Rumor: $399 40GB PS3....this week? [Archive]

zero2dash

Sep 24, 2007, 04:05 PM

Two steps forward, one step back.

Seriously, I'm so jaded by all the "Ps3 price drop" talk and speculation; compared to what they've delivered - thus far, it's a huge letdown IMO. "We want you to buy one, but you don't want to pay for it. So, here, you cheapskate, take a crippled system and save your bucks but get it anyway." Come on. I'm not saying I want my cake & eat it too, but their cost cutting methods are really disheartening.

I stand by my "used 20 gig Ps3 or nothing" mentality. When I get one, it'll be a used 20 gig. a) because I don't need the disk space, wireless, or the kitchen sink + bagel toaster add ons and b) because I'd rather spend the least amount possible to get the system capable of playing GoW3, WipeOut HD, Kz2, PixelJunk Racers, and HS.

GFLPraxis

Sep 24, 2007, 04:29 PM

The last part makes no sense. Removing USB ports would remove support for most peripherals and even disallow you from hooking up the controllers, since PS3 controllers use them, and it wouldn't make a significant price difference.

Backwards compatibility is all done on emulation with the newer models.

I call FUD.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a $399 PS3 though. Maybe 40 GB. We're talking about two rumors though. The SkyNews one claims the 80 GB model will drop in price and lose something. The common rumor is that there will be a 40 GB model at $399.

ChrisK018

Sep 24, 2007, 04:48 PM

Even if the PS3 costs as much as a bare-bones Wii I still have not seen any unique must have PS3 games in the particular genres that I like. [And the 'affordable blu-ray player' reason does not do it for me either].

I want to have a good excuse to get a PS3, but I still don't see one.

MacRumorUser

Sep 24, 2007, 05:16 PM

Removing USB ports would also mean you couldn't charge your damn wireless controller? Doesnt make sense.

I'd say a 40gb SKU will basically just be the 20gb model with a 40gb HDD instead. Period.

twoodcc

Sep 24, 2007, 05:41 PM

yeah i don't see them dropping the usb ports.

give me gran turismo 5 (the real game) and i'll buy a ps3......eventually

2nyRiggz

Sep 24, 2007, 05:53 PM

This smells fishy.....I wouldn't past sony to drop a bomb like this then ruin it with the USB thing. removing the USB ports don't sound very inteligent IMO....How will I charge the controller?

Bless

gkarris

Sep 25, 2007, 03:28 PM

This smells fishy.....I wouldn't past sony to drop a bomb like this then ruin it with the USB thing. removing the USB ports don't sound very inteligent IMO....How will I charge the controller?

Bless

I haven't seen the video but maybe they mean the memory card slot? I don't think anyone is really using those...

e²Studios

Sep 25, 2007, 05:41 PM

This rumor was started by M$.. its false.. Sony has said there will be only 1 sku.. It's not going to happen.

http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=79320

Motley

Sep 26, 2007, 02:18 PM

This rumor was started by M$.. its false.. Sony has said there will be only 1 sku.. It's not going to happen.

http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=79320

And Sony said it was impossible to put rumble in their controller.

Antares

Sep 26, 2007, 02:33 PM

And Sony said it was impossible to put rumble in their controller.

"impossible" and "not currently possible" are very different things.

Coded-Dude

Sep 26, 2007, 03:57 PM

Sony was in litigation with Immersion when said comments were made, and thats good reason to be "not-so-forthcoming."

gkarris

Sep 27, 2007, 04:19 PM

This rumor was started by M$.. its false.. Sony has said there will be only 1 sku.. It's not going to happen.

http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=79320

If Sony doesn't have a $399 version PS3 this holiday - they'll just have to be happy with "distant 3rd"...

sikkinixx

Sep 30, 2007, 12:49 PM

http://kotaku.com/gaming/coming-soon/blu+ray-savings-page-lists-new-ps3-model-305242.php

and the plot gets thicker...

Antares

Oct 1, 2007, 12:52 PM

That's probably just the 80GB model with the Dual Shock 3 controller or the 80GB model without the pack-in game. Or..it's the new the 160GB model...or, it's the upcoming PS3 Slim. Or...I have no idea. :confused:

And if they're truly extending the 5 free movies promotion, one would hope that they have a better selection of "free" movies. The ones from the last promotion were not that enticing.

Coded-Dude

Oct 1, 2007, 02:00 PM

rumor: they will release the 160GB model at $599, drop the price of the 80GB model, and sell all remaining 60GB models at a reduced price($399 maybe) to clear stock yet again.

gkarris

Oct 2, 2007, 01:51 AM

rumor: they will release the 160GB model at $599, drop the price of the 80GB model, and sell all remaining 60GB models at a reduced price($399 maybe) to clear stock yet again.

Yep, Sony said the $499 60Gig model would only last until the end of July. Here it is October and I still see a ton of them in the stores...

sikkinixx

Oct 2, 2007, 10:03 AM

Apparently a leaked Bestbuy stock form says that a 40GB model w/ spiderman is due at the end of the month.

I just hope if this is true that people will finally stop whining about the PS3's price and stating that it is d00m3d

Dagless

Oct 2, 2007, 11:04 AM

^ would be nice if true. But if it really is stock clearance (again) then the $399 won't last.

I wonder if we'll see any price changes here? lol, I almost convinced myself!

gkarris

Oct 2, 2007, 11:11 AM

^ would be nice if true. But if it really is stock clearance (again) then the $399 won't last.

I wonder if we'll see any price changes here? lol, I almost convinced myself!

Plus, both the HD DVD and Blu-ray camps have new 5 free movie deals (the old deal ended in September) that last through the holidays.

The new free titles are still a bit shakey, hey but 5 free movies are 5 free movies!!!

zero2dash

Oct 2, 2007, 11:28 AM

40 gig Ps3 popped up in the UPC code database
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/02/rumor-40gb-ps3-shows-up-in-upc-database/

Looks like this is true; just waiting for Sony to confirm I suppose. :confused:

Good idea, they need it right now especially with the holidays coming up.
Microsoft is rumored to be putting together some 360 w 2 game pack in bundles for the holidays as well. Man shopping this year is going to be ugly...good thing we do all our Christmas shopping in Oct./Nov. :D

Motley

Oct 2, 2007, 01:00 PM

I just hope if this is true that people will finally stop whining about the PS3's price and stating that it is d00m3d

You should know better than that. It will become "Look how desperate Sony is, PS3 is doomed":D

2nyRiggz

Oct 2, 2007, 02:00 PM

Good idea, they need it right now especially with the holidays coming up.
Microsoft is rumored to be putting together some 360 w 2 game pack in bundles for the holidays as well. Man shopping this year is going to be ugly...good thing we do all our Christmas shopping in Oct./Nov. :D

Hopefully MS will put those new chips/heatsink in all 360 just in time for the holidays and make it a real deal.

I see another boost in sales if Sony pulls this off then we could really focus on games and online stuff and stop worrying about whos not making enough money.

....I wonder if this is the Big Bang happening on Oct. 12th.....maybe sony acquired another "important" studio....take two

Bless

gkarris

Oct 2, 2007, 03:32 PM

This Engadget article says Best Buy has it in their system for an Oct. 28 release date:

http://gaming.engadget.com/2007/10/02/sonys-399-ps3-confirmed-by-best-buy/

zero2dash

Oct 2, 2007, 04:11 PM

Hopefully MS will put those new chips/heatsink in all 360 just in time for the holidays and make it a real deal.

I read something on Joystiq the other day about the Halo 3 360s having the Falcon 65nm cpu...I would expect that any future bundles and/or systems that aren't already on store shelves will be the new Falcon models. (or so we can all hope at least)

Sounds like everyone's on damage control (Microsoft more than the others)...
Overheating 360s, faulty wheels for MS
Weak Wii straps, busted flying controllers for Nintendo
Sticker shock for Sony

So far though it seems like all three are rectifying their problems to the best of their abilities :o

2nyRiggz

Oct 5, 2007, 12:10 PM

http://www.scee.presscentre.com/Content/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=4434&

Rumor no more......It has everything you need to work as a gaming console and more...good job.

Now lets kill the rumors of no ports/wifi and lets get more great games going.

Specs:
PLAYSTATION®3 40GB Specification
Product name PLAYSTATION®3
CPU Cell Broadband Engine™ Processor
GPU RSX™
Sound Dolby 5.1ch, DTS 5.1ch , LPCM 7.1ch, AAC,
others *1 *2
Memory 256MB XDR Main RAM, 256MB GDDR3 VRAM
HDD 2.5” Serial ATA 40GB
I/O USB 2.0 x2
Communication Ethernet x1 (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX,
1000BASE-T)
IEEE 802.11 b/g Included
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR) Included
Wireless controller (Bluetooth) Included
AV Output
Screen size 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI OUT x1 *3
AV MULTI OUT x1
DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x1
BD/DVD/CD Drive
(Read Only) Maximum Read Speed BD 2x (BD-ROM)
DVD 8x (DVD-ROM)
CD 24x (CD-ROM)
Dimensions Approximately 325mm (W) x 98mm (H) x 274mm (D)
Weight Approximately 5 kg

Bless

zero2dash

Oct 5, 2007, 12:25 PM

Nice job, looks like a nice balance of what you need and nothing you don't. Again, I could do without the memory stick slots and the wireless for the extra price, which is why I had planned on getting a used 20 gig sometime next year, but I may just pick up one of these instead since it'd be 'new'.

In all honesty I could care less about the B/C, my Ps2 slim isn't going anywhere. ;) (especially when I finally mod it :D)

Dagless

Oct 5, 2007, 12:53 PM

Wow, a huge leap forward there.

But

The new model is no longer backwards compatible with PlayStation®2 titles

See, why doesn't it play older games? Isn't it all software emulated now? Making it a complete no-buy for me since I've got an army of PS2 games to play (or should Sony advise me on buying both a PS2 and 3? :rolleyes: ).

silly silly silly.

gkarris

Oct 5, 2007, 01:57 PM

Is it only for Europe?

Sony HAS to do this to remain competitive with Nintendo and MS...

Are the 20 Gigs available at Gamestop going to go down in price too?

Coded-Dude

Oct 5, 2007, 02:20 PM

Wow, a huge leap forward there.

But

See, why doesn't it play older games? Isn't it all software emulated now? Making it a complete no-buy for me since I've got an army of PS2 games to play (or should Sony advise me on buying both a PS2 and 3? :rolleyes: ).

silly silly silly.

First its to expensive, now it doesn't have enough features. :rolleyes: silly silly silly.
I doubt Sony will ever satisfy you jimmi.

btw - you've got an army of PS2 games and no PS2? :confused:

Dagless

Oct 5, 2007, 03:05 PM

Antares

Oct 5, 2007, 03:35 PM

So, it has no USB ports?

Dagless

Oct 5, 2007, 03:38 PM

So, it has no USB ports?

It has 2.

gkarris

Oct 5, 2007, 03:46 PM

Yes I do, I started collecting apparently good PS2 games when the PS3 was hailed as this uber device, then things went downhill. They're still waiting. Okami, Ico, SotC and various fighting and shmups (R-Type Final, I get to play thee yet). Also got all my PS1 games and a dead PS1.

Can you not see (wait, silly question to ask you :D ) it being slightly retarded to remove the feature to play PS2 games? We've had software emulation in the PS3 in Europe since day 1. That means there is nothing physical to take out, they're not saving money by doing this. They are just flicking a virtual switch in the system that says "no to B/C".

I see the point of the other ports being removed. Though aren't USB ports and memory card readers 10 a penny these days? If anything you'd have though they would have removed something costly like a smaller HDD...

Still this whole thing defies logic. Still good news for the PS3. But still mind bending with b/c.

Here in the US, people didn't take too kindly to this $599 "uber device" - hence getting pounded by the $399 XB360 and the $249 Wii. You can just buy the $399 one and take the extra and buy a $129 PS2. That's what Nintendo was touting back in the NES to SNES days since the SNES was incompatible...

I don't go putting my digicam cards in my game consoles to see my photos, nor do I need a super large hard drive or 4 USB ports to charge my controllers (that's really all they're used for on a PS3).

Sony did right finally. Also, the industry did say Sony released the PS3 a year early. Well, it's been about a year and the real, $399 PS3 has finally arrived.

I can't wait to get one....

gloss

Oct 5, 2007, 04:09 PM

Can you not see (wait, silly question to ask you :D ) it being slightly retarded to remove the feature to play PS2 games? We've had software emulation in the PS3 in Europe since day 1. That means there is nothing physical to take out, they're not saving money by doing this. They are just flicking a virtual switch in the system that says "no to B/C".

Actually, even the European PS3s had the PS2's GPU built in. It was the CPU (the Emotion Engine) that was removed and replaced with software emulation. I guess these new PS3s do away with the GPU as well.

Really lame.

Just get a PS2 and be happy with the games you got, Jimmi. It'll be better than almost anything you can get on the PS3 right now anyway.

yeti5d

Oct 5, 2007, 04:21 PM

bad move too cut the support for ps2 games, good price but still a bad move though .... :(

Jovian9

Oct 5, 2007, 04:29 PM

The new model is no longer backwards compatible with PlayStation®2 titles, reflecting both the reduced emphasis placed on this feature amongst later purchasers of PS3, as well as the availability of a more extensive line-up of PS3 specific titles (a total of 65 titles across all genres by Christmas).

Haha. That's funny....considering how many people have bought a PS3 to have such a big influence on this aspect. I get upset with Sony as much as anyone....but I wouldn't mind having a PS3...and at this price it makes it more likely that I'd eventually get one. But backwards compatibility makes it an absolutely worthless machine to me. The Wii and 360 are better machines than this "cheaper" version b/c they can play previous gen games (maybe not all, but some) whereas the NEW PS3 40GB Version (that is coming out 2 years after the 360 and 1 year after the Wii) cannot play anything from the massively successful PS2 and it's library. There is no need to have a PS2 as well as a PS3 when the PS3 is supposed to be the uber system. The PS3 should take care of both gens of games. That is ridiculous! And didn't Sony mention not too long ago that they wanted to have just 1 machine? It's like Sony WANTS to make me not spend my money on their products :p

gkarris

Oct 5, 2007, 04:41 PM

Haha. That's funny....considering how many people have bought a PS3 to have such a big influence on this aspect. I get upset with Sony as much as anyone....but I wouldn't mind having a PS3...and at this price it makes it more likely that I'd eventually get one. But backwards compatibility makes it an absolutely worthless machine to me. The Wii and 360 are better machines than this "cheaper" version b/c they can play previous gen games (maybe not all, but some) whereas the NEW PS3 40GB Version (that is coming out 2 years after the 360 and 1 year after the Wii) cannot play anything from the massively successful PS2 and it's library. There is no need to have a PS2 as well as a PS3 when the PS3 is supposed to be the uber system. The PS3 should take care of both gens of games. That is ridiculous! And didn't Sony mention not too long ago that they wanted to have just 1 machine? It's like Sony WANTS to make me not spend my money on their products :p

It's a matter of how far advanced a company wants to make its next gen console.

Even the 360 isn't ENTIRELY backwards compatible and my understanding is the 360 has to download a compatibility patch for each XBox game you want to play on it.

The Wii is just a slightly more advanced GC with a regular DVD drive and motion controllers, so backwards compatibility on that system is a breeze.

Sony wanted to be really far advanced and did so with the Cell proccessor, the latest GPU and Blu-ray, which essentially made backwards compatibility too hard without having some of the old chips in there.

This new unit plus a PS2 is cheaper than the older $599 PS3 by itself...

Coded-Dude

Oct 5, 2007, 04:50 PM

Sony wanted to be really far advanced and did so with the Cell proccessor, the latest GPU and Blu-ray, which essentially made backwards compatibility too hard without having some of the old chips in there.
No they are aiming for full SW emulation, but were rushed to market by MS and merely slapped in the EE+GS and said: "We'll fix it later." I wonder if they will charge "Core" owners to upgrade once they achieve full S/W emulation?
gloss is correct - the Emotion Engine was removed at European launch, but the Graphics Synthesizer remained. Something to do with the trouble emulating the processing speed of the GS. It(graphics synthesizer) was placed between the Reality Synthesizer (RSX) and its connections to the HDMI transmitter by Silicon Image and a Sony in house chip called CXM*02*R. As expected, the 32 MB RD RAM chips, legacy of the PS2, have been removed as well. This new setup enabled Sony to cut the CXD9208GP chip, which previously connected the EE+GS chip to the CXM*02*R and the RSX. The Chip is estimated to cost about $30, which is minimal , but this "core" model is for the price conscious users(and the whiny ones too :p). Like I have said before if you want the features you can pay for them.

2nyRiggz

Oct 5, 2007, 05:11 PM

I'm sorry but for the people whos now talking about this isn't good and no BC....there are over 120 million PS2's out there(practically every gamer has one) and this machine is for ones that want to take that plunge into the next gen playstation without the bulky price....good move sony. Everything is there....wifi, HDD, HDMI, Blu-ray,2 USB ports...BC wasn't that big of a deal to most.

USB is still there for all the card reader extentions your heart desire. This is how Sony will get those PS2 clinger into the next gen.

Everything is still there besides 2 ports and BC. I think Sony will grab a few heads on this model but the games are still needed.....the games are starting to flow in and thats the real thing that will pull it all together.

Bless

Dagless

Oct 5, 2007, 05:56 PM

GFLPraxis

Oct 5, 2007, 06:17 PM

I'd go out and buy a PS2 except for the impossibility of playing one. Unless I plug it into my amp and play by ear? Since my TV hasn't got a composite or S-video in.

Sorta scrubs a PS2 off the 'to buy' list...

What are you talking about? What DOES your TV have then? I guarantee you can get a converter box for cheap.
The PS2 hooks up in the same manner as the GameCube.

GFLPraxis

Oct 5, 2007, 06:24 PM

So the real question is, when does this hit the US?

Coded-Dude

Oct 5, 2007, 06:28 PM

PS2 also supports component..... ;)
http://www.amazon.com/Pro-Component-AV-Cable-PlayStation/dp/B00005MDZE

sikkinixx

Oct 5, 2007, 07:26 PM

No B/C? ****ing Sony... Nice way to confuse consumers even more.

Still... the ignorant fools who bought a Core 360 will be the ones to buy this gimped PS3.

Sky Blue

Oct 5, 2007, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by Ed H
This rumor was started by M$.. its false.. Sony has said there will be only 1 sku.. It's not going to happen.

lulz

Dagless

Oct 5, 2007, 11:02 PM

Got an email from Dabs or somewhere with the new PS3 price.

Whilst it's cool and all they're also stocking the 360 Pro for £200.

Cat and mouse. Until Wii sales die down I suppose we won't see a price cut there.

NATO

Oct 6, 2007, 03:31 AM

Interesting that they're knocking the price of the 60GB Model from £425 to £349. Typical... I thought it was late enough in the year for the price to be fixed for Christmas, but it appears I bought mine 3 days too early :( Ah well, I got a ton of games and Blu-Ray movies bundled in for that price, I imagine the new price won't be so heavily subsidised.

BBC Have got in on the story too (linky) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7030164.stm)

Actually Sony's official news story (http://uk.playstation.com/ps3/news/articles/detail/item80772/Entertainment-like-you’ve-never-seen-before/) confirms this, but interestingly they're killing off the 60GB Model:

"Remaining on sale while stocks last, the 60GB model represents outstanding value for the keen gamer wishing to upgrade to the High Definition capabilities of PS3. Once stocks are exhausted the new 40GB model will be the only one available in the SCEE territories."

Much Ado

Oct 6, 2007, 11:26 AM

So let me get this right (I'm not a gaming guru):

They dropped 60Gb to 40Gb and dropped B/C?

That's fine if you don't need to play PS2 games, right?

sikkinixx

Oct 6, 2007, 11:52 AM

So let me get this right (I'm not a gaming guru):

They dropped 60Gb to 40Gb and dropped B/C?

That's fine if you don't need to play PS2 games, right?

yup basically. I guess they think that their library will be big enough this fall to accommodate losing the huge (and still going strong) PS2 library.

A big question is if PSone games are still B/C since they were completely software emulated unlike PS2 games which still used the PS2 graphics chip.

Much Ado

Oct 6, 2007, 01:22 PM

So for the guy who owns no PS2 games, a good deal? How important is that 20Gb?

sikkinixx

Oct 6, 2007, 01:28 PM

So for the guy who owns no PS2 games, a good deal? How important is that 20Gb?

thats what their betting on

GFLPraxis

Oct 6, 2007, 02:57 PM

So for the guy who owns no PS2 games, a good deal? How important is that 20Gb?

It's not. You can always buy a cheap SATA drive off of NewEgg later.

IscariotJ

Oct 6, 2007, 02:57 PM

This new unit plus a PS2 is cheaper than the older $599 PS3 by itself...

This is has been my thinking all along. I've currently an original "brick" PS2, still going strong. A £299 40GB PS3 is *very* tempting, especially when I can pick up a PSTwo if/when the PS2 dies, carry enjoy playing all my PS2 titles, and still have paid less than a 60GB model. The B/C isn't 100%, anyway, is it?

Dagless

Oct 6, 2007, 05:18 PM

So what happens with the PS3 Rock Band game with it's proprietary wireless adapters and people who buy the 2 USB port PS3? A bit screwed no?

sikkinixx

Oct 6, 2007, 05:26 PM

So what happens with the PS3 Rock Band game with it's proprietary wireless adapters and people who buy the 2 USB port PS3? A bit screwed no?

USB Hub.

Much Ado

Oct 6, 2007, 05:28 PM

This thread is giving me an unnatural attraction towards this new PS3. Am i mad, ignorant, or both?

Dagless

Oct 6, 2007, 05:28 PM

Lovely, more things to buy to just play a game.

sikkinixx

Oct 6, 2007, 06:21 PM

Lovely, more things to buy to just play a game.

what about on the 360? For a lot of people (me included) it only has 2 USB ports available so whatcha gonna do? If you are paying $170USD for a game you can afford a $10 USB hub

gkarris

Oct 6, 2007, 07:07 PM

I just read this article:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/825/825213p1.html

and it makes no mention that this will be available in the US.

Also, it will retail for 299 GBP, which is about US$600?

So, I *think* we are stuck with the $499 and when that runs out, the $599...

Anyone hear anything different?

2nyRiggz

Oct 6, 2007, 07:59 PM

Lovely, more things to buy to just play a game.

Sounding like the wii everyday isn't it...:D

I think this will come stateside after the 60 is done then there will only be the 60 and 80. The 40 is garnered at persons wanting the PS3 and don't care about BC and I guess we'll see how it turns out.

Bless

Dagless

Oct 6, 2007, 08:25 PM

Sounding like the wii everyday isn't it...:D

How so?

sikkinixx

Oct 6, 2007, 08:29 PM

How so?

I think he means stuff like the Wii Fit board, the Wii Zapper, stuff like that.

Dagless

Oct 6, 2007, 08:31 PM

I think he means stuff like the Wii Fit board, the Wii Zapper, stuff like that.

Ah, you mean devices that don't need to be used to play a game?

2nyRiggz

Oct 6, 2007, 09:03 PM

Ah, you mean devices that don't need to be used to play a game?

Really...looks like you WILL be needing the wii pad to play wii fit unless we could stand on the remote without it breaking.

I see no reason for you to bring that up when your console of choice is pushing out extra things to buy everyday to play a game...required or not.

Maybe you are just looking for negatives..

Bless

Dagless

Oct 6, 2007, 09:22 PM

Really...looks like you WILL be needing the wii pad to play wii fit unless we could stand on the remote without it breaking.

I see no reason for you to bring that up when your console of choice is pushing out extra things to buy everyday to play a game...required or not.

Maybe you are just looking for negatives..

Bless

WiiFit is a game?

What extra things to buy?
Wii remote, nunchuck are needed. The rest aren't.

It's not like you have to buy USB hubs, HD video cables and other things that should have been included in the box to begin with.

2nyRiggz

Oct 6, 2007, 09:32 PM

WiiFit is a game?

May not be a game but the pad is needed to interact with the product....I don't see wiis coming with a foot pad.

The 40gig has everything you need to play a PS3 game and more....if you want extra usb ports then thats on you...2 is enough so try again to come up with some lame reason why Sony screwed up.

Bless

Dagless

Oct 6, 2007, 10:02 PM

so try again to come up with some lame reason why Sony screwed up.

Don't have to, they aleady removed the PS2 compatibility.

Crazy thing is my girlfriend was so pro-Sony. With this announcement she lolled too. It must only be the hardcore fans who aren't laughing at this whole b/c situation.

New iMacs this Tuesday, £100 off but with a lock out chip to prevent installations of XP :rolleyes: .

sikkinixx

Oct 6, 2007, 11:05 PM

Jovian9

Oct 7, 2007, 01:19 AM

thing is, if they DIDN'T lower the price, people (like you Jimmi) would whine even more. They are probably still losing money so cutting a few corners is gonna get it looking good for the general consumer. But it's clear you don't like Sony...maybe even MS..hell its clear you don't like HD period so one wouldn't expect you to think anything different.

They should lower the price and give you the same system. In essence they are not lowering the price at all b/c this is not the same system that is at a higher price. They are introducing a new PS3 to the mix.

GFLPraxis

Oct 7, 2007, 03:15 AM

Ah, you mean devices that don't need to be used to play a game?

Try playing Wii Fit without the balance board, or Virtual Console games without the Classic controller (yes, they can technically be played with GameCube but for some games that works HORRIBLY, to the point of being nearly unplayable).

GFLPraxis

Oct 7, 2007, 03:16 AM

WiiFit is a game?

Wii Fit is the game, the Wii Balance Board is the required accessory.

Dagless

Oct 7, 2007, 06:46 AM

thing is, if they DIDN'T lower the price, people (like you Jimmi) would whine even more. They are probably still losing money so cutting a few corners is gonna get it looking good for the general consumer. But it's clear you don't like Sony...maybe even MS..hell its clear you don't like HD period so one wouldn't expect you to think anything different.

This tired argument again :rolleyes:
I like MS, they've done a stellar job. (unlike some) I owe Sony no favours so I'm not going to buy a system that isn't appealing and with a high price it's even less important.

A £300 40gb PS3 with b/c would be perfect at this stage. That's where I stand.

edit: This isn't the e-mpire forums btw :p

2nyRiggz

Oct 7, 2007, 11:30 AM

This tired argument again :rolleyes:
I like MS, they've done a stellar job. (unlike some) I owe Sony no favours so I'm not going to buy a system that isn't appealing and with a high price it's even less important.

It really can't be that tired for you if you insist on throwing your one two punch in every Sony topic....now you owe them no favors but yet you still got a jab or two for em huh...thats the tired thing there(you do make it interesting just to see what you'll say next so rock on)

hell its clear you don't like HD period so one wouldn't expect you to think anything different.

I think this would of been a different story if this was included on another console....:rolleyes::)

Bless

e²Studios

Oct 7, 2007, 12:18 PM

edit: This isn't the e-mpire forums btw :p

And you should feel lucky that it isn't. You would be banned and tossed out by now with all the trolling and flamebaiting you do
(or at least banned from sections of the board). On any real gaming board behavior like yours is never tolerated. However maybe you stay here since you know you can get away with your trolling and flambaiting because of the bias/lack of moderation from the moderators, more power to you i suppose :rolleyes:

It really can't be that tired for you if you insist on throwing your one two punch in every Sony topic....now you owe them no favors but yet you still got a jab or two for em huh...thats the tired thing there(you do make it interesting just to see what you'll say next so rock on)

I think this would of been a different story if this was included on another console....:rolleyes::)

Bless

Some kids will never satisfied 2ny, of course in this kids ways its more a matter of being blind to anything that his opinion doesn't cover. Thing is with kids like him you could literally swap the PS badge for a Nintendo one and i guarantee you that his arguments would immediately change. It's kind of a kin to people that blindly vote down the party line in politics, its blind allegiance and not wanting to see the whole picture.

Really in the end I suppose he does no more than prevent himself from experiencing everything that gaming has to offer. It does however get real old fast :rolleyes::rolleyes:

sikkinixx

Oct 7, 2007, 12:46 PM

This tired argument again :rolleyes:
I like MS, they've done a stellar job. (unlike some) I owe Sony no favours so I'm not going to buy a system that isn't appealing and with a high price it's even less important.

A £300 40gb PS3 with b/c would be perfect at this stage. That's where I stand.

Problem is, it is the reality of things. I think cutting b/c is a bad move but I see WHY the did it. Chances are most people won't know/care about it but people DO CARE about price, as evidenced by the hoardes of people whining about it. Again, they are aiming at the same audience the core 360 is aimed to; ignorant consumers that look only at price, not at features.

And please don't give me the :rolleyes: over this, since you too are among the biggest broken records here on MR.

Dagless

Oct 7, 2007, 01:21 PM

I think this would of been a different story if this was included on another console....:rolleyes:

Forget so soon...

To reitterate, I wouldn't have liked the Wii to have HD because I can't afford £200+ for a games system. Is that so hard to understand? I've never paid more than that for a video games system. I also wouldn't want a system where games cost as much as 360/PS3 games, since I'm used to Gamecube and PC game prices...

snip

No, the e-mpire forums are just funny. "Post why the PS3 rocks so we can convince the internet why it doesn't suck", course all fanboy forums are the same. It's just funny at the moment with Sony boards because they've gone from first to third in a single gen and fans don't like that :D ! As seen here too.

Just to dispell any myths (once aaagain)- I like the whole Half Life series more than anything on a Nintendo machine. The 360 is brilliant, especially now the pro is at £200 (gonna be a good Xmas for them). The PS1 was better than the N64, IMO. Sega and Commodore were my machines of choice as a kid. Nothing can touch a Nintendo handheld. If you frequent the forums then you'd know I have many crits for the Wii, but you must be...
blind

Markleshark

Oct 7, 2007, 02:01 PM

We got details of this PS3 at work today.

Not much of a spy-shot, but here you go. It is going to be Europe only, retailing at £299, and the PS3 is getting another £75 knocked off it, down to £350. This is as of Wednesday.

I can't see the logic behind removing 2 of those expensive USB ports, but there you go...

GFLPraxis

Oct 7, 2007, 02:41 PM

Why would they remove Super Audio CD playback? Not that anyone cares anyway, but isn't that just in software?

e²Studios

Oct 7, 2007, 02:47 PM

Why would they remove Super Audio CD playback? Not that anyone cares anyway, but isn't that just in software?

And no LAN cable!! Thats it, they are teh d00m3d now!! :p

SACD playback is through HDMI only anyhow, since I don't have a receiver that uses HDMI I can't even play SACD's with my current PS3 :)

I think this will be a good deal for Sony, at least make them more competitive in the holiday season. Lack of BC might net them some losses from whiners, but those same whiners were probably whining about the price before this announcement. So chances are Sony really didn't lose their business (the whiners) since they never had it in the first place. I find that most these kids that whine just do it to whine and never intended to buy the system in the first place.

GFLPraxis

Oct 7, 2007, 03:03 PM

And no LAN cable!! Thats it, they are teh d00m3d now!! :p

SACD playback is through HDMI only anyhow, since I don't have a receiver that uses HDMI I can't even play SACD's with my current PS3 :)

I think this will be a good deal for Sony, at least make them more competitive in the holiday season. Lack of BC might net them some losses from whiners, but those same whiners were probably whining about the price before this announcement. So chances are Sony really didn't lose their business (the whiners) since they never had it in the first place. I find that most these kids that whine just do it to whine and never intended to buy the system in the first place.

Yeah, lack of BC is the only complaint I have, but it's not big enough to make this a negative thing. This will help Sony.

No LAN cable or SACD support? Nobody will even notice.

GFLPraxis

Oct 7, 2007, 03:10 PM

USB Hub
Lovely, more things to buy to just play a game.

We're planning on getting a wireless bridge in our house so I'll bookmark this thread.

Bit of a double standard, no? You're willing to buy a wireless bridge for the 360 but not a (cheaper) USB hub for a PS3...
Not to mention that the XBox 360 doesn't have four USB ports either. Nor does the Wii.

MacRumorUser

Oct 8, 2007, 11:17 AM

So those in the USA get the 80gb or 40gb version. Nice

However in Europe Sony plan to only make available the 40gb version :rolleyes: They have decided to phase out the 60gb starter pack version as stock is depleted they will no longer renew that SKU.

They believe one SKU in Europe ? So why does it have to be the semi-butchered bast*rd child ? :rolleyes:

UK, October 8, 2007 - Sony has confirmed reports that, following the announcement of its lower-specced 40GB PS3 on Friday, the older 60GB model will be phased from European retail over the coming months.

Sony's new 40GB PlayStation 3 slashes 126 GBP off the original price of the 60GB console, but sacrifices two USB ports, the multi-memory card slot and backward-compatibility with PSone and PS2 titles in the process.

As announced on Friday, the 60GB model will retail as a 349 GBP Starter Pack, including SIXAXIS controller and two first-party titles. However, Sony UK has told IGN, "Our offering in the UK market place for Christmas are the two SKUs announced on Friday but, as the 60GB stock is depleted, the 299 GBP 40GB SKU will be the only version available going forward".

Commenting on the new downgraded 40GB machine, Sony noted, "[it] represents all the power and potential of PlayStation 3 at a very compelling price. Whilst the feature set of the 40GB is a result of extensive feedback and research, all the 'missing' features, should some consumers require them, are easily upgraded with USB memory card readers, USB hubs, or bigger external USB or internal HDs.

Dagless

Oct 8, 2007, 11:22 AM

So all new PS3s will not be able to play PS2 games in Europe? It's not just an option (unless you get a current model before they're all gone)? WTF.

gkarris

Oct 8, 2007, 11:50 AM

Again, they are aiming at the same audience the core 360 is aimed to; ignorant consumers that look only at price, not at features.

Or maybe long-time videogame collectors like me who will just use the PS2 for PS2 games... (I like to use the original console for the game.)

gkarris

Oct 8, 2007, 11:53 AM

This Engadget article says Best Buy has it in their system for an Oct. 28 release date:

http://gaming.engadget.com/2007/10/02/sonys-399-ps3-confirmed-by-best-buy/

Any truth to this though? $399 for the USA on Oct. 28th with a free Spiderman movie?

Markleshark

Oct 8, 2007, 11:57 AM

So all new PS3s will not be able to play PS2 games in Europe? It's not just an option (unless you get a current model before they're all gone)? WTF.

Seems that way. Wouldn't want to speed ill of their decision though, us Nintendo and M$ fanboys. :rolleyes:

We didn't get any word of them phasing it out [60Gig version], only that it was to get an extra £75 knocked off it (Which, FWIW, I thought was desperation) but it seems as if that is to clear stock. Strange times at Sony.

Coded-Dude

Oct 8, 2007, 12:42 PM

sikkinixx

Oct 8, 2007, 12:51 PM

Or maybe long-time videogame collectors like me who will just use the PS2 for PS2 games... (I like to use the original console for the game.)

true but the upconversion feature in the 80/60GB model's is pretty awesome. It doesn't make them look like a new game or anything but basically makes them look decent on a big tv.

Dagless

Oct 8, 2007, 01:32 PM

Its still B/C with all PS1 games, and as I stated several times once they achieve 100% S/W emulation all those 40GB models will be PS2 B/C via a simple F/W update. So quit your bitching and go find something worth while to complain about. First its too expensive, and now its a good price but you want more features.......ffs people - buy it or don't.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/10/08/scee-no-plans-to-offer-ps2-backwards-compatibility-later-as-dlc/#comments

Sorry.

Basically (for those who don't like clicking links). Sony said they won't be offering updates for the gimped PS3 to play PS2 games.

Coded-Dude

Oct 8, 2007, 01:44 PM

So you only believe Sony when it fits your argument......:rolleyes:

Dagless

Oct 8, 2007, 01:49 PM

So you only believe Sony when it fits your argument......:rolleyes:

And you don't believe it when it fits with yours?

Why would they enable it? It'd mean building a software renderer or licensing out one of the renderers built by emulator devs. They have no reason to. Then they might not have turned people away and looked like a laughing stock again by saying "it won't play PS2 games at all". Which is why I believe them this time.

zero2dash

Oct 8, 2007, 02:33 PM

So what happens with the PS3 Rock Band game with it's proprietary wireless adapters and people who buy the 2 USB port PS3? A bit screwed no?

Lovely, more things to buy to just play a game.

One has nothing to do with the other.
Rock Band will use the built in Bluetooth; USB is not required and nothing extra is necessary to play the game to its full capacity.

your point = moot :p

Dagless

Oct 8, 2007, 02:52 PM

Rock Band will use the built in Bluetooth; USB is not required

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/09/fcc-dongle-rock-490.jpg

Well I suppose technically you could play Rock Band without this if you fancy being an air guitarist?

Come on now :rolleyes:

Still trying to find the pic of a PS3 with 2 of these dongles in the back, unless they've now got all "controllers" working through 1 dongle?

2nyRiggz

Oct 8, 2007, 03:31 PM

^Are you still going ahead with this....give it a rest would ya:rolleyes:
This is real simple...80 for those who care 40 for those who dont....what does it matter to you...you owe them no favors plus you stated thousands of times before that you dont want a PS3...we get it.

MRU that article is kinda messed up....they said they will have the 40 and the 80 but will phase out the 60 just leaving the 40? I'm I missing something?

They said they will phase out the 60 and keep the 40 but made no mention of the 80 availability.

Bless

zero2dash

Oct 8, 2007, 04:03 PM

Since when does built in bluetooth require a USB dongle?
Oh that's right...it doesn't. :rolleyes:

e²Studios

Oct 8, 2007, 04:08 PM

Since when does built in bluetooth require a USB dongle?
Oh that's right...it doesn't. :rolleyes:

That and he will never find a photo with anything sticking out the back or a PS3 since the USB ports are on the front ;)

I doubt he will get over it and will continue to troll in any thread that mentions Sony.

gkarris

Oct 8, 2007, 04:24 PM

Dagless

Oct 8, 2007, 05:09 PM

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/24/rock-band-wireless-ps3-guitar-gets-fccd/

Maybe I'm the only person who reads gaming news or something.

MacRumorUser

Oct 8, 2007, 05:28 PM

They said they will phase out the 60 and keep the 40 but made no mention of the 80 availability.

Bless

But Sony are not releasing an 80gb for Europe/UK unless IGN have updated the earlier article which just checking they havent.

Sony want 1 SKU for Europe, and this will be the 40gb version.

The chances are we will never see an 80gb model, not that it matters to me I still have a 60gb USA PS3 :p

mouchoir

Oct 8, 2007, 05:55 PM

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/24/rock-band-wireless-ps3-guitar-gets-fccd/

Maybe I'm the only person who reads gaming news or something.

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/10/05/guitar-hero-iii-not-so-wireless/

This is the link you were after.

I've stayed out of this so far but people blindly and rather smugly dismissing that without getting their facts straight was just too much too resist!

Looks rather embarrassing eh?!

2nyRiggz

Oct 8, 2007, 06:30 PM

^I'm wondering if this will be needed for all versions.....which will still make his point not sound....he's actually complaining about 2 USBs and having to buy more things to play PS3 games when(if this is the case) looks like all the consoles might share this fate......were all in the same boat.

Like GPL said above....all the consoles have 2 USB ports.

Solution: buy a USB adapter...problem solved...get over it.

Bless

Dagless

Oct 8, 2007, 06:34 PM

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/10/05/guitar-hero-iii-not-so-wireless/

This is the link you were after.

I've stayed out of this so far but people blindly and rather smugly dismissing that without getting their facts straight was just too much too resist!

Looks rather embarrassing eh?!

Thank you very much :)

Calling Ed H for a reply :)

I like the replies here. First it doesn't use dongles, then it does but it's a lie, then a shot with 2 of them is shown :D

sikkinixx

Oct 8, 2007, 07:19 PM

What does Rock Band stuff have to do with a 40GB PS3? Is it the 2 USB ports like every other system out there? Must every thread get totally derailed by trolling? :(

As much as people are screaming about the B/C issue, and as much as Jimmi is pouting about the 2 USB ports, how many people are honestly going to care that much? Sony can piss off a bunch of jaded gamers, like Jimmi, who probably wouldn't have bought a system until it was sub $300 or less but sell it to thousands more who go "hey! $400 PS3? hmm... Metal Gear? Final Fantasy? Gran Turismo? Socom? Coming out in a few months? Nice." Or they can keep the price high and have everyone saying "pfft... $500 my ass.. hmm? $350 X360? sure!"

zero2dash

Oct 8, 2007, 09:21 PM

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/24/rock-band-wireless-ps3-guitar-gets-fccd/

Maybe I'm the only person who reads gaming news or something.

Considering that the game hasn't been released, it's anyone's guess as to whether or not that ends up in the final released version, or if the guitars are self-sufficient with bluetooth and don't need a dongle.

Either way it doesn't matter, you point is moot yet again - thanks for clarifying. I don't see any correlation between having to buy something extra to play Rock Band, considering that the even the crippled Ps3 has USB ports. But do continue with the mud slinging, Jimmi...we all do look forward to it every day. :rolleyes:

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/10/05/guitar-hero-iii-not-so-wireless/

This is the link you were after.

I've stayed out of this so far but people blindly and rather smugly dismissing that without getting their facts straight was just too much too resist!

Looks rather embarrassing eh?!

Yes, especially on your behalf because Jimmi wasn't talking about Guitar Hero and neither was anyone else. :rolleyes:

Thank you very much :)

Calling Ed H for a reply :)

I like the replies here. First it doesn't use dongles, then it does but it's a lie, then a shot with 2 of them is shown :D

Congratulations!
You can play Rock Band and Guitar Hero 3 on the Ps3 without having to buy anything extra.

Again -
Jimmi's point = moot.
Thank you for playing, we have some nice parting gifts for you.
Rod, tell him what he's won! :rolleyes:

zap2

Oct 8, 2007, 10:09 PM

First MS can't get the "right" SKU out, and now Sony...come on!

mouchoir

Oct 9, 2007, 02:35 AM

Yes, especially on your behalf because Jimmi wasn't talking about Guitar Hero and neither was anyone else. :rolleyes:

Aww rats. That'll teach me to post past my bedtime.

I did forget to mention that guitar Heroes only supports two players locally so the two USB ports argument is irrelevant in this case anyway.

gkarris

Oct 9, 2007, 09:21 AM

Let's stick to the topic:

The new 40Gig PS3...

Looks like Japan will be getting it Nov. 11:

http://www.news.com/Sony-to-cut-PS3-price-in-Japan%2C-offer-new-model/2100-1043_3-6212400.html?tag=cd.top

Any definite on the US?

http://www.news.com/

Sony to cut PS3 price in Japan, offer new model

By Reuters
http://www.news.com/Sony-to-cut-PS3-price-in-Japan%2C-offer-new-model/2100-1043_3-6212400.html

Story last modified Tue Oct 09 05:57:40 PDT 2007

Sony plans to cut the price of its PlayStation 3 game console by 10 percent in Japan and launch a new model, in a bid to ignite demand in the run-up to the critical year-end shopping season.

The move follows a similar announcement from Sony on its European game operations last week as the Tokyo-based electronics and entertainment conglomerate plays catch-up with Nintendo's hot-selling Wii.

The PS3 has lagged the Wii in sales since the devices were launched late last year due to the Sony machine's high price and scarcity of strong game titles.

Sony said Tuesday it will lower the price of the PS3 with a 20GB hard drive from about $425 (49,980 yen) to about $385 on October 17.

It will also start selling its 60GB model for about $470. Sony has not so far suggested a price for the 60GB model, but it currently retails for about $510.

Besides the price cuts, Sony, which competes with Microsoft and Nintendo in the game industry, plans to launch a new PS3 with a 40GB hard drive for about $340 in Japan on November 11.

That is still considerable higher than the approximately $210 price tag for the Wii.

Although the price of the 40GB model will undercut the 20GB machine, the new 40GB set lacks some functions that the 20GB model offers, including compatibility with game software designed for the PlayStation 2.

Lowering prices will likely help drive PS3 sales in Japan, but the machine's competitiveness still falls short of that of the Wii, analysts said.

"As underlined by the delay in the Gran Turismo launch, there has been only limited progress in addressing the problem of software shortage," Mizuho Investors Securities analyst Etsuko Tamura said.

Sony last month postponed the launch of Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, the latest installment of Sony's popular in-house racing game, to December 13 from October.

Story Copyright © 2007 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved.

Copyright ©1995-2007 CNET Networks, Inc. All rights reserved.

sikkinixx

Oct 9, 2007, 09:55 AM

Yeah Japan is getting a 20GB, 60GB regular PS3 AND a 40GB WHITE PS3 :( weak sauce.

MacRumorUser

Oct 9, 2007, 11:01 AM

Personally 1 SKU is always best.

However looking at it further objectivly I have to give a thumbs up to Sony thinking about it.

The fact that for £299 / €449 folks will be able to pick a ps3 to play games and have the benefit of wifi built in and blu-ray movie playback.

Ok so it loses the media ports ? whoope doo. To be honest I have NEVER used mine bar the first time I was messing about with the ps3. And so it loses 2 USB ports ? Whoope doo. I have never plugged in more than 1 usb device into it at any given time.

So realistically Sony have done the right thing. They have a machine that has wifi, blu-ray, 40gb HDD priced only €50 more than a 360 premium with only 20gb HDD, DVD, no wifi...

That's a great big step.

So they have taken away BC ? But I'm sure if you have back catalogue of PS3 games, the chances are you have a PS2 - so your just going to have to keep it out if you want to play it. But the chances are most people won't regardless, especailly if shops offer similar Trade your old console + 5/6 games and get a PS3 for €199/249 as they did with the 360, then I can imagine a lot of old ps2's getting traded in for the upgrade.

Sony have obviously looked objectivly at each marketplace and decided whether right or wrong (but at least they decided) on specific SKU's for each territory going on sales and store/retailers feedback.

Yes we would all love a 120gb, 5x blu-ray multichanging, coffee and tea making PS3 with a robotic hoover attachment for those quiet times in a teenagers life ;) for $150 - but it isn't going to happen and those of us still bitching need to take a long walk, find a bridge, and then proceed to get the hell over it. Either that or go to Egypt and enjoy that leisurly swim in De Nile :D

zero2dash

Oct 9, 2007, 12:12 PM

40GB WHITE PS3

I demand one of those in the US, pronto!

It's teh sexay ;)
I'd buy one
white > black
White consoles..."it's the new white!" :D
Show dirt like a mofo but I really dig the way they look...

Antares

Oct 9, 2007, 12:22 PM

I demand one of those in the US, pronto!

It's teh sexay ;)
I'd buy one
white > black
White consoles..."it's the new white!" :D
Show dirt like a mofo but I really dig the way they look...

Cake it. I bet the white PS3 would look mighty fine next to a Wii. I'm sold.

GFLPraxis

Oct 9, 2007, 12:41 PM

So realistically Sony have done the right thing. They have a machine that has wifi, blu-ray, 40gb HDD priced only €50 more than a 360 premium with only 20gb HDD, DVD, no wifi...

Exactly! I find it amazing that people are calling the 40 GB PS3 "gimped" because of less USB ports and no BC; it still has just as many USB ports as Wii and 360, right? and this thing has double the hard drive space, plus WiFi, plus Blu-ray, compared to a 360 Premium.

If the 40 GB PS3 is 'gimped' compared to the 80 GB PS3, then the 360 Premium is 'gimped' because of the Elite. :rolleyes:

The 40 GB PS3 can play all PS3 games with full features. The only system of this generation that is gimped is the 360 Core (can't utilize lots of features XBox Live without a hard drive, can't even play lots of games).

IscariotJ

Oct 9, 2007, 03:23 PM

The fact that for £299 / €449 folks will be able to pick a ps3 to play games and have the benefit of wifi built in and blu-ray movie playback.

The built-in wireless, and blu-ray is a huge bonus for me. Even with the reduced price of the 360 Premium ( currently £249 ), add in the wireless module £54.99 ), and then the hd-dvd drive ( £109.99 ), it comes out more expensive than the 60GB PS3 ( £349.99 ), never mind the 40GB.

The only thing against the 40GB PS3, is the 60GB being only £50 dearer, while stocks last, that is....

gkarris

Oct 18, 2007, 02:33 PM

Here it is:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071018/ap_on_hi_te/sony_playstation

Sony announces new, cheaper PS3 Thu Oct 18, 10:50 AM ET

Sony Corp. on Thursday cut the price of its PlayStation 3 game console in the U.S. and announced an even cheaper model that will arrive before the holiday shopping season.

The top-line PlayStation model, with an 80 gigabyte hard drive, now costs $499, down from $599. That effectively eliminates the lower-end model, which has a 60-gigabyte drive and has sold for $499.

A new low-end model with a 40-gigabyte drive will go on sale Nov. 2 for $399.

Unlike the other PlayStation 3 models, the new one won't be able to play games made for the PlayStation 2. In a statement, Sony said this was due to a more extensive lineup of games of the PlayStation 3.

The U.S. launch of the 40-gigabyte model was widely expected, since Sony has already announced it for Japan and Europe. It narrows the price gap with competing game consoles, but the PlayStation is still the most expensive.

Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360 costs $350 and Nintendo Corp.'s Wii costs $250. The PlayStation 3 has been trailing them both in U.S. sales, and the Wii has been a breakout hit for Nintendo, with more than 9 million units shipped. Sony has sold 5 million PlayStation 3s since they went on sale in November last year.

According to this site, Sony REALLY needs to do this...

http://www.nexgenwars.com/

And you get the 5 free movies (for what it's worth...)

Antares

Nov 2, 2007, 03:40 PM

Yay! I ordered my 40GB PS3 from Sony! I took advantage of the free shipping and will also be getting the $100 credit. So, the PS3 is only costing me $299 plus tax! It comes with Spiderman 3 and I also get the 5 free Blu-ray movies. I bought it from their online store so I don't know if/when it will be available in retail stores.

This is defintely what Sony needs to kick up sales. The price just hit the sweet spot for me. I just wish it was available in the white color that Asia is getting...black is not going to match my Wii and Core Duo iMac.

gkarris

Nov 2, 2007, 03:55 PM

Antares

Nov 2, 2007, 04:22 PM

I ordered during the preorder. I think the free shipping ended on Thursday. But it was supposed to start shipping today.

gkarris

Nov 2, 2007, 04:32 PM

I ordered during the preorder. I think the free shipping ended on Thursday. But it was supposed to start shipping today.

You may want to check with what's going on, with the games Sony plays (yes, pun intended).

You'll get the free shipping since you ordered before the deadline.

I don't know about the $100 credit off. That deal may end, and then they finally ship your PS3 and you won't be eligible anymore for the credit as your card wasn't charged until after the deal expired...