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ooagentbender
Aug 13, 2003, 01:56 AM
Does anyone know of a good firewire hard drive casing (one I can just plug my hard regular old hard drive into) at a good price. I was hoping for a link if its no to much trouble. Or what I should look for and where. Thanks.

cb911
Aug 13, 2003, 02:03 AM
i'm not sure of any exact places, but you should try computer markets and places like that.

and since it's a desktop HD you should get a case for a good price. I saw some firewire enclosures on eBay the other day, but be careful if you go that way.

good luck. :)

alphaone
Aug 13, 2003, 02:10 AM
Try here (http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Page.cfm?Parent=685&Title=&Template=1) .

They aren't exactly cheap though. Try ebay too.

MacBandit
Aug 13, 2003, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by alphaone
Try here (http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Page.cfm?Parent=685&Title=&Template=1) .

They aren't exactly cheap though. Try ebay too.

I've been shopping a lot for firewire cases as I have a new WD 160GB SE I would like to put in one. From what I have seen there are a lot of firewire cases on the market but the ones at MacSales/OWC (the link quoted above) are the best bang for the buck at $89.

eyelikeart
Aug 13, 2003, 08:33 AM
I grabbed a decent case at CompUSA...$60 if I am correct...

GraphicUmp
Aug 13, 2003, 08:37 AM
PC Microstore (http://www.pcmicrostore.com/part-detail.asp?id=409382) has a decent one for $32.

Vlade
Aug 13, 2003, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by GraphicUmp
PC Microstore (http://www.pcmicrostore.com/part-detail.asp?id=409382) has a decent one for $32.

Thats 2.5", normal hard drives are 3.5"

iShater
Aug 13, 2003, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by MacBandit
I've been shopping a lot for firewire cases as I have a new WD 160GB SE I would like to put in one. From what I have seen there are a lot of firewire cases on the market but the ones at MacSales/OWC (the link quoted above) are the best bang for the buck at $89.

WATCH OUT!!!

If you get an Oxford 911 based case you won't be able to use all 160GB for the Western Digital harddrives! I got burnt just this past couple of weeks by that. I have a 200GB WD and only 128GB can actually be seen or used right now.

Only Maxtor drives greater that 120GB are supported by the chip. I have a thread about that open in the forums from a week or two ago.

GraphicUmp
Aug 13, 2003, 10:28 AM
Sorry....posted the wrong link :rolleyes:

Firewire (http://www.pcmicrostore.com/part-detail.asp?id=408312) $49

USB 2.0 (http://www.pcmicrostore.com/part-detail.asp?id=408673) $40

USB 2.0 - HD or Optical Drive (http://www.pcmicrostore.com/part-detail.asp?id=408672) $32

MacBandit
Aug 13, 2003, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by iShater
WATCH OUT!!!

If you get an Oxford 911 based case you won't be able to use all 160GB for the Western Digital harddrives! I got burnt just this past couple of weeks by that. I have a 200GB WD and only 128GB can actually be seen or used right now.

Only Maxtor drives greater that 120GB are supported by the chip. I have a thread about that open in the forums from a week or two ago.

What about the Oxford 912 chips do you know?

MacBandit
Aug 13, 2003, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by GraphicUmp
Sorry....posted the wrong link :rolleyes:

Firewire (http://www.pcmicrostore.com/part-detail.asp?id=408312) $49

USB 2.0 (http://www.pcmicrostore.com/part-detail.asp?id=408673) $40

USB 2.0 - HD or Optical Drive (http://www.pcmicrostore.com/part-detail.asp?id=408672) $32

The problem with these cheaper drive cases is typically they use a cheap firewire chip set that operates at as much as half the speed of the Oxford 911 chipset. I have found a few Oxford 911 driven cases for around $65 but they only have firewire and no USB/USB2.0 which is really convenient if you ever want to connect to a PC. For $30 more you get the OWC case with USB 2.0 and the Oxford 911 chipset and a very good warranty.

iShater
Aug 13, 2003, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
The problem with these cheaper drive cases is typically they use a cheap firewire chip set that operates at as much as half the speed of the Oxford 911 chipset. I have found a few Oxford 911 driven cases for around $65 but they only have firewire and no USB/USB2.0 which is really convenient if you ever want to connect to a PC. For $30 more you get the OWC case with USB 2.0 and the Oxford 911 chipset and a very good warranty.

I got a CoolMax CD-309 case that combined OXford 911, USB2.0 and FW 400 for $65 with shipping.

GraphicUmp
Aug 13, 2003, 01:14 PM
Oxford Semiconductor OXF911-TQ-A


Aluminum case


Can be used with 3.5-inch IDE drives (internal)


IEEE 1394 FireWire interface


Works with PC and Mac


Plug and Play


Supports Windows 98SE/ME/2000/XP


Supports Mac OS 8.6 and above


Hot-swappable



Maxtor hard drive up to 300GB
All other hard drives up to 128GB Hard Drives



Supports up to UDMA/133


No Max Hard Drive RPM


Dimension: 215(L)*123(W)*36(H)mm

iShater
Aug 13, 2003, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by MacBandit
What about the Oxford 912 chips do you know?

Sorry I don't :(

I didn't even know there was a 912 chip!

crazzyeddie
Aug 13, 2003, 01:49 PM
I think the new thing is 922? which is USB2/FW800/FW400

AngryAngel
Aug 13, 2003, 02:39 PM
When I bought my enclosure, I initially specified a cheap one, but because I was ordering a 200GB HD at the same time, the store rang me and said that I needed a better bridge to get more than 125GB.

The case that I specified as a replacement uses the Oxford 911 chipset and addresses the full 200GB as a single volume fine, and is much faster than a LaCie 200GB (that corrupted itself three times, and was sent back).

MacBandit
Aug 13, 2003, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by crazzyeddie
I think the new thing is 922? which is USB2/FW800/FW400

Yes your correct the new firewire bridge is the Oxford 922 and supports FW 800/400.


The OWC Oxford 911 and 922 cases support modern large capacity drives. This is straight from their spec sheet.

Compatible Mechanisms
OWC Mercury Elite ATA/6 FireWire Enclosure Kit supports all brands/capacities of 3.5" IDE/ATA hard drive up 320GBs and larger.

iShater
Aug 13, 2003, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by AngryAngel
When I bought my enclosure, I initially specified a cheap one, but because I was ordering a 200GB HD at the same time, the store rang me and said that I needed a better bridge to get more than 125GB.

The case that I specified as a replacement uses the Oxford 911 chipset and addresses the full 200GB as a single volume fine, and is much faster than a LaCie 200GB (that corrupted itself three times, and was sent back).

But what brand is the hard drive you used in it? it must have been a Maxtor.

Peter Kim
Aug 13, 2003, 06:16 PM
Does anyone know what, if any, performance difference there would be with using a 7200rpm hard drive in a firewire case and a laCie 7200rpm firewire external hd? also, what about difference in size/weight? and one more question (i'm a curious guy), do the firewire enclosures run off of the firewire cable or do they require another ac cable?

thanks!

MacBandit
Aug 13, 2003, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by Peter Kim
Does anyone know what, if any, performance difference there would be with using a 7200rpm hard drive in a firewire case and a laCie 7200rpm firewire external hd? also, what about difference in size/weight? and one more question (i'm a curious guy), do the firewire enclosures run off of the firewire cable or do they require another ac cable?

thanks!

Most firewire drives require power of their own but you can buy a compact laptop based firewire drive that can be ran off the firewire itself.

As for speed check out the information at.

www.xlr8yourmac.com

They have extensive tests and side by side comparisons of external drives to internal drives. For the most part you lose very little speed on a firewire drive in a case with Oxford based chipset.