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--Wolf--
Sep 14, 2007, 12:04 AM
I was reading the REAL 16gb capacity is 14.99gb or something....so what's that make the 8gb?



Eidorian
Sep 14, 2007, 12:06 AM
It's more then likely 8000 MB. Then expect some overhead from OS X in the order of ~500 MB.

I believe that pictures are stored differently as well so they'll take up less space without thumbnails like on the Nano.

jockmock
Sep 14, 2007, 12:26 AM
I was the one who wrote that. If Apple count the gigabytes the same way as every other harddrive manufacturer does, the 16Gb probably only has 14.99gB - OS.
For example... I have Windows, if I open Computer, and look at the space of my "300Gb" harddrive, it will show 279GB. This is because manufacturers count 1000bytes per 1kb, 1000kb per one 1mb and 1000mb per one Gb. In reality, it is 1024bytes per 1kb, 1024kb per mb and 1024mb per Gb....
Now, I'm only speculating from the fact that the manual shows a Touch with 14.64Gb free. Maybe Apple counts in the real way, I don't know.

What storage did the new ipod classic and nano owners have when they got it?

--Wolf--
Sep 14, 2007, 12:36 AM
I just wanna know how much music I can put on it. I know I can't get the full 8gb because of the OS and apps and such.

Eidorian
Sep 14, 2007, 12:38 AM
That depends entirely on the bitrate and length of the songs.

EvilDoc
Sep 14, 2007, 12:48 AM
How much Hd space is available for music, movies etc on the 8 gig?

balamw
Sep 14, 2007, 12:59 AM
How many times a day must we repeat this! :p

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=354632

When storage space space is sold it is quantified in Gigabytes (GB), when it is reported by an OS, the OS usually reports the drive size in Gibibytes (GiB), although they incorrectly use GB for the units. This leads to all drives appearing to provide roughly 7% less space than the size on the box.

i.e. a 160 GB drive is always reported by the OS as 149 GiB and this does not include any loss due to "formatting" or any software or firmware already on the disc.

So to answer the OPs question. My "8 GB" nano is reported correctly as having 7.4 GiB of space of that 79 MiB is used for "other", which likely includes the file system overhead (formatting) and the OS. The Touch OS is likely more, but not much more.

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sanford
Sep 14, 2007, 02:51 AM
I was reading the REAL 16gb capacity is 14.99gb or something....so what's that make the 8gb?

My iPhone 8GB is 7.3GB, but iPhones probably have little more file/default data overhead. So maybe 7.4GB or so.

It's not bad at all. Honestly, if you're going the iPod touch router and iPhone is available to you, I can't recommend paying the same price as an iPhone at US$399 for the 16GB iPod for 8GB more storage. You'd be far better off with an iPhone for the same money.

TheBonk
Sep 14, 2007, 06:26 AM
When I checked at my Apple Store, the Touch had a capacity of 7.3 GB. I thought it was 7.08 GB when I saw plugged into iTunes on the guided tour, but that was most likely because some songs were already uploaded onto it.

--Wolf--
Sep 14, 2007, 06:32 AM
So it's safe to say I can put a MINIMUM of 7gb of music onto it.

Thanks.

sanford
Sep 14, 2007, 06:32 AM
When I checked at my Apple Store, the Touch had a capacity of 7.3 GB. I thought it was 7.08 GB when I saw plugged into iTunes on the guided tour, but that was most likely because some songs were already uploaded onto it.

Well that would tend to indicate the storage is fully user accessible and the actual OS and related software resides in its own flash. Interesting. So technically there is no overhead other than the usual formatting overhead.

sanford
Sep 14, 2007, 06:36 AM
So it's safe to say I can put a MINIMUM of 7gb of music onto it.

Thanks.

Absolutely.

Draythor
Sep 14, 2007, 11:28 AM
http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/itunes.html
down near the bottom
7.24GB
~Dray

Rapmastac1
Sep 14, 2007, 11:32 AM
Now for the 16gig ipod... I'm assuming there will be 14.8gigs of useable space