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Mantis
Sep 3, 2007, 03:54 AM
Well this is my first post in MR... Hope its not too bad.

Im currently in college. And i need to know somethings...:

I will be programming in C++, SQL and Visual Basic. Which are a easy-to-use, user-friendly programs for those languages?



angelwatt
Sep 3, 2007, 08:40 AM
Well it depends on what you want in terms of user-friendly. BBEdit has nice color coding and auto indenting and such, and will be good for C++ ad SQL. VB on the other hand could be harder. You can't run VB on Mac as far as I've seen. Proprietary MS crap. I'm not a fan of VB.

pigoz
Sep 3, 2007, 08:49 AM
studying VB in a college is very uncommon, by some is not even considered as a real programming language..

Mantis
Sep 3, 2007, 04:01 PM
User Friendly to me is like the UI of Doctor Java. But i need exactly that for visual basic, SQL and C++.

Kalixa
Sep 4, 2007, 04:14 PM
User Friendly to me is like the UI of Doctor Java. But i need exactly that for visual basic, SQL and C++.

I belive mono has vb support and that there is a mac version.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

iSee
Sep 4, 2007, 04:28 PM
By the inclusion of VB, which is Microsoft only, I'd guess your class will be using MS Visual Studio of some version.

Assuming you want to run this on a Mac, you'll need Parallels or VMWare Fusion on an Intel Mac to run Windows in a virtual machine and then run Visual Studio in that.

If you don't have an Intel Mac, it's harder.

Unless you want a challenge, I'd stay away from Mono. You might find the course difficult enough without having to figure out how to do everything in a different environment.

Mantis
Sep 6, 2007, 02:04 PM
Yeah MS VB... dk which version tho...

Well so theres no VB for mac... How about SQL and/or C++

MongoTheGeek
Sep 6, 2007, 02:59 PM
Yeah MS VB... dk which version tho...

Well so theres no VB for mac... How about SQL and/or C++

MySQL runs, you can download it and build install. It comes preinstalled on OSX server. GCC comes with Apple's developer tools. Its also does the heavy lifting for XCode.

Sayer
Sep 6, 2007, 03:29 PM
Use whatever software the teacher recommends or will be using to teach the class. If you need a Windows computer take some student loan money and get one from Walmart. This way you will be able to do your work on your own time exactly the same as in class, and you won't have compatibility issues.

Learning how to do programming will apply the same no matter which tool you are using. For example if you learn SQL you can apply it to MS Access on WinXP or Postgre or MySQL on Linux.

You may end up fully in CLI writing code in Vi and using only gcc/g++ or ant (Java) in the end.

Mantis
Jun 1, 2008, 05:35 PM
Just in case some1 reads this thread. I did found a native mac VB and SQL programs.

REALbasic and REALMysql.

Not that good.. But its something.

Cromulent
Jun 1, 2008, 05:45 PM
Just in case some1 reads this thread. I did found a native mac VB and SQL programs.

REALbasic and REALMysql.

Not that good.. But its something.

As has already been mentioned MySQL (which is going to be much better) is available on the Mac as is PostgreSQL. Both are incredibly powerful tools although I would lean more towards PostgreSQL myself.

REALbasic is NOT the same thing as Visual Basic at all.

sord
Jun 1, 2008, 08:53 PM
FrontBase is also a free database for the Mac with some nice GUI tools (though last time I checked it wasn't straight forward on how to actually obtain the free license).