iMac assembled in China?

[montycat]

Hi all, I am looking forward to getting my first Apple computer. I thought they were made here in California. A friend told me that they were made in China. I'm just curious about this. MC

[Blue Velvet]

Designed in California, some parts made all over the place, assembled in China. Also Ireland too.

[Dont Hurt Me]

I miss those california made Macs. Apples quality has gone downhill since the China move.

[waltchan]

I miss those california made Macs. Apples quality has gone downhill since the China move.
I bought my REV B iMac G5 on May 2005, and it was assembled in USA. I think this was the last US-made iMac. I haven't seen a US-made iMac anymore. But I already sold it and no longer have it.

[bleufire]

My new iMac just got shipped from Shanghai yesterday! :D

[KhaKha]

US-made is not affordable anymore ,
but China cost us trouble in their quality control....:mad:

[icecone]

They're made in China.
It shouldn't be a problem as many products are made in china now, but the apple's quality control is really really poor:mad:

[aliquis-]

Hi all, I am looking forward to getting my first Apple computer. I thought they were made here in California. A friend told me that they were made in China. I'm just curious about this. MCDon't worry, everyone knows asian cars are better than american, why would computers be any different?

*ducks*

[aliquis-]

US-made is not affordable anymore ,
but China cost us trouble in their quality control....:mad:What quality control? :D

Back in the days I read somewhere that macs where tested like 48 hours or something where PCs where tested for .. uhm.. shorter time ;D, and that that was the reason macs where more reliable. I guess those days are gone.

[headhammer]

They're made in China.
It shouldn't be a problem as many products are made in china now, but the apple's quality control is really really poor:mad:

from where are you drawing the basis of this statement?

i work at the store for the apple reseller in australia that gets more ipods returned to it than any other single location anywhere in australia. this means that we get ipods back from sales that were made from other stores in our company, and other companies altogether.

the total of what we get back is less than 2% of the ipods that we sell.

not bad for product made by a company whose quality control is really poor.

i know that i'm just talking ipods in this example, but we also sell their computers, and there is no evidence to suggest anything other than you having had a bad experience.
so move on. :cool:

back on topic, yes, they are assembled in china.
but they're designed very carefully and with great effort in california, by people of all nationalities. which is why they're so great.

[rainydays]

It shouldn't be a problem as many products are made in china now, but the apple's quality control is really really poor:mad:

Pretty much any consumer electronics company today have poor quality control. It's sad but true. And I don't think it will get much better.
Perhaps if the advancement of technology finally slows down soon they will be able to focus on other things.

It would be interesting to compare failure rates between computer manufacturers. I don't think Apple is anywhere near the worst one, but they are certainly not the best. Especially since they don't "play safe" in their hardware design.

[psingh01]

Don't worry, everyone knows asian cars are better than american, why would computers be any different?

*ducks*

.....you ever seen chinese car crash test results? :eek:

[icecone]

Where the products are made doesn't really matter.
IBM's thinkpads are made in China, and they're considered best built. (I've one and I've encountered no problems except of course, the operating system, for 3 years)
So why do macbook (pro)s have so many problems? lid, keyboard keys, screens....etc
At a 50% defect rate
Only because no one is monitoring them.
Just imagine if apple checks all(or 10%) their products because they are sold, will this occur?

[aliquis-]

.....you ever seen chinese car crash test results? :eek:Uhm? Doesn't they use bikes? :D

I meant japanese, I know macs aren't japanese, because if they where they would rule, that's why I said asian ;D

[vendettabass]

Made in China, designed by team led by Brit (in California)

:D

[shecky]

At a 50% defect rate


exactly where do you get this number from?

[icecone]

exactly where do you get this number from?
here
28 perfect and 28 defected macbook pro
http://forums.macrumors.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=1667

[PlaceofDis]

here
28 perfect and 28 defected macbook pro
http://forums.macrumors.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=1667

because a forum poll is 100% accurate.

[icecone]

because a forum poll is 100% accurate.

Never.
Perhaps some people just come to Macrumors because of the defects
But it can still be used as a reference
(sorry for referring to mb(p) in iMac forum)

[shecky]

here
28 perfect and 28 defected macbook pro
http://forums.macrumors.com/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=1667

those are not accurate by any stretch of the imagination, its an anecdotal poll on a mac forum, which has been well established to have mostly people who are unhappy as opposed to happy.

why don't you go out, do some real research, and come back when you are done pulling stuff out of your butt.

[lofight]

look at my signature, Designed by Apple in California Assembled in China.

[mkrishnan]

I bought my REV B iMac G5 on May 2005, and it was assembled in USA. I think this was the last US-made iMac. I haven't seen a US-made iMac anymore. But I already sold it and no longer have it.

My Rev B was built in Shanghai for what it's worth... my iBook G4 (and the iBook G4 has probably the most solid quality reputation for an Apple computer made since the G3 era) was made in Taiwan.

It's important too to differentiate manufacturing flaws (e.g. the thermal paste debacle) from design flaws. It doesn't matter who you give the bandy or the speckled MBP displays to -- they're still going to be banded or speckled. They'll still be banded or speckled if you pay a team of neurosurgeons $500 an hour to assemble your Mac.

[bigandy]

I have no real issue with any of the Apple products I've had in terms of build quality. Since I switched, I've had experience of the following (all assembled in China):


iBook G3*
iBook G4
PowerBook G4 Titanium
PowerBook G4 Aluminium*
PowerMac G4 Digital Audio
PowerMac G4 MDD
PowerMac G5 Dual Core 2.0
PowerMac G5 Dual 2.7
PowerMac G5 Quad 2.5
Mac Pro 2.66
MacBook Pro 15" C2D 2.16*
Mac mini G4 (three of them)
Mac mini Core Solo*
Mac mini Core Duo


I've only owned four of the above (marked *), but the others, I've had regular (as in working with all the time, almost daily each week for the last few years) contact with. Only one has had serious issues that weren't my or a friends' fault. The G5 DC 2.0 had processor issues. But that's nowt to do with where it was built - the processor was boned.

[elfjuice]

Sorry to raise an old thread from the dead, but is Apple currently assembling the iMacs in California?

I recently ordered a new 24" iMac with an upgraded hard drive and the FedEx tracker shows it leaving from Sacramento.

Anyone with an educated guess? :confused:

[mkrishnan]

I recently ordered a new 24" iMac with an upgraded hard drive and the FedEx tracker shows it leaving from Sacramento.

Besides the possibility that it was assembled there, it's also fairly likely that it's just a depot where common configurations are stockpiled (having been made in China), and yours happened to be common enough that they could fulfill it most quickly and cheaply from that site. Definitely run the coconut utility on it to find out, and report back, though!

[CanadaRAM]

Yeah. No effin way.
Your machine may have been shipped from stock California, and might *possibly* have had RAM or hard drive added to it if it were a CTO configuration. But even most CTO machines are assembled and ship from China.

[Leon Kowalski]

US-made is not affordable anymore ,
but China cost us trouble in their quality control.

Quality is a management responsibility. So, no matter where they're
assembled, 100% of the blame for poor quality resides in Cupertino.

It's pure racism to blame $0.50 per hour production workers for the
failures of 6-figure-salary corporate executives, and 9-figure CEOs.

LK

[4DThinker]

From the label on my iMac box:

Designed by Apple in California
<address>
Computer Assembled in USA.
Other Items as Marked Thereon.

It may be old stock, but it was bought new about 2 weeks ago.

[shrtmkr]

I purchased 2 20" iMacs for work this month and one of them died in just 3 days(HDD). So we could say it is %50:D I had to bring the huge box to the store, you know it's a tough thing to do in NYC :)
And also i am on my 3rd MBA.

Apple's QC is definitely one of the worst in the industry.

[BlackMax]

Don't worry, everyone knows asian cars are better than american, why would computers be any different?

*ducks*

Correction... Japanese cars are better than American. :cool:

I still have an Apple ][ GS that many of its parts (keyboard, mouse, etc) say "Made in Japan" on them.

[Fonzijr1964]

Don't worry, everyone knows asian cars are better than american, why would computers be any different?

*ducks*
Ok they suck. Chines cars are like tin cans. And Jap cars are cheep. Buy a real car made in America or germany or definitely Italy
What quality control? :D

Back in the days I read somewhere that macs where tested like 48 hours or something where PCs where tested for .. uhm.. shorter time ;D, and that that was the reason macs where more reliable. I guess those days are gone.
i heard that too
Sorry to raise an old thread from the dead, but is Apple currently assembling the iMacs in California?

I recently ordered a new 24" iMac with an upgraded hard drive and the FedEx tracker shows it leaving from Sacramento.

Anyone with an educated guess? :confused:

Thats just there shipping depot

[nick9191]

I'm in the UK, so I assumed my mac would have been assembled in Ireland, but no it was assembled in China. Why wouldn't they be all assembled in Ireland if we're right next door to them :confused:

I think Apple need to drastically improve their image, otherwise they'll end up no better than Dell.

[4DThinker]

I'm sure, like all other international companies, Apple has products assembled in several places. It saves shipping costs, it insures that a single factory disaster won't put you out of business, and gives you a chance to ramp up some factories with new products while others keep making the old.

No matter where your Mac came from, I hope you got a good one. ;)

[fredrickyoon]

Depends, but the bulk assembled and shipped out of China. Mine was assembled and shipped out from China.

[TEG]

If Apple and other US companies were even remotely smart, they would begin to build manufacturing plants in places like Flint or Detroit, or anyplac else that has been screwed by other manufacturing systems. You just have to keep the people happy so they don't bring in the unions, because that is what has destroyed the US industries. Unions with too much money and too corrupt, pushing many businesses nearly into bankrupcy.

TEG

[Pope Jawn Pawl]

If there was anyone in the US who was willing to work in an electronics manufacturing plant with no OSHA or EPA regulations for pennies an hour, then you can talk about having Apples made here. Unions have nothing to do with it.

[SaSaSushi]

Ok they suck. Chines cars are like tin cans. And Jap cars are cheep. Buy a real car made in America or germany or definitely Italy

Huh??! :confused: This sort of ignorant flamebait doesn't belong in here.

What Chinese cars are you referring to exactly? I doubt you could even name one. What exactly is "cheap" about Japanese cars?

I hope you're not American with that atrocious spelling and grammar of yours. It doesn't reflect well on the American cars you're heralding.

I'm American and I happen to have great respect for the American automobile. That said I have equal respect for Japanese cars which certainly have nothing to be envious of America about in terms of quality.

Quality is a management responsibility. So, no matter where they're
assembled, 100% of the blame for poor quality resides in Cupertino.

It's pure racism to blame $0.50 per hour production workers for the
failures of 6-figure-salary corporate executives, and 9-figure CEOs.

LK

I couldn't agree more.