No East Coast Show at All?

[MacRumors]

This Boston Globe (http://www.globe.com/dailyglobe2/222/metro/City_officials_fear_Apple_expo_may_not_return+.shtml) reports that the future of any mac-related IDG-sponsored east coast show may be in jeopordy next year.

The executive directory of the Massachusetts Convention Center Authority "expressed doubt that IDG would hold any expo for Macintosh computer users on the East Coast next year."

Indeed, IDG confirms that even if next year's east-coast expo even happens, it will only bear the name "Creative Pro", shedding the use of the name "Macworld". According to David Korse, "''Macworld is only going to happen once a year, in January, in California.''

[usersince86]

In reality, the MWSF (California) is always the show with the most hype.

But if this trend continues, if the show in the east exists at all, maybe it will eventually just be called "Pro"...

[vanillamike]

Well that kind fo stinks, but then again I am moving to California in a couple years. I've never been to a macworld but I am sure this is a big hit to the mac community. How did the creative pro go off btw?

Mike

[whfsdude]

This is stupid of Apple to not let them call it MacWorld. I loved to go there and now, well I am not going :-(

Maybe Steve will change his mind :-\

[arn]

Originally posted by vanillamike
Well that kind fo stinks, but then again I am moving to California in a couple years. I've never been to a macworld but I am sure this is a big hit to the mac community. How did the creative pro go off btw?


there were mixed reports. Overall, not as good/big as previous Macworlds... but from what I've read, it was still entertaining.

arn

[arn]

Originally posted by whfsdude
This is stupid of Apple to not let them call it MacWorld. I loved to go there and now, well I am not going :-(

Maybe Steve will change his mind :-\

I'm pretty sure Steve Jobs has nothing to do with them calling it macword or not

arn

[BaghdadBob]

Apple needs to quit pissing people off...

[thebossisback]

This is a big mistake. IDG/Apple have totaly screwed the east coast. I have been going to Macworld on the east for a couple of years now. No one from the east coast will go to SF so they kind of left us hanging. Please move macworld to Boston! as well as SF!!!

[DeadlyBreakfast]

Oh his stinks. Just earlier today I was asking my g/f if she would go this year. Would have been my first. Now I'll never get the changce to go. No way I'm flying out to SF just for that . I'm kinda new to the Mac world and dont have that much cash to burn...dam....

[Vlade]

Why did 1/3rd of you vote positive...

[daRAT]

I have a feeling this was in the works for a few years now...

The NY and Boston Macworld squabble will be used now as the excuse to justify this really stupid move, so Apple can look squeaky clean.

Lets face it, Apple only wants to do one show, I think thats the real reason.


Ah well, maybe no one will go and they will can them all? Rumor sites are more fun ;]

[mstecker]

Originally posted by thebossisback
No one from the east coast will go to SF so they kind of left us hanging.

Well, I'll go, so that makes at least one person willing to go to the west coast for the one true macworld.

[Multimedia]

Originally posted by mstecker
Well, I'll go, so that makes at least one person willing to go to the west coast for the one true macworld. I loved Boston MacWorld and always went to it since 1985 (I'm in CA). I was against the move and never went to NYC MacWorld.

This January will be Mac's 20th Birhday Celebration Show. So it will be an extra special MacWorld with all sorts of Birthday surprises as Mac leaves its teenage G4 years and moves on to a more mature G5 lifestyle.

[DHagan4755]

So what if IDG doesn't do the show? Who's to say that Apple isn't planning for an east coast show of their own and has something up their sleeves that currently they are holding close to the vest?

[phgreer]

Dang,


I live in South Carolina. I was hoping we would get one in Charlotte, NC or Atlanta, GA at least.

Dang I wish more stuff would come to the southeast.

:mad:

[tizza]

Hey when are we getting a MacWorld for the Australian East coast too ?! ;)

[Ambrose Chapel]

if this does happen and there's only MWSF, i could see apple holding special product announcements at the flagship stores (chicago and soho). this way they won't have to meet an artificial deadline for having products ready, and they can spread around the RDF instead of keeping it concentrated in SF.

[LegionCSUF]

Clue a new Mac (longtime Win/Unix/Linux) user in on why anyone should care about little computer expos. Seems like an incredibly unimportant thing, not particularly worth attention.

No, I never saw much point in non-Apple expos like LinuxWorld either.

[themadchemist]

Originally posted by BaghdadBob
Apple needs to quit pissing people off...

You do make a good point. Although IDG is to blame for being overly-sensitive IMHO, I bet the release of G5s at WWDC was the last straw.

IDG probably feels that Apple is going to marginalize the summer Macworld and that it is pointless. After all, if it is as uneventful as it was this year, they are going to take an attendance hit.

It's not a big deal, it just shows that Apple is shifting its focus from one expo (Macworld) to another (WWDC).

As long as we still get our G6's on time, I really don't care!

[peterjhill]

Originally posted by BaghdadBob
Apple needs to quit pissing people off...

I don't think it was Apple's decision. Apple does not run the Expo's. They participate in them, but IDG runs them. That is why they are called Macworld, like the magazine. Personally, I think the decision makes sense. I would much rather go to San Fran. It saves money, only having one show. Cisco, this year, decided that next year, instead of having two conferences in the US, they will have one (in Las Vegas) That is what Apple should do, take advantage of all the hotels and conference space, plus cheap flights to LV.

Apple will save at least a million dollars by not having two shows. All the hotels and airfare for all the employees... With the iTunes annoucement, Steve proved that he can get alot of free press without a big show.

[themadchemist]

Originally posted by phgreer
Dang,


I live in South Carolina. I was hoping we would get one in Charlotte, NC or Atlanta, GA at least.

Dang I wish more stuff would come to the southeast.

:mad:

I live in charlotte and I certainly agree! where in South Carolina?

[Nebrie]

Apple has pissed off everyone here hundreds of times, you think they care?
Expos are a money sinkhole now. It is very hard to justify an expo anymore, which is why so many of them are closing down. The money Apple saves will be well worth it.

[Ambrose Chapel]

Originally posted by LegionCSUF
Clue a new Mac (longtime Win/Unix/Linux) user in on why anyone should care about little computer expos. Seems like an incredibly unimportant thing, not particularly worth attention.



These expos are historically where most major product announcements are made by Apple.

[cybertron3]

They can tell me to call it whatever the **** they want. But I'll still always refer to it as Macworld. And if they dump Boston for good, well screw them, I'm not goin to SF anymore

[saint.duo]

The G5, G4, and original iMac were first shown at WWDC, not MacWorld.

Apple has been leaning towards a less expo-centric release schedule for the last few years, and is probably one of the reasons they only want to do one show now. Sales have always lagged right before MacWorlds, because everyone is anticipating new releases.

I believe that Apple should start doing announcements when they are ready, and call a press conference a week or so ahead of time, like they did the iPod, iTunes Music Store, and the iMac DV line.

Originally posted by Ambrose Chapel
These expos are historically where most major product announcements are made by Apple.

[LegionCSUF]

Originally posted by Ambrose Chapel
These expos are historically where most major product announcements are made by Apple.

So?

I mean, I get that, but this seems rather unimportant. Is the product somehow less good if you read the announcement on a website instead of attending the conference?

Here I thought the products were the important thing, not the announcements of them.

[Jerry Spoon]

Originally posted by Vlade
Why did 1/3rd of you vote positive...

We're hoping for a MacWorld Midwest...kind of has a ring to it, doesn't it. I hear Peoria, IL has a great convention center;)

[arn]

Originally posted by LegionCSUF
So?

I mean, I get that, but this seems rather unimportant. Is the product somehow less good if you read the announcement on a website instead of attending the conference?

Here I thought the products were the important thing, not the announcements of them.

Macworlds are an event.

Tons of Mac hardware/software and announcements. It's a bit of a strange experience... especially in the days when there were no Apple Stores, and the only place you could order a Mac was via Mail Order.

Macworld was/is a unique experience. Thousands of Mac users and everywhere you look - Mac related stuff.

Good stuff... I suggest you try to make it to a Macworld San Francisco.

arn

[hasapi]

Originally posted by arn
Macworlds are an event.

Tons of Mac hardware/software and announcements. It's a bit of a strange experience... especially in the days when there were no Apple Stores, and the only place you could order a Mac was via Mail Order.

Macworld was/is a unique experience. Thousands of Mac users and everywhere you look - Mac related stuff.

Good stuff... I suggest you try to make it to a Macworld San Francisco.

arn

Agreed! with SJ a regular at Paris in September, it makes sense to concentrate the "event" at SF - which IMO is still the best place for Macworld. We have WWDC, Seybold, Siggraph, CES, etc.. 2x MW is overkill. But that has nothing to do with the fact that I come over to SF and get a round at Pebble Beach as well!:D

[LegionCSUF]

Originally posted by arn
Macworlds are an event.

Tons of Mac hardware/software and announcements. It's a bit of a strange experience... especially in the days when there were no Apple Stores, and the only place you could order a Mac was via Mail Order.

Macworld was/is a unique experience. Thousands of Mac users and everywhere you look - Mac related stuff.

Good stuff... I suggest you try to make it to a Macworld San Francisco.

See, that sounds like a non-"event" to me. I can't imagine travelling a distance to look at some computer gear and hear announcements that will be right there on the Web minutes after they're made.

Are there conferences or anything productive?

Maybe it's just me and my view of a computer as a tool instead of something to fawn over. Maybe it's because I don't buy into the "Mac" community, just as I don't buy into the "Linux" community - I just use them because they're useful. It's not like the products there aren't going to be available elsewhere - that would be a rather bad business strategy. :)

[arn]

Originally posted by LegionCSUF
Maybe it's just me and my view of a computer as a tool instead of something to fawn over. Maybe it's because I don't buy into the "Mac" community, just as I don't buy into the "Linux" community - I just use them because they're useful. It's not like the products there aren't going to be available elsewhere - that would be a rather bad business strategy. :)

I guess you'll have to go to a Macworld Expo and let us know what you think. ;)

I'm not saying it's a life-altering moment. It's more like being a kid in a candy factory. If you don't like browsing cool hardware and demoing cool software, and getting to look at brand new products (like new PowerMacs etc...)... then sure, it's not for you.

For those who get a kick out of playing with newest Apple products well before they are available in your local stores... it's kinda fun.

arn

[LegionCSUF]

Originally posted by arn
I'm not saying it's a life-altering moment. It's more like being a kid in a candy factory. If you don't like browsing cool hardware and demoing cool software, and getting to look at brand new products (like new PowerMacs etc...)... then sure, it's not for you.

For those who get a kick out of playing with newest Apple products well before they are available in your local stores... it's kinda fun.

Oh, I can see it being decently fun. Kinda like an Apple Store on steroids. Just doesn't seem like something I'd go out of my way to attend.

But hey, if I'm not doing anything then, my sister's been bugging me to visit her in SF. :)

[BJNY]

Originally posted by LegionCSUF
See, that sounds like a non-"event" to me. I can't imagine travelling a distance to look at some computer gear and hear announcements that will be right there on the Web minutes after they're made.

Exactly.
When there is the Apple Retail Store-Soho year round, why would Apple want to pay huge sums of money for 1) an exhibit "booth", 2) displays, signage and their setting up & striking down, 3) union labor (loading in & out, electric) 4) airfare, hotels & extra staff, and 5) shipping/freight. This is not mention the enormous effort in planning & coordination.

[mstecker]

Macworlds are a pretty awesome event. I'm a veteran of every SJ macworld and - get this - every Nextworld.


Back in the day, when I worked for NeXT, I even helped with setting up one of the SJ keynotes at NeXTworld. Amazing stuff.

Don't knock it until you've been there. It's a party and a half. I'm not what most people would consider a geek, but it's still one of my annual highlights. Right up there with Christmas and my annual trip to Peter Luger's in Brooklyn.