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Cosmoza
Sep 9, 2007, 04:21 AM
Currently have Ati Radeon 9200 (mac edition, PCI) on my Powermac G4 800mhz, but i am wondering if could update it to support more i.e. upcoming Leopard-supported graphics. Currently running OS X Tiger 10.4.10.

Is there any option for such a old G4? AGP-card naturally would be faster.



spinne1
Sep 9, 2007, 08:48 AM
Currently have Ati Radeon 9200 (mac edition, PCI) on my Powermac G4 800mhz, but i am wondering if could update it to support more i.e. upcoming Leopard-supported graphics. Currently running OS X Tiger 10.4.10.

Is there any option for such a old G4? AGP-card naturally would be faster.

I believe the best card available is the Radeon 9800 2x/4x AGP (which I have). Is it much better than the 9200? I don't really know, but for general use I don't think so. I would hold off until Leopard is installed on your computer. It may be that both cards do not support Leopard's features.

AlexMaximus
Sep 9, 2007, 06:16 PM
Currently have Ati Radeon 9200 (mac edition, PCI) on my Powermac G4 800mhz, but i am wondering if could update it to support more i.e. upcoming Leopard-supported graphics. Currently running OS X Tiger 10.4.10.

Is there any option for such a old G4? AGP-card naturally would be faster.

Hi there,

for the G4 you have the following options:
ATI Radeon 9600 256MB, ATI Radoin 9700 128MB, ATI Radeon 9800 256MB, and Geforce 4Ti 128 MB. These are the traditional choices you have. If you want to connect two 23' displayse at once or one 30' Apple display, you can only use the ATI Radon 9600 or the build to order Geforce 4Ti.
If you don't need the dual screen option or want to hook up to apples mega 30' screen, then your best bet is indeed the Radoen 9800 mentioned above.
This version is available also in a 128MB version by the way.
Two more things you want to know: The Radeon 9800 is a really "hot baby". If you go for this card you will most likely increase your internal temperature. If you operate already on the ege temperauture wise I would still got with the 9600.
The point you mentiond regarding Leopard, these cards will support Leoplard on the velocity engine.

All right, these cards mentioned above are build to order cards or original cards. There are ebay shops you can get them. In case you are more "experimental" you can go also with flashed pc cards. There are even better choices available, however they are not "Apple original".
These cards are Radeon 800 XT and Geforce 7800 GS as long as I know.

Happy choice!
:apple:

Cosmoza
Sep 9, 2007, 11:47 PM
Hi there,

for the G4 you have the following options:
ATI Radeon 9600 256MB, ATI Radoin 9700 128MB, ATI Radeon 9800 256MB, and Geforce 4Ti 128 MB. These are the traditional choices you have. If you want to connect two 23' displayse at once or one 30' Apple display, you can only use the ATI Radon 9600 or the build to order Geforce 4Ti.
If you don't need the dual screen option or want to hook up to apples mega 30' screen, then your best bet is indeed the Radoen 9800 mentioned above.
This version is available also in a 128MB version by the way.
Two more things you want to know: The Radeon 9800 is a really "hot baby". If you go for this card you will most likely increase your internal temperature. If you operate already on the ege temperauture wise I would still got with the 9600.
The point you mentiond regarding Leopard, these cards will support Leoplard on the velocity engine.

All right, these cards mentioned above are build to order cards or original cards. There are ebay shops you can get them. In case you are more "experimental" you can go also with flashed pc cards. There are even better choices available, however they are not "Apple original".
These cards are Radeon 800 XT and Geforce 7800 GS as long as I know.

Happy choice!
:apple:

Thanks for the replies. I think i'll go with the Radeon 9800 Pro, if i can found one. Would rather have the Mac edition, but the prices go thru the roof compared to the PC cards. I quess i'll just have to flash one then, shouldn't be that difficult.
Thanks!

quasinormal
Jan 27, 2008, 08:12 PM
Hi, my first post. Rather than start a new thread, I thought it better to post in this one.

I need a new graphics card for my PM Dual 1.42Ghz FW800. As mentioned above the choices are the 4600 Ti, the 9700 Pro or the 9800 Pro.

I already have a 4600 Ti which I am quite happy with as I don't have heavy graphic requirements, but this was borrowed from my 2001 Quicksilver and I want to put it back in there. I'd buy another 4600 Ti, especially as it has an ADC port for my Apple display, but I am concerned the full width card has a detrimental effect on heat build up in the MDD. Is this an issue?

Between the 9700 and the 9800 i am favouring the 9700 as I have heard it runs cooler than the 9800. Would I be silly passing up the superior performance of the 9800 in favour of the supposedly cooler 9700?

Also, what should be careful about in buying the 9700 or 9800 cards. Are the 9700's available with VGA and DVI ports flashed versions?

Any information would be gratefully appreciated.

OrangeSVTguy
Jan 27, 2008, 11:04 PM
Thanks for the replies. I think i'll go with the Radeon 9800 Pro, if i can found one. Would rather have the Mac edition, but the prices go thru the roof compared to the PC cards. I quess i'll just have to flash one then, shouldn't be that difficult.
Thanks!


i got a PC 256mb 9800 pro for $50 on ebay. i flashed it using my mac(which is very easy. if you need any help, i'll be glad to assist). just make sure you up the cooling on your mac. i was getting kernal panics when i had my case closed but was fine when i had my case open and a 120mm fan blowing over it. i also tried to place a bigger heat sink on it but that ended in failure from lack of proper contact. get an ati arctic cooler which will cost you about $20-30 so you can protect your investment. i since then modified my g4 with additional fans to bring in more cooler air so when i get another one, i'll be prepared.