iWork '08 with Spreadsheet? [Archive]

MacRumors

Aug 6, 2007, 07:44 PM

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9to5mac believes (http://9to5mac.com/iwork-update-august-7th-spreadsheets-54235423) that iWork '08 will be arriving tomorrow which includes the long awaited Spreadsheet application.

Apple has reportedly been working on a spreadsheet application (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/01/05/iwork-07-with-spreadsheet-screenshot/) for some time.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/08/06/iwork-08-with-spreadsheet/)

xUKHCx

Aug 6, 2007, 07:47 PM

Will i don't believe that the spreadsheet application will be that great ala Pages 1.0, it'll be a start and hopefully in a few years time it will be good ala Keynote (whatever version it is now, 3?). I will use the program with an open mind though, don't want to knock it before i've tried it (even though i quite clearly have done so)

monke

Aug 6, 2007, 07:48 PM

C'mon now.

There's absolutely no way new iPod's, iPod Nano's, iMac's, .Mac, and an entire iWork suite are all going to be announced the same day. :rolleyes:

twoodcc

Aug 6, 2007, 07:57 PM

C'mon now.

There's absolutely no way new iPod's, iPod Nano's, iMac's, .Mac, and an entire iWork suite are all going to be announced the same day. :rolleyes:

we can hope :)

and what about iLife?

and besides, the new ipods aren't coming tomorrow

IJ Reilly

Aug 6, 2007, 08:01 PM

No iPods tomorrow (possessive, contraction, or other otherwise). We have much better reason to expect iMacs and an upgrade to .Mac. The major iWork update seems like a real long-shot.

mrparet

Aug 6, 2007, 08:19 PM

C'mon now.

There's absolutely no way new iPod's, iPod Nano's, iMac's, .Mac, and an entire iWork suite are all going to be announced the same day. :rolleyes:

No one pays attention anymore do they? If you had been paying attention, you would have read that Apple stated this is a Mac ONLY event. They clearly said to the invitees that this event will not be iPhone or iPod related. So, the list becomes: iMac (almost certainly), updated .Mac (hopefully), and new iApps (I hope!).

That's manageable.

thesdx

Aug 6, 2007, 08:20 PM

C'mon now.

There's absolutely no way new iPod's, iPod Nano's, iMac's, .Mac, and an entire iWork suite are all going to be announced the same day. :rolleyes:

Tomorrow is a Mac-only event. They will have room for everything. Here's what I think they will announce:

New iMacs
New iLife
New iWork
New .Mac
Something else (Sub-notebook?)
Announce the exact release date of Leopard

(This list isn't in any particular order)

plumbingandtech

Aug 6, 2007, 08:20 PM

C'mon now.

There's absolutely no way new iPod's, iPod Nano's, iMac's, .Mac, and an entire iWork suite are all going to be announced the same day. :rolleyes:

Who said iPods could be released tomorrow?

Not apple. They already said it was a MAC ONLY event.

BenRoethig

Aug 6, 2007, 08:28 PM

If this update brings a spreadsheet application and a traditional word processing mode to Pages, I'll be very happy

XnavxeMiyyep

Aug 6, 2007, 08:28 PM

There is already a program called Tables (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/30513) that's pretty good and just plain pretty. Maybe Apple will buy their product and integrate it with the rest of iWork suite.

IJ Reilly

Aug 6, 2007, 08:55 PM

If this update brings a spreadsheet application and a traditional word processing mode to Pages, I'll be very happy

What is a "traditional word processing mode?"

Zwhaler

Aug 6, 2007, 09:34 PM

What about Leopard? It seems like Apple would release iWork alongside Leopard, not 2 months before.

iToaster

Aug 6, 2007, 09:37 PM

An iWork update would be nice, especially Pages (I need to make a button). IMacs would be nice, though I prolly wouldn't buy one (need a laptop/portable). The return of the 12" would be great (might buy that eventually). And iPods are actually possible, if anyone remembers Steve saying they were working on iPods running OS X so it could technically be qualified as a Mac, it's a possibility (maybe a "one more thing..." deal).

iJawn108

Aug 6, 2007, 09:41 PM

Isn't it suppose to be called lasso?

Angsty

Aug 6, 2007, 10:00 PM

Well, if the presentation application of iWork is called "Keynote" and the word-processing application is called "Pages",

will the spreadsheet application be called "Columns"? :p

macintel4me

Aug 6, 2007, 10:20 PM

I hoping that the spreadsheet, Pages and Keynote will have a .mac and iPhone counterpart. Much like google docs, but integrated with the Mac. Yeah, and an iPhone version instead of having Word and Excel on my phone.

Back in 2001, I never understood why Apple decided to push their own Web browser, Safari. Now it is clear. Apple wants to control all software platform levels so they can leverage that on "post-PC" devices. For example, Apple doesn't want to be in a position where it's dependent on Microsoft for coming out with Internet Explorer for the iPhone or something. This is true with iLife and Office (iWork) platforms too. Fun stuff is ahead!!

BlakTornado

Aug 6, 2007, 10:24 PM

New iLife
New iWork

I don't think so. They seem more like they should be released WITH Leopard to take advantage of the new OS, rather than to use one that's about to be replaced soon (Tiger).

But I don't know... it just seems more likely to release iLife with Leopard considering that iLife is bundled with every new Mac...

boss1

Aug 6, 2007, 11:22 PM

Why do I get the feeling that even though Apple stated this will be a Mac only event, people will somehow still find themselves upset tomorrow on the news of no new iPod / iPhone news. :rolleyes:

shemp9999

Aug 7, 2007, 12:23 AM

I'd almost kill for an appleworks replacement.

mambodancer

Aug 7, 2007, 12:34 AM

I don't think so. They seem more like they should be released WITH Leopard to take advantage of the new OS, rather than to use one that's about to be replaced soon (Tiger).

But I don't know... it just seems more likely to release iLife with Leopard considering that iLife is bundled with every new Mac...

It has already been mentioned in another thread elsewhere that iLife '08 went Golden. There has never been a version of iLife that has been released that required you to upgrade to a new OS if you were running the current OS X. For instance, iLife '06 was compatible with both 10.3.9 and 10.4.x. It did not require you to upgrade to 10.4. It is extremely unlikely that the next version of iLife would not be compatible with 10.4. There may be features that aren't implemented unless you are running 10.5 but Apples software has usually been at least one older OSX downward compatible. This would be a first if true IMO.

Analog Kid

Aug 7, 2007, 01:01 AM

It has already been mentioned in another thread elsewhere that iLife '08 went Golden. There has never been a version of iLife that has been released that required you to upgrade to a new OS if you were running the current OS X. For instance, iLife '06 was compatible with both 10.3.9 and 10.4.x. It did not require you to upgrade to 10.4. It is extremely unlikely that the next version of iLife would not be compatible with 10.4. There may be features that aren't implemented unless you are running 10.5 but Apples software has usually been at least one older OSX downward compatible. This would be a first if true IMO.
It's also not impossible that there's compatibility libraries for running any needed Leopard features in Tiger.

filman408

Aug 7, 2007, 02:22 AM

No iLife tomorrow. Atleast one iApp isnt even done yet. The developers present it to Steve soon.

Snowy_River

Aug 7, 2007, 02:32 AM

offwidafairies

Aug 7, 2007, 03:52 AM

New iMacs
New iLife
New iWork
New .Mac
Something else (Sub-notebook?)
Announce the exact release date of Leopard

I hope There is a sub-notebook and I hope Leopard is October 1st (the wait has been long and excruciating enough)
And I hope new iLife and new .Mac
HERE's TO HOPE :)

inkswamp

Aug 7, 2007, 04:13 AM

I doubt this will be Mac-only in the sense that only Macs will be discussed. The sales and financial bit has always been a part of Steve Jobs' presentations and it's likely he'll start off with a summary of sales and market share for iTunes, iPod, iPhone, :apple:TV, Pippin, etc.

As far as product announcements, that will be the Mac-only part. And that makes me very :)

Analog Kid

Aug 7, 2007, 04:53 AM

Just struck me that iWork/iLife may be introduced, but not ship until Leopard...

Jimmni

Aug 7, 2007, 05:15 AM

I see no reason why they need to wait until Leopard for iLife and iWork. It would make a lot more sense to make them compatible with Tiger - most of their sales will be to Tiger users. They'll sell iLife to three groups of people:

Those who buy new Macs with Leopard and iLife included
Those who upgrade quickly to Leopard (not a huge amount at first)
Those who stick with Tiger a while (the biggest section)

We're all obsessive and will be buying Leopard as soon as it's out, but many, many Mac users won't. Every time Steve says in a keynote how so-and-so percentage of users are now on Tiger, or now on OS X, I'm always surprised by how low the number is, or how long it's taken to get there.

Leopard only iLife and iWork would be a bad idea. They'd not only miss the back to school sales, they'd limit their customer base A LOT. Maybe extra features for Leopard users, though. That would be cool.

Lesser Evets

Aug 7, 2007, 08:57 AM

Just struck me that iWork/iLife may be introduced, but not ship until Leopard...

Most people are forgetting this. What will be announced today will probably not ship until September or beyond. Much of what is announced might be a marketing primer to get people ready to buy when OSX 10.5 is released: iLife, iWork, iMac, etc.

They could announce new iPods, but I bet this will focus on the iMac and how it works with new software features and possibly new input, increased speed, and the design.

R.Youden

Aug 7, 2007, 09:17 AM

I think they will announce iLife and iWork updates to ship with Leopard.

One reason may be the number of people who don't appear to be wanting to rush out and buy Leopard, most people are not seeing the huge advantage. ow if they integrate everything into one big package then it may prove an incentive to some users.

Maybe buy Leopard and iWork, get iLife free?

DavidLeblond

Aug 7, 2007, 09:28 AM

Have they ever announced an iLife update to be available a month later? Not that I can think of. Why would they? What would be the advantage of buying it at the same time as Leopard? Also if they release a new iMac today, wouldn't it make more sense to say it comes with the new iLife, not "you can buy the new iMac today, and it comes with iLife '06 that is going to be obsolete in about a month!" Yeah, thats real bright. :rolleyes:

If they announce iLife '0x today, it will be available today.

vandlism

Aug 7, 2007, 09:52 AM

Have they ever announced an iLife update to be available a month later?

When they announced iLife at MacWorld '04, it wasn't available until late in the month. So that wait was a few weeks long.

bbyrdhouse

Aug 7, 2007, 10:07 AM

I am so ready for an iWork update. I am a huge iWork user (mostly Pages) and have been looking for an update for some time now.

I would also like to see an iLife update as well. And maybe a definite "Leopard will be available on (a specific date)" rather than "sometime" in October.

On a side note I am also eagerly awaiting the beta release of Pixelmater

Lesser Evets

Aug 7, 2007, 10:10 AM

When they announced iLife at MacWorld '04, it wasn't available until late in the month. So that wait was a few weeks long.

Exactly.

As if Apple never releases software long after they announce is. :rolleyes: *coughOSXcough* Waiting for Leopard takes the cake, though.

JFreak

Aug 7, 2007, 10:17 AM

There is already a program called Tables (http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/30513) that's pretty good and just plain pretty.

Yep, Tables is almost usable. If only it had a live-updating sum function on the status bar like Excel does — a huge missing feature for me at least.

imac/cheese

Aug 7, 2007, 10:48 AM

I am greatly looking forward to seeing what Apple comes up with in terms of a spreadsheet. I don't really want to buy Office again. Only a few more hours!

Headrush69

Aug 7, 2007, 11:25 AM

What is a "traditional word processing mode?"
I'm pretty sure you know he means ala MS Word. :)

Even though I believe for a larger percentage of the home user page layout is more applicable.
"Traditional" word processing apps have morphed towards this approach to appear to be page layout oriented.

scottlinux

Aug 7, 2007, 01:03 PM

Wow all the rumors are flying. While we're at it,

The new iCar is going to be released (by BMW)

A Powerbook G6 (using IBM's new CPU)

And Apple announcing they are switching to the Linux kernel

mixel

Aug 7, 2007, 08:33 PM

Weird, I was just looking at the iwork 08 page..

Funny looking at a "?" rumor *after* having been to the product's page. :)

http://www.apple.com/iwork/numbers/

steamboat26

Aug 7, 2007, 11:06 PM

Alright, no more MS Office for me :cool:

ghall

Aug 8, 2007, 01:09 AM

Alright, no more MS Office for me :cool:

I said that long ago when I switched to NeoOffice. For me, it's now no more NeoOffice. :D

Apple hit the nail on the head with this iWork update. I love it, and I've been playing around with the demo. I'm trying to convince my mom that I need it for school. :)

I love Numbers though. Could have used it on a dozen different school projects where we had to make spreadsheets. Well, I'm ready to impress this year. I'll have the best spreadsheets in class!

xUKHCx

Aug 8, 2007, 07:46 AM

I said that long ago when I switched to NeoOffice. For me, it's now no more NeoOffice. :D

Apple hit the nail on the head with this iWork update. I love it, and I've been playing around with the demo. I'm trying to convince my mom that I need it for school. :)

I love Numbers though. Could have used it on a dozen different school projects where we had to make spreadsheets. Well, I'm ready to impress this year. I'll have the best spreadsheets in class!

Not sure if i can give up MS Office just yet, will be getting iWork to test but the Office will be around on my computer for years to come but it use may/hopefully be reduced. WIll have to put Numbers through its paces first. I'm liking the update to pages but i need to track changes between a document and the other person will be using word so i think itll jst be easier to use word and i'm not sure if the track changes will work between converting to .doc and back again.

Edit: Ok i just tried it out and i'm impressed tracking changes works between .pages and .doc and back again. Comments also works,

maestrokev

Aug 11, 2007, 02:27 AM

Not sure if i can give up MS Office just yet, will be getting iWork to test but the Office will be around on my computer for years to come but it use may/hopefully be reduced. WIll have to put Numbers through its paces first. I'm liking the update to pages but i need to track changes between a document and the other person will be using word so i think itll jst be easier to use word and i'm not sure if the track changes will work between converting to .doc and back again.

Edit: Ok i just tried it out and i'm impressed tracking changes works between .pages and .doc and back again. Comments also works,

Yeah, that's my main concern. What's the interoperability between iWork and MS Office as most people who work for big companies are still on Windows platform. Until the other 95% convert I need any work I create in Pages or Numbers to convert seamlessly to doc/xls format.