View Full Version : What Kind Of Mouse Do You Use?
davekarn
Sep 18, 2007, 05:01 PM
I've been looking at the Logitech VX Nano Cordless Laser Mouse, but the one thing that bothers me is that it emphasizes on for Notebooks. I'm getting an iMac soon and this would work fine for it right? Is there a better desktop mouse out there that I should consider? Thanks in advance for any info!
~Dave
siurpeeman
Sep 18, 2007, 05:04 PM
the vx nano is a fine mouse. it's advertised as a laptop mouse, because it's small. i have fairly small hands, and i think the mouse is still a tad too small for me. before you look into buying that mouse, i suggest you hold it in your hand to see if you can be comfortable with it.
iPhonePlaya
Sep 18, 2007, 05:05 PM
i just got the new wireless mighty mouse for my new imac. i like it alot
bc008
Sep 18, 2007, 05:05 PM
i would get that one merely for the reciever! that thing is sweet, you could plug it into the side of your keyboard and forget.
but, the mighty mouse is a great mouse in my opinion, although i have only been using it for about a month
davekarn
Sep 18, 2007, 05:16 PM
So you all think that I should give the MM a shot before purchasing a new mouse? I was thinking about getting the wireless MM, but didn't want to put $20 into something I may or may not like. I keep hearing all the bad things about it, and I've grown quite fond to right-clicking.
netdog
Sep 18, 2007, 05:18 PM
Wired MM here. Once I got the keys setup the way I like, I love it.
rjedoaks
Sep 18, 2007, 05:20 PM
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an after market mouse will work on my Imac as it worked on my PC. In other words, forward and back buttons. I'm using the Mighty mouse, which is good, but having to always go into the menu is a pain . Am i missing something here. Thanks
PlaceofDis
Sep 18, 2007, 05:21 PM
i currently use a VX Revolution, but its been a bit flaky here and there, if it keeps it up ill end up trying out the vx nano
vanmacguy
Sep 18, 2007, 05:31 PM
So you all think that I should give the MM a shot before purchasing a new mouse? I was thinking about getting the wireless MM, but didn't want to put $20 into something I may or may not like. I keep hearing all the bad things about it, and I've grown quite fond to right-clicking.
I use a Bluetooth Mighty Mouse on both my MBP and my iMac and love it.
You can still right-click, I came from the windows world and would be lost without my right-click.
Cheers.
xpisnotforme
Sep 18, 2007, 05:45 PM
Yea, it's only fair to give the included MM shot...and it's totally understandable when you then shoot your Mighty Mouse....repeatedly.
I work between an iMac 24" and a macbook and the mighty mouse super grossed me out and I wanted to love it. I currently am using a razer pro 1.6 mac mouse in white and it is amazing.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://divinereality.net/images/razor_mouse.jpg&imgrefurl=http://divinereality.net/%3Fpaged%3D3%26s%3D&h=480&w=640&sz=96&hl=en&start=3&sig2=NalHL7sfOCjo9i7mZ6kwWg&tbnid=gYtn3cCgqN-NKM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&ei=llTwRpj1NqLQeOmwwMsG&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drazer%2B1.6%2Bmouse%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
angrygolfer
Sep 18, 2007, 05:51 PM
I am pleasantly surprised with my wireless Mighty Mouse. I really like it.
nissan.gtp
Sep 18, 2007, 07:06 PM
wired MM here. it's pretty good, having the right-click capability is great.
will prob go wireless ...
the new kdb is really great, wish apple made a full-size wireless one
Richard.John
Sep 18, 2007, 08:06 PM
Logitech MX620! Nice feel, battery powered and has little USB receiver so no wires. Great mouse.
divedude
Sep 18, 2007, 08:32 PM
I'm using a simple HP optical mouse and a Dell keyboard through my IOGEAR KVM. Works fine.
shinji
Sep 18, 2007, 08:46 PM
So you all think that I should give the MM a shot before purchasing a new mouse? I was thinking about getting the wireless MM, but didn't want to put $20 into something I may or may not like. I keep hearing all the bad things about it, and I've grown quite fond to right-clicking.
I'm using a Razer Pro I bought at the Apple Store...$50 or so IIRC. It's a great mouse, configurable, feels great...only thing I don't like about it is it has a blue LED under the mousewheel which I find tacky. I'm using their drivers too, not usboverdrive.
The MM I just didn't like the feel of...Razer Pro is much more comortable to use.
MikeTheC
Sep 18, 2007, 09:02 PM
Dave:
Some thoughts on this...
First, ignore the word "Notebook", "Laptop" or anything else implying portable functionality in the name of a mouse. The only normal difference between one of those and a "regular" mouse is the size of the case. You simply have to be comfortable with what you're buying, and for things like mice and keyboards, there is NO substitute for test-driving one. Period.
Second, Laser-class optical mice are the only way to fly anymore, as far as I'm concerned. They track over a helluva lot more kinds of surfaces and surface finishes than their non-laser cousins, and not only that but their tracking is far superior. I wouldn't even *own* a non-laser mouse as a daily-driver mouse. I do own a few that I've collected over the years, pre-Laser, but they're in a closet and are for emergency backup and/or for guests that bring their computers over.
Third, in my experience, the only two brands of mouse maker presently making an acceptable product are Logitech and (may The Steve forgive me) Microsoft. Apple's mice are crap, and have been ever since the beginning of their Mighty Mouse product line. The last good mouse Apple made was their so-called "Pro" mouse. Kensington has made some very respectable devices in the past, and I still own one, but the mice in their current lineup are, I find, also sub-par.
Fourth, unless it's for a laptop (and even then) don't bother with wireless. I haven't found a good purpose for one yet. The Bluetooth mice are even worse, with poor and inconsistent tracking, lags on initial movement after the power-save time-out delay period has lapsed, and just generally don't have the responsiveness that even traditional RF-based wireless mice have. This has been my experience on both the Mac and Windows implementations of Bluetooth, and across at least two or three brands of mice (from the very-off-brand to even Apple's BT MM).
My main mouse, which I use with my PowerBook G4 when it's in "desktop replacement" mode is a Logitech MX400. It's one of the best mice I've ever owned, and wouldn't trade it for the world. I haven't tried the one you're looking at, but if it's even half as good as the one I own, it should meet all of your expectations.
Good luck!
JBat
Sep 18, 2007, 09:03 PM
I've only had my machine about five days, but I've already dumped the MM because I couldn't stand it. Right now I'm using my old corded Microsoft optical Intellipoint mouse and it is working great. I DL'd the latest drivers for it and have full functionality.
I was going to get a Logitech, but have been reading of people having problems with them on Macs (kernel panics and the like related to the Logitech Control Center software) and I'm going to hold off for now. I do like them from a hardware standpoint though.
JBat
Sep 18, 2007, 09:16 PM
Dave:
Some thoughts on this...
First, ignore the word "Notebook", "Laptop" or anything else implying portable functionality in the name of a mouse. The only normal difference between one of those and a "regular" mouse is the size of the case. You simply have to be comfortable with what you're buying, and for things like mice and keyboards, there is NO substitute for test-driving one. Period.
Second, Laser-class optical mice are the only way to fly anymore, as far as I'm concerned. They track over a helluva lot more kinds of surfaces and surface finishes than their non-laser cousins, and not only that but their tracking is far superior. I wouldn't even *own* a non-laser mouse as a daily-driver mouse. I do own a few that I've collected over the years, pre-Laser, but they're in a closet and are for emergency backup and/or for guests that bring their computers over.
Third, in my experience, the only two brands of mouse maker presently making an acceptable product are Logitech and (may The Steve forgive me) Microsoft. Apple's mice are crap, and have been ever since the beginning of their Mighty Mouse product line. The last good mouse Apple made was their so-called "Pro" mouse. Kensington has made some very respectable devices in the past, and I still own one, but the mice in their current lineup are, I find, also sub-par.
Fourth, unless it's for a laptop (and even then) don't bother with wireless. I haven't found a good purpose for one yet. The Bluetooth mice are even worse, with poor and inconsistent tracking, lags on initial movement after the power-save time-out delay period has lapsed, and just generally don't have the responsiveness that even traditional RF-based wireless mice have. This has been my experience on both the Mac and Windows implementations of Bluetooth, and across at least two or three brands of mice (from the very-off-brand to even Apple's BT MM).
My main mouse, which I use with my PowerBook G4 when it's in "desktop replacement" mode is a Logitech MX400. It's one of the best mice I've ever owned, and wouldn't trade it for the world. I haven't tried the one you're looking at, but if it's even half as good as the one I own, it should meet all of your expectations.
Good luck!
That's good info MikeTheC. I didn't know that about the BT devices. Maybe I'll give a corded, laser Logitech a whirl. IO'd love to have better tracking than my old optical, though that isn't that bad, truth be told.
Have you not had any issues with the supplied Logitech software?
I second the Microsoft vote, they really do make excellent input devices. :D
jczubach
Sep 18, 2007, 09:24 PM
has anyone tried this self replicating mouse?
iBookG4user
Sep 18, 2007, 10:01 PM
I use the Logitech VX Revolution, I think it is a great mouse, by far the most comfortable one I've ever used.
richkent72
Sep 19, 2007, 03:22 AM
I've got the VX Revolution - not sure how this compares to the Nano. Although it's a bit smaller than some mice it's comfortable enough for everyday use (for my hands anyway). I've had no signal problems although the receiver is plugged into one of the USB ports on my keyboard and is therefore only about three inches away.
The one caveat: Don't use the Logitech software. It does work but it makes your mouse seem defective (scrolling is slooooowwww - no wonder it needs the free-wheel function). Download SteerMouse. $20 well spent.
sarah3585
Sep 19, 2007, 05:35 AM
How much bigger is the MX Revolution to the VX. The MX packaging in the UK is in a box so you can't see it. The VX seems ok for my hand but would like to be able to compare with te MX.
pcorajr
Sep 19, 2007, 05:43 AM
I used a LX3 By logitech. MM is something you either love or love to hate. It is personal opinion but my hand feels awkward when using a MM . I need something that has some ergonomics to it. The MM is to flat and feels like crap to me.
iElin
Sep 19, 2007, 10:17 AM
I am using the mighty mouse i got with the iMac.
Sdashiki
Sep 19, 2007, 10:21 AM
Logitech MX300
Cheap, "reliable" (they all give up the ghost in one way or another) and wired.
I have to 2nd the opinion about wireless being an extra cost when using it for desktop.
not only do you have to charge the batteries, but you have to replace them as well. Cue the "I havent changed my batteries yet!" rants.
Save you money and get a good wired one.
Anything above the 300 series (which they dumped) from Logitech should be good. Its all about how "precise" you need your laser (gaming) and how many extra buttons you can stand or want. I always liked the 500 series, gaming mice, but good all around.
RRK
Sep 19, 2007, 10:21 AM
I use the MX Revolution.
CajunCARTFan
Sep 19, 2007, 10:55 AM
I use the wireless mighty mouse.
Jimmdean
Sep 19, 2007, 11:06 AM
If you want wireless, go with wireless optical, like the LX7. Avoid wireless laser as it's just not mature yet. Of course, if you're photoshopping or gaming or such then wired is still the way to go. Personally I have both and just plug in the wired one when I need it...
expergo
Sep 19, 2007, 02:25 PM
I use MX Revolution with my iMac. VX Revolution with MB.
Nermal
Sep 19, 2007, 02:35 PM
A 4-year-old MS Wheel Mouse Optical (not to be confused with the awful Basic Optical Mouse).
MikeTheC
Sep 19, 2007, 02:47 PM
That's good info MikeTheC. I didn't know that about the BT devices. Maybe I'll give a corded, laser Logitech a whirl. IO'd love to have better tracking than my old optical, though that isn't that bad, truth be told.
Have you not had any issues with the supplied Logitech software?
I second the Microsoft vote, they really do make excellent input devices. :D
I have Logitech's software installed at present, and it hasn't been causing me any problems, but generally I don't install anyone's software because, well, most of the time I only have two-button mice, Mac OS X automatically supports the scroll wheel, and a lot of times (especially on the Mac, not sure why it's more of an issue here) the manufacturer's tracking settings are pure crap.
Now, it's funny, because as I type this I've got my PB on my dining room table, with my Microsoft WNLM 6000 up and running, and I have their fugly USB dongle sticking out the other side of my laptop. Nevertheless...
JBat
Sep 19, 2007, 04:59 PM
I have Logitech's software installed at present, and it hasn't been causing me any problems, but generally I don't install anyone's software because, well, most of the time I only have two-button mice, Mac OS X automatically supports the scroll wheel, and a lot of times (especially on the Mac, not sure why it's more of an issue here) the manufacturer's tracking settings are pure crap.
Now, it's funny, because as I type this I've got my PB on my dining room table, with my Microsoft WNLM 6000 up and running, and I have their fugly USB dongle sticking out the other side of my laptop. Nevertheless...
Thanks, Mike. On your recommendation, I picked up an MX400 today and will install it when I get home. I'm just going just plug it in and use it. Hopefully, I'll get full functionality to include the front and back web browser buttons, which I use a lot. If not I'll try the most current Logitech software and see what happens. I do love the way it feels in my hand and look forward to superior tracking.
Thanks again.
theheyes
Sep 19, 2007, 05:11 PM
A 4-year-old MS Wheel Mouse Optical (not to be confused with the awful Basic Optical Mouse).
Me too. The Mighty Mouse is a pile of garbage.
No offense to people who use the MM, but you really have to WANT to like it to stick with it. There are so many better options out there.
davekarn
Sep 19, 2007, 05:44 PM
Honestly I haven't owned a mouse since I've bought this laptop almost two years ago, so I would almost take anything right now! I may just give the MM a shot for a week or two and then go mouse shopping if need be. Thanks for all the input from everyone. This is by far one of the best forums around.
4God
Sep 19, 2007, 05:47 PM
Wired MM here. Once I got the keys setup the way I like, I love it.
Yeah, me too. I just like how it feels.
JAT
Sep 19, 2007, 10:14 PM
Want an odd dissenting opinion? It all depends on what you need.
At work I use an Expert Mouse. Sooo much better than a regular mouse. Faster, more options, better scroll wheel, no carpal tunnel worries. (it's a trackball from Kensington) And on a Mac, the software actually works.
My other computer is supposed to be an HT/server Mini, although I use it for other crap, too. Here I have a Gyration Ultra. It isn't all that great, battery life is weak (it's wireless, not BT), it jumps around occasionally like a flaky Dell trackpad. But I can use it in the air in my HT! Winner.
Rhosfelt
Sep 19, 2007, 10:38 PM
I use the logitech LX7 great mouse for gaming Photoshop and it can take a beating. I love it, even though it takes up a usb port..
EdT
Sep 19, 2007, 10:52 PM
So you all think that I should give the MM a shot before purchasing a new mouse? I was thinking about getting the wireless MM, but didn't want to put $20 into something I may or may not like. I keep hearing all the bad things about it, and I've grown quite fond to right-clicking.
I ordered the wireless MM. The only "complaint" I have is that by default (in Preferences) the left and right mouse buttons are assigned to do the same thing. So I thought my mouse was defective, because the 'right' click didn't do anything different from a 'left' click. Go to System Preferences, select the mouse, then make the right mouse button a 'secondary' button.
Although it doesn't look like an MS mouse (or Logitech, for that matter) and although you can't "see" the left and right mouse buttons, I have had no trouble with my mouse after setting it up in preferences. The scroll button in the center works fine, the left and right mouse buttons work properly, and I have had no trouble with the bluetooth connection.
In the past, with Windows PC machines, I preferred Logitech mice. I have no trouble recommending the Mighty Mouse now. I have only been an IMac user for 3 weeks, but the mouse has not been something I have had to think about. And for me, when something works so well that I don't even think about it while I am using it that speaks highly of how well it is doing its job.
JBat
Sep 19, 2007, 10:57 PM
I've been messing around with the MX400 for most of the evening and it is indeed very good. The tracking is far better than my old MS optical mouse and the quality and feel of the device is top notch. With the uber high resolution of my 24" screen, I definitely need precise cursor control.
Instead of installing the software on the provided disc, which states on it that it's for Windows, I went to Logitech's website and downloaded the Control Center for Mac from there and haven't had any issues with performance, and I also have full functionality. Some have reported issues with Logitech mice on Mac's, but so far so good here.
I'm happy with it and it simply blows the Mighty Mouse out of the water.
ucfgrad93
Sep 19, 2007, 11:07 PM
I just got the wireless mighty mouse today. Its my first wireless mouse. How long can I expect the batteries to last? Can I use rechargable batteries?
Richard.John
Sep 19, 2007, 11:15 PM
I just got the wireless mighty mouse today. Its my first wireless mouse. How long can I expect the batteries to last? Can I use rechargable batteries?
It uses standard, off the shelf batteries so yes rechargeables will work.
jmpmntwnty3
Sep 19, 2007, 11:17 PM
Have you guys checked out this sucker yet?
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/notebook_products/mice/devices/3287&cl=us,en
According to the site, it hasn't been released yet. But I did a quick search at Amazon Tuesday night and the mouse is sitting right here waiting for my Macbook Pro to get here, which won't be here 'til next week (urgh). Sucks that I got the mouse before I got the friggin notebook! Haha
But I'll let you know how it works out as soon as my macbook pro gets here. The box that it came in says "Designed for Mac" by the way. And it uses BLUETOOTH! :D
wngraham
Sep 20, 2007, 09:33 AM
wireless Mighty Mouse
RichardI
Sep 20, 2007, 10:17 AM
I'm using the wired MM that came with my iMac. Hated it at first, then installed SteerMouse (a free download) and now I love it. SteerMouse increases the mouse's (mices??) sensitivity so that I can traverse my 24" screen without picking the mouse up. I had a Logitech G7 laser gaming mouse on my PC and loved it's super sensitivity.
Rich :cool:
alljunks
Sep 20, 2007, 10:28 AM
wireless mighty mouse!!
jepjepjep
Sep 21, 2007, 03:11 AM
Yea, it's only fair to give the included MM shot...and it's totally understandable when you then shoot your Mighty Mouse....repeatedly.
I work between an iMac 24" and a macbook and the mighty mouse super grossed me out and I wanted to love it. I currently am using a razer pro 1.6 mac mouse in white and it is amazing.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://divinereality.net/images/razor_mouse.jpg&imgrefurl=http://divinereality.net/%3Fpaged%3D3%26s%3D&h=480&w=640&sz=96&hl=en&start=3&sig2=NalHL7sfOCjo9i7mZ6kwWg&tbnid=gYtn3cCgqN-NKM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=137&ei=llTwRpj1NqLQeOmwwMsG&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drazer%2B1.6%2Bmouse%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
I have the razor mouse too, but I find myself going back to the wired MM. I just like the small size of the scrollwheel.
dan7592
Sep 21, 2007, 12:43 PM
I have the mighty mouse and I love it, all except for when the scroll wheel stops working.
MichelleAK
Sep 21, 2007, 12:45 PM
I use a Kensington Expert Mouse (trackball). Pricy, but the best "mouse" for me; the standard mice start bothering my wrist if I have to use them for too long.
I did keep the mouse that came with my iMac, and use that with my Macbook when I'm traveling (I hate using the keypad).
Father Jack
Sep 21, 2007, 12:47 PM
BT mighty mouse and Logitech MX Revolution .. :)
wrldwzrd89
Sep 21, 2007, 01:13 PM
I have a desktop Mac, with which I use a so-called "unbreakable" mouse. It really is quite tough, and has withstood repeated droppings, accidental spills, and even being bashed into the desk in frustration.:p
On my portable Mac I just use the built-in trackpad.
hardhatmac
Sep 21, 2007, 01:32 PM
honestly...anything but the mighty mouse...
I use the Microsoft Wireless Intellimouse explorer 2.0
It's a cheap (I got it for $13) reliable mouse that offers virtical (sp) and horizontal (sp) scrolling...plus programable buttons...
v-ault
Sep 21, 2007, 02:50 PM
The MX revolution by logitech.
rallycars
Sep 21, 2007, 05:20 PM
The MX revolution by logitech.
It appears that tiger direct is selling them now for $25 after rebates. It seems like a good price, as I have seen them for about $60 elsewhere (I think). I will try out the mighty mouse first if my iMac ever gets here. My friend is fond of the mouse where you spin a sphere and mouse stays still. They use them at the recording studio at which he works.
JBat
Sep 21, 2007, 06:40 PM
It appears that tiger direct is selling them now for $25 after rebates. It seems like a good price, as I have seen them for about $60 elsewhere (I think). I will try out the mighty mouse first if my iMac ever gets here. My friend is fond of the mouse where you spin a sphere and mouse stays still. They use them at the recording studio at which he works.
I've seen the MX Revolution for as much as $90 at places like Best Buy; it's definitely one of the more expensive mice out there. I like the shape of it in my hand, but I don't like the scroll wheel positioned right by the thumb. It was a deal-breaker for me. For $25 though, I might've gotten over it. :D
I think you are referring to a trackball when you speak of the spinning sphere.
devnill
Sep 22, 2007, 02:31 PM
Needed more than one mouse button for 3D apps like Blender etc.
So its an intellimouse I'm afraid letting the team down I know.
PTA
Sep 22, 2007, 02:44 PM
Logitech MX Revoloution
I love this mouse :
It is big and mid weight (my preferance for mice)
Has a rechargable Li ion battery so there is no futsing with changing out batteries
Programable buttons
Horizontal and vertical scrolling
the ball berring scroller is a dream for going through huge catalogs.
Slareman
Sep 23, 2007, 09:48 AM
Does anyone know how much the Logitech v470 weighs? The best result I could find on the web said about 240g, which seems too heavy when the v270 is only 172g.
Also does this one have the annoying lag of the v270 or does it seem improved? Anyone have more info? Thanks!
likwidplastik
Sep 23, 2007, 10:37 AM
I'm also using the MX Revolution. I absolutely love this thing. Programmable buttons, and the free scrolling is a dream.
raysmd
Sep 24, 2007, 10:15 AM
I like the MX400, but do you guys have a recommendation for a right or left handed users?
Thanks
TheSpecialist
Sep 24, 2007, 01:15 PM
Wireless mouse that comes with Logitech S530.
JBat
Sep 24, 2007, 02:03 PM
Does anyone know how much the Logitech v470 weighs? The best result I could find on the web said about 240g, which seems too heavy when the v270 is only 172g.
Also does this one have the annoying lag of the v270 or does it seem improved? Anyone have more info? Thanks!
You might check for the latest drivers at Logitechs website. There have been problems reported with some of their mice and Mac computers, though my MX400 has worked perfectly so far.
RichardI
Sep 24, 2007, 05:20 PM
I am now the proud owner of a logitech MX400 laser mouse. Superb piece of equipment. I'm also using their (Logitech's) Control Center software. It works like a dream.
Now if only it was white.....or aluminum...;)
Rich :cool:
xpisnotforme
Sep 24, 2007, 06:53 PM
I have the razor mouse too, but I find myself going back to the wired MM. I just like the small size of the scrollwheel.
I have to admit the razer scroll isn't amazing, yet the overall experience of the mouse and its drivers is so much more natural at least to me.
there is a mouse for everyone i say!
Tom Sawyer
Sep 24, 2007, 07:52 PM
I've been using the Radtech BT-600 since I got my iMac. It's actually quite good tracking wise. BT connection is solid but the button clicks (especially the side buttons) are crap. Very plastic, toy like, etc. Main left/right buttons are 'not bad', but NOTHING like the apple mice or M$ Intellimouse clicks. I will most likely pick up the M$ BT Explorer 8000. It's a well made mouse, great resolution, and nice size. Buttons are as expected, well engineered. I've read that they can be tricky to connect BT wise but besides that do well.
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