Does P2P just SUCK on the Mac?

[eclipse525]

Ok folks.....I've tried Limewire, Aquisition, Kazaa(on VPC with descent results) and Poisoned(being the best so far). None of them are even close to the download speed and times of let's say Kazaa on Windows or even AudioGalaxy(for those who remembered it back in the day. Glory days).......

Now...my questions is very simple. Doesn P2P just generally suck on the Mac? Also, does anybody have any views on how it can get better? Oh...wait....one more question! Has anybody tried this new one called "KaZaA Lite, the K++ edition"?

http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,24330,3464142,00.html



~e

[mnkeybsness]

every week someone new posts a thread almost exactly like this. try doing a search in the forums for p2p and sharing...you may come across a wonderful app named "poisoned"

[jaesk8er]

Hey you might want to try out mlMac. You can get it on http://versiontracker.com

[MrMacMan]

3 Progams:

1) Poisoned .4 -- OpenFT, FastTrack, Gnutella
2) mlMac -- eDonkey
3) BitTorrent -- No central network, you have to know the sites.

I use Poisoned and Bit Torrent the most, but you need to know the sites for Bit Torrent... if you get my drift.


No, Limewire sucks its bloated... aquisiton/liberty is dead... and Why the hell did you even TRY anything on VPC on a Dual 1.42 it only emulated like a 700 MHZ PC... with like no graphics.

edit:
Originally posted by mnkeybsness
every week someone new posts a thread almost exactly like this. try doing a search in the forums for p2p and sharing...you may come across a wonderful app named "poisoned"
He said that in his first post...

And the KaZaA lite K++ version is better then KaZaA because of no SpyWare, but for the mac... no... VPC just outight sucks for much of everything.

Maybe next version.

[arn]

mldonkey has the best network support. (mlnet is based on it)

arn

[therevolution]

try direct connect: http://www.neo-modus.com . Moderate learning curve, and many hubs have minimum share requirements, but nothing else I've used comes close to having as many files available.

[eclipse525]

Regardless of who ever replied what....thanks. Very helpful. In response to the why I tried VPC.........I actually firsted installed it to see if I can get DVDXCOPY working on it then I figured, "Hell" Let me just give Kazaa a shot. I must say I've gotten as much or more stuff/results from Kazaa using VPC than native Limewire(which sucks regardless). In the grand scheme of things, VPC is WAY too slow and can't imagine it getting any faster. Who knows though, with the new G5's and the aquisition of VPC by MS, let's see if it get's any better. "It's a multi-platform world kids and you do what you gotta do to get the job done."

Fellas...thanks again for the info.


~e

[Macpoops]

Mlmac not only supports edonkey but also Kazaa and Bit Torrent. I haven't used poisioned but i did use gift for a period of time. Mlmac was better didn't have to think about getting it to work. It just did

[nuckinfutz]

You are the first person that I've heard write "Kazaa" and "fast" in the same sentence.

I have a PC and Kazaa is the slowest P2P out there. I have Comcast Cable so they could be purposely slowing ports down that run Kazaa.

Right now speed is the least of my worries. I want something with NO spyware period.

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Macpoops
Mlmac not only supports edonkey but also Kazaa and Bit Torrent. I haven't used poisioned but i did use gift for a period of time. Mlmac was better didn't have to think about getting it to work. It just did
Yeah There is no more compiling, it is all automatic, the way it should ne.

It works great now.

Originally posted by nuckinfutz
You are the first person that I've heard write "Kazaa" and "fast" in the same sentence.

I have a PC and Kazaa is the slowest P2P out there. I have Comcast Cable so they could be purposely slowing ports down that run Kazaa.

Right now speed is the least of my worries. I want something with NO spyware period.
For PC:
KaZaA Lite K++ best out there right now.
No spyware... speedy connection, all around better.

BTW, i don't see how mlMac has support for Bit Torrent... or half the places they claim to support.

[orangefoodie]

Is the neomodus DC client the only one available for the Mac? DC++ on Windoze is much better, and I'd love to see a mac client have half that functionality... For example, the official DC client for mac doensn't support Unicode file names. Problem is, half the files I'm sharing/downloading have unicode file names... :rolleyes:

[therevolution]

Originally posted by orangefoodie
Is the neomodus DC client the only one available for the Mac? DC++ on Windoze is much better, and I'd love to see a mac client have half that functionality... For example, the official DC client for mac doensn't support Unicode file names. Problem is, half the files I'm sharing/downloading have unicode file names... :rolleyes: yes, unfortunately, it's the only DC for Mac client I'm aware of. You're right, it's not nearly as good as the Windows version. But for me, it gets the job done. I've never run into that problem you describe. There's always Virtual PC...

[excalibur313]

What are the best mac servers for direct connect? I know there was this really good private one with like 200-300 people but i reformatted my harddrive and i lost it. So if people could post dc mac servers I'd appreciate it!
Thanks,
Excalibur313

[orangefoodie]

Sigh. And I thought the point of switching to Macs was to get away from the Microsoft dependence. :( Stupid windows is like doing drugs --- the more you try to pull away from it, the harder it gets... First OpenCanvas, Tageditors, Emule, and now DC...

[therevolution]

Originally posted by orangefoodie
Sigh. And I thought the point of switching to Macs was to get away from the Microsoft dependence. :( Stupid windows is like doing drugs --- the more you try to pull away from it, the harder it gets... First OpenCanvas, Tageditors, Emule, and now DC...

Yep. Blame the developers. At least running Windows apps on a Mac is an option...

excalibur: try these sites

mac.myftp.org
moshub.no-ip.info:1090

That's all I have at the moment. Don't forget to try filtering out public servers against the search term "mac".

[eclipse525]

i agree.....at least you have the option of running windows on the Mac. Even if it's slow as a snail. I still believe that you should have a separate Windows machine and Mac. Even a inexpensive Windows machine is faster than VPC.

How do you all feel about the concept of "Being Loyal to a specific platform"? Should you stick to your guns or are you just shooting yourself in the foot?


~e

[Daveman Deluxe]

Platform loyalty is really only a hinderance in circumstances where the other operating system is clearly the superior choice in your field. It can also be a liability if the current platform gives you nothing but trouble.

Platform loyalty is an asset when it prevents you from considering an operating system at which you are less proficient and offers no clear objective benefit to your needs.

[TMA]

About the download speeds...

Slow downloads has always been a bad point for P2P. Consider what is happening; Millions of people on rural/home internet connections sharing files, most people want to download more than upload, and even if this is not the case for everyone the fact is it is easier to download than upload.

imho P2P often 'sucks' because it is a scene that is always changing. New protocals, new OS's, different OS's, evading anti piracy organisations, conforming with anti piracy organisations, supporting new technology (hardware and software), compatibility with older software, etc.. etc.. Factor all this together and it does become messy.

For the people that do steal music/software on these networks (not everyone) it has always seemed to me abit odd that they complain about speeds when they are getting something for free.

But anyway I am sorry for ranting :) I do agree that P2P software on macs can be a bit bad, but if you hunt around you can find some gems such as Mlmac and Bittorrent as others recommend.

[MontanaMacster]

For mentioning poisoned.

http://gottsilla.net/software.php?site=poisoned

[Vlade]

After using LimeWire, Poisoned is AWESOME!!! I still can't compare it to Kazaa on the PC because my PC I ordered is coming in tomorrow.

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Vlade
After using LimeWire, Poisoned is AWESOME!!! I still can't compare it to Kazaa on the PC because my PC I ordered is coming in tomorrow.

I don't even know why people even used Limewire... even back there there was HotLine and all of those places...

Poisoned is good because it connects to more than FastTrack, also connects to OpenFT (gift its own protocal) and Gnutella (partial, see next version)

[evildead]

I am all about Carracho!

[will_henderson]

That being said, I think P2P sucks in general. I did Hotline, I occasionaly venture onto Carracho, and I have expiremented with every napster/Kazaa clone out there. Bottom line is, its all a headache.

That being said, might there be a reason this is all so hard? Why is it that the Mac is so easy, but getting music on the Mac isn't. Simple. It's stealing. Whether or not you agree with the law, the fact is its there and it makes it harder to do these things. So do your self a favor. Log onto the iTunes store and rejoice in the fact that we are the only platform to have such a resource. Notice how easy it is. Paying for music doesn't hurt.

-Will

[Chealion]

Slow P2P?

What about my 1 MB/sec download speed (for a sustained 10 minutes) from FastTrack?

Poisoned is awesome.

[NicoMan]

If you are willing to take the time to learn how it works, mlDonkey does the job. You can search bitTorrent, fastTrack, edonkey, Overnet and Gnutella. If you want the version with a GUI, get mlMac: it doesn't have all the features, but if you are still missing a few things, you can pass commands to the mlDonkey daemon (running underneath the mlMac GUI) via your usual browser.

I'm sure you will like it...

[eclipse525]

(as I speak for myself...) I do rejoice in the fact that we have a wonderful outlet to buy music on a single to single basis. I don't want to get into too much becuase of the nature of this thread BUT I grew up in an era where I caught the tail end of 45's and the beginnings of CD Singles(which diminished quickly). A perfect example of the Record company's control of what's released and what's not. Due to the fact that 75% of most album releases weren't filled with substance BUT rather "filler material = tax write off". Enough to justify an album. Having one or (if lucky) two tracks fueling sales of albums. Which brings me to the era of P2P, which is the backfire of constantly disappointed people only taking what they like. Also...you ask why there isn't GREAT albums nowadays. Take the average age of the artist themselves(for the most part). No experience in ANYTHING. Songwriting, playing and just life in general. Note, there are exceptions to the rule but far and few inbetween.

Sorry about ranting......just MY option.

Getting back on the topic of P2P.....I've had the most success with "Posioned" but it seems that as everyday passes it get's slower and slower. I also just started using DC but found that alot of servers on the list require you to use DC ++. Which ofcourse is not availalble for Mac. Great.<LOL> I also tried using MLMac but I'm honestly not good with the whole terminal thing. Any advice? Thanks!

~e

[tazo]

Originally posted by will_henderson
That being said, I think P2P sucks in general. I did Hotline, I occasionaly venture onto Carracho, and I have expiremented with every napster/Kazaa clone out there. Bottom line is, its all a headache.

That being said, might there be a reason this is all so hard? Why is it that the Mac is so easy, but getting music on the Mac isn't. Simple. It's stealing. Whether or not you agree with the law, the fact is its there and it makes it harder to do these things. So do your self a favor. Log onto the iTunes store and rejoice in the fact that we are the only platform to have such a resource. Notice how easy it is. Paying for music doesn't hurt.

-Will

Face the fact that the majority of p2p users are teenagers or college students. What is the one thing these individuals will most likely lack? Money. Dinero. The ol' greenback. For many paying money for music, albeit a small sum, is still out of the question.

Not all of us are in the financial position to support Apple & their new project.

Sorry.

[will_henderson]

Face the fact that the majority of p2p users are teenagers or college students. What is the one thing these individuals will most likely lack? Money. Dinero. The ol' greenback. For many paying money for music, albeit a small sum, is still out of the question.

Sorry. I've heard many justifications of pirating music - used many myself, but this one just ain't good. I am a college student, and man, I don't walk into a store and feel justified in taking things becuase of it. Even if I'm really hungry I don't go on an eating spree in the nearest supermarket. If you are in college you have two options - get a side job and afford those precious pieces of plastic, or go out and jam with your friends (or go out an listen to your friends JAM). Chances are if you are in a college - an enviorment where many thousands of dollars are spent each year upholding your intellect and soul - you should have no problem getting your musical appetite filled. Personally, I worked all summer to pay for college and am setting aside a couple hundred for things like the iTunes store. That and my stratocaster is coming with me to school :) .

-will

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by will_henderson
Bottom line is, its all a headache.

Um....No, it isn't. K-lite on PC is the easiest thing in the world to use and install, and it finds hundreds of results for most searches in a snap.
Originally posted by will_henderson
Paying for music doesn't hurt.

Yes it does, it hurts my wallet. Why pay when I can get it for free?
If there is one store giving things away, why would I go next door to pay for exactly the same thing?

[will_henderson]

If there is one store giving things away, why would I go next door to pay for exactly the same thing?

Quite simply becuase there is no "store" giving it away. Even if there were, how long do you think it would stay in business. Our entire business infastructure relys on the simple process of paying someone for their time, services and products. My point was that no program that makes it easy to steal will exist for long - for both capital and legal reasons. Therefor, music-downloaders will forever be in a state of strife (though so will the music industry that ruthlessly hunts them down while refusing to embrace the new format). Thus, unless MP3ers unite and overthrow us into a state of communism, the free-loading business (and moral) scheme is obscure. Like I said, if you look, there's plenty of really free music in the world. If you want the commerical stuff though, pay for it.

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by will_henderson
My point was that no program that makes it easy to steal will exist for long - for both capital and legal reasons.
Right, and that's why KaZaA (origionally Morpheus) has been around for several years now huh?

[will_henderson]

Right, and that's why KaZaA (origionally Morpheus) has been around for several years now huh?

...and is facing legal threats from the industry all the while? Listen, its a hostile place out there in the business world. No multi-billion dollar industry will sit by and watch things that make it easy for others to cheat them of money. A couple of years may seem like a lot, but in the end it will fair the same as Napster (which, by the way, is being reincarnated by Roxio).

-w

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by will_henderson
...and is facing legal threats from the industry all the while? Listen, its a hostile place out there in the business world. No multi-billion dollar industry will sit by and watch things that make it easy for others to cheat them of money. A couple of years may seem like a lot, but in the end it will fair the same as Napster (which, by the way, is being reincarnated by Roxio).

-w
Maybe, but no-one (from what I know) has quite figured out exactly who to sue and what for. Sharman Networks has been very clever in the way it has positioned itself globally, where certain elements and sub companies are registered (due to loop holes in different country’s laws), and what part of that main company they are responsible for.

[Vlade]

There will always be file swapping, whenever one service dies there are 10 new ones popping up.

The record companies will lose the war unless they are allowed to write viruses and put them on P2P networks, ones that ruin hardware. People don't think of P2P as stealing anymore, they tricked themselves into thinking its "Sharing".

[Huked on Fonick]

i like poisioned and accq is ok i guess but poisioned is better mlmac i ok but there are somethings i really dislike abotu it so i dont use it

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Huked on Fonick
i like poisioned and accq is ok i guess but poisioned is better mlmac i ok but there are somethings i really dislike abotu it so i dont use it

You mind saying the things you dislike abotu it are?

I can see if they like your idea over theirs.

[Huked on Fonick]

Originally posted by MrMacman
You mind saying the things you dislike abotu it are?

I can see if they like your idea over theirs.

mlmac creates a space holder for each file even if its not downloaded....... at least it did, now if this file was where i ser my downloads to be it wouldent be a big deal but its burred deep in a part of lib that i could for some reason only get through by using root....also it wasent very stable it gave me alot of errors and crashed, but then again i havent used it in like 2 months cuz poisioned does the same thing seems more refined and i like it alot better..............

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Huked on Fonick
mlmac creates a space holder for each file even if its not downloaded.......
I guess this could be implmented, but some people don't like this because it might give the allusion that they *have* the file... or that it just takes up space when not even partially done.
If I download several large files when they are all the same file:
'Mozart - 1'
'Mozart 1'
'Mozart -- 1'
Each is going to take up the space.

at least it did, now if this file was where i ser my downloads to be it wouldent be a big deal but its burred deep in a part of lib that i could for some reason only get through by using root
I know your name.. but if your using safari check spelling...

The original location was in a '.' folder, which would be invisible, this has now changed to any folder you wish the complete and incomplete downloads to be.

....also it wasent very stable it gave me alot of errors and crashed, but then again i havent used it in like 2 months cuz poisioned does the same thing seems more refined and i like it alot better..............
I suppose the 'does the same thing' was in refence to mLmac, I suppose it would.

I think the recent version .4 has had great improvements from the original version.

[Derek~san]

Actually P2P on the mac isn't as bad as you'd think. I'm into Japanese animation, and to get most of it, I have to resort to P2P. A lot of it is never licensed or officially subbed, so this is the only channel I can resort to. The program I find most useful is Neo-Modus Direct Connect (http://neo-modus.com/). As stated before, it has a learning curve, and you need to share a good amount (5 gigs to get to a semi-decent hub), but it get results. Kazaa sucks, even on the PC, and really isn't worth it.
BitTorrent is also good, but I can usually only find new stuff on it, older anime is harder to come by.
There is a beta for the Mac client of Soulseek, which if developed, could provide the Mac with a wonderful source of P2P goodness. In any case, Mac P2P isn't bad, unless all you have experienced is Gnutella or FastTrack based clients :p

[Squire]

Originally posted by eclipse525
Now...my questions is very simple. Doesn P2P just generally suck on the Mac?

I use a few of them but you're right- in my opinion, it's nothing like on a PC. Which is one of the reasons I still use my PC: it's a quarantine station for files headed to my Mac.

Squire

[Vlade]

Originally posted by Squire
I use a few of them but you're right- in my opinion, it's nothing like on a PC. Which is one of the reasons I still use my PC: it's a quarantine station for files headed to my Mac.

Squire

I agree, I just got my PC in 2 days ago, and KaZaa Lite is 10X better than posioned, and 525X better than limewire

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Vlade
I agree, I just got my PC in 2 days ago, and KaZaa Lite is 10X better than posioned, and 525X better than limewire

Poisoned can only get better with your help, go register on the fourms and tell then what you want.

:)
Or you can tell me and I will pass it along.

Poisoned is not the same As KaZaA because it wasn't meant to me, there are many places to point the finger at, KaZaA for one for not wanting other Applications to use Fast Track, The Plugin guys who allowed them to give us access and a little at Poisoned.

[eclipse525]

Poisoned can only get better with your help, go register on the fourms and tell then what you want.


It's true....the fact of the matter is, these programmers are doing a kick ass job writing this stuff and they are human and can't be expected to create the perfect P2P. You can only have a good P2P and that developes over time by everyone using it and voicing there concerns. Dropping a decent app like "poisioned" for example because it doesn't get you the results for one reason or another, just isn't fair. The community has to come together and make it better. At the same token the programmers have to be open and keep open a good line of communication with it's users. You just can't put something out there and expect people to use it, when it still has little quirks here and there. When ever you're in the mood to work on it. It's not good for the programmer and it create disgruntal users.

~e

[BenWakin]

wow. Poisoned is awesome. By far the best.

[Squire]

Originally posted by BenWakin
wow. Poisoned is awesome. By far the best.

Link, anyone?

Squire

[Vlade]

Originally posted by Squire
Link, anyone?

Squire

A 5 second google search...

http://www.google.com/search?q=poisoned+mac&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

[Schiffi]

mlMac is fine for what I download, never had a problem with it.

Also, I have never heard of a Mac user getting a virus via P2P as opposed to the PC.

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Squire
Link, anyone?

Squire

http://www.gottsilla.net/software.php?site=poisoned

Originally posted by Schiffi
mlMac is fine for what I download, never had a problem with it.

Also, I have never heard of a Mac user getting a virus via P2P as opposed to the PC.
Yeah serious the chance a Mac User downloads anything off FastTrack is small enough, how are you going to target then?

[eclipse525]

So I'm on acouple of Hubs with DC and I whind up getting kicked off. Reason being, I happen to have a rogue file in all the Gigs(about 50g) that they didn't approve of. Now, I'm not allowed access to that Hub. One stupid file!!! Actually, I didn't even know the file was there until they pointed it out. I would think a warning would have been nice. The file is since removed but still not allowed access. Anybody have a similar inccident? Also, does anybody recommend any good Hubs? Mac based if possible. Also, WHO and HOW does a Hub form?

Another thing, I'm finding that a good portion of these Hubs(especially MAC filtered) are Swedish/French. I think? Anybody speak english on these Hubs. Actually, in all fairness, some do but you can't follow the rest of the chats. Oh well.


~e

[eclipse525]

Does anybody us DC and frequent any specific HUBs? I'm fairly new and still trying to find a solid Hub(that won't kick me out!<LOL>...see previous post for joke.). Thanks!


~e

[DamnDJ]

Ever since Audiogalaxy went away, file sharing hasn't been the same. :(

[MrMacMan]

1) DC was never very mac friendly
2) Almost all the hubs want a frikken ton of files from you, gigs and gigs.
3) DC -- English version never did well either, so that adds to the gigs and gigs requirments.

Almost all of them are other non-english speaking hubs.

[eclipse525]

Audiogalaxy ruled ! ! !.............I got some GREAT remixes and rare cuts from Audiogalaxy. Download were quick. At least on a PC. Kinda dragged on Mac's. Is there anybody out there inspired enough or ballsy enough to rekindel an Audiogalaxy type setup.

DC is cool but no one speaks english and it's like a little club and you need to be part of cliqué. AWwww, I'm just bitter. <LOL> I'll keep trying.

Poisioned is cool but most of my downloads get stuck in that "waiting" limbo state. What the hell is that. Why can't it work like eMule. Where it can take from tons of users with the same files, even if they are incomplete and put/pull it together.

~e

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by eclipse525
Poisioned is cool but most of my downloads get stuck in that "waiting" limbo state. What the hell is that. Why can't it work like eMule. Where it can take from tons of users with the same files, even if they are incomplete and put/pull it together.

~e

A Tip:
When you get the endless waiting first:
'Pause and then Resume'
If that fails right click (or similar click) and go to find more sources.

That usually works.

have fun.

[eclipse525]

Thanks for the tip!!! I'll give it a go.

Hey, if anyone else has more tips that's worked for them....please share......

[eclipse525]

A Tip:
When you get the endless waiting first:
'Pause and then Resume'
If that fails right click (or similar click) and go to find more sources.

That usually works.

have fun.


I gave it a go and some worked but most didn't. Also, when i try to change/find a new source, nothing happens.

Also...any of you guys run a 'HUB' via DC? And/Or recommend any?


~e

[SLJ]

PC & Kazaa - great team.
Mac & Poisoned - very slow and does not access everything from Kazaa. I download more with PC & Kazaa then Mac & Poisoned. Sorry... We need Mac version of Kazaa... Where is it?

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by eclipse525
I gave it a go and some worked but most didn't. Also, when i try to change/find a new source, nothing happens.
~e
Its a tip, not god. :rolleyes:


If you 'rapid' "find new source" like one after the other, none of them will work, and don't complain about poisoned, this is because the FastTrack plugin can't do it, maybe next version.

You gotta wait for one to reach the 'peak' of the new soruces before trying the next.

Also... I found a way to find new sources constantly...

Lets say I'm downloading 'xyz123'
I search for 'xyz'
That will find me new connections (lets say 3), when that search ends and the download hasn't contiuned hit 'reload' (its an icon it is nornally an x or an reload icon).

After it realoads I will have more and more connections. With these users and the ones I can hit 'find more sources' with I can normally get 85+% of the stuff to download.

[i]Originally posted by SLJ
Mac & Poisoned - very slow and does not access everything from Kazaa. I download more with PC & Kazaa then Mac & Poisoned. Sorry...
So your expecting the same downloading and same performance as the devolpers of KaZaA have.

Yeah, because KaZaA didn't want other clients to access FastTrack they didn't give out their code, if they did we could have a better app, but they didn't.

We need Mac version of Kazaa... Where is it?

NOT COMING

They said they aren't going to make a KaZaA for mac, too much un-portable code.

That is why there is mlMac, Poisoned and BitTorrent for the mac.

[Stevil15]

Hey Will Henderson: have a read of what the musician Janis Ian has to say about file sharing, it's not all "evil freeloaders" looking to just get free tunes:

http://www.janisian.com/article-internet_debacle.html

A long time ago, when FM radio first came along, there was just as much rancor and blustering from the music industry owners. They figured with the better FM signal, people would just record music from FM stations and stop buying albums....and that it was "the beginning of the end" for the music industry!

Exactly the same thing now...but read what Janis has to say.

[MrMacMan]

.41 Poisoned is Out! (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?threadid=35690)

Get it now!

[Vlade]

Hum... I was wondering why poisoned can't find my files that are online on a PC 1 and a half feet away from my mac (and I'm sure their online, people are currently downloading from me). I will try the new version maybe

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by Vlade
Hum... I was wondering why poisoned can't find my files that are online on a PC 1 and a half feet away from my mac (and I'm sure their online, people are currently downloading from me). I will try the new version maybe

Remember the FastTrack Plugin doesn't have every client/user, its a work in progress, it access most of them, but no where near what Acual KaZaA has, but because of the Gnutella and OpenFT it balances it out.

[eclipse525]

Does anyone know why DC recognizes my shared folder and all the other subfolders in it and Posioned can not. For some reason, Posioned only recognizes the loose files in that shared folder but none of the other subFolders??????



~e

[MrMacMan]

Originally posted by eclipse525
Does anyone know why DC recognizes my shared folder and all the other subfolders in it and Posioned can not. For some reason, Posioned only recognizes the loose files in that shared folder but none of the other subFolders??????



~e

I'll ask them if this is the way it is suppose to be.

Anyway you can add folders if this is true.

[John Q Public]

Originally posted by eclipse525
Ok folks.....I've tried Limewire, Aquisition, Kazaa(on VPC with descent results) and Poisoned(being the best so far). None of them are even close to the download speed and times of let's say Kazaa on Windows or even AudioGalaxy(for those who remembered it back in the day. Glory days).......

Now...my questions is very simple. Doesn P2P just generally suck on the Mac? Also, does anybody have any views on how it can get better? Oh...wait....one more question! Has anybody tried this new one called "KaZaA Lite, the K++ edition"?

http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,24330,3464142,00.html



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it's a little dated...but HotLine is still a good P2P client/server software that is Mac (Classic and X) and Windows compatible...

[Mav451]

Originally posted by nuckinfutz
You are the first person that I've heard write "Kazaa" and "fast" in the same sentence.

I have a PC and Kazaa is the slowest P2P out there. I have Comcast Cable so they could be purposely slowing ports down that run Kazaa.

Right now speed is the least of my worries. I want something with NO spyware period.

I'm using Kazaa lite or K++ 2.4 and i consistently get 40-80k/sec download speeds. I also have comcast. THe highest speed i have gotten is 200k/second, and that was sustained for about an hour (got a movie *_*)

I seriously doubt comcast did anything to the ports at all if i'm getting 200k/second.

[eclipse525]

MrMacMan..... any info on this would be helpful.

Also, in DC....does the amount of HUBs open effect your connection speed? If you quit out and reopen DC, do you have to manually open all the HUBs you had open last or will the downloads continue as long as the person is somewhere out there in HUB land.<grin>? Are there any MAC specific HUBs out there? I did a search for 'MAC' in the HUB search but only came up with two solid HUBs that won't kick you off for any little thing. «MacGyvers Wørkshøp» & «oOMac OS HubOo»

One LAST question.....How is HotLine comparable to DC? What's the address for HotLine??


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[John Q Public]

Originally posted by eclipse525
MrMacMan..... any info on this would be helpful.

Also, in DC....does the amount of HUBs open effect your connection speed? If you quit out and reopen DC, do you have to manually open all the HUBs you had open last or will the downloads continue as long as the person is somewhere out there in HUB land.<grin>? Are there any MAC specific HUBs out there? I did a search for 'MAC' in the HUB search but only came up with two solid HUBs that won't kick you off for any little thing. «MacGyvers Wørkshøp» & «oOMac OS HubOo»

One LAST question.....How is HotLine comparable to DC? What's the address for HotLine??


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I've never used DC so I can't tell 'ya of any comparison...unfortunately Hotline is deceased...but you can still get it from CNet (http://download.com.com/3120-20-0.html?qt=hotline&tg=dl-2003&search=+Go%21+)...that's how I had to do file-sharing for a littlewhile (pre-OS X) between mac and windoze...

[TheFish]

I was usin acquisition and i never had a problem with it, its fast and all that just not good results. after reading this thread i went and downloaded poisoned wich i must say is great, but when i double click on somthing im downloading it dosnt open i have to go to the folder where its downloading too wich is kind of annoying, but ive been reading this and a lot of people are sayin kazaa isnt any good, well thats the best on the PC and posioned i think is better than kazaa but if you dont like either i would say that file sharing sucks on mac and pc

[John Q Public]

Originally posted by TheFish
I was usin acquisition and i never had a problem with it, its fast and all that just not good results. after reading this thread i went and downloaded poisoned wich i must say is great, but when i double click on somthing im downloading it dosnt open i have to go to the folder where its downloading too wich is kind of annoying, but ive been reading this and a lot of people are sayin kazaa isnt any good, well thats the best on the PC and posioned i think is better than kazaa but if you dont like either i would say that file sharing sucks on mac and pc

...or you could upgrade your mac to OS 10.2...it's fully SAMBA compliant...and you can transfer between machines anywhere on your network at whatever speeds your NIC/Hub/Router's will allow...without adding any additional software to either machine...