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iMikeT
Sep 5, 2007, 08:02 AM
I'm still running 10.3.9 and not planning on upgrading until 10.5 is out.

I ended up having to return an iPhone a month back because the minimum system requirements demanded that I was running 10.4.10.

Using a little logic, does anyone else think that the new iPods will require 10.4.xx or will anything earlier suffice?



Blue Velvet
Sep 5, 2007, 08:04 AM
Bet you anything it's a minimum of Tiger... no-one knows yet, but that's my immediate and considered (kneejerk :D) view.

iMikeT
Sep 5, 2007, 08:07 AM
Mother !@#$%^&^

This means that I'll have to be waiting another two months to get anything new :apple:. :mad:

beer.coffee
Sep 5, 2007, 08:10 AM
Have new iPods ever required the latest version of OS X?

Private Sector
Sep 5, 2007, 10:54 AM
why not just pick up a copy of tiger for 129? you'll be able to use both your ipod and your iphone

Flyinace2000
Sep 5, 2007, 12:12 PM
why not just pick up a copy of tiger for 129? you'll be able to use both your ipod and your iphone


Cause Leopard will be out in about 5 weeks and he doesn;t want to spend anohter $129.

I say pirate a copy of tiger then buy leopard.

smurfy
Sep 5, 2007, 12:28 PM
Cause Leopard will be out in about 5 weeks and he doesn;t want to spend anohter $129.

I say pirate a copy of tiger then buy leopard.

No.

iMikeT
Sep 5, 2007, 01:18 PM
Have new iPods ever required the latest version of OS X?


The latest iPods have only required 10.3.9.

iMikeT
Sep 5, 2007, 01:20 PM
why not just pick up a copy of tiger for 129? you'll be able to use both your ipod and your iphone


Like the guy below you said, Leopard 10.5 is expected to be out in late October, which is around 6 weeks from now.

iMikeT
Sep 5, 2007, 01:22 PM
Cause Leopard will be out in about 5 weeks and he doesn;t want to spend anohter $129.

I say pirate a copy of tiger then buy leopard.


Piracy, I don't think so.

iMikeT
Sep 5, 2007, 01:39 PM
Holy $&#^%@!

10.4.10 is required by to sync the iPod Touch.:mad:

mkrishnan
Sep 5, 2007, 01:43 PM
You should be able to get Tiger by now for a lot less than $129... there have to be tons of retail box installs floating around that got orphaned one way or another....

EDIT: It's sold for as little as $51USD shipped on eBay in the recent past.... Could certainly pay that for it now and turn it around when Leopard comes out for little to no loss.

iMikeT
Sep 5, 2007, 01:54 PM
I think I'm going to have to find a friend who has a copy of Tiger.:(

What really sucks is that I have a copy of Tiger.... for Intel. I'm running a G4!:mad:

Not getting anything new until Leopard is released.

aethelbert
Sep 5, 2007, 03:48 PM
Well, think of it this way. By the time the Touch becomes available in stores (early october), Leopard won't be more than four weeks away.

EssentialParado
Sep 5, 2007, 06:44 PM
I was just about ready to order an iPod touch (I've been waiting years for an iPod and I promised I'd buy it immediately) but I'm on 10.3.9 and the touch requires Tiger. Well that's screwed us over.

I only want the iPod for music, wouldn't it even let me transfer music? Even if I put it into disk mode iPod?

Even the new shuffle requires 10.4 - this must be some sort of joke?

I still wanna order this iPod touch. And no, I won't be buying Tiger (unless it's confirmed that Leopard won't support G3 machines.)

Schnebar
Sep 5, 2007, 07:05 PM
Piracy, I don't think so.

I think I'm going to have to find a friend who has a copy of Tiger.:(


lol

There is no difference.

torchwood04
Sep 5, 2007, 07:21 PM
Re: the shuffle requiring 10.4, in my opinion, that's utter rubbish, as the only difference seemingly is the color. I think Apple just wants to push 10.4 (and later 10.5), and MAYBE the new shuffle will run under Panther, as I think the only difference between the new shuffle and the original 2G are new colors right?

Re:Leopard on G3-okay, it looking like it's final that Leopard will not be supported on G3s (and maybe even pre 800mhz G4s! [the dev builds required this]). Besides, why would anyone want Leopard on a G3? It's probably about time to buy that new machine! Besides, Tiger is great on a G3, and 10.4 will likely be supported until 2009 (when I think 10.6 will be released).

Re:New iPods with Panther-okay, no offense, but if you're still using Panther on your main machine, you've had over 2 years to upgrade to Tiger, besides, Apple will likely be discontinuing security updates for Panther anytime now. And, if you're waiting for Leopard, I think one can last 4 weeks without an iPod to sync..

(Please don't kill me; Just my OPINION)

EssentialParado
Sep 5, 2007, 07:28 PM
I think Apple just wants to push 10.4
I agree. So why are they doing this to the iPods now, when they are fully aware there are still millions of 10.3 users waiting for Leopard before they upgrade?

Re:Leopard on G3-okay, it looking like it's final that Leopard will not be supported on G3s (and maybe even pre 800mhz G4s! [the dev builds required this]). Besides, why would anyone want Leopard on a G3? It's probably about time to buy that new machine! Besides, Tiger is great on a G3, and 10.4 will likely be supported until 2009 (when I think 10.6 will be released).
Thanks for the info. That's horrible. As far as I'm concerned, 10.4 ran great on G3 CPUs and I don't think Leopard will run all that badly either.

Re:New iPods with Panther-okay, no offense, but if you're still using Panther on your main machine, you've had over 2 years to upgrade to Tiger
Well this is going off topic now, but ever since I saw Tiger I have had zero interest in it. I saw dashboard and spotlight - they are not worth paying $129 for. Especially when Steve Jobs announced Leopard the same day they released Tiger. I have been patient, but this just frustrates me to high heaven.


What would happen if I tried plugging an iPod touch into my machine?

EssentialParado
Sep 5, 2007, 07:35 PM
The main reason I'm pissed off at Apple is because they support both the current and the previous version of Windows, but not the previous version of OS X. What is the world coming to?

torchwood04
Sep 5, 2007, 08:08 PM
Well, Vista was like just released early this year, and Tiger was released back in 2005. Panther users have had 2 years to migrate, while XP users have had 9 months..

EssentialParado
Sep 5, 2007, 08:12 PM
Well, Vista was like just released early this year, and Tiger was released back in 2005. Panther users have had 2 years to migrate, while XP users have had 9 months..
That's not the point, OS X is Apple's OS. They're giving support to 99.9% of Windows users, why can't they do the same for their Mac userbase?

iTunes 7.4 works for 10.3, so I don't see why the iPods can't.

torchwood04
Sep 5, 2007, 08:14 PM
Yeah, I can understand that, Apple could have dropped Panther after Leopard is released, and I think they should have done that, given Apple's usual treatment of supporting at least two OS' at a time..

EssentialParado
Sep 5, 2007, 08:41 PM
I've just ordered my iPod touch. If it doesn't work I'll just have to borrow a Tiger install disc from work. Piracy disgusts me, but Apple are twisting my arm. I'll just have to buy Leopard on day of release to get it back off my system as soon as possible.

torchwood04
Sep 5, 2007, 09:14 PM
I hate to say it, but since the iPhone does not work with 10.3, and the touch is basically the same thing, I think it will still require 10.4.10 (which added iPhone communication support?). I think only the new shuffle may unofficially run on Panther (as new version is basically just new colors right?).

Anyway, it does not hurt trying, does it?

KurtangleTN
Sep 5, 2007, 09:18 PM
It's kind of a puzzling move. Apple is abandoning a bit under 25% of it's OS X user-base with Panther users when they released these new iPods (WWDC said 25% were running Panther) yet because I don't want to pay for a couple of new features I can't run the new iPod?

iMikeT
Sep 6, 2007, 04:45 AM
lol

There is no difference.


You need to understand that because of the Leopard delay that some of us cannot enjoy Apple's new technologies.:rolleyes:

iMikeT
Sep 6, 2007, 04:49 AM
Re:New iPods with Panther-okay, no offense, but if you're still using Panther on your main machine, you've had over 2 years to upgrade to Tiger, besides, Apple will likely be discontinuing security updates for Panther anytime now. And, if you're waiting for Leopard, I think one can last 4 weeks without an iPod to sync..

(Please don't kill me; Just my OPINION)


Some of us upgrade every other major release.:cool:

Your useless opinion has been noted.:p

iMikeT
Sep 6, 2007, 04:55 AM
That's not the point, OS X is Apple's OS. They're giving support to 99.9% of Windows users, why can't they do the same for their Mac userbase?


Keep in mind that 99.9% of iPod owners are Windoze users.;)


iTunes 7.4 works for 10.3, so I don't see why the iPods can't.


I agree with your point here. If the software can work with the old operating system, why not the hardware?

iMikeT
Sep 6, 2007, 04:59 AM
I called Apple about this and asked that if I were to purchase Tiger this close to Leopard's release that if they would be able to give me some sort of credit towards Leopard. Their simple answer.... "We cannot say yes or no at the moment as we have yet to hear any announcements regarding this issue."

torchwood04
Sep 6, 2007, 07:41 AM
Some of us upgrade every other major release.:cool:

Your useless opinion has been noted.:p
Well, in that case, you will only have to wait like 6 weeks then. I can go 6 weeks without an iPod..

ItalianIce
Sep 6, 2007, 07:58 AM
Can anyone confirm at this point that the OS requirement for the new iPod classic is not just a bluff by apple?

EssentialParado
Sep 6, 2007, 04:26 PM
I just got the prompt to download iTunes 7.4: "adds new iPod shuffle, iPod Nano, iPod classic and iPod touch support to iTunes" - err… so apparently it should work fine.

If I plug in my iPod and it says I'm not using 10.4, I am assuming all I'd need to do is spoof the iPod into thinking I'm running 10.4. I have the software required for the iPod. It works on 10.3.

I wish someone with one of the new iPods would be able to test it on a 10.3 machine.:(

iMikeT
Sep 6, 2007, 08:18 PM
Well, in that case, you will only have to wait like 6 weeks then. I can go 6 weeks without an iPod..


Yeah, I know I have to and it sucks.:(

torchwood04
Sep 6, 2007, 08:32 PM
I do have 10.3 lying around somewhere, I can test it with my new shuffle that's due to arrive soon. There should be NO reason why the new shuffle colors will not work with 10.4, they only added new colors, no hardware changes IIRC from the January 2007 refresh, or even from September 2006, so that in my opinion is ridiculous ugh..

EssentialParado
Sep 7, 2007, 04:46 PM
I do have 10.3 lying around somewhere, I can test it with my new shuffle that's due to arrive soon. There should be NO reason why the new shuffle colors will not work with 10.4, they only added new colors, no hardware changes IIRC from the January 2007 refresh, or even from September 2006, so that in my opinion is ridiculous ugh..

Thanks, but it may not be necessary. I'm sure you saw the new topic, Doh! My new nano won't work with my Mac!

Very sad indeed :(