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[wdlove]

Yes, thank you. I saw it when I visited apple.com today. It gave me an excited feeling. Now I don't know if I can wait for Rev B or not. A lot depends on circumstances. Must be patient.

[redAPPLE]

well, i am happy for all the people who have ordered the mean machines.

i envy you all somehow. my g4 has to keep me floating.

am actually waiting for a g5 pb. :D

[bobindashadows]

Originally posted by redAPPLE

well, i am happy for all the people who have ordered the mean machines.

i envy you all somehow. my g4 has to keep me floating.

am actually waiting for a g5 pb. :D

Thanks :D My dad ordered a 1.6, with a combo drive to save money, and without a few other useless things.It's for work, but at least I get to play with it D

[ibookin']

Nice. Time to go see them at my local Apple Store. Too bad I have to wait until mid-week. Or maybe I don't, I'll call them today.

[Sonofhaig]

Originally posted by bobindashadows
Thanks :D My dad ordered a 1.6, with a combo drive to save money, and without a few other useless things.It's for work, but at least I get to play with it D

Don't they all come standard with a Superdrive? Can you get a "downgrade" to save money? How much of a savings could it be? Personally, I'd have gotten the superdrive. Burning to DVD will be the standard of the future if you ask me..... Either way, enjoy your new mac. :D

[erockerboy]

Originally posted by wdlove
Yes, thank you. I saw it when I visited apple.com today. It gave me an excited feeling. Now I don't know if I can wait for Rev B or not. A lot depends on circumstances. Must be patient.

Any word at all on what enhancements we might expect on the Rev B machines???

[Chaszmyr]

That link points to DVD Studio Pro...

[fixed]

[Powerbook G5]

Yep, you can get it without a Superdrive to save about $200, but I agree that having DVD burning+iDVD will help with that extra measure of future proofing (plus another nifty gadget to play with)

[scem0]

yay, can't wait to see one in person.

Maybe it won't look as bad in real life.

scem0

[Stella]

How the bloody hell can this be a negative story????!!!
Apple said they were shipping in August and have fulfilled their promise.

You would expect limited quantities to beging with...

[twentyeight7]

has any ones actualy shipped???


mine still says 9/30

[adamfilip]

okay so now they are shipping.. i wonder where we will see the first online review with benchmarks.. anyone?

[MacsRgr8]

Yep, with 10.2.7

I wonder when it will turn up in our Software Update.

[mxpiazza]

Originally posted by twentyeight7
has any ones actualy shipped???


mine still says 9/30
what is your config and date of ordered? i have a BTO dual ordered on 6/24, which is shipping on or before 8/29... with express overnite shipping, next saturday, my dual g5 will be here! muha! i'm off to comp usa to see if they have an in-store demo i can play with, and possibly take pictures with on my zire 71... i'll let ya'll know. peace.

edit: fyi, i ordered mine without a DVD burner just because the faster i can pay this thing off, the better. and in all of apple's articles and things, it is always pointed out that 'even the superdrive is accessible for easy removal'. so i ordered extra ram from crucial because apple rips you on that as well, and i'll throw in my own superdrive as soon as i pay off my credit card and i can scrape the cash together. bottom line... we're getting g5's here, people!

[allpar]

Not ordering the Superdrive is actually a pretty good idea on machins that can handle dual optical drives. You get the Combo drive and $200, and Superdrives are now selling at around $185...save $15 and get a free CD-writing DVD player! Or wait a year and they'll probably be about $100. If you're short on cash, and buying a new Mac will do that to you, $200 is nothing to sneeze at.

[mxpiazza]

Originally posted by MacsRgr8
Yep, with 10.2.7

I wonder when it will turn up in our Software Update.
10.2.7 for all non-g5 systems will be 'blackrider', not the same 10.2.7 'smeagol' shipping on the g5's. 10.2.7 will be in software update when the powerbook rev's are officially announced.

[lynnpye]

Well, my wife is just starting her video production business. She is working with an iMac and only just this weekend upgraded to 1 GB RAM (as opposed to the 256 she had stock).

However, she just got her first paying gig (donations of time and effort to charities provide GREAT PR for startups with that option) and now has 1-3 more on the horizon. As a result, SHE broached the subject of an upgrade to me. Heh...unfathomable G5 goodness nestled by her desk. *drool*

Suddenly my 15" TiBook (800 Mhz G4) isn't looking so hot anymore.

[Dahl]

Is it only though Apple that you can get rid of features ?
I have seen it with some resellers, but not as much as Apple is doing it.
I really don't want a modem, it's only $30 you save, but still.

[yoshi1013]

It's disgusting how the box it ships in looks. It sits there to merely torment me and remind me of how much longer I have to wait.

May have to bring a small bucket with me to the stores so my drool doesn't spill on the floor.

[trilogic]

Looking at the pic on apple.com I wonder if the G5 shipping box really has a transparent window?

:D

No dell costumer would wonder if his shipping box had a transparent window or not. :rolleyes:

[bankshot]

Originally posted by Stella
How the bloody hell can this be a negative story????!!!

I didn't vote either way, but there are a couple of plausible reasons:

1. You're not getting one and are very jealous of those who are. :p

2. You don't believe they're really shipping.

3. You're miffed that the dualies aren't shipping yet.

4. You were hoping Apple would beat expectations and ship in early July!

5. You just like messing with people... :D

I find it amusing when people complain about negative votes, implying that any hopeful/promising rumors should be 100% positive because we should all love Apple unconditionally. :rolleyes: Even the most exciting rumors can get negative votes simply because you don't believe it's really true, and that's a perfectly valid interpretation. What's wrong with that? :confused:

Regardless, it's all good. I'm glad those of you who are getting new machines will finally have them soon. For myself, my 733 G4 and 600 iBook will do just fine for a couple more years. By then, my new dual 5 GHz G5 with 32 GB memory will beat the pants off your shiny dual 2.0s. Oh, and it'll be a PowerBook.... :cool:

[trilogic]

Originally posted by Dahl
Is it only though Apple that you can get rid of features ?
I have seen it with some resellers, but not as much as Apple is doing it.
I really don't want a modem, it's only $30 you save, but still.

when I ordered my dual G5 I made it BTO without modem. but then I thought about the fax feature and that I can't fax over DSL. So I changed my order to a Standard Dual G5, 2 days later. I might be further back in the waiting queue now. :mad:

[saint.duo]

I don't know about all of the resellers, but where I work, any configuration you can do to a machine on the Apple online store, we can do too. We just order it from Apple the way you want it.

Originally posted by Dahl
Is it only though Apple that you can get rid of features ?
I have seen it with some resellers, but not as much as Apple is doing it.
I really don't want a modem, it's only $30 you save, but still.

[edenwaith]

Originally posted by lynnpye


Suddenly my 15" TiBook (800 Mhz G4) isn't looking so hot anymore.

If you are looking for someone to take that awful Powerbook off your hands, I'll do it. I won't even charge you anything!

Well, compared to my main machine, 800 MHz is looking none-too-shabby. My main system is a 400 MHz G4 PowerMac...it's decent most of the time, but I certainly wouldn't say 'no' to a new G5. I love seeing Apple's new revolutions, instead of just the slow evolutions...so when is the new kick-butt iBooks going to surface? My guess is that they won't surface until (if) the Powerbooks are equipped with a G5.

[holy MAC!]

hey.
i posted this first on both macbyte and macrumors forum....

do i get any props Arn????

hehe

[rickvanr]

Originally posted by trilogic
Looking at the pic on apple.com I wonder if the G5 shipping box really has a transparent window?

:D

No dell costumer would wonder if his shipping box had a transparent window or not. :rolleyes:

it appears to just be a picture on the box to me. And also, for shipping, every mac ive gotten is safely rapped in styrofoam

[mxpiazza]

Originally posted by holy MAC!
hey.
i posted this first on both macbyte and macrumors forum....

do i get any props Arn????

hehe
i'm not arn, but props. i went over to the apple webiste and saw that, then immediatley rushed back here so i could submit it, but alas, already done :) none of my submits are ever deemed worthy, or i'm just too late!

[gothamac]

Originally posted by rickvanr
it appears to just be a picture on the box to me. And also, for shipping, every mac ive gotten is safely rapped in styrofoam

I think he's mistaking the handles for an oval window.

[JtheLemur]

Dammit, I want my Dual. Who cares about the single proc models? NO ONE, that's who! =)

[jywv8]

I order my dual a few days ago. Estimated ship date: On or before 10/24. Argh.

[zedwards]

Originally posted by lynnpye


Suddenly my 15" TiBook (800 Mhz G4) isn't looking so hot anymore.

Yeah, whatever! :rolleyes:

[whatever]

Originally posted by trilogic
Looking at the pic on apple.com I wonder if the G5 shipping box really has a transparent window?

:D

No dell costumer would wonder if his shipping box had a transparent window or not. :rolleyes:

You must be joking. There is no transparent window on the box.

[esheep2001]

Ah, but the burning question is, will there be 10.3 upgrade coupons inside those smart looking boxes?

[Bendit]

Originally posted by trilogic
Looking at the pic on apple.com I wonder if the G5 shipping box really has a transparent window?

:D

No dell costumer would wonder if his shipping box had a transparent window or not. :rolleyes:

Where do you see a window on that box?

[nagromme]

If demand is beyond expectations on the dual 2.0s, then putting the single CPUS in stores now makes good sense, to move those units and take some heat off the duals.

[holy MAC!]

Originally posted by nagromme
If demand is beyond expectations on the dual 2.0s, then putting the single CPUS in stores now makes good sense, to move those units and take some heat off the duals.

i do not see how that can be good:

because if someone switches from the dual to a single, they will still only buy X amounts of g5s.

so apple will lose dough per pop.

[redAPPLE]

Originally posted by allpar
Not ordering the Superdrive is actually a pretty good idea on machins that can handle dual optical drives. You get the Combo drive and $200, and Superdrives are now selling at around $185...

does anyone know, what the superdrives minimal requirement is?

[twentyeight7]

i jsut called apple about my status (a 2ghz) he said that they stat shippin next week and i think he was hiting my will ship in 2 weeks i orderd on 7/23 .... i like the way that sounds

[grouse]

>>Dammit, I want my Dual. Who cares about the single proc models? NO ONE, that's who! =)

Dual 2Ghz mega-super etc....

But for my business, graphics and high-end photoshop work, I can't really justify it. Quark and Indesign won't need dual 8GB RAM etc; and neither for nearly all the time will Photoshop. And with Adobe quoted as improving the speeds in PS by upto 200% for the 64 bit architecture, I am wondering what on earth high-end video development £d rendering, Pixar-style stuff are all you folks about to be doing?????

I'm down for two 1.6 ones, and a cheap new G4 (which I notice Apple are still cannily manufacturing to plug the hole at the bottom end (as it were) and a 1.8.

As replacements for our 7600; G3 beige, G4 450 (which for reasons beyond anyone in the apple universe, won't install 10.2, and a G3 over-clocked blue, they'll make all my colleagues happy bunnies and I'll keep the change.:confused:

[SilentPanda]

Mine isn't shipping... granted... I never ordered one.. but it sure would be nice if they e-mailed me telling me they were going to ship me one... *hint hint*

[Mudbug]

Well, we're midway through the day today, and so far noone has posted either receiving their box being shipped to them, nor has anyone said they've gone to the store and checked them out. Is Apple telling the truth here, or are we all (myself included) just too busy to do anything about it on a monday morning?

[MattG]

"Now Shipping" my ass. I'm sorry, but when Apple does stuff like this it bothers me. How can they say "now shipping" when you can go and put a G5 in your shopping cart and it says "4-6 weeks?" That's pretty misleading.

I ordered mine a month ago, and there are people who ordered theirs before that, and THEY don't even have theirs yet. And now Apple puts an ad on there website as if people who ordered one right now would have them shipped out today or something!

[spaz]

matt, it's not misleading. the press release says they are shipping the single-processor machines, starting today. that doesn't mean everyone who orders one today is getting it right away, nor is that insinuated. anyone who ordered one previously knows when it's coming because it's on their Order Status.

now if they'd just ship my 2Ghz dual machine i'd be in heaven...

[mactastic]

I wonder if any of the stores have gotten their shipments yet.

[henryblackman]

Originally posted by MattG
"Now Shipping" my ass. I'm sorry, but when Apple does stuff like this it bothers me. How can they say "now shipping" when you can go and put a G5 in your shopping cart and it says "4-6 weeks?" That's pretty misleading.


There's plenty of time for Apple to change that today. Let's face it it can say 4-6 weeks, but get shipped tomorrow. Plenty of times I've ordered stuff and had it shipped much sooner than expected. Alas, no G5 order though.

Also, just because no one on this board has mentioned it has shipped to them, doesn't mean Apple hasn't shipped any. Just no one's here!

Chill out.

[ZeppelinArmada]

A fellow checked his order in the apple store today, a Dual 2Ghz, and the ship date had been changed to early September , from early December. He came in hoping to see one of the floor models.

One: he is telling the truth, which kinda bugs me as my ship date is still October 3.

Two: He is confused about which tower he ordered.

Three: He is making it all up.

I didn't see the actual order screen, as peering wide eyed over a customer at his financial information just isn't good manners.

But I wish I had anyway.

[FredSpeaks]

I have a 1.8 with an order date & time of 06/23/2003, 01:11 PM PST that is still open. I hope to get a confirmation email that it is shipping soon, or that the store changes the status

[insidedanshead]

What is really baffling me is that Steve said we'd be to 3Ghz by years end. How is that possible if they are still filling 2Ghz orders in DECEMBER? I hear the sounds of a broken promise.. anyone else?

[sanford]

Originally posted by insidedanshead
What is really baffling me is that Steve said we'd be to 3Ghz by years end. How is that possible if they are still filling 2Ghz orders in DECEMBER? I hear the sounds of a broken promise.. anyone else?

In a *year*. Not by the end of the *calendar* year.

[machan]

steve said 3 ghz next year around this time, not this year.

[evilfunkgenius]

Anyone see anything about new keyboards, mice, or bluetooth goodies added to the pot?? (Looks to me like they are shipping with the ugly eMac keyboards...) :(

[sososowhat]

He might have meant they're in the back room, but the guy on the phone wasn't all that forthcoming about when they would have them on display.

I guess shipping still means what the dictionary says it means, even if you're an Apple Store.

[ImAlwaysRight]

Originally posted by ZeppelinArmada
A fellow checked his order in the apple store today, a Dual 2Ghz, and the ship date had been changed to early September , from early December.

New dual 2.0 orders now are getting "on or before" end of Oct. That is consistant with Apple's website which says 7-10 weeks shipping time. I'm sorry to say, but your "friend" is messin' with ya. No way he would have got an early Dec.

Originally posted by insidedanshead
What is really baffling me is that Steve said we'd be to 3Ghz by years end. How is that possible if they are still filling 2Ghz orders in DECEMBER? I hear the sounds of a broken promise.. anyone else?

Now we know why all these threads get so many negative votes. People are a little :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Captnroger]

Nothing here yet at the Apple store in Easton Town Centre (Ohio). If they are truly 'now shipping' they should be in stores tomorrow since Apple ships new product via FedEx.

[Foxer]

Man, I just want one of those boxes! My ship date (for a dual) remains the end of the month.

[Multimedia]

Originally posted by allpar
Not ordering the Superdrive is actually a pretty good idea on machins that can handle dual optical drives. You get the Combo drive and $200, and Superdrives are now selling at around $185...save $15 and get a free CD-writing DVD player! Or wait a year and they'll probably be about $100. If you're short on cash, and buying a new Mac will do that to you, $200 is nothing to sneeze at. Pioneer DVR-105 is down to $143 now. But the SuperDrive in the G5 is not a Pioneer DVR-105. It's a SONY I don't know what model number yet. And yes it's wise to order the Combo because you save $200 and you get a free Combo when you swap it out for a SuperDrive you buy aftermarket for less than $200.

Then just throw the Combo in a FireWire case and you're all set with two drives that both read DVDs and CDs so copying is not a problem in either format with Toast 6.

[Multimedia]

OK It's Shipping (theoretically) When Is It Delivering?

I see no evidence it is shipping because no one has reported a delivery and even the Apple Stores near Cupertino have no clue when they are going to get any.

[iJon]

if you guys want, post picture and application requests and i will fullfill them as soon as the g5 comes through the door.

iJon

[Multimedia]

Originally posted by iJon
if you guys want, post picture and application requests and i will fullfill them as soon as the g5 comes through the door.

iJon I want a 52x external Audio CD AIFF rip to 160kbps AAC file X factor report. What is the average X number (max-min) in the iTunes window over the length of several tracks?

If you have no such FW CD-RW drive, I'll settle for what it rips from the Internal SuperDrive (16x) or Combo (32x) Drive.

[sonicsessions]

They should be shipping (and I'd expect the dual 2ghz G5s are coming quite soon) due to Apple trying to charge my Apple Loan last night...
I'm just curious why they tacked on another 70 bucks for my G5 (i'm guessing another charge for shipping... I ordered an ipod at the same time... looks like I dropped a heap on shipping an ipod then). I'd get that question answered, but it appears that the folks at apple that handle order issues are in a meeting today... great timing.

[neier]

Originally posted by Multimedia
Pioneer DVR-105 is down to $143 now. But the SuperDrive in the G5 is not a Pioneer DVR-105. It's a SONY I don't know waht model number yet.

I briefly played with one at the local Yodobashi Camera (Japan) on Sunday. Seeing a Sony drive in it surprised me... I think the model was DWU 10 ??

[kaneda]

Okay, it doesn't make sense.

a Dual 2 ghz G5 is $2999

and a dual 1.25 ghz G4 is $3,274
it has added features...but over PRICE!

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/72001/wo/gqh2ynkxcFGC3oyDlDB2fasgzts/0.0.7.1.0.5.21.1.8.1.0.0.0.1.0

[Rocketman]

Originally posted by Captnroger
Nothing here yet at the Apple store in Easton Town Centre (Ohio). If they are truly 'now shipping' they should be in stores tomorrow since Apple ships new product via FedEx.

I would check Santa Monica, CA, Palo Alto, CA and Irvine, CA since they are often the first to get and display new products.

Rocketman

[Rocketman]

Originally posted by iJon
if you guys want, post picture and application requests and i will fullfill them as soon as the g5 comes through the door.

iJon

Okay. Tell me if it runs mac Draw II as well as Eudora and Newswatcher.

Older is better :)

Also some version of Autocad.

Rocketman

[twentyeight7]

ijohn if you could tell me how amny sec it takes to fill a 10"x 8" 600 dpi area with the paint can in photoshop old macs take 9 sec my PC takes 8

[soggywulf]

Originally posted by Multimedia
It's a SONY I don't know waht model number yet.

Do you know this for sure? Based on the specs, it looks like a Pioneer A06, not a Sony. +R/RW will prolly be disabled though. :(

[Multimedia]

Originally posted by kaneda
Okay, it doesn't make sense.

a Dual 2 ghz G5 is $2999

and a dual 1.25 ghz G4 is $3,274
it has added features...but over PRICE!

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/72001/wo/gqh2ynkxcFGC3oyDlDB2fasgzts/0.0.7.1.0.5.21.1.8.1.0.0.0.1.0 Dual 1.25 GHz is $1599 NOT $3274. Choose the single 1.25 and then switch the processor pop up to dual w/2MB L3 cache. $1599

[Multimedia]

Originally posted by soggywulf
Do you know this for sure? Based on the specs, it looks like a Pioneer A06, not a Sony. +R/RW will prolly be disabled though. :( I'm pretty sure it's a SONY. I read that somewhere. And it's verified above by the guy in Japan who discovered it on a G5 Sunday. You can tell it's not a DVR-105 because the specs are different in the details listed at the Apple Store MORE INFO section.

[mxpiazza]

Originally posted by iJon
if you guys want, post picture and application requests and i will fullfill them as soon as the g5 comes through the door.

iJon
what i am wondering, is if there is going to be a 10.3 coupon in there... that would help me more than anything else you'll tell me! hit me up when you know... just post here or PM me. thanks.

edit: also, could you check and see what the model number of the superdrive is?? thanks!

[Mudbug]

So we make it to 9:30 p.m. Central time and still noone with an announcement that they either a) got theirs, or b) went to the store and saw it on display. So are they still on the trucks?

[mxpiazza]

when someone gets their system, just go into 'about this mac' and check out the model number. it should be in there... no?

[adamfilip]

i tried that 10x8 @ 600 dpi paint bucket test.. but you didnt mention of the file is cmyk or rgb


in cmyk my athlon 1.4 takes 10.9 seconds with 512mb ram
in rgb it takes 10.1 seconds

[BrandonRP0123]

Originally posted by Dahl
Is it only though Apple that you can get rid of features ?
I have seen it with some resellers, but not as much as Apple is doing it.
I really don't want a modem, it's only $30 you save, but still.

I bought my Power Mac G4 (digital audio, 533Mhz) without a modem option. Last week when I was dusting it out I noticed It has the modem module in the back (screwed into a different position to hide the jack) and the cable going nowhere. If someone can show me a layout of this motherboard (like, where the modem connector lives because I can't seem to find it) I might have a free modem.

[mxpiazza]

update on the superdrive dealie... i'm almost 100% positive after a lot of investigation that apple is using the sony DW-U10A, which is the OEM version of the DRU-500A. it was sony's first muti-format dvd burner (i'm sure OS X just disables the dvd+r), and it retails for a shade over $200.

[BrandonRP0123]

Originally posted by Rocketman
I would check Santa Monica, CA, Palo Alto, CA and Irvine, CA since they are often the first to get and display new products.


Palo Alto has 1.6s in the back in boxes.

They're working after closing today to setup the new display.

[BrandonRP0123]

Originally posted by Multimedia
Dual 1.25 GHz is $1599 NOT $3274. Choose the single 1.25 and then switch the processor pop up to dual w/2MB L3 cache. $1599


Add the processor $300, sure.

Apple's offering a $3274 dual 1.25 with 2GB of RAM, SuperDrive, etc. In other words, loaded for that price he's talking about.

[BrandonRP0123]

A friend of mine near the Sacramento assembly line/plant reports that (what he saw) 14 FedEx trucks departed from there this morning (an average day sees about 8 trucks - 4 morning 4 afternoon trucks), and another 7 trucks in the afternoon.

[Multimedia]

Originally posted by Dahl
Is it only though Apple that you can get rid of features ?
I have seen it with some resellers, but not as much as Apple is doing it.
I really don't want a modem, it's only $30 you save, but still. I think there are two excellent reasons to keep the modem.

1. Backup dial-up access to internet in the event of broadband going down which it does from time to time.

2. FAX built into Panther will be a good reason to need that modem from time to time.

It is $30 well worth spending as insurance that you will be glad you did when either of these needs arise - and I am sure they will.

[Multimedia]

Originally posted by BrandonRP0123
Add the processor $300, sure.

Apple's offering a $3274 dual 1.25 with 2GB of RAM, SuperDrive, etc. In other words, loaded for that price he's talking about. I can add 1 GB RAM and a SuperDrive for $200. It is insane to load a Mac up at Apple's crazy add on prices. And mine has a Combo drive in the second bay.

[Multimedia]

Originally posted by BrandonRP0123
Palo Alto has 1.6s in the back in boxes.

They're working after closing today to setup the new display. I pointedly asked her about tomorrow or wednesday and she said NO. End of the week.

[Dahl]

Originally posted by Multimedia
I think there are two excellent reasons to keep the modem.

1. Backup dial-up access to internet in the event of broadband going down which it does from time to time.

2. FAX built into Panther will be a good reason to need that modem from time to time.

It is $30 well worth spending as insurance that you will be glad you did when either of these needs arise - and I am sure they will.
The fax feature might be ok, but I really don't need a back up modem ( knock on wood ). I have had cable modem for years and it has never been down for more than a day at the most.

[GregGomer]

Originally posted by BrandonRP0123
I bought my Power Mac G4 (digital audio, 533Mhz) without a modem option. Last week when I was dusting it out I noticed It has the modem module in the back (screwed into a different position to hide the jack) and the cable going nowhere. If someone can show me a layout of this motherboard (like, where the modem connector lives because I can't seem to find it) I might have a free modem.

Actually there is a card that you have to plug into the mother board, it's about the size of a credit card. The Modem jack runs to the Motherboard, which in turns routes it to that Modem Card. If you're modem port was covered, that just indicates that you don't have the modem card installed. They do that to make installing the modem easier, and not take a PCI slot. As well, they hide the modem jack so if you don't have a card you won't think you will, but leave the port on, cause you can always buy the modem card later to add it if you like.

[oeholmen]

Originally posted by trilogic
Looking at the pic on apple.com I wonder if the G5 shipping box really has a transparent window?

No, it just looks that way! I was fooled at first, too, but if you look closely at the box, you see that the transparent window is the edge of the G5! Weird... It really does look like a window on the box :eek:

[ImAlwaysRight]

Originally posted by mxpiazza
update on the superdrive dealie... i'm almost 100% positive after a lot of investigation that apple is using the sony DW-U10A, which is the OEM version of the DRU-500A. it was sony's first muti-format dvd burner (i'm sure OS X just disables the dvd+r), and it retails for a shade over $200.
But doesn't the Sony DVD writers all have 24x CD-R capability? Pioneers have 16x. The specs on Apple's website say 16x, which would indicated a Pioneer drive (plus Apple has used Pioneer's in the past). But, just get the combo drive and you can put whatever you want in.

Under OS 10.2.6, only the Pioneer A05/105 is supported natively. I think A06/106 and the Sony burners require the user to modify a file. I sure hope 10.2.7 and Panther support the Sony drives, cuz with faster CD-R speed, that is what I would like to put in. But only if supported by Apple. Otherwise I'll just save a few bucks and put in a Pioneer 105.

[soggywulf]

Originally posted by Multimedia
You can tell it's not a DVR-105 because the specs are different in the details listed at the Apple Store MORE INFO section.

Yeah, I know. The specs don't match any Sony drives either. But the specs match the Pioneer 106 exactly.

Originally posted by mxpiazza
update on the superdrive dealie... i'm almost 100% positive after a lot of investigation that apple is using the sony DW-U10A, which is the OEM version of the DRU-500A.

Well, some of the existing iMacs use this drive, but I don't see why it should be in the G5 as well?


Oh well, I guess we'll find out soon enough. I'm just sort of hoping beyond hope that +R is quietly enabled. :(

[kaneda]

Dual 1.25 GHz is $1599 NOT $3274. Choose the single 1.25 and then switch the processor pop up to dual w/2MB L3 cache. $1599

Look at Apple site...3200+ for G4 dual 1.25ghz.

[Foxer]

Originally posted by kaneda
Look at Apple site...3200+ for G4 dual 1.25ghz.

No. Choose the basic, single 1.25 and "customize" it. The dual processor adds only $300 to the price, making is $1599.

[macphisto]

That Apple is really shipping them. They just saying that they are "now shipping." Or else someone out there would have received an email from Apple saying,

"Your order has been processed and will be shipping today. Expected delivery is tomorrow AM."

My doubts have been cast. (we have two 1.6 on order and the order is still open) Anyone out there that can tell/show me otherwise?

[mxpiazza]

Originally posted by macphisto
That Apple is really shipping them. They just saying that they are "now shipping." Or else someone out there would have received an email from Apple saying,

"Your order has been processed and will be shipping today. Expected delivery is tomorrow AM."

My doubts have been cast. (we have two 1.6 on order and the order is still open) Anyone out there that can tell/show me otherwise?

when was your original order date, and what was your estimated date of devilery? apple WILL meet that date, i'm sure there are thousands before you on the list. just be patient, we're waited two months, a few more weeks won't KILL us.

[mikeh123]

Yes expect a week or two before people really start getting them in numbers.

In the UK the main distribution channel has nothing showing yet. (well there is that sept 9th guaranteed delivery date)
No stock coming in yet, also nothing from our dealer store orders yet.

[Foxer]

I called 1-800-apple today to modify my dual-2.0 order. I decided that I will transfer the AE card from my current machine and save myself a couple bucks. I call up and make the change. I check the website a while later and my ship date slipped from 8/29 to 10/30! Two months! They cancelled the existing order and replaced it with a new one. On top of that, they also changed my graphics chip from the 9800 to the 9600, so I'll have to deal with that too! I should have just left it the way it was.

Let this be a lesson to the rest of you...

[soggywulf]

Originally posted by Foxer
Let this be a lesson to the rest of you...

Ouch. Sorry to hear that. :( Yeah, this kind of thing is quite unfair. Give them a call again, when you tell them they screwed up the 9800, maybe you can get them to repent and put you back in your rightful place in the list.

[macphisto]

Originally posted by mxpiazza
when was your original order date, and what was your estimated date of devilery? apple WILL meet that date, i'm sure there are thousands before you on the list. just be patient, we're waited two months, a few more weeks won't KILL us.

Our original order date was that day (or the day after, I can't remember.) I know that it will ship by the date indicated on the order, but my point is, someone out there had to be the first, (other than a reseller that is) and as such should have got a confirmation email. That is all that I saying. :)

The stores all ways get the first shipments, then the rest of us.

[ColoJohnBoy]

So has anybody received theirs yet? I'd love to see some pics and an early review of the sucker. If there are any, can someone point me in their direction?

I've been lusting after a fully loaded Dual 2.0 GHz from the day they were introduced. Gimme gimme gimme!

[wdlove]

Originally posted by Foxer
I called 1-800-apple today to modify my dual-2.0 order. I decided that I will transfer the AE card from my current machine and save myself a couple bucks. I call up and make the change. I check the website a while later and my ship date slipped from 8/29 to 10/30! Two months! They cancelled the existing order and replaced it with a new one. On top of that, they also changed my graphics chip from the 9800 to the 9600, so I'll have to deal with that too! I should have just left it the way it was.

Let this be a lesson to the rest of you...

I'm sorry to hear about your problem Foxer. You should make a phone call to customer service. Hopefully they will rectify the situation and restore your 8/29 ship date. Good luck!

[jaedreth]

I hate abusing systems, but if I could give you a hint *wink* it actually *is* true, if you contact Customer Relations, and throw a big enough temper tantrum, they will pretty much give you what you want. Dunno if it would work here, but it might.

I never thought I'd be saying something like this, because it always used to *irk* me when a cr agent would go over my head and replace something without a good solid technical cause. *heh*

Jaedreth

[Foxer]

Originally posted by jaedreth
I hate abusing systems, but if I could give you a hint *wink* it actually *is* true, if you contact Customer Relations, and throw a big enough temper tantrum, they will pretty much give you what you want. Dunno if it would work here, but it might.

I never thought I'd be saying something like this, because it always used to *irk* me when a cr agent would go over my head and replace something without a good solid technical cause. *heh*

Jaedreth

cool. thanks

[wondermite]

I called Apple today, asked why if I order online, it says "4-6 weeks". She said, and I quote:

"'Now Shipping' means we're shipping to those who pre-ordered systems. You won't be able to get a system upon placing an order until late September."

unquote. Sure, stores will get one, maybe two, for display--but forget picking one up for awhile.

[BrandonRP0123]

Originally posted by Multimedia
I pointedly asked her about tomorrow or wednesday and she said NO. End of the week.


They must be sitting on them.

I was walking up Kipling toward University (on my way to University and Bryant) and there were 2 apple store employees carting a stack of at least 5 of the now familiar black boxes into the store. What would you do if you saw the G5 boxes in person? Run to them. One of the employees told me they were all 1.6s and they were to setup the display after hours that evening. That's it. :)

[Rocketman]

I went to the dell site and tried to configure a dual Xenon 3.0ghz that is somewhat comparable to a base G5 2x2ghz for $3000.

I was somewhat stingy. You may note Dell charges $50 for the analog modem Apple charges $30 for.

Dell Precision™Workstation 650n Minitower
Intel® Xeon™ Processor, 3.06GHz, 1MB L3 Cache

Qty: 1
Price: $4,273.00
_ _ Date: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 10:47:06 AM CDT
_ _ Catalog Number: 4 04
Dell Precision™Workstation 650n Minitower: _ Intel® Xeon™ Processor, 3.06GHz, 1MB L3 Cache _ 65T31N _ [221-3293]
2nd Processor (Must match speed selection above): _ Intel® Xeon™ Processor, 3.06GHz, 1MB L3 CACHE _ PR3061M _ [311-3096]
Memory: _ 512MB,DDR266 SDRAM Memory,ECC (2 DIMMS) _ 512E2 _ [311-2279]
Keyboard: _ Entry Level, PS/2, No Hot Keys _ E _ [310-1609]
Monitor: _ No Monitor Option _ N _ [320-3316]
Graphics Cards: _ nVidia, Quadro NVS 280, 64MB, dual monitor DVI or VGA capable _ QNVSDV _ [320-0719]
First Drive: _ 80GB ATA-100 IDE, 1 inch (7200 rpm) _ 80I72 _ [340-7591]
Floppy Drive: _ 3.5 inch 1.44MB Floppy Drive _ 3 _ [340-3736]
Operating System(s): _ Official Red Hat Linux 9, with extended Red Hat Support _ LIN9R _ [420-3093]
Mouse: _ PS/2,Dell, 2 button w/no scroll _ WS _ [310-8300]
Modem: _ 56K,v.92 data/fax modem,PCI _ V92DF _ [313-1142]
CD-ROM, DVD, and Read-Write Devices: _ 48X/24X/48X CDRW with Roxio® Easy CD Creator _ CDRW48 _ [313-1770]
Speakers: _ Internal Chassis Speaker,Dell _ INTSPK _ [313-1469]
Hardware Support Services: _ Promo 3Yr Ltd Wty + 3Yr Same Day 4Hr On-Site Svc(M-F 8am-6pm)+Gold Tech Spt _ Y4HRGTS _ [902-4039] [950-4510] [950-4512]
Installation Services: _ No Installation _ NOINSTL _ [900-9987]
Intel Hyper-Threading: _ Hyper-Threading feature preset to "ON." Can be disabled/enabled in BIOS. _ HYPER _ [460-7163]

I do not claim to be a configuration expert or anything but it looks to me as if there is a price discrepency alright. Well in Apple's favor.

Rocketman

[fpnc]

Apparently (based upon another news report) right now the Apple Stores are just receiving the G5 tee shirts, not the G5 computers (no joke). However, the actual G5 systems are supposed to arrive at the stores fairly soon (should be before the end of the week). So it's possible that the G5 boxes that people are reporting may only contain shirts, not G5 Power Macs. As yet, and as far as I can tell there have been no actual G5 deliveries. It may be that the "now shipping" announcement only means that the systems have starting leaving the factories in Taiwan. Thus, it may take several days for the air shipment from Taiwan, clearance through customs, and the final ground distribution to the sales channels.

[mactastic]

Anyone who ordered direct from apple should have them by end of this week/beginning of next. I think it took about 5 days from the time it left Taiwan to get my powerbook. No guarantees I guess, but someone's gonna get one real soon. Probably someone in the Alaska/Washington area, but oddly enough it goes to Indiana after that if I remember correctly. It's gonna be whoever lives closest to one of those FedEx distribution centers.

[wirewyrm]

PowerMacs are not built in Taiwan, and as far as I know they never have been. They are built in Ireland and Sacremento.

[fpnc]

Originally posted by wirewyrm
PowerMacs are not built in Taiwan, and as far as I know they never have been. They are built in Ireland and Sacremento.

You may be correct, however, all of the reports have indicated that the motherboards are manufactured in Taiwan so I guess I assumed that they would be assembled there also. However, now that I consider it, since the vast majority of all motherboards are manufactured in Taiwan I guess that doesn't necessarily mean that the final assembly has to happen there also.

If they are being manufactured in Sacramento then they should start arriving today (at the latest). If only in Ireland then the same caveats on delivery apply.

[fpnc]

IMO, anyone who ordered one of the dual 2.0 GHz G5s has about zero chance of seeing their system __before__ the end of August. I know, Apple is saying 8/29, but I suspect that those systems won't actually arrive until well into the first week of September (at the earliest).

True, one or two more weeks of waiting really isn't too bad, but I suspect that many of us are anxious to see how these systems really measure up in the real world. When they do arrive the G5 Power Macs will arguably be the most advanced PCs on the market.

However, I don't think they will offer performance that will set them that far apart from current top-of-the-line Pentium 4 PCs. Thus, the dual 2.0GHz G5 will be much faster in a couple of select cases, similar to P4s in most cases, and slower in a few other tasks. Overall, I suspect that they will be P4-comparable but not really world-beaters in raw performance. Whether their elegance and overall superb internal design will "win out" will depend upon how well they have actually been implemented (i.e. let's hope that there are no obvious flaws in the hardware design and that they more-or-less work as advertised).

[Frohickey]

Originally posted by fpnc
You may be correct, however, all of the reports have indicated that the motherboards are manufactured in Taiwan...

If they are being manufactured in Sacramento then they should start arriving today (at the latest).

PowerMac motherboards are NOT manufactured in Taiwan.

[soggywulf]

Originally posted by fpnc
However, I don't think they will offer performance that will set them that far apart from current top-of-the-line Pentium 4 PCs. Thus, the dual 2.0GHz G5 will be much faster in a couple of select cases, similar to P4s in most cases, and slower in a few other tasks. Overall, I suspect that they will be P4-comparable but not really world-beaters in raw performance.

Yes I agree. Price-wise I think we are still a bit behind, but performance-wise it looks like we are honestly on par with Wintel. A refreshing change.

[MattG]

I just called Apple regarding my order. Basically what the guy told me was that the Duals won't start shipping until the 29th (next Friday). He said that there's a good chance that even though my order is slated for September that it would go out on the 29th, but not to hold my breath. But anyway, no duals will be shipping until the 29th according to him.

[fpnc]

Originally posted by Frohickey
PowerMac motherboards are NOT manufactured in Taiwan.

Can you provide a source for this information? Like I said, I've read several reports on the various rumor sites that indicate that the G5 motherboards are being manufactured in Taiwan. And these were not based upon user reports, the sites were actually posting "news" that the G5 motherboards were being manufactured in Taiwan. But, of course, this "news" could have been incorrect.

We know that the G5 processor is manufactured at IBM's East FishKill facility (and possibly at other U.S. sites), and at the WWDC Steve Jobs even made a point of saying that the processor was made in the USA. However, as far as I know Apple has never publicly stated where the motherboard is being built.

[OSXpert]

I was at the apple store retailer at USC earlier today, and not only did they have a G5 on display, but they had already sold a couple of 1.6Ghz that they had got. They also said they are getting some 1.8's on sept. 2, but i think thats only like 2 or 3 boxes....One of which has already been reserved....by me.....

[Rocketman]

I posted in prior messages that I felt Santa Monica, CA would be among the first. USC is very near SM, CA.

I also posted in a prior message that initially they would be selign a short stack of 1.6 Ghx bozes.

So far so good.

Rocketman

If only I felt like predicting that a G5 Powerbook was on the immediate horizon :)

[mactastic]

All I know is that when I ordered my TiBook last November, the FedEx shipment originated in Taiwan, and wound up at my house. I was able to follow its progress on the FedEx website.

[BrandonRP0123]

Originally posted by mactastic
All I know is that when I ordered my TiBook last November, the FedEx shipment originated in Taiwan, and wound up at my house. I was able to follow its progress on the FedEx website.

The portables are built in Taiwan and shipped over. The Power Macs and iMacs are assembled in Sacramento or Ireland respectively.

[panphage]

Just called the Glendale Galleria Apple store, they have a G5 in the window to look at and are setting up a demo model as I type. I'm going to the mall!

[Golem]

Ahh finally apple.com.au has swapped to the now shipping graphic plus we got the Ad for the g5 blowing out the side of the house during the Sunday night movies.

I might trot down to the local store after work tomorrow and see if they have them.