel panic when on batteries with certain non-apple brands of routers?
Hopefully they actually do some thorough testing on this one.
MrSmith
Jul 31, 2007, 06:38 PM
Bagsy I get to say "this version goes all the way to 11".
Darkroom
Jul 31, 2007, 06:45 PM
i realllly hope this means new mac minis soon, or at least something to replace the mini... i've been trying to convince my best friend since 2 years to buy a mac... 2 years! but now he is SO CLOSE to buying a replacement PC for his wall mounted LCD... sacrilege!!!!
WildCowboy
Jul 31, 2007, 06:48 PM
Will they not update Tiger after Leopard is released?
:rolleyes:
They'll give it security patches for a while, but don't expect to see any additional point releases once Leopard is out.
dmw007
Jul 31, 2007, 06:52 PM
Mini-ITX Santa Rosa boards are already being seen.
Well then, lets hope that they make their way into the Mac Mini, and soon. :)
hollywoodmacguy
Jul 31, 2007, 06:56 PM
I'm betting gesture support ahead of 10.5 in the new iMacs and Displays.
I really hope you're right. Just so that I'm clear, when you say new... Displays", you are talking about Cinema Displays correct? I have been *extremely* eager for new ACDs and there has not been a glimmer of new information on that front in a dog's age...
Eidorian
Jul 31, 2007, 06:58 PM
Well then, lets hope that they make their way into the Mac Mini, and soon. :)http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/12963
MacsRgr8
Jul 31, 2007, 07:02 PM
No!!!
Jaguar - max 10.2.8
Panther - max 10.3.9
Tiger - max 10.4.10!!
:D
Eric5h5
Jul 31, 2007, 07:03 PM
Wouldn't it be 10.4.10.1
Um, no, that makes no sense. The number that comes after "10" is "11". 10.4.10.1 would imply a minor update for 10.4.10, something that Apple generally does not distribute. (Though there was that one incident with, what was it, 10.2.8? Even then I'm not sure if they renamed the fixed version, maybe because they have enough dots already. ;) )
--Eric
dmw007
Jul 31, 2007, 07:05 PM
http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/12963
Thanks for the link, C2D and GMA X3100 would be welcome additions. :)
theman
Jul 31, 2007, 07:06 PM
ha, its going to be 10.4.:( before they release leopard....
dmw007
Jul 31, 2007, 07:20 PM
ha, its going to be 10.4.:( before they release leopard....
Relax friend, October will be here shortly. :)
cube
Jul 31, 2007, 07:25 PM
YES! An audio-safe upgrade for those waiting at 10.4.9!
sblasl
Jul 31, 2007, 07:26 PM
Apple can release new hardware without a new OS version. The Build # is what would differentiate the support for new hardware.
The latest release has really had some major problems that still exist with USB audio, even after Apple attempted to resolve the problem. There are other problems that still exist if you follow the postings on MacFixIt.com.
This release will be intended to stabilize Tiger once and for all, once Leopard is released there will only be security updates.
This is in no way an indication of new hardware.
mambodancer
Jul 31, 2007, 07:37 PM
I really hope you're right. Just so that I'm clear, when you say new... Displays", you are talking about Cinema Displays correct? I have been *extremely* eager for new ACDs and there has not been a glimmer of new information on that front in a dog's age...
Yep. I think the new Cinema displays will have touch screen, gesture support built in. I think this will be an interim update until 10.5 is released and I'm holding out that the really secret aspects of 10.5 are iPhone-like gestural support.
shawnce
Jul 31, 2007, 07:50 PM
No!!!
Jaguar - max 10.2.8
Panther - max 10.3.9
Tiger - max 10.4.10!!
:D No no... 10.4 GOES TO ELEVEN!
vohdoun
Jul 31, 2007, 08:07 PM
I beleive that 10.4.11 will come out. Right now what is the bigest thing we lacking with 10.4.10?
I think its new Video Card Driver*s
Im sure they can fit 1 more update to 10.4.10
Has anyone encountered such an issue with this? http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=221104&tstart=30
Which seems to be a very well known problem and has never been fixed.
ghall
Jul 31, 2007, 08:07 PM
But...but....according to the rules of decimals, this update will take us 9.9 versions backwards. :eek:
vohdoun
Jul 31, 2007, 08:15 PM
Also how and where do you report problems to Apple, as I see no contact area on their site. Just feedback for their site.
How do you contact them to get issues/problems sorted before the next update hits...?
Azurael
Jul 31, 2007, 08:26 PM
They'd better do; 10.4.10 broke the following on the Macs around here:
Disk Image Mounting with many .dmg files known to work prior to .10 (C2D iMac, Mac Pro, PowerBook G4 12", PowerBook G4 15")
Recognition of video DVDs (C2D iMac, PowerBook G4 15" - they both have Panasonic UJ-846s...)
USB mass storage devices have become extremely flaky (Intel iMac, Mac Pro)
Occasional wireless drop-outs (C2D iMac)
Happy? No, I am not. Sort it out, :apple:
niele
Jul 31, 2007, 08:30 PM
After reading about USB external disk mounting problems, I have skipped 10.4.10. "If it ain't broken..." motto coming back to me.
This is coming from ThinkSecret and 10.4.11 is going to arrive sooner or later, so this could easily be a speculation rather than a rumor.
i like your way of thinking theBB - i'm skipping it also :D
MacTCP
Jul 31, 2007, 08:44 PM
10.4 definitely seems like it will need one more update. 10.4.11 sounds good, but something like 10.4.10.1 sounds too long to me.
Azzurri15
Jul 31, 2007, 08:46 PM
How often does apple update their OS. When was Tiger released?
Rocketman
Jul 31, 2007, 08:52 PM
To me, this is nothing but good news. 10.4 will be updated more than it otherwise would have been if the iPhone development had not been slightly over schedule. That is a "good thing" (for older platforms). iPhone update is well expected and while not overdue, required BEFORE the "new iPod" release if nothing else to keep iTunes software updates less complicated. Expect an iTunes minor update within the next 30 days.
This raises a MAJOR point. Apple makes minor and major software updates on a vastly widespread platform basis (PPC/Intel/Universal/User/Server) OFTEN and seamlessly as compared to Microsoft. Apple has superceeded MS in terms of software updates.
I declare it.
Rocketman
AppleTV/iPhone/Airport Express/RAID/...
toddbee
Jul 31, 2007, 09:05 PM
i get disconnect problems from my wifi now that i didnt get before.
shawnce
Jul 31, 2007, 10:45 PM
How often does apple update their OS. When was Tiger released?
They release major updates on 2 to 3 year basis these days (in the recient past they did it around 1 to 1.5 years). They release point releases every few months depending on need. They release security updates often as needed.
For the fun of it follow the Mac OS X line on the following page...
http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html#13
Peace
Jul 31, 2007, 10:46 PM
Also how and where do you report problems to Apple, as I see no contact area on their site. Just feedback for their site.
How do you contact them to get issues/problems sorted before the next update hits...?
If you wish to report any bugs to Apple you would need to get an ADC (http://developer.apple.com/)membership.You can get a free one.The one that doesnt give you any beta stuff or discounts.Then you would need to go to the bug report site (http://bugreport.apple.com)
shawnce
Jul 31, 2007, 10:49 PM
If you wish to report any bugs to Apple you would need to get an ADC (http://developer.apple.com/)membership.You can get a free one.The one that doesnt give you any beta stuff or discounts.Then you would need to go to the bug report site (http://bugreport.apple.com)
You don't need to get an ADC membership to report bugs. You can use their feedback site to report issues (most have a "bug" option).
http://www.apple.com/feedback/
If you want to track status of the bug an ADC account allows for that (in a limited fashion).
Peace
Jul 31, 2007, 10:55 PM
I agree shawnce .I'm so used to using Radar that was my first thought.
RadarWeb also allows you to send more specific info about a bug.
ClimbingTheLog
Jul 31, 2007, 11:02 PM
If Apple wasn't going to release a 10.4.11 with Leopard-compatibility stuff (see 10.3.9) in it, *that* would be an interesting rumor. This one is "stuff everybody already assumed was true".
corywoolf
Aug 1, 2007, 12:00 AM
The update is probably more for the benefit of Leopard users. It will probably smooth things out so that Leopard can talk to Tiger easier and maybe some of the features such as screen sharing are going to be involved in the update.
Platform
Aug 1, 2007, 12:04 AM
It is needed, the Finder keep hogging my CPU after a few days of uptime if I try to relaunch it quits but does not start up again until I force a re-boot :mad:
twoodcc
Aug 1, 2007, 12:42 AM
i'm not surprised by this, considering Leopard is still a good ways away
Evangelion
Aug 1, 2007, 02:19 AM
i realllly hope this means new mac minis soon, or at least something to replace the mini... i've been trying to convince my best friend since 2 years to buy a mac... 2 years! but now he is SO CLOSE to buying a replacement PC for his wall mounted LCD... sacrilege!!!!
What does it matter that does your friend buy a Mac or not? If he prefers or needs a PC, that's his choice. Remember folks: Whenever you convince someone to do something, you are then in a way responsible for that decision. If the Mac didn't work out for him, he could start complaining that "it was you who convinced me to buy this junk! Thanks a lot dude!"
dernhelm
Aug 1, 2007, 08:42 AM
Will they not update Tiger after Leopard is released?
:rolleyes:
Of course they will. I'm guess 10.4.15 as the last Tiger release sometime in 2009...
ilogic
Aug 1, 2007, 09:25 AM
Um, no, that makes no sense. The number that comes after "10" is "11". 10.4.10.1 would imply a minor update for 10.4.10, something that Apple generally does not distribute. (Though there was that one incident with, what was it, 10.2.8? Even then I'm not sure if they renamed the fixed version, maybe because they have enough dots already. ;) )
--Eric
so 10.4.10 means the 10th version of Mac OS, the 4th release?, the 10th patch?
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