I Just Took The Plunge [Archive]

zackwag

Sep 22, 2007, 06:02 AM

Pressure

Sep 22, 2007, 08:59 AM

That is a great system!

Hope you bought the ram elsewhere though, for a bit of saving :)

It will last you a long time.

bigbird

Sep 22, 2007, 10:25 AM

zackwag

Sep 22, 2007, 10:39 AM

Very nice choice. My tips are to get a copy of David Pogue's "The Missing Manual for OS X Tiger" from Amazon. That book explains everything you ever wanted to know about the OS in understandable detail. If you plan to update to the new OS 10.5 Leopard, which is due out in late October, then reserve that same book but about Leopard, not Tiger.

Thanks for the tip. I was wondering what if anything I should read to get acclimated to OSX.

As for the RAM, while I could very easily order and install some from OWC, I decided to just spring for the RAM from Cupertino so it will work out of the box.

My hope is get VMWare Fusion running so I can just dedicate one of the processors and half the ram to the virtual session if I need to do some work (ASP.NET programming) at home.

tobytoby

Sep 22, 2007, 10:46 AM

I bought a similar system - although 3.0 4-core - about a month ago. This was my first Mac for 10 years. I have to say there was a bit of an adjustment period from XP, but it was painless. I also bought Pogue's book before I got it and it was a good read, although I haven't really looked at it in the past couple of weeks.

Sean Dempsey

Sep 22, 2007, 12:10 PM

Thanks for the tip. I was wondering what if anything I should read to get acclimated to OSX.

As for the RAM, while I could very easily order and install some from OWC, I decided to just spring for the RAM from Cupertino so it will work out of the box.

My hope is get VMWare Fusion running so I can just dedicate one of the processors and half the ram to the virtual session if I need to do some work (ASP.NET programming) at home.

I am not sure if Fusion works that way.

Welcome to the Mac Pro Owners club - we're like 1000000 times cooler than the "waiting" club.

zackwag

Sep 22, 2007, 12:21 PM

I am not sure if Fusion works that way.
Oh. Well either way, the point is there should be enough resources for the Mac and virtualization to run well simultaneously.

Welcome to the Mac Pro Owners club - we're like 1000000 times cooler than the "waiting" club.
We'll see in a week!

Mr.Noisy

Sep 22, 2007, 02:33 PM

Congrats on a great purchase ;)

As for tips, Spend as much time as you can on the beastie, it WILL take over your life.......

FF_productions

Sep 22, 2007, 02:37 PM

Enjoy the Mac Pro!

I haven't pushed mine yet, its getting ridiculous!

These machines are beasts, despite the fact they haven't been updated in a LONG time.

darthraige

Sep 22, 2007, 02:51 PM

Damn. I feel like I should get one now too. My G4 is getting slower and slower by the minute. There is even a delay typing now. Do I wait til Tuesday to see if any magic happens? Or at least wait til Leopard? I will be pissed if I bought one now and a new one ships with Leopard.

plumbingandtech

Sep 22, 2007, 03:04 PM

Tips:

1) Visit Versiontracker.com or macupdate.com daily to see all the new software you can run on it.

Enjoy it!

darthraige

Sep 22, 2007, 03:34 PM

Welcome to the Mac Pro Owners club - we're like 1000000 times cooler than the "waiting" club.

And when new MacPros come out? Will we be a billion times cooler than the Old MacPro Owners Club?

Father Jack

Sep 22, 2007, 03:37 PM

Congrats ... great spec, great machine ..:)

shinji

Sep 22, 2007, 03:50 PM

Very nice- welcome aboard :apple:

Mr.Noisy

Sep 22, 2007, 05:01 PM

And when new MacPros come out? Will we be a billion times cooler than the Old MacPro Owners Club?

by the time you get your new MP's (sometime in 2008) we will be updating ours by the time yours are 12 months old making you the new old mac owners club, one big circle, yada yada yada
We are all up there with beastie machines, all equal in our choices at least we are all looking down on those poor peecee owners with windows and that ever present error box in the middle of the screen,
As mac users we should all live in peace ;)
not pieces :( as most windows users machines end up.

SDAVE

Sep 24, 2007, 05:47 AM

I couldn't wait any longer, so I took the plunge and bought a Mac Pro. Here's the specs:

Both Bluetooth 2.0+EDR and AirPort Extreme
iWork '08 preinstalled
Apple Wireless Keyboard and Apple wireless Mighty Mouse - U.S. English
Two 16x SuperDrives
Accessory kit
Two 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Mac OS X - U.S. English
4GB (4 x 1GB)
250GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
ATI Radeon X1900 XT 512MB (2 x dual-link DVI)

This is going to be my first Macintosh. Any tips :D?

Nice man! Congrats. I love this machine.

You could've went the refurb route, I saw them going for $3,349 with 2GB of RAM and an ATI X1900...but oh well! I wish I could get the refurb so I could squeeze in a 30" ACD, because I paid $4,300 (Minus the RAM) in the first place...but it's all good.

Have fun with the Ferarri :D

n8mac

Sep 24, 2007, 07:02 AM

...I feel like I should get one now too. My G4 is getting slower and slower by the minute. There is even a delay typing now...

O.T.
Computers don't normally slow to the point where they can't keep up when you type these days if you keep them clean. And when I say clean I mean inside and out. I am typing this on a G4 400 and it is as fast as new. I make sure I delete stuff off the main hd to keep ample space open. I put in more ram so I never page. Plus I airhosed the interior. Lots of dust. We also have a new mouse, keyboard and Tiger making it feel new. Of course you could have seen a MP in action and now everything else feels like slow motion.

Now on topic, I am jealous of all you MP owners ;)

darthraige

Sep 24, 2007, 09:48 AM

O.T.
Computers don't normally slow to the point where they can't keep up when you type these days if you keep them clean. And when I say clean I mean inside and out. I am typing this on a G4 400 and it is as fast as new. I make sure I delete stuff off the main hd to keep ample space open. I put in more ram so I never page. Plus I airhosed the interior. Lots of dust. We also have a new mouse, keyboard and Tiger making it feel new. Of course you could have seen a MP in action and now everything else feels like slow motion.

Now on topic, I am jealous of all you MP owners ;)

Oops, I guess I forgot to mention I was running Final Cut Pro Renders, Photoshop, and Compressing a lot on it too at the time of typing. haha.

suneohair

Sep 24, 2007, 11:18 AM

I'm wavering...

netdog

Sep 24, 2007, 11:30 AM

I find myself wavering too. The 2.66 down at the store is looking awfully tempting.

I'm without a desktop and running everything off the MBP.

darthraige

Sep 24, 2007, 11:54 AM

I'm wavering...

So no one thinks Apple will ship a new MacPro with Leopard? I still think they will. If not, I buy when Leopard comes out. Don't care anymore.

netdog

Sep 24, 2007, 12:27 PM

So no one thinks Apple will ship a new MacPro with Leopard? I still think they will. If not, I buy when Leopard comes out. Don't care anymore.

Don't let Multi hear you say that. God, I hope he is right about an announcement by November.

bigbird

Sep 24, 2007, 12:49 PM

Now that Apple today announced that Leopard will not run on anything G4 800 Mhz or lower, I'm waiting for a MP with Leopard installed. Even if an new MP is announced tomorrow, I'm waiting until it would ship with Leopard. With a PowerMac G4 733 and Imac G4 800, I can't buy and install Leopard anyways. Why pay an extra $100+ for Leopard when it will come included on my next MP.

giganten

Sep 24, 2007, 01:07 PM

I want a MP too. But i dont know if I should wait for Leopard or just use my laptop now, and get a MP 1 year from now or something.

darthraige

Sep 24, 2007, 01:26 PM

Don't let Multi hear you say that. God, I hope he is right about an announcement by November.

Well, we can only hope that there will be some really good confirmed news by then about a new MacPro. Then I would wait.

SDAVE

Sep 24, 2007, 04:51 PM

So no one thinks Apple will ship a new MacPro with Leopard? I still think they will. If not, I buy when Leopard comes out. Don't care anymore.

Join the dark side :D

zackwag

Sep 25, 2007, 04:17 PM

Man,

Tom Petty had it right: the waiting is the hardest part! They say the system should ship 9/25 - 9/27 so it'll probably be 9/27. But I want it nowwww.....!

:p

Mr.Noisy

Sep 25, 2007, 05:50 PM

Man,

Tom Petty had it right: the waiting is the hardest part! They say the system should ship 9/25 - 9/27 so it'll probably be 9/27. But I want it nowwww.....!

:p

the wait will be worth it, but when it arrives, remember to bend your knee's when you pick it up, the MP isn't exactly a lightweight, ive lifted lighter refridgerators :p the time will soon fly, ,mine arrived 3 days ahead of ETA, it arrived 2 hours after the extra 3 hard drives and speakers arrived from a third party supplier, so i had a great few days .................. let the good times roll :D

darthraige

Sep 25, 2007, 06:58 PM

Man,

Tom Petty had it right: the waiting is the hardest part! They say the system should ship 9/25 - 9/27 so it'll probably be 9/27. But I want it nowwww.....!

Wait, you just bought a MacPro? What if new ones get announced with Leopard? Will you be pissed?

MacRumorUser

Sep 25, 2007, 07:28 PM

This is going to be my first Macintosh. Any tips :D?

Don't forget to pay the CC bill ;):)

Enjoy your new & first mac.

SDAVE

Sep 25, 2007, 07:33 PM

Wait, you just bought a MacPro? What if new ones get announced with Leopard? Will you be pissed?

Some people won't be committing suicide because of this, ya know...It's just a computer guys. :apple:

darthraige

Sep 25, 2007, 07:49 PM

Some people won't be committing suicide because of this, ya know...It's just a computer guys. :apple:

Yea, but, if its going to cut my encoding time in half, its all worth it for what I do. I can wait. :)

SDAVE

Sep 25, 2007, 08:08 PM

Yea, but, if its going to cut my encoding time in half, its all worth it for what I do. I can wait. :)

By half? I don't think Intel has gone that far yet with their processors. Unless you're comparing a Quad to an Octo core...

Spikeanator6982

Sep 25, 2007, 09:03 PM

By half? I don't think Intel has gone that far yet with their processors. Unless you're comparing a Quad to an Octo core...

I would assume he was talking about quad to octo..since..they SHOULD go to all octo..or at least a octo for the same price as the current 2.66 quad, bc they are the same prices for the processors.

darthraige

Sep 25, 2007, 09:20 PM

By half? I don't think Intel has gone that far yet with their processors. Unless you're comparing a Quad to an Octo core...

Quad to Octo my good man. Want an Octo machine.

SDAVE

Sep 25, 2007, 09:26 PM

Quad to Octo my good man. Want an Octo machine.

My guess is they'll probably offer a 3.0Ghz Quad Core for the "Base" with newer processors. So I doubt they'll offer the Clovertowns as base.

Spikeanator6982

Sep 25, 2007, 09:44 PM

My guess is they'll probably offer a 3.0Ghz Quad Core for the "Base" with newer processors. So I doubt they'll offer the Clovertowns as base.

Aren't the 2.83 quad penryns the same price as the 2.66 dual woodcrests were when they came out? So they should be able to offer them at the same price point as the current "base".

doing all oct mac pro line, would i think open apple to have another computer line inbetween the imac, and mac pro.

suneohair

Sep 25, 2007, 09:49 PM

My guess is they'll probably offer a 3.0Ghz Quad Core for the "Base" with newer processors. So I doubt they'll offer the Clovertowns as base.

No they will offer Harpertowns as base.

SDAVE

Sep 25, 2007, 10:30 PM

No they will offer Harpertowns as base.

Didn't I just say that? 3.0Ghz Quad from whatever newer line Intel has.

SDAVE

Sep 25, 2007, 10:32 PM

Aren't the 2.83 quad penryns the same price as the 2.66 dual woodcrests were when they came out? So they should be able to offer them at the same price point as the current "base".

doing all oct mac pro line, would i think open apple to have another computer line inbetween the imac, and mac pro.

Thing is, when they upgrade to newer processors, they have to change motherboards etc...they want to use newer components with higher Front Side Busses, so putting in a Clovertown or a Woodcrest in a newer motherboard which has 1600Mhz FSB and higher speed RAM will yield to bad results. It's not as simple as putting processors...

suneohair

Sep 25, 2007, 10:46 PM

Didn't I just say that? 3.0Ghz Quad from whatever newer line Intel has.

Of course you realize that the quad-core chips in the Harpertown line are the same price as the current Woodcrests, right?

Your proposal would more than likely mean a price drop if 3.0Ghz dual-cores are offered as the base. Of course, I will continue to point out the problem with your suggestion shortly.

If Apple decides to go 1600Mhz bus, that poses a problem for your prediction. As the only dual core 1600Mhz chip will be 3.4Ghz and will be priced at $1,172 http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8656

Of course the dailytech article leads us to believe there will be more dual core 1600Mhz bus chips. But, at nearly $1200 for 3.4Ghz I can't imagine what the others will cost. And, with 2.83Ghz quad-cores at nearly half the price, $690, I don't see the point in offering dual core chips any longer.

Now, there are the Wolfdales, the dual core version of the 1333 Harpertowns. The closest speed to what you are proposing is the 3.33Ghz chip, priced at $851. Again, a quad-core Mac Pro would cost more than an all octo-core line base model, based on these figures.

There is the 1.86Ghz Wolfdale priced at only $177. But that would be a step backwards from the current lowest option of 2.0Ghz. Apple could do it, but it wouldn't be the base model.

So, your assumptions are way off. As I, and others have said an all octo Mac Pro line is very likely. I understand what you are attempting to do, but do some research first. Because the chip you want to use doesn't even exist.

Spikeanator6982

Sep 25, 2007, 10:46 PM

Thing is, when they upgrade to newer processors, they have to change motherboards etc...they want to use newer components with higher Front Side Busses, so putting in a Clovertown or a Woodcrest in a newer motherboard which has 1600Mhz FSB and higher speed RAM will yield to bad results. It's not as simple as putting processors...

I said the 2.83 quad penryns, which is the harpertown processors, which one go with the SS MB etc. I never said they would put clovertown or woodcrest, they would have to be stupid to do that.

SDAVE

Sep 25, 2007, 10:51 PM

So, your assumptions are way off. As I, and others have said an all octo Mac Pro line is very likely.

An all octo core Clovertown setup? Makes no sense (just like most of your posts). Apple only wants to change the CPU's during a BTO, not change RAM and the motherboard.

From what I've seen, Apple is either going to go to the 1600Mhz FSB w/ newer processors/Ram/Motherboard, or it's going to stick with the current line and offer the 2.66 8 Core as "Base".

I'm sure they have the dilemma of how to do it right.

suneohair

Sep 25, 2007, 10:52 PM

An all octo core Clovertown setup? Makes no sense (just like most of your posts). Apple only wants to change the CPU's during a BTO, not change RAM and the motherboard.

From what I've seen, Apple is either going to go to the 1600Mhz FSB w/ newer processors/Ram/Motherboard, or it's going to stick with the current line and offer the 2.66 8 Core as "Base".

I'm sure they have the dilemma of how to do it right.

Are you an idiot? Who the hell said Clovertown? Read the post.

SDAVE

Sep 25, 2007, 10:56 PM

I said the 2.83 quad penryns, which is the harpertown processors, which one go with the SS MB etc. I never said they would put clovertown or woodcrest, they would have to be stupid to do that.

Well yes, but then you have to wait a while longer even after the official Intel launch...or Apple might have a deal with Intel.

I don't get it, why did this thread turn into a "waiting club"-esque thread? The OP specifically said right in the subject line that he "took the plunge".

Stop going off topic. When I post something about not waiting, people like suno-whatever go crazy.

SDAVE

Sep 25, 2007, 10:56 PM

Are you an idiot? Who the hell said Clovertown? Read the post.

How old are you seriously? No older than 18 I suppose. Probably with a mental disorder.

Go back to your waiting club thread. Stop filling this thread with junk.

suneohair

Sep 25, 2007, 10:59 PM

How old are you seriously? No older than 18 I suppose. Probably with a mental disorder.

Go back to your waiting club thread. Stop filling this thread with junk.

You mean like you are doing by posting crap? You can hardly claim I have a mental disorder when you 1: Can't research to form educated opinions 2: Can't read posts properly because twice you said Clovertowns when no one was talking about Clovertowns.

Move along SDAVE. You are just making a fool of yourself.