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Toe
Aug 15, 2007, 11:50 AM
Apple is now poised to release a tablet. Finally. Now they have the Intel chipset and the touch interface. All they need are the right time (a month before Xmas) and the right name.

Well, isn't it convenient that they changed the names of their laptops? Now Mac laptops have Mac in the name. But something more application-specific, like a tablet, deserves an i at the beginning.

iMac... iPod... iPhone... iBook. Why not? Apple has recycled names before. AppleWorks comes to mind, plus some other things I can't remember right now. And they have never been afraid to use the same name for radically different products (compare the original iMac to the current one).

So... if they ever do release a tablet, my bet is that it will be the iBook.



enda1
Aug 15, 2007, 11:53 AM
Whatever you're smoking, i want!

PlaceofDis
Aug 15, 2007, 12:02 PM
um no. two totally different products so this wouldn't work too well at all. the imac example is null and void since the imac has only really changed components and shape, but its still an AIO home computer system

Toe
Aug 15, 2007, 12:10 PM
um no. two totally different products so this wouldn't work too well at all. the imac example is null and void since the imac has only really changed components and shape, but its still an AIO home computer system

And the iBook (tablet) would still be a portable Mac.

But more to the point, AppleWorks was software written by Claris for the Apple ][ computers. Then much later Claris came out with ClarisWorks, which was completely different software for the Mac; and Apple renamed that AppleWorks later on. I know there are other examples of Apple recycling names for different products, but I just can't remember them offhand.

Why wouldn't Apple re-use such a good name as iBook. Using it for a touch tablet would fit perfectly into their product matrix.

TheNightPhoenix
Aug 15, 2007, 12:16 PM
The term book is used for laptops cause they open like a book.

iBook would be a stupid name for a tablet. iTablet would actually make sense

Plus the reasoning to stop iBook was to put Mac in the whole mac product line names. So MacTab or MacinTouch would make even more sense.

filmgirl
Aug 15, 2007, 12:18 PM
Hey *I* know - why don't they call it Newton?

I kid, I kid.:p

triddent222
Aug 15, 2007, 01:29 PM
I dont see Apple releasing any new products any time soon. Also, the name "iBook" is still in use. If they use the name "iBook" on a completely new product it would probably create confusion. Remember it's only been a couple years since the 'Books stop producing...

If Apple uses "MacInTouch" in whatever product they ever release, I am going to be certainly disappointed on their design team. "MacInTouch" sounds like a cheap TV-only product, like an e-dictionary or something. argh >.>

klymr
Aug 15, 2007, 01:30 PM
Wasn't the name iBook already used by Apple on before? Let me guess, you want the next Mac Pro to be called The Apple I.

BTW, I loved this little line under TheNightPheonix message:
Last edited by TheNightPhoenix : Today at 11:17 AM. Reason: speeling ;)

kwood
Aug 15, 2007, 01:45 PM
BTW, I loved this little line under TheNightPheonix message:
Last edited by TheNightPhoenix : Today at 11:17 AM. Reason: speeling ;)

Makes you wonder if it were done on purpose.

Personally I think a tablet is a great idea. But I don't see apple reusing old product names on a regular basis. Especially with a piece of hardware.

CalBoy
Aug 15, 2007, 01:46 PM
And the iBook (tablet) would still be a portable Mac.
Ummm...the iMac never stopped being an all-in-one computer. Sure, it was updated and has been changed since its inception, but that doesn't mean the computer's primary focus has changed. The iBook is a consumer laptop. Its production was only ended about 16 months ago. To revamp the product in such a way would cause confusion.


Why wouldn't Apple re-use such a good name as iBook. Using it for a touch tablet would fit perfectly into their product matrix.

The name is good, but the product is not a notebook. Tablets are different, and thus need a different name. I'm guessing something along the line of "Mac Tablet," "iTablet," or something way out there like "iTouch." Personally though, it looks like the "i" prefix is being changed; it used to be the range of "consumer" products, which included iMac, iBook, iPod, iLife, iWork, etc. Now it seems that the only computer left in the "i" range is the iMac, and that the brand may be in for some changes. We'll have to wait and see what old Steve has up his sleeve.

shecky
Aug 15, 2007, 01:47 PM
how do you define a "tablet" anyway? i think it could be argued that the iPhone is version 1.0 of the apple tablet computer.

CalBoy
Aug 15, 2007, 01:50 PM
how do you define a "tablet" anyway? i think it could be argued that the iPhone is version 1.0 of the apple tablet computer.

Naw, the iPhone is simply "Newton's Revenge.":p

Toe
Aug 15, 2007, 01:58 PM
I dont see Apple releasing any new products any time soon.
Who knows if it's true or not, but this AppleInsider article (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/07/19/sources_apple_set_to_grow_iphone_family_pre_holidays.html) is what got me started:
The move is believed to be part of a broader, all-out blitz on the consumer electronics sector this holiday shopping season, in which a staggering array of gadgets from the Cupertino-based firm is expected to leave would-be rivals confused and unable to react.

Now wouldn't that just be the coolest thing? If this is in any way true, then they will probably be releasing some sort of big iPhone (i.e., tablet).

To revamp the product in such a way would cause confusion.
Apple doesn't give one hoot about how much confusion they cause. It causes no end of confusion for (to pick one of many, many examples) a Titanium 800 MHz 15" laptop and an Aluminum 1.5 GHz 17" laptop with a completely different motherboard to both be called nothing but "PowerBook G4." And don't even get me started on "iPod." Sure, there are ways of differentiating, such as "3rd generation," but those aren't official. Any full sized iPod is simply an iPod.

macjay
Aug 15, 2007, 02:07 PM
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CalBoy
Aug 15, 2007, 02:07 PM
Apple doesn't give one hoot about how much confusion they cause. It causes no end of confusion for (to pick one of many, many examples) a Titanium 800 MHz 15" laptop and an Aluminum 1.5 GHz 17" laptop with a completely different motherboard to both be called nothing but "PowerBook G4." And don't even get me started on "iPod." Sure, there are ways of differentiating, such as "3rd generation," but those aren't official. Any full sized iPod is simply an iPod.

Oh Apple gives plenty of hoot. What you're describing with the iPod is different from an iBook being launched as a tablet. It might be a little confusing for noobs to be able to tell the difference between a newer iPod and an older iPod, but at least they'll know that is is an MP3 player and not an iPhone(for example). This iBook you're talking about is a different product with a different goal. It wouldn't work.

Apple has recycled names before. AppleWorks comes to mind
Appleworks didn't change function when it went back and forth between names. There was never an Appleworks which served as a photo editing suit or something along those lines. It was always an office productivity suit.

filmgirl
Aug 15, 2007, 02:07 PM
Naw, the iPhone is simply "Newton's Revenge.":p

True 'dat! Egg freckles, what?

No, I think for a tablet it has to have a large enough area where you can write (with a stylus) directly on the screen, you know for notes, presentations, looking cooler than your co-workers at big meetings.

I'd imagine Apple has been reluctant to get into the tablet market because it hasn't taken off the way the "experts" said it would a few years back. Subnotebooks have taken off, but not tablets. They could always do an ultrapotable sub notebook and call it the iSub or the iNote or the MacNote.

CalBoy
Aug 15, 2007, 02:09 PM
I'd imagine Apple has been reluctant to get into the tablet market because it hasn't taken off the way the "experts" said it would a few years back. Subnotebooks have taken off, but not tablets. They could always do an ultrapotable sub notebook and call it the iSub or the iNote or the MacNote.

I like iNote. I think it's a good name; it really works well for a subnotebook.

zioxide
Aug 15, 2007, 02:12 PM
how about they call it the iSaac?

for iSaac Newton

:p

triddent222
Aug 15, 2007, 02:21 PM
It's true that Tablets havent really "taken off", but I believe that is due to a bad "target audience" philosophy among big companies like HP and Gateway (two of the top, if not the *only* TabletPC manufacturers). THe thing is, HPs and Gateways appeal to the "business" croud. Their laptops are cheap but functional, nothing too stylish about them.
Now, who would *really* use a tablet? Artists...and I dont see many artists buying HP or Gateway laptops. If a company ever wants Tablets to *take off*, they must design them with artists on mind, that is: Great touch interface and response time (some Tablets have quite a noticeable lag), Great screen and *big* resolutions. A pretty design (*gasp*: Apple much?) and awesome performance (CAD, Photoshop [and any other photo app] are pretty intensive piece of software.) That's why Wacom is so successful, they have AMAZING tablets, and you can use them in whatever computer you want, so you're not limited on the processing power, and if you ever need to scale, you can do that easily.
Once Apple can cram up a decent graphics chip and CPU on a lightweight and small case, plus a good touch-screen, then they WILL have a successful tablet.

techlover828
Aug 15, 2007, 02:28 PM
what ever it's called, I want it.

Toe
Aug 15, 2007, 02:54 PM
Now, who would *really* use a tablet? Artists...and I dont see many artists buying HP or Gateway laptops.

There's also the home user segment. From Gateway (etc.)'s perspective, a tablet makes no sense for the home user. But as part of Apple's "digital lifestyle," a tablet would be amazing. If you're playing music or a movie through your AirPort/:apple:TV setup, do you really have to go to a computer to change what's playing? Can't you just grab a tablet and control it from there?

Or if you want to read a book on a computer, a tablet would be a much nicer interface. Same for any sort of web browsing/reading done while lying in bed or sprawled on the couch... a tablet would be more comfortable than a laptop.

benulous
Aug 15, 2007, 02:54 PM
Would be kewl if it were something like this:

http://lostinafog.com/blog/2006/03/10/144/

neB

Zel
Aug 15, 2007, 03:17 PM
They should take naming advice from ATI and nVidia

The Newton X9850 GTX...Pro...

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triddent222
Aug 15, 2007, 03:27 PM
There's also the home user segment. From Gateway (etc.)'s perspective, a tablet makes no sense for the home user. But as part of Apple's "digital lifestyle," a tablet would be amazing. If you're playing music or a movie through your AirPort/:apple:TV setup, do you really have to go to a computer to change what's playing? Can't you just grab a tablet and control it from there?

So, you're telling me you're willing to buy:
1) iMac or Mac Pro as a dedicated Media Server
2) :apple:TV as your Media Extender
3) Mac Tablet as your "remote Control"

...

dont you think its a bit pricey? It would make WAY more sense to use your..idk, iPhone as the remote control. So there you have your Phone, IM (hopefully), Internet, Media, and Remote Control, in a truly all in one device.

Or if you want to read a book on a computer, a tablet would be a much nicer interface. Same for any sort of web browsing/reading done while lying in bed or sprawled on the couch... a tablet would be more comfortable than a laptop.

If you want to read a book, you may as-well use THE BOOK. I love technology, Im only 17 years old, but I still find the actual book easier to read than a computer screen, touch screen or not.

notjustjay
Aug 15, 2007, 03:36 PM
"MacInTouch" sounds like a cheap TV-only product, like an e-dictionary or something. argh >.>

It does, however, sound like a good name for a reader-supported website about Mac products and experiences. :)

CalBoy
Aug 15, 2007, 03:56 PM
If you want to read a book, you may as-well use THE BOOK. I love technology, Im only 17 years old, but I still find the actual book easier to read than a computer screen, touch screen or not.

Amen. Sometimes screens can wreak havoc on the eyes. I find paper much easier to read off of.

triddent222
Aug 15, 2007, 04:03 PM
It does, however, sound like a good name for a reader-supported website about Mac products and experiences. :)

Very true (http://www.macintouch.com)...LOL

dacreativeguy
Aug 15, 2007, 04:03 PM
Notebook computers flow into my company like water and I've only seen 1 person who ever bought a tablet. It was one of those Toshiba convertibles that can be a notebook or a tablet. In a year, I've never seen it being used in tablet mode.

Tablets seemed like a great idea, but haven't caught on. I seriously doubt that Apple will decide to sell one until people start buying the tablets that already exist.

klymr
Aug 15, 2007, 04:27 PM
Call it the BigMac. Wait...doh!

Seriously though, I don't see a tablet coming from Apple. Didn't you guys pay attention to Steve Jobs one week ago? Let me recap that for ya:


Q: You have Multitouch on the iPhone. What about on the Mac?
A: It doesn't make a lot of sense right now on the Mac. We'd classify that as a research project.

I'd say if it happens, it's not gunna be in November. It's going to be a lot longer than that. Then again, Apple is good at surprises.

xpovos
Aug 15, 2007, 10:36 PM
Then again, Apple is good at surprises.

Actually, Apple is terrible at surprises. If they were good at it, sites like ThinkSecret wouldn't be able to accurately predict new product configurations and release dates so often.

I would speculate that the only real difference between Apple and most other companies, when it comes to product announcements, is that Apple is the only company that understands how to generate such incredible hype by "leaking" tidbits of information and then pretending not to know about it. By the time their products hit the market, the hype is generally so feverish that thousands upon thousands of people are willing to plunk down thousands of dollars for products they've neither actually seen nor even researched.

klymr
Aug 15, 2007, 10:46 PM
Actually, Apple is terrible at surprises. If they were good at it, sites like ThinkSecret wouldn't be able to accurately predict new product configurations and release dates so often.

I would speculate that the only real difference between Apple and most other companies, when it comes to product announcements, is that Apple is the only company that understands how to generate such incredible hype by "leaking" tidbits of information and then pretending not to know about it. By the time their products hit the market, the hype is generally so feverish that thousands upon thousands of people are willing to plunk down thousands of dollars for products they've neither actually seen nor even researched.

Valid point. They are very terrible about surprises. What I meant was that you never know for sure. It's all just speculation.

CalBoy
Aug 15, 2007, 11:08 PM
Actually, Apple is terrible at surprises. If they were good at it, sites like ThinkSecret wouldn't be able to accurately predict new product configurations and release dates so often.

I would speculate that the only real difference between Apple and most other companies, when it comes to product announcements, is that Apple is the only company that understands how to generate such incredible hype by "leaking" tidbits of information and then pretending not to know about it. By the time their products hit the market, the hype is generally so feverish that thousands upon thousands of people are willing to plunk down thousands of dollars for products they've neither actually seen nor even researched.

Which is why Apple has a great reputation for spin and marketing. Honestly, Apple is able to generate positive press for bad things (like Leopard's delay; I remember reading more about the iPhone in my local paper's article that day than I did about Leopard).

Back to the point: iBook for a tablet will not happen, and it shouldn't happen.

Mgkwho
Aug 15, 2007, 11:27 PM
Well, as much as I would like iBook:

1) it's too recent
2) Jobs said they want the word "mac" in the name

Also, MacWorld will hold anything new. IF there is a tablet, or something completely new besides, it will definitely be at MacWorld. If it's big, it's too big for November (just poor timing for Apple not by Apple; yes in time for Christmas but then what about January?)

September = iPod updates
October = Leopard
November = small refreshes before Thanksgiving, hopefully :apple:TV
December = no updates

January = MacWorld -- new displays, something new, iPhone announcement (whether new app or iPhone nano, there will be something; hopefully not a June release)

-=|Mgkwho

KingYaba
Sep 29, 2007, 12:45 AM
Why not build a tablet yourself?

http://homepage.mac.com/peter_green/MMP_MkIII_Tablet/

JWFerne
Sep 29, 2007, 12:50 AM
I think they'll name it the iPad

GavinTing
Sep 29, 2007, 03:07 AM
Calling it iBook will certainly be confusing, and lead to some scams on ebay with people trying to buy iBooks..

Perhaps iNewton?

Oh, someone already made the modbook tablet

queshy
Sep 29, 2007, 03:39 AM
How about they call it iItwillneverhappen,lol. I doubt they will introduce that...didn't SJ say it was only being "researched" the same day he unveiled the new iMacs?