Keith Olbermann hands Bush his head

[SMM]

Wow! I never thought I would see someone in today's media pull Bush's pants down, and paddle his *ss like this (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/09/20/countdown-special-comment-the-president-of-hypocrisy/). Very well done. Republicans, do not look. It is painful.

[halfprep455]

That is why I like Olbermann. Finally there is someone in the mass media who is not afraid to go all out against the Bush administration and the Republicans. He hit this one right on the spot.

[yg17]

Keith > *


I nominate him for president :D

[solvs]

He's no Murrow, nor does he claim to be, but he's the best we've got right now and he does a decent job of it. I started liking Keith a lot for things just like this. As have others apparently, as his ratings have gone way up. Still, I wonder if they don't feel like they have to keep Tucker on just to counter him and seem "balanced". They have former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough, but he doesn't count anymore I guess. It's sad Tucker seems to be the best they could come up with to counter.

Especially considering how low Tucker's ratings are.

[yg17]

He's no Murrow, nor does he claim to be, but he's the best we've got right now and he does a decent job of it. I started liking Keith a lot for things just like this. As have others apparently, as his ratings have gone way up.


He's been kicking Billo's ass in the ratings the past couple weeks! :D

[Swarmlord]

As poorly written as anything I've read from Olberman.

Comparing the Patreaus ad to earlier ads that were in no way similar doesn't surprise me though. Hint: Twisting Kerry's name into something like Care? Eek? would have been similar.

[halfprep455]

As poorly written as anything I've read from Olberman.

Comparing the Patreaus ad to earlier ads that were in no way similar doesn't surprise me though. Hint: Twisting Kerry's name into something like Care? Eek? would have been similar.

And how was this poorly written? maybe you should compare Olbermann to say Billo, Rush, Hannity, or Coulter. Then you will see some really sh** "journalism".

[Swarmlord]

And how was this poorly written? maybe you should compare Olbermann to say Billo, Rush, Hannity, or Coulter. Then you will see some really sh** "journalism".

Well, he didn't explain how his examples of the swiftboat or campaign ads compared to making a juvenile name twisting ad implying treasonous activity by our leading military commander. I guess that because all examples involved ads, that by default that made them the same.

Why don't we all start using this technique to refer to politicians if it's so damned eloquent? Put out ads referring to Senator Waxhead or Speaker Low Blow Si! Isn't that just as funny? Damn, I feel like a high paid journalist already!

[beatzfreak]

Why doesn't anyone go after Bush for saying this yesterday:

"I heard somebody say, 'Where's Mandela?'," he said.

"Well, Mandela's dead because Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas."

WTF?

[SMM]

Why doesn't anyone go after Bush for saying this yesterday:

"I heard somebody say, 'Where's Mandela?'," he said.

"Well, Mandela's dead because Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas."

WTF?

Yes, that was unbelievable. It is also on the page at C & R I referenced

[Sdashiki]

Very nice.

Reading most of the comments, I see that there are still some who support bush, some that support neither Rep or Dem. They posted succinct and sorta useful posts.

Anyone else who didn't agree with anything could only use flamebait posts, as noted by the numerous deleted tags.

Guess the Administration's tactics permeate even those who actually believe them. Ouch.

[solvs]

Well, he didn't explain how his examples of the swiftboat or campaign ads compared to making a juvenile name twisting ad implying treasonous activity by our leading military commander.
Because the excuse is that he's in the military, and if you criticize him, you're criticizing the troops. Only they criticize others in the military all the time. He's just pointing out the hypocrisy. And he's angry we're still being lied to.

We're still angry too, and I'm amazed you still don't get why.

Why doesn't anyone go after Bush for saying this yesterday:

"I heard somebody say, 'Where's Mandela?'," he said.

"Well, Mandela's dead because Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas."

WTF?
There's a thread on that.

[Iscariot]

...
Comparing the Patreaus ad to earlier ads that were in no way similar doesn't surprise me though. Hint: Twisting Kerry's name into something like Care? Eek? would have been similar.

Well, he didn't explain how his examples of the swiftboat or campaign ads compared to making a juvenile name twisting ad implying treasonous activity by our leading military commander.

...

Doesn't that just further the point that the President's response to the MoveOn.org ads are disproportionate? He's up in arms over an ad that is remarkably tame compared to the ads his own camp has run.

I mean, "Betray Us"? Why didn't they just call him a poopie head?

Keith Olberman... now he's an example of an attack campaign worth getting up in arms about.

[SMM]

Doesn't that just further the point that the President's response to the MoveOn.org ads are disproportionate? He's up in arms over an ad that is remarkably tame compared to the ads his own camp has run.

I mean, "Betray Us"? Why didn't they just call him a poopie head?

Keith Olberman... now he's an example of an attack campaign worth getting up in arms about.

Pull your head out of the neocon clouds and you will be able to discern truthful reporting from the BS shoved down our throats over the past decade.

Those of you who think you are conservative, and support Bush, are traitors to your party. The republican party was long ago infiltrated by an extreme element of American society. They are not our parents Republicans. They are as dangerous as any group we have.

Read Barry Goldwater's book "Conscience of a Conservative" and John Dean's book, "Conservatives Without Conscience". These are two of the smartest, most honest men from the remains of the conservative movement. Both denounce what the party has become.

If you cannot accept what they have to say, or what they stand for, then you are clearly a member of the Neo-Conservative Extreme Anti-American Evangelical Christian movement. You are the enemy to the vast number of Americans, and that number is growing. Your heyday is over. You are going down. You will not take control of America and force us to live by your narrow-minded, fanatical views on life.

[halfprep455]

Pull your head out of the neocon clouds and you will be able to discern truthful reporting from the BS shoved down our throats over the past decade.

Those of you who think you are conservative, and support Bush, are traitors to your party. The republican party was long ago infiltrated by an extreme element of American society. They are not our parents Republicans. They are as dangerous as any group we have.

Read Barry Goldwater's book "Conscience of a Conservative" and John Dean's book, "Conservatives Without Conscience". These are two of the smartest, most honest men from the remains of the conservative movement. Both denounce what the party has become.

If you cannot accept what they have to say, or what they stand for, then you are clearly a member of the Neo-Conservative Extreme Anti-American Evangelical Christian movement. You are the enemy to the vast number of Americans, and that number is growing. Your heyday is over. You are going down. You will not take control of America and force us to live by your narrow-minded, fanatical views on life.
The old Republican party was not nearly as ultra right as the Neo republican party. Goldwater, Ford, Eisenhower, and even Nixon would be viewed as Moderates or Centrists today.

[leekohler]

Well, he didn't explain how his examples of the swiftboat or campaign ads compared to making a juvenile name twisting ad implying treasonous activity by our leading military commander. I guess that because all examples involved ads, that by default that made them the same.

Why don't we all start using this technique to refer to politicians if it's so damned eloquent? Put out ads referring to Senator Waxhead or Speaker Low Blow Si! Isn't that just as funny? Damn, I feel like a high paid journalist already!

You know- I'm beginning to get you. It's not that you're blind to what's going on, it's really that you actually support it. Whatever Bush does is OK with you- no matter how false, because it suits your ends whatever they may be.

[Iscariot]

Pull your head out of the neocon clouds and you will be able to discern truthful reporting from the BS shoved down our throats over the past decade. You are going down. You will not take control of America and force us to live by your narrow-minded, fanatical views on life.

Wait... you think I'm a neocon...?

And what does this really have to do with my post...? I criticized the President's over-the-top response to what amounted to a stupid ad.

[leekohler]

Wait... you think I'm a neocon...?

And what does this really have to do with my post...? I criticized the President's over-the-top response to what amounted to a stupid ad.

I think you were misunderstood.

[Iscariot]

I think you were misunderstood.

I blame my moderate viewpoint and thick Canadian accent.

[leekohler]

I blame my moderate viewpoint and thick Canadian accent.

Haha! I love it. :)

[toontra]

You know- I'm beginning to get you. It's not that you're blind to what's going on, it's really that you actually support it. Whatever Bush does is OK with you- no matter how false, because it suits your ends whatever they may be.

Exactly. SL's been on my ignore list for over a year - nothing to learn there.

I wish people would stop rising to the bait and quoting him - that means I still see parts of his posts!

[Swarmlord]

<snip>because it suits your ends whatever they may be.

Isn't that why anyone supports any political leader or party and votes for them?

BTW, Bush has been a moderate disappointment to me and my goals, but he supports policies that are closer to them than either of the other two guys did. Not like I'm not going to vote just because I don't like either candidate.

[Swarmlord]

Exactly. SL's been on my ignore list for over a year - nothing to learn there.

I wish people would stop rising to the bait and quoting him - that means I still see parts of his posts!

You'll never learn anything ignoring people who you disagree with.

[Kashchei]

You'll never learn anything ignoring people who you disagree with.

That's quite true, but I'd like to turn the tables on you, Swarmlord. What have you learned from any of the liberals on MR? And let's avoid any cute statements like "what not to think." I have a feeling you haven't learned anything from any of us since you are not really using logic or reason in your political decision making process.

[leekohler]

That's quite true, but I'd like to turn the tables on you, Swarmlord. What have you learned from any of the liberals on MR? And let's avoid any cute statements like "what not to think." I have a feeling you haven't learned anything from any of us since you are not really using logic or reason in your political decision making process.

Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer.

Isn't that why anyone supports any political leader or party and votes for them?

BTW, Bush has been a moderate disappointment to me and my goals, but he supports policies that are closer to them than either of the other two guys did. Not like I'm not going to vote just because I don't like either candidate.

Truly frightening.

[LethalWolfe]

You'll never learn anything ignoring people who you disagree with.
But it only takes a few threads for people to learn pretty much all they need to know from you though. It's kinda like Friday the 13th movies. One doesn't need to watch all of them to realize how shallow and predictable those movies are.


Lethal

[Swarmlord]

That's quite true, but I'd like to turn the tables on you, Swarmlord. What have you learned from any of the liberals on MR? And let's avoid any cute statements like "what not to think." I have a feeling you haven't learned anything from any of us since you are not really using logic or reason in your political decision making process.

I learn a lot about the other half of the population that make up America. All my positions on political issues are reasoned based on my personal experience.

I don't understand what some of the posters are thinking when they make the statements that they do about me or my posts. I don't think they are aware of just how many people think and feel the way I do on issues.

[SMM]

I learn a lot about the other half of the population that make up America. All my positions on political issues are reasoned based on my personal experience.

I don't understand what some of the posters are thinking when they make the statements that they do about me or my posts. I don't think they are aware of just how many people think and feel the way I do on issues.

I cannot speak for anyone but myself, understand. And, you and I have never really cross swords (why is that - I post as much liberal commentary as anyone?). But, I will offer some observations.

The last percentage poll I have seen, had America divided; Conservative 38%, Moderate 44% and Liberal 18%. One seldom sees people's opinions move between liberal and conservative. Generally any change in position moves to moderate. The Country's overall bias usually is impacted by the moderate group moving conservative, or liberal.

America was founded on a liberal bias. Over the past couple decades, it has moved further, and further to the right. The results have been disastrous to those who still hold to the principles set forth in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Under the current administration, this Country has hit rock bottom. Moderates and Liberals are really pissed and want a regime change.

This Country is becoming a powder keg. There is little tolerance for those who are blindly ejaculating the same old WH/republican rhetoric. You are one of those still holding on to the same lies/policies which most perceive have landed us in this quagmire. This is what I observe, and like I said, it is only my opinion. I do not presume to speak for the other members directly.

[leekohler]

I cannot speak for anyone but myself, understand. And, you and I have never really cross swords (why is that - I post as much liberal commentary as anyone?). But, I will offer some observations.

The last percentage poll I have seen, had America divided; Conservative 38%, Moderate 44% and Liberal 18%. One seldom sees people's opinions move between liberal and conservative. Generally any change in position moves to moderate. The Country's overall bias usually is impacted by the moderate group moving conservative, or liberal.

America was founded on a liberal bias. Over the past couple decades, it has moved further, and further to the right. The results have been disastrous to those who still hold to the principles set forth in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Under the current administration, this Country has hit rock bottom. Moderates and Liberals are really pissed and want a regime change.

This Country is becoming a powder keg. There is little tolerance for those who are blindly ejaculating the same old WH/republican rhetoric. You are one of those still holding on to the same lies/policies which most perceive have landed us in this quagmire. This is what I observe, and like I said, it is only my opinion. I do not presume to speak for the other members directly.

I agree. And Swarmy, we're all too well aware of how many people think the way that you do.

[Dont Hurt Me]

Bush went after Saddam, not Osama the 911 dude. why ? Republicans:rolleyes: Smoke and mirrors.

[solvs]

That's quite true, but I'd like to turn the tables on you, Swarmlord. What have you learned from any of the liberals on MR? And let's avoid any cute statements like "what not to think." I have a feeling you haven't learned anything from any of us since you are not really using logic or reason in your political decision making process.
It's not just liberals, and as you can see, nothing.

I learn a lot about the other half of the population that make up America.
Try ~70% at this point, thanks to your side screwing so many things up.

All my positions on political issues are reasoned based on my personal experience.
Some of us prefer to base our opinions on facts and reality. I see an administration making mistake after mistake. Something I didn't see until they started doing it. I'd criticize someone with a (D) after their names for doing the same. And do. You decided they talk about stuff you agree with, so you ignore the execution and defend the mistakes, while criticizing the Dems for being too liberal when if you were actually paying attention, you'd know they were anything but.

I had you on ignore for awhile as well. Not because I don't like arguing those I disagree with. I like doing that. When I joined here, the % of libs and cons were reversed. But your reckless disregard for the guidelines and thinly veiled racism makes it hard to argue with you using facts and logic. When I try, I often feel like I'm just hitting my head against the wall. I'm sure you feel the same about some of us, but at least most of us try to base our argument on reality.

Again, if you can't see why we're as angry as Keith is as, I don't know what to tell you.

I don't understand what some of the posters are thinking when they make the statements that they do about me or my posts. I don't think they are aware of just how many people think and feel the way I do on issues.
At this point, a little less than 30% of the population. Unfortunately, a larger percentage of those in charge, with little resistance from those who don't. We make the comments we do because we sort of expect those who come here to know what's going on. For those who watch outlets like FOX and listen to talk radio, that's rarely the case.

If you'd like to back up some of your arguments sometime too (preferably from a real news source, or even a blog that can back up their opinion), that would be much appreciated.