10.4.11 Builds 8S151/8S2151 Distributed For Testing

[MacRumors]

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Think Secret notes that last week Apple distributed Mac OS 10.4.11 build 8S151/8S2151 for PPC and Intel (http://notes.thinksecret.com/secretnotes/0709macosx10411note.shtml).

Builds 8S151 (PowerPC) and 8S2151 (Intel) feature a handful of additional fixes, including ones targeted at system hangs at shutdown when unmounting an NFS volume, audio drift glitches, incorrect size reporting on Sun Mass Storage Devices, and more.
However, the site notes that a handful of known issues indicates the build is still a few weeks away at best from general distribution.

Article Link (http://www.macrumors.com/2007/09/10/10-4-11-builds-8s151-8s2151-distributed-for-testing/)

[Eidorian]

Alright NFS fixes!

[CJD2112]

Hmmmm, a few weeks away eh. I wonder if that means Leopard won't be released till the very end of October, like the iPhone.

[brianus]

Thank god it mentions the audio drift thing, dunno how much longer I can take my sound effects getting all screwed up and combined

[Ha ze]

Hmmmm, a few weeks away eh. I wonder if that means Leopard won't be released till the very end of October, like the iPhone.

My guess would be either October 25th (tuesday) or 28th (friday) and this is of course if everything goes well and it doesn't miss it's launch date again. recently it seems like Apple as said coming in [insert month] and doesn't get it shipped till nearly the last day of the month, AppleTv, iPhone, and now the iPod Touch. Seams clear to me that this will be a last day of the month item too,

[ATG]

Hmmmm, a few weeks away eh. I wonder if that means Leopard won't be released till the very end of October, like the iPhone.
The 10.4.11 release is entirely separate from the 10.5 release. I'm sure any delays in its release are due to extra bugs to fix, and not anything to do with 10.5.

[seashellz]

Hmmmm....last report said it was virtually ready for release any minute...

[lancestraz]

Alright NFS fixes!
Finally. This is such a pain in the *** right now.

[Mgkwho]

Oh! Audio drifting fixes...good! I was just noticing that preview wasn't sounding every time I dragged a picture off the tray; same with emptying trash. Which, of course, has happened before.

-=|Mgkwho

[Eidorian]

Finally. This is such a pain in the *** right now.Quite true for my NFS mounting home directory users.

e.g. ME

[iBunny]

If I wanted to get a copy of this, where could I go?

Or, does anyone have a copy of 10.4.11 8S2151 (Intel). I would like to try it now for the hell of it.

[thejadedmonkey]

Hmmmm....last report said it was virtually ready for release any minute...

Maybe they're trying to make sure that this is the last 10.4 update

[Peace]

If I wanted to get a copy of this, where could I go?

Or, does anyone have a copy of 10.4.11 8S2151 (Intel). I would like to try it now for the hell of it.

http://developer.apple.com

Pay $500 for the Select membership or $3499 for the Premier membership.
Any other way of getting it is pirating and not acceptable.

[twoodcc]

Hmmmm, a few weeks away eh. I wonder if that means Leopard won't be released till the very end of October, like the iPhone.

i sure hope not. but we'll see. october is just around the corner!

[bousozoku]

If I wanted to get a copy of this, where could I go?

Or, does anyone have a copy of 10.4.11 8S2151 (Intel). I would like to try it now for the hell of it.

You should know better than to ask such a question because there is only one legal answer.

[iBunny]

You should know better than to ask such a question because there is only one legal answer.

Got it. I figured because it was for testing I could test it? Which is pretty much the honest answer.

[bousozoku]

Got it. I figured because it was for testing I could test it? Which is pretty much the honest answer.

Apple want to keep any of those releases under wraps. Even developers are told not to use them on production systems because data loss is likely. Sometimes, you can't upgrade to the real release and have to format and start over.

Most people don't want to contend with the mess, but I totally understand the desire to see it early.

[Nermal]

However, the site notes that a handful of known issues indicates the build is still a few weeks away at best from general distribution.

The previous seed notes said that it added support for new NZ daylight saving rules. They come into effect in just under 3 weeks, so the update needs to be out and about before then if Apple doesn't want a whole bunch of "my clock is wrong" support calls. Considering that SU only checks for updates once per week, that gives them just 12 days to get this update out there!

[bousozoku]

The previous seed notes said that it added support for new NZ daylight saving rules. They come into effect in just under 3 weeks, so the update needs to be out and about before then if Apple doesn't want a whole bunch of "my clock is wrong" support calls. Considering that SU only checks for updates once per week, that gives them just 12 days to get this update out there!

Sure, but it could also be released as a separate update to give them more time to finish 10.4.11.

[Nermal]

That's a possibility (and will hopefully do 10.3 too).

[arkmannj]

That's a possibility (and will hopefully do 10.3 too).

What is this 10.3 you speak of ? . . . oh that old panther OS.... j/k :p

<random>
Ya know one of my odd little quarks is that even though I know I'll buy the upgraded/new OS I always make a backup disk of all updates pertaining to an old OS version and put it with the install CD's... just in case we have a nuke-war, all of Apple's update servers are down and I happen to need an older OS I guess lol.
</random>

[rosh325]

Bleh, where's support for the fact that 10.4.10 and subsequent airport updates crippled my airport with linksys routers. Have sent bug reports, still listed as "pending"

Not to say I'm the only one:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=328087

[mkrishnan]

Got it. I figured because it was for testing I could test it? Which is pretty much the honest answer.

You can. But if you're a tester, that's development activity, and you need a development license. ;)

[mountainbiker80]

If I wanted to get a copy of this, where could I go?

Or, does anyone have a copy of 10.4.11 8S2151 (Intel). I would like to try it now for the hell of it.

That's what I did...I couldn't wait any longer to get Leopard. Its all under non-disclosure. They don't even have a forum for those with legitimate access to discuss their findings. And findings there are!

Got it. I figured because it was for testing I could test it? Which is pretty much the honest answer.

You could always convince your boss to pass the $500 fee and get a year's access to the seeds and to Panther...on the premise that you need to be sure to submit as many bugs as possible so that moving the office machines (only 10% of our boxes are Mac) to 10.5 is as smooth as possible. :D

Worked for me. ;) And to be honest, so far, its money WELL spent.

[Klaus1]

That's what I did...I couldn't wait any longer to get Leopard. Its all under non-disclosure. They don't even have a forum for those with legitimate access to discuss their findings. And findings there are!.

Yes, it is obviously under non-disclosure and if you had a genuine copy of 10.4.11 (assuming for the purpose of this discussion that it exists) or even Leopard you would be a beta-tester with Apple, which is by invitation only.

The fact that you state in error that there is no Apple forum to discuss seeded betas proves that you are not a genuine beta tester. If you were you would have access to it.

[Peace]

Yes, it is obviously under non-disclosure and if you had a genuine copy of 10.4.11 (assuming for the purpose of this discussion that it exists) or even Leopard you would be a beta-tester with Apple, which is by invitation only.

The fact that you state in error that there is no Apple forum to discuss seeded betas proves that you are not a genuine beta tester. If you were you would have access to it.

Please point it to me.I've been a Select member for 5 years and I've seen no discussions anywhere.

[jonnylink]

Bleh, where's support for the fact that 10.4.10 and subsequent airport updates crippled my airport with linksys routers.

You said it. I'm tired of updating in the hopes that my airport will work without hacks only to have to hack it all over again. If 10.4.11 doesn't do it I'm gonna go fisty-cuffs with Steve J

[gusapple]

Hmmmm, a few weeks away eh. I wonder if that means Leopard won't be released till the very end of October, like the iPhone.

Oh yeah! There is no way we are getting Leopard before then. I am pegging the 30th of October as the day of Leopard's release. It is the most logical thing, but at least it's not 2 years late!

[bousozoku]

Yes, it is obviously under non-disclosure and if you had a genuine copy of 10.4.11 (assuming for the purpose of this discussion that it exists) or even Leopard you would be a beta-tester with Apple, which is by invitation only.

The fact that you state in error that there is no Apple forum to discuss seeded betas proves that you are not a genuine beta tester. If you were you would have access to it.

I had a Select membership since the Mac OS X public beta and there never was any indication of discussion forums from ADC. I'd think that it was a Premier-only feature but as I recall, they didn't mention it in the membership description.

So, the question is, where are these forums?

[Steven1621]

You said it. I'm tired of updating in the hopes that my airport will work without hacks only to have to hack it all over again. If 10.4.11 doesn't do it I'm gonna go fisty-cuffs with Steve J

Have any developers tried this update on their broken macbooks? Will it finally fix the wifi? (or is this something you can't share due to your NDA? :rolleyes:)

[seashellz]

Question:
I have the Apple grey discs that came with my iMac, 10.4.9;
will I be able to update to 10.5 with a new 10.5 (grey) system disc, or do I have to go buy a black box skeleton update.
what does apple charge for updates?

[mkrishnan]

Question:
I have the Apple grey discs that came with my iMac, 10.4.9;
will I be able to update to 10.5 with a new 10.5 (grey) system disc, or do I have to go buy a black box skeleton update.
what does apple charge for updates?

I don't understand what a "black box skeleton update" is, but the grey system restore discs are generally only usable on the model they shipped with. So no, you won't be able to get system restore discs from another Mac after 10.5 comes out and use them.

All retail copies of OS X are full installation copies, meaning they allow but do not require you to overwrite an existing installation (you can install onto a blank newly formatted drive). They typically cost $129US for American retail buyers and $69US for American educational buyers.

[Nermal]

Question:
I have the Apple grey discs that came with my iMac, 10.4.9;
will I be able to update to 10.5 with a new 10.5 (grey) system disc, or do I have to go buy a black box skeleton update.
what does apple charge for updates?

You buy and install a black version, then you can add the bundled software from your existing grey version.

[MikeTheC]

Personally, my wish list includes iSync support for my Samsung M610.

Other than that, bug and/or security fixes aside... I'm good.

[iriejedi]

Alright NFS fixes!

I can't believe this patch will stop all those bank charges for bounced checks.... oh wait that would be NSF fixes... my bad....

well any upgrade is good in my book.... excluding Vista of course!